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solafatunase:
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run from this guy

Ogene001:
And they are deceiving themselves with needless flyovers in Kano City? Abia which they mock has the least number of poor people. The so called bad road is being fixed statewide

what's the population of ebonyi state 😂

Almaigaa:
Go talk that thing wey you talk for Warri or other parts of Delta. If you no see yourself for hospital, call me bascard.

ODE, Warri no concern delta Igbo.
Shows that you have poor knowledge of the geographical distribution of the state

Epistasis:
It's tough to be on the losing side... thousands of thread over PEPT.
Oga ooooooo.

ODE, we are all on the losing side. Can't you see the mess?
If Tinubu ends up fixing Nigeria, we all are winners but he can't.
Tinubu is a bad person

The English language is very simple. Only APC members are trying to create confusion

Emekaphilip360:
Tell me more pls

if you can share your whatsapp number, I go pitch it to you.

But footwear making business is very lucrative and can generate a turnover of more than 300% within a shortwhile and can even be a source of income for life.

You can make 1 footwear with as low as 5k and sell for 25k online. And as a footwear store, finding buyers is not difficult.

Emekaphilip360:
Can someone tell me any lucrative business moving right now that I can venture into. Budget is 500k to 700. I don’t need crypto or get bullshit talk. Realistic business only!

footwear making business.
Very lucrative

vdestro:
This is off point. But it does not.

Why do I always forget that you are the dtruthspeaker 😂?

I dey Bleep up

vdestro:
That is very true. It is not dictacting. It is only recommending, ni different from all the advice we see here on nairaland or facebook or on TV.

The recommendations contains many inconsistencies, you people should fix it first.

Oluwaseunomo:
Shebi him no die, cool the message as been passed

what stupid message?

That's the kind of education you see in Nigeria.

vdestro:
Superior argument did not stop a thief from stealing or a murderer from killing. Not even in prisonment and death penalty has stopped people from committing evils.

People do whatever they imagine to do whether justified or not, so you have nothing here.

the bible does not dictate how people live their lives. That only works in Christianity and many people don't give a shit what Christians and the Bible say

Homosexuality has nothing to do with the devil. The fact that you people bring religion into it is why it's hard to even combat it. You do not tell people how to live their lives based on your religious tenets.
To tackle homosexuality, you need to bring superior arguments and not "the bible says".
Homosexuality is a combination of genetics and environmental factors, this has been well documented over the years and we substantially understand this.

Religion is like homosexuality, I do not have problems with it as long as you rub it to my face.

IconicR:
See as all of them Dy say nice things but cleverly dodging faithfulness smh

Nigerian women don't deserve faithful men because they always go for money.
I have money. You can't eat your cake and have it

I have money.
I have money
I have money

Chikeluba25:
ABS junction, AWKA road Onitsha. Beautiful Anambra.

what's beautiful here? Open drainage with dusty roads and traffic?

damkin24:
How did he discovered the existence and numbers of the ghost workers?

its stupid for PDP to say that. No one even takes Abia PDP morons seriously.

How's he suppose to do that?

nairalanda1:
Work within the system..



I dare say that Venezuela (which loses 18 billion dollars through smuggling yearly) and Libya (which is now using airstrikes to attack smugglers) and even Angola (big issues on its borders) would love to agree with you.





Yeah, and when there are opportunites for arbitage...




So remove subsidy, and let it run at a price


Erm, was telling him that they cannot sell crude oil at cheap prices because it would mean they lose money

You sure you understood what was being discussed?



And then the government sustains a large deficit doing so, because crude oil prices rise and rise and rise.

Therein is the problem





This is a nairaland convo. Calm down.



Yes because

Saudi 10million barrels a day of crude, 40 MILLION people

UAE : 2.5-8 million barrels of crude, 14 MILLION people

Nigeria meanwhile...1.5 million barrels of crude, 220 million

We can't afford it.


See the issue.

I have a feeling that you are helinues

nairalanda1:
1.No one is saying that supporting removal of subsidy means you don't want audits to be done.

So why are they not doing it properly? We won't be in this situation if they have been doing that.

2. As Libya, Angola, Venezuela, Iran and Saudi have successfuly tackled smuggling...no wait' they haven't.

there's no single country in the world that doesn't face smuggling but Nigerias borders are bigger than the vagina of a prostitute. Smuggling is almost free for all and customs is corrupt and deliberately won't stop it. The citizens should not be meant to suffer for Thr inefficiencies of customs who are relatively properly funded.

Subsidy is a great lubricator of smuggling.

is that not why we are funding customs. Should we disband them? Why pay them taxpayers money if they cannot do their primary duties?

3.Refineries can work when there is a profit motive, or ability to make profits which can only happen when there is no subsidy

the cost of running a refinery is much lower than the cost of not running it. Do you know that we already run at lost from Importing fuel. Very silly thing we have been doing for years because of the ineptness of government.

4. In other words, you want the folks who drill for crude to supply crude at 'cheap prices' That works till they start losing money, then they stop drilling for crude, then jobs get lost, and wahala starts.

the folks are not drilling oil for cheap price. You don't know how this thing works. Stop talking.
Oil companies drills at normal price for government. Government takes the crude to it refineries and then sells to citizens at a subsidized rate. By doing this, the cost exporting the crude and importing the constituents back into this country will be saved. Government, the people and oil companies are all winners in this because our refineries made the product, our government can dictate price outside of external forces. What external market rate will only affect is the crude which we are selling to other countries.
Think, it's no rocket science.

Money has to be made for a host of things...including paying a decent wage to workers, and buying or leasing drilling equipment.

Dude, you have brains draining. Students who studied petrochemistry in Nigeria don't have jobs. This will create massive employment too. You are not making any sense here

5. In other words, price controls...has been tried elsewhere. It caused more problems. No one is going to sell at a loss.

price control is working in UAE and Saudi very well. It's not causing a y problem. Where did you get your from from?

nairalanda1:
Fight for your subsidy then.

lol

nairalanda1:
So why are you arguing with me.?

You could have saved your electrons and data then!

K.

I'm arguing because you are not getting the Point.

Yoi can even barely understand how Nhis works.

You don't even understand that government does not subsidize health in Nigeria. You think that a caeseram session should cost 15million. That's funny 😂

nairalanda1:
You want subsidy.

Stop pretending. If you didn't, why are you arguing with me then?

Gosh, I don't get some folk

I'm arguing it because government is suppose to take responsibility for the failure and not the citizens taking it.

Subsidy removal is a cure for the symptoms of the actual disease of weak institutions and massive corruption remains in the system. It won't work, if you like remove subsidy and even tax us on fuel, they will mismanage it

nairalanda1:
Then fight for your subsidy

I don't want subsidy?

Did you pass comprehension in school?
Removing subsidy without a removing bad structures is a futile venture, they will still find other ways to steal

nairalanda1:
Lol. I bow out

You want subsidy, get off this site and fight for it.

Is that clear. Ditto Tianmen.

I'm out. Got to make a living to pay for the 630 fuel

I don't want subsidy, I want a responsible government. Whether or not subsidy is removed, things will work.

This subsidy removal is a product of government failure to fight corruption

nairalanda1:
I don't trust them APC, PDP or LP either

But on subsidy, it is between a hard choice and an even harder choice.

I bow out.

It's not a hard choice, it's a force choice as a result of irresponsibility of the Nigerian government over the years.

Nigeria's revenue had it been properly managed can pay subsidy and we will still run this country.

nairalanda1:
Which in government institutions is subsidised already.

Are you telling me you paid 15 million for your wife's caesarean? Which hospital was that? Was it government run?

You don't know how Nhis works. I swear.

You should go and read up about it. Nigerian government does not subsidize Healthcare. Show me where it is in the budgets that they are paying subsidy for health?

NHIS is not subsidy, it's a scheme for those who register for it.

nairalanda1:
Yeah, there is a reason why I don't back any of the parties

It is the government fault. It's part of why subsidy is gone. Mistakes and bad government add up.

Sadly people suffer for it

It's also the reason why I don't trust APC. I don't trust them because they have shown me beyond every reasonable doubt that they are not there to make any change. It's all mirage.

And also they didn't go about removing the subsidy well.

nairalanda1:
And under NHIS ye don't pay full costs.

Plus health is subsidised. That's why you don't pay 15 million for your wife's caesarean section

without subsidy, you won't even pay 15million for it. It seems you are not married yet.

I have a feeling that you don't even know how Nhis works. You need to register for it, government don't pay automatically. Those who don't register pay full cost of any health service.

It's different from subsidy. My younger brother's wife did a cesarean session last week, without heslth insurance, we paid 250k so what are you talking about?

nairalanda1:
Our debt is 49 trillion by the by

whose fault?
Who didn't do subsidy well for the past years? Government

Who can't galvanize tax system? Government

Who is not take responsibility for the failure? Government

Who cannot fight corruption? Government

It doesn't matter, if the system is bad, if you like remove subsidy, it won't work. The problem is not the subsidy, it's the gross inefficiency in the system. It does not matter how you want to structure it, it won't work if your institutions are weak, People in the system will still find ways to steal the funds that are not paid on subsidy and the citizens will keep suffering.

nairalanda1:
Yeah you pay something into it...but in return, you get drugs at a heavily discounted rate.


Which is what happens in government run hospitals, and even for some medications eg malaria drugs.

Simples. I work there after all.



That was partly the case prior to 2016, when Government made NNPC sole importer and paid subsidy costs to them to compensate them for selling fuel at a loss to marketers.

The remaining bit went to transporters. It is why pre subsidy, prices were the same all over the country.





K.

Nhis is health insurance scheme.
Private firms run it. It's a game of robbing Peter to pay Paul. It's not subsidy.

The revenue gotten from those who pay more and didn't get to use it is used to service those who need it while the company makes profit. And the most part where Nigeria government makes payment is for her employers, even my company pay HMO for me, so that's not subsidy.

It's different. Stop talking about NHIS

nairalanda1:
Even if you were producing in country, costs will still go up...because

1.Worlkers have to be paid very well...or they japa abroad (Nigerian oil workers can and do jakpa ). Same goes for NNPCL...which is no longer a government run concern.(PIA ended that).

2.Maintenance and upgrade costs (remember we don't produce most of the stuff needed for a refinery to work well).

3.Taxes. (Ya think Lagos is letting Dangote work for free? Or FG?)




Saudi produces 10 million barrels a day and has 40 million people

UAE produces 2.5-2.8 million barrels of crude a day and has 14 million people

Nigeria produces 1.5 million (it was even under 1 million 3 years ago) barrels a day and has 220 million people.

See why Saudi can afford subsides, and UAE and we can't?

Libya produces 1.9 MILLION barrels of crude a day, and has 8 million people


And see why our government is not working? We need to diversify our economy and raise taxes before we can afford subsides. Harsh , but true.



Angola has less than 40 million and is struggling with subsides, and is broke ass poor. And they get a lot of petrol smugglied out of the country...especially to Namibia

Russia is a DIVERSIFED economy, with constant power supply. Something Nigeria should do, but our government has not done.

How can price go up uncontrollably when you are producing product and you have a the resources to manufacture it in your country? 😂

Nigeria currency revenue stands at more than 22billion, and cost of subsidy is 10billion.
You are bent on protecting governments inability to be responsible. If Nigeria has been doing the right thing with subsidy before now, we will not have a single issues with it.

You need to see that this is not working because government and those working with government irresponsible and government cannot fight the corruption