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KnownUnknown:
What is deism if not theism without the dogma and doctrines of religion. It’s the same old nonsensical claims that can be summarily dismissed.

deism is theism but not religion. Hope you dig that.
All theistic beliefs are not religious in nature.
Religion is an organized sect that performs repetitive rituals to a diety, in deism, no one, necessarily need to worship or revere any deity.

If you say so. Atheists are those who can’t quite dismiss the concept of gods. An atheist usually holds on to the concept of god from whatever tradition he was indoctrinated into.

No, an atheist is someone who doesn't see an evidence for the existence of a god/creator hence he rejects it utterly without even making attempt to find evidence against it to wait for an evidence against it.

An atheist can be likened to someone who says aliens do not exist because there's no evidence that they do. Of course this person is a stupiddd person, he should have just waited for us to explore further, knowing fully well that we do not even understand anything yet.

An atheist is like someone who takes a cup of water from the ocean and then concludes that fishes don't exist. An atheist does not really know how everything started, but he's concluding that nothing started it because we have no evidence for or against yet. It does not make sense.

Atheist are straightforward and flawed thinkers, they cannot recognized the fact that what we don't know is way more than what we currently know. They are close minded already when we can just agree that we don't know, it's why I think it's a silly way of reasoning.

MayntheeMayn:
You are not making sense bro.

I want you to know that the “A lack of evidence is not absesne of evidence” coined by carl sagan doesn’t mean the jargons you are saying.

The actual quote by Carl Sagan appears in his book The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark and is part of a discussion of various logical fallacies (in this case, the “appeal to ignorance” fallacy):

Appeal to ignorance—the claim that whatever has not been proved false must be true, and vice versa (e.g., There is no compelling evidence that UFOs are not visiting the Earth; therefore UFOs exist—and there is intelligent life elsewhere in the Universe. Or: There may be seventy kazillion other worlds, but not one is known to have the moral advancement of the Earth, so we're still central to the Universe.) This impatience with ambiguity can be criticized in the phrase: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Using Sagan’s examples as a guide, the closest statement one could make with regard to the existence of God is that it’s fallacious to claim that a lack of any evidence that God doesn’t exist is evidence that God actually does exist.

okay, I agree with you

MayntheeMayn:
The philosopher and mathematician Betrand Russell waded in on the argument. He used the example of a ‘cosmic teapot’ to illustrate his point. He said that, even though it could not be refuted, no one should believe him if he claimed, without proof, that a tiny teapot was orbiting the sun between Earth and Mars (Boncheck, 2016).

In similar vein, Martin Burton, Director of Cochrane UK, wrote that an invisible unicorn had been grazing in his office and invited readers to prove him wrong

I agree with whatever you say, leave me alone

MayntheeMayn:
Why do you need to believe aliens or warmholes exist?
If you can know something, why believe it?
The people that called it “hypothesis” are not stupid.

I don't want to engage you dude. You like unending and uneducative arguments

KnownUnknown:
I did say a deistic god has to take a human form
I said “ I also know that your deistic god will be defined as some vague superhuman character whose description is totally dependent on your prior religious indoctrination and your vocabulary.”

deism is not a religion. You have to understand deism before you argue against it.

it doesn’t matter whether you call it deistic god or theistic god, it all depends on your imagination.

atheism also is an imagination because it doesn't have evidence either for its claims that a creator cannot exist. It depends on lack of evidence which is a fallacy of appealing to ignorance.

A lack of evidence for something is not absense of evidence, that's why atheism is flawed.
A lack of evidence for a creator is not absence of evidence for it. Just like warmholes and aliens

KnownUnknown:
Yes, I do. It’s the same amount of information that I have that the monster under your bed does not exist.

does this information also apply to aliens and warmholes?

Flathead8:
Respect people's opinion, I'm sure you have opinions too that you want ppl to respect

your opinon is shit and cannot be respected.
Will you respect my opinon if I insist that 1+2 is 5?

BItt:
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dboY1123:
After all my challenges in the past one year, I think I have to relocate and leave my comfort zone.
I can teach and also work in any part of the job provided the work is clean or not fetish.
I am a graduate, I finished last year but I need a job..

My business is not moving like before and I need to support my family. I am not married.
I can commute or relocate depends on the Job and if there is accommodation.
I am religious and hardworking, I also learn very fast so I can fit in easily.

I don't know how to search for jobs, because all the applications I have been submitting online is futile.

Any idea on how I can start job hunting in Lagos, and I would be immensely grateful if you can help me out.

what business are you into?

Nice2023:
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Flathead8:
Because you have made caricature, satire and parody out of your religion, doesn't mean Muslims have to tow the same path!

Southern Christians have constantly made skits mocking and slandering Jesus Christ to show the West that they are woke and exposed, what a blasphemy!

You wish you had the same connection and affection towards God, but your too civilised for that

all Muslims are asking is to respect their religion just like how you will like to be respected

Whadafuk is with religion that Nigerians smoke.
Are you people daft in this country?

KnownUnknown:
I have more than enough information to know that your deistic god is a nonsensical figment of your imagination.

I also know that your deistic god will be defined as some vague superhuman character whose description is totally dependent on your prior religious indoctrination and your vocabulary.

You in particular are still suffering from the notions found in Hebrew mythology and “Nobel lie”.

You see, that's it. How did you know that a deistic god has to take a human form?

How did you arrive at that conclusion?
What information do you have with respect to that?

KnownUnknown:
Theist: believes in a particular nonsense
Atheist: does not believe in a particular nonsense
Agnostic: believes he doesn’t have enough information to believe or not believe in a particular nonsense (they seem to be confused theists who define their nonsense as “unknowable”)

For various reasons, especially indoctrination, all seem incapable of calling nonsense what it is. Nonsense

Do you have enough info to decide that a deistic god does not exist?

IconicR:
What's the difference between an agnostic and an atheist

agnostics don't say God doesn't exist. We just don't know if he exist or not because of lack of sufficient knowledge.
Particularly for me, I know the Christian God is fake, but there is a particular kind of God that I do not have sufficient information to be able to disprove.
I don't do it in secrecy, all my friends and family know this.

In a saner clime, no one gives a fuckkkk about it, only in Africa where most people are demented that religion becomes a problem

IconicR:
I don't take any atheist seriously, anything you do in secrecy is not worth doing. Atheism is mostly an online thing, most of them have a special sit in their respective churches. Even your Nairaland owner is Adeboye pikin. Be deceiving yourselves.

I am agnostic, and I don't do it in secrecy. Most atheist practice atheism in secrecy because Africa is still very backward and fill of religious morons who may even hurt them.

In saner climes with less brainless religious people, atheists are very vocal

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Ogene001:
And they are deceiving themselves with needless flyovers in Kano City? Abia which they mock has the least number of poor people. The so called bad road is being fixed statewide

what's the population of ebonyi state 😂

Almaigaa:
Go talk that thing wey you talk for Warri or other parts of Delta. If you no see yourself for hospital, call me bascard.

ODE, Warri no concern delta Igbo.
Shows that you have poor knowledge of the geographical distribution of the state

Epistasis:
It's tough to be on the losing side... thousands of thread over PEPT.
Oga ooooooo.

ODE, we are all on the losing side. Can't you see the mess?
If Tinubu ends up fixing Nigeria, we all are winners but he can't.
Tinubu is a bad person

The English language is very simple. Only APC members are trying to create confusion

Emekaphilip360:
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Emekaphilip360:
Can someone tell me any lucrative business moving right now that I can venture into. Budget is 500k to 700. I don’t need crypto or get bullshit talk. Realistic business only!

footwear making business.
Very lucrative

vdestro:
This is off point. But it does not.

Why do I always forget that you are the dtruthspeaker 😂?

I dey Bleep up

vdestro:
That is very true. It is not dictacting. It is only recommending, ni different from all the advice we see here on nairaland or facebook or on TV.

The recommendations contains many inconsistencies, you people should fix it first.

Oluwaseunomo:
Shebi him no die, cool the message as been passed

what stupid message?

That's the kind of education you see in Nigeria.

vdestro:
Superior argument did not stop a thief from stealing or a murderer from killing. Not even in prisonment and death penalty has stopped people from committing evils.

People do whatever they imagine to do whether justified or not, so you have nothing here.

the bible does not dictate how people live their lives. That only works in Christianity and many people don't give a shit what Christians and the Bible say

Homosexuality has nothing to do with the devil. The fact that you people bring religion into it is why it's hard to even combat it. You do not tell people how to live their lives based on your religious tenets.
To tackle homosexuality, you need to bring superior arguments and not "the bible says".
Homosexuality is a combination of genetics and environmental factors, this has been well documented over the years and we substantially understand this.

Religion is like homosexuality, I do not have problems with it as long as you rub it to my face.

IconicR:
See as all of them Dy say nice things but cleverly dodging faithfulness smh

Nigerian women don't deserve faithful men because they always go for money.
I have money. You can't eat your cake and have it

I have money.
I have money
I have money

Chikeluba25:
ABS junction, AWKA road Onitsha. Beautiful Anambra.

what's beautiful here? Open drainage with dusty roads and traffic?