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Olu317:
Cool.





Greeting to you ọ́mọ́ ọ́dọ́ ágbá.

Really? Ibos empty states are still owing salaries after welfare benefits they receive from Yoruba's money and then still come to live off of Yorubaland's remaining tiny ration? Well, we'll only have ourselves to blame if we don't rise and blow the lid off this shiitt. Yoruba can't keep taking care of others when the money can be used to take care of our region, just imagine what Yoruba region or country can do with trillions of naira generated in Yorubaland and moved to Abuja annually.

Afamed:
The fact that Abia State teachers are on strike because of many months of unpaid salary should bother you

It's fulaibonization and you should move the motion already if you are not a bastardd.

Every benefit that comes with being slaves.

Bunch of fools don't know the storm that is coming upon them. Fulani is using the radio to get their people ready for what is about to happen, but the iddiots are frothing in the mouths instead of strategizing their own with calls to world powers and organizations to help out to mobilize help Why can't these clowns support the return to regional govt so we won't have to worry about what fulani is doing for their people? Why waste time on the system that has failed, when we can go back to the one that worked? The fulani radio will be used to inform fulani when war starts, where arms will be dropped and where to occupy. Fulani are preparing for tomorrow while the dumb are complaining, just accept that fulani are the smartest people in Nigeria and move on.

I think we are saying the same thing here except that didn't take to any storyline or home video, I'm a real OMO AGBA with the knowledge of how Yoruba communities were organized in ancient times.

Olu317:
Let me posit that your submission on the relationship between Yoruba and Igodomigodo and not Benin was what precisely happened and they took Yoruba's secrecy for granted . Though on the issue of making a foreigner a king in Yoruba land did existed but such weren't strangers from the outward perception as you conveyed your view. So, please don't see from the way Yoruba Homevideos portrays Yoruba tradition on the screen because Yoruba tradition is heavily complex than it is portrayed on the screen. The reason being that the ancient Yoruba within royal and chiefly -noble lineage,priests were the elite in that era , who were heavily knowledgeable in ritual means of appeasing God,and from them kingly lineage do intermarry from.

The stranger that can rule could be ursper or a stranger whose ancestors or descendants can rule must be versed in the indigeneous language, born in that place, must be related to noble lineage either maternally or paternally historically, whose position are grouped under Bàlẹ́ (duke) in Yoruba land . whose crown are different from the royal home of ọ́ọ́ní ìfẹ́ descendants . A careful study of these crowns will make see the truth. Beside, Ifa was the only pathfinder in the ancient time before some of the àawo(seer) begun to manipulate the interpretation for self gain or mischievous interest.



Cheers

Obasanjo is a coward who was shot in the back during the war cos he was running away, something he had in common with his brother that also ran to Ivory coast at the same time.

ablelin:
The arrest pf Obasanjo could only happen in their dreams, well, I don't believe this news. Currently, the man in Nigeria that will arrest Obasanjo must have two hearts. Even if Buhari tried to arrest him, then I know the man was actually sent to break Nigeria into pieces which is good anyway. But the game of the top echelon is out there for all to see, if I say balkal, you say ni, another man say zation, omo na you Sabi.....

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Obasanjo is not an OMOLUABI by any stretch, he's 3x a bastardd, the only man alive who hates his mother so much. So if DSS can get him before Yoruba youths do, that will be the greatest favour this govt can do for the Yoruba nation, people like Obasanjo must be destroyed for Yorubaland to rise. From Awolowo to Abiola to Bola Ige and lately Tinubu, Obasanjo has single-handedly stood against these OJULOWO OMOLUABI and destroyed Yorubaland, Yoruba youths should have killed him longtime ago. I hope the DSS or whatever its called can make itself useful on this one.

And Opc must get its act right and define its purpose, it's supposed to be a group for Yoruba alone and Obasanjo is not Yoruba.

SLAP44:
What the FG doesn't know is that they can't push we omoluabis to the wall!

They have no powers to stop our anger we we get ready for them. They better not touch OBJ or OPC will act.

Not again!

Oduduwa was not and could not have been from Benin, the people from Benin didn't speak Yoruba, Oduduwa was not a foreigner as a Benin person would be, he spoke Yoruba he was part of Yoruba. Yoruba had this tradition of making strangers Obas but strangers like from another town or or even far away but still have to be one of us who speak the same language as us, Benin missing prince couldn't have learnt Yoruba language prior to him leaving Benin since he didn't know where he was going and Yoruba would not crown anyone without basic background information.

Both myth and reality are two sides of the same coin in everything Yoruba, meji-meji la da le aye is rooted in Yoruba history, not a case of one contradicting another. And I don't expect you non Yoruba to understand that, neither can I make you, that's why it is an ethnic issue.

Every ethnic nationality has one myth about creation like Yoruba and it has no Benin in it so I don't know why they keep bringing this nonsense up. I don't care about what Benin say about their own history as long as it does not rub in on Yoruba. One thing both Yoruba and Benin agree on is that Oranmiyan from Ile Ife went to Benin to rule as the first Oba, all other things don't matter because it's one sided and its making Benin side seem desperate to explain why Yoruba became their first Oba. I think there's nothing to be ashamed there at all, Yoruba are bigger better and in all ramification more sophisticated, so Benin could have seen a great civilization such as Yoruba and wanted a piece of the action by requesting for a ruler from Yorubaland, afteall it's the same Yoruba that codify ibo now igbo language.

Let just drop it, Oduduwa is not from Benin, some Benin have Yoruba ancestry through Oramiyan, the larger Benin population have no relationship with Yoruba, and that's about it.

Born2Breed:
IN recent times, issues on Yoruba-Benin historical relationship have been nothing but hot and characteristically, disputatious. Controversy seems to trail every account. But no side of the debate would bulge. Prince Edun Akenzua, one of the sons of the late Oba Akenzua of Benin says the main reason for the mistrust by the two ethnic groups is because the Yoruba and Benin approach history from differing perspectives.

According to Prince Akenzua who spoke in an exclusive interview with the Nigerian Compass, in Benin City, Edo state recently, the misunderstanding is like two people describing one thing they both saw but from different view angles. Akenzua, who is the sixth son of the late Omo n’ Oba n’ Edo Uku Akpolokpolo, Akenzua II of Benin explained that why the difference persists is because one appraises history from the standpoint of mythology while the other take the reality option.

Refering to the issue of key figure, Oduduwa or Ekaladerhan in the history of the two races, the royal prince said: “The Benin people know the history of the Ekaladerhan which the Yoruba people do not know... Suddenly they found somebody in their place. They began to see him as god that descended from the sky. They named Oduduwa. And that was the point they started relating with him. But we in Benin know him more than that. We know about his birth; about when he was to be executed and what happened and about his past, generally. The Yoruba did not know that. So when the Yoruba begins to tell the story of Ekaladerhan or Oduduwa, depending on the one they choose to call him, that is just simply from their point of contact with him. But that is not the truth. “

Citing recent newspaper publications on Yoruba-Benin relationship, the Edo Kingdom prince revealed that he was shocked over the hot comments on History of Benin, a recent publication by his elder brother, the current Oba of Benin. According to him, he will, in due time, comment on what the erudite historian, Prof. Joseph. Ade-Ajayi wrote.

He claimed that among other commentators, Ade-Ajayi in his article criticised the Oba of Benin for not being a trained historian or adopting enough empirical evidences. But noted that Ade-Ajayi “who claims to be a trained historians has always believed in Youba version of creation” that cannot be proved.

He said that the version of the narative which Ade-Ajayi projects stated that Oduduwa came from heaven with 300 deities.
Akenzua’s observation: “First, I thought that this was funny for reading a professional historian like Ade-Ajayi who would accuse the Oba of Benin of making statements without supporting such statements with documents or empirical evidence, and reasoning that he endorses the Yoruba myths of how Oduduwa dropped from heaven with so many gods is curious. Ajayi did not tell us or other Nigerian the documents that Ooni of Ife has provided to support that assertion. So, I thought that was curious for a professor of history.

“But my worry is that Ajayi who is supposed to display that same academic and empirical prowess and all of that, decides to keep quite anytime the Ooni makes such statements. I am surprised that he is accusing one person for failing to produce evidence to prove his case while supporting another person who made the same mistake – perhaps, in even more bizarre manner.

“You see, in this paper, (raises a copy of Vanguard Newspaper with a pull-out publication on Ooni’s 80th birthday), the interview here was conducted with the Ooni and it is elaborate. For me, what he said is quite interesting. One of the things the Ooni said in this interview was that Olodumare, God Almighty created heaven and earth and in doing so appointed Orunmila to continue with the creation.

“According to him, Orunmila was one who liked palm wine. So, he took one cup and became drunk. And because of his drunkenness, he created the imperfect human being. God now got angry and put him aside and appointed Oduduwa to come around and continue the creation. These are the kind of myth that they want people to believe as fact. We want them to understand that this is quite different from what the Benin is saying. What I am saying is that we should not join myth with common historical fact which happened recently. No sensible person will believe such a thing.
“Well it was very interesting reading it. But to me, it is just a part of Yoruba mythology. Every nation has its own mythology. Therefore I ask: So, when it is an issue of Yoruba mythology according to Orunmila and all that, nobody contests anything with them?

“The Benin also have their own mythology. If you go through the Benin mythology, you will discover why the Benis believed that the Oba owns the land up till white people’s land. But what I also found strange in this last interview by the Ooni is that he gave Orunmila and Oduduwa the same assignment of creating the universe. And I think that was ridiculous.

“Take the newspaper and go through it (he throws it), you will find out that it is full of contradiction. Let me tell you a fact. In 1982, when the Oba of Benin paid an official visit to Ife. A speech of welcome presented by Ooni to the Oba was at that time prepared for the Ooni by Prof. (Sabiru) Biobaku, and I think that the man or people who know this are still alive. He was a former Vice-Chancellor of University of Lagos and a professor of History (like Ade-Ajayi). Part of the speech read: “We welcome Your Royal Highness most heartily back to Ile-Ife, the cradle of our common culture, the origin of your dynasty and ours. Today is really a very good day for us in us and its environs because since you left in 891 AD, we have come to know that your dynasty has performed wonderfully well. I hope that they know what that means because Biaboku is not just an ordinary historian but one of the best Yoruba historians. The records are there for any person who cares to go through instead of shouting and calling others names,” he said

Asked if he read Biobaku’s lines to mean an underscoring that Oduduwa was the Benin prince known as Ekaladerhan, Akenzua said yes. He added that there is an affinity between the royal family in Benin and the one in Oyo kingdom. According to him, the affinity is closer in the sense that Oranmiyan who came to Benin, to give birth to Eweka I, was the one who left Benin and returned to Ife. But by the time he got to Ife, his father Oduduwa or Ekaladerhan may have died.

“It is a long story, but we believe that the Alafin (of Oyo) and his people are our brothers from the same Oranmiyan. And it was not a surprise that in history, you can only talk about Benin empire and Oyo empire. There is nothing like Ife empire,” he said.

Throwing more light, Akenzua said: “I also read in that interview by the Ooni that the Oba of Benin used to be buried in Ife. One will ask: Where do they get all that information? I was surprised when I heard that story in Benin here. The truth of it is that if there is anything out of it, it will be in difference to Ife, which was formally known as Uhe, where Ekaladerhan had lived and Ekaladerhan’s son who became the Oba here (Benin). It was only possible that they may like their body being interred in Uhe or Ife or wherever. But if the Ooni of Ife made reference to it, it does not prove anything. To us it does not prove that Benin is Yoruba or that Yoruba is Benin.”

On the story that the Benin people went to Ife to ask for a king, Akenzua asked, “How can a group of people you do not know before just come to you and demand for a king and you will just give your eldest son to them – to go to the land you don’t know to be their king? Simple reasoning will tell you that it is not true. So when they say that Oramiyan’s son was the first Ooni of Ife, I always ask them: Which one of them?”
Akenzua further dismissed the claim that modern Benin is trying to rewrite history. Describing the allegation as funny, he went on to say: “Tell them that they should stop mixing myth with reality. Benin also have their myth of creation. But when we talk about Ekaladerhan, we are not talking myth. We are talking about something that actually happened. As you will see in this book (raises a book entitled, Ekaladerhan), up to today there are stories and songs done in honour of Ekaladerhan here in Benin. There are villages named after him where he was to be killed. That village is still there for people to see.”

Following the reference to his generation of the Benin royal family court seeking to rewrite history, Akenzua, a London-trained linguist, psychologist and journalist, laughed. He alleged that the Ooni of Ife was quoted in an interview as saying that the present Oba of Benin holds an incorrect position in the tale of the Yoruba-Benin history while his predecessor, the late Oba Akenzua II presented a differing, correct account which the current generation is trying to put aside. The prince said that is not true. “For me, since he did not say the version of the account that is correct and the one that is not, we will not be too forward. But one would have expected that in discussing a situation like this, that would have been an appropriate time for him to come out with what he said Oba Akenzua said and the other statements that is not correct so that people can know which one is the truth. But according to this newspaper, Oba Akenzua made that statement when he was going to commission WADECO, a car company probably owned by the Ooni in Ife. My father was very happy that a new company is coming to Benin. It is very unlikely that my father will take that occasion and be talking about history of Yoruba and Benin. I have the privilege of being a private secretary to my father. I am aware that all the speeches he made everywhere, the records are available. So we are waiting. Whenever the Ooni publishes what my father said at a time, we will be able to relate it to what we have here. But until that is done, that statement by the Ooni will be looked into.”

Adding his view, chief priest of Benin kingdom, Chief Nosa Isekhure, said the Benin people are dignified people who will not go on wasting their time on things that will not profit them. He explained that what the Benin believed as to be the truth has been documented by the current Oba in his book. He expressed worry over the scathing comments of some people after the revered Oba released his book. He informed that the Benin people no longer wish to be drawn into the historical origin argument as that offers no profit to anyone. But he advised historians, journalists and researchers to dig into the matter with clear mind and scholarly quest, adding that the truth is there for any person who cares to know.
“We know our history and there is no amount of intimidation that will change that,” Isekhure emphasised.


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These are old phones no one really uses. Huawei is basically iPhone just a different name. China can't keep stealing intellectual property from America and then refuse to balance the trade deficit. Let see how China holds under this war.

They are already turning on each other. Brennan attacking his former friend. Comey and Rosestein are at each other’s throats.

OLAADEGBU:
They must be very afraid now.

The prosecutor Durham has been secretly working for months to keep him safe from being targeted by democrats. Now that the hammer is coming down is the best time to release the information, too late for the demon rats to threaten his children and that he holds dear. The job is already done, can’t wait to see what these people will look like perp walking, the moloch can’t save them now even if they sacrifice half of America.

And your sidekick oduademonest.

See the work devil gave you to do. Eroja were e ti pe.

Both of you with sub 60 IQ know well that you are the ATOUNRINWAS which is worse than slaves.

Oponu dodoyo onikun nimu atole, go and remove the ’Oyo’ in your name if you can.

Oyo is Yoruba and Yoruba is Oyo for ancient wisdom and reason.

Let Alaafin be number 10, that still won’t make Ooni an Oba let alone number 100.

Oyo is the only empire from Yorubaland for a good reason

He’s called Alaafin(palace owner) for a reason

Every Yoruba has ’Oyo’ in his or her name for a reason.

Alaafin is the only Oba who can install Aareonakakanfo, general Iyalode and iyalaje for a reason.

And Alaafin was and still the head of all Oba alade, Ooni doesn’t have a crown, he’s an Abore and only Oba for the Orisa adherents but Alaafin is the Oba of all.

You can cut and paste from Bible to Quora and text from Hindu and bhudha join together you madman, your place at the end of the day is in a mental hospice.

oduademonest:
Wowcatty didrin to n dato

In the hierarchy of things, Alaafin is not even #2, he is #3.


https://aremuforlife./2018/02/18/supremacy-of-the-ooni-of-ife/

For the moment, let me turn over to you, extracts from the Government Gazette of 28 February, 1903, revealed that there was a dispute between the Akarigbo of Sagamu and the Elepe of Epe as to the latter’s right to wear a crown. The then governor, Sir William Macgregor, sent his special hammock to Ooni Olubuse I (father of the present Ooni), to carry him from Ife to Ibadan from where he took a train to Lagos. At the council meeting, Sir Macgregor told the Ooni that “he had received a telegram from the Alake of Abeokuta who requested to be advised of the time the Ooni was leaving Lagos for Ife. The Alake expressed a desire to arrange to meet the Ooni outside the walls of Abeokuta in order to pay him respect.”

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The governor then informed the council of the purpose of the meeting – “the crown case of Elepe of Epe.”

The Gazette continues: “But before introducing this question, His Excellency informed the council that he had heard with great sorrow that the town of Ogbomoso was burnt and that 60 persons, including the Lemomu, perished in the conflagration. The governor had sent to the Baale to express his sorrow and also 100 pounds for distribution among the people in their distress.”

Having heard the main question, the Ooni was reported in the Gazette as saying: “A man should speak only what he knows to be true. Only the Akarigbo and the Awujale have the right to wear crowns; even if the Akarigbo is a chicken, he is the head of his government and is entitled to wear a crown”. But the Akarigbo and the Awujale had their crowns originally from Ife. I had only been a few days as Ooni before the present Akarigbo was installed. To knock out the claim of Elepe, the Ooni went on. Besides Akarigbo and the Awujale, I do not know of the rights of anyone else in Ijebu to wear a crown. No one on the face of the earth has power to give the Elepe of Epe a crown, unless the Ooni of Ife. Even the Alake of Abeokuta has not this power.
“THE ALAKE OF ABEOKUTA AND THE ALAAFIN OF OYO HAD THEIR CROWNS ORIGINALLY FROM THE OONI OF IFE”.

The following are the rulers to whom crowns have been given by the Ooni of Ife:
“The Alake of Abeokuta, the Olowu of Owu (Abeokuta), the Alaafin of Oyo, the Oba Ado, the Osemawe of Ondo, the Awujale of Ode (Ijebu), the Alara of Ara, the Ajero of Ijero, the Orangun of IIa, the Owa of Ilesa, the Alaye of Efon, the Ore of Olure, the Akarigbo of Remo (Ijebu), the Alaketu of Ketu, the Elekole of Ikole, the Olowo of Owo, the Ewi of Ado, the Oloko of Oko (Abeokuta) the Alagura of Agura (Abeokuta)”.


This piece settles a number of issues which the sons of Odu’a must now reconcile in present day events in Odu’a land. Well, the Gazette goes on: “The Ooni further explained that on the occasion of original assignment of a crown, a fee of 50 pounds (then one hundred naira) at least was paid to the Ooni of Ife. This fee was demanded only from the first ruler of the territory for which the crown was assigned. His successors are not again called upon to pay the fee. “But each new ruler on succeeding his father is required to announce his assumption of the crown to Ife, and at the same time to send presents and offerings for an auspicious reign.”

Some great rulers, for example, the Alaafin of Oyo on succeeding to the crown, paid over again and the fee due to the Ooni of Ife. The Ooni also stated that some rulers sent him annual presents, and he showed the council the horse-tailed staff which was sent to him by the Alaafin of Oyo”. The last ruler that paid for his crown to the Ooni of Ife, was the Akarigbo of Sagamu.”

The governor asked the Ooni whether the Elepe could be permitted to wear a crown if he now paid the 50 pounds. The Ooni replied that all crowns are hereditary and that a man could not wear a crown. The power vested in the Ooni of Ife was to confirm the title to the right. All crowns are hereditary. There was in 1931 another dispute, this time it was over the seniority of the Ooni over the other obas and chiefs and there was also the issue of seniority as between the Alaafin (then called the Oloyo) and Oba of Benin (then called Oba Ado). The senior district officer, Captain HLM Butcher, sent minutes to the then commissioner, Western Province, in which he said, among other things:


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“I have discussed this with several chiefs and old men in various places and the evidence seems to me to show clearly that the Ooni of Ife is the leading Yoruba chief.
CAPTAIN BUTCHER ALSO TOLD US: “THE OBA OF BENIN CALLED OBA ADO IS THE SECOND, WITH THE ALAAFIN CALLED OLOYO THE THIRD.”
He added for good measure, there is no definite order of precedence for the other obas… I have never heard that the Oba of Benin recognized the suzerainty of the Alaafin 300 or 400 years ago. I can see no reason why he should, as he was nearly always, be the more powerful of the two.” You can interpret or misinterpret these extracts, but the truth is contained in them.

2. Extracts from Ooni of Ife in Yoruba History by Dele Awoyinfa 1992 (Pages 67-71)
On the 23 February, 1903, the Ooni of Ife travelled to Lagos at the invitation of Governor William Macgregor and was lodged in a mansion at Tinubu Square, Lagos. On the following day, the governor met the Ooni of Ife and informed him that the purpose of the invitation was to have direct evidence from the Ooni of Ife as to who among the Obas of Yorubaland were entitled to wear a crown. The Ooni was scheduled to address the newly constituted Native Council which was divided on the issue as to whether a particular Chief at Ijebu was entitled to wear a crown. The Ooni’s statement of tradition was preceded by the customary greetings which included this passage from the Government Gazette of 28 February 1903.

The Ooni of Ife also said that it was only out of respect for his friend the Governor that he had broken through the tradition of the country and had come all the distance. Kabiyesi, the Ooni added that the other chiefs, when they heard of his departure from Ile-Ife, left their palaces and were living outside the walls and there they would remain until the returned, even the Alaafin of Oyo was now living outside the palace. The above was good example of rigid observation of traditional protocol by the Obas of Yorubaland who regarded themselves as the sons of Oduduwa (the Ooni of Ife). What it amounted to in tradition was the silent message of the governor in Lagos, that none of them would cooperate with him until their father returned safely to Ile-Ife. Living outside the palace, meant that life in the whole community was paralyzed. If an Oba for reason of tradition, had to stay outside his palace, all his chiefs and his Baales in the villages would do the same thing and all the Arabas (Chief Priests) would be busy making sacrifices to the 201 gods of Yoruba tradition. All markets in the towns and villages would cease to function normally.



The return of the Ooni would be greeted by gun salutes and jollification throughout the empire, all markets will resume normal commercial activities and each monarch will travel to Ife to pay homage and act as communication link between the subjects of each Kingdom and the Ooni, as to what transpired in Lagos. Governor Macgregor acceded to the request of the Ooni that no member of the native council could behold him face to face during the meeting and so, it was the voice of the Ooni that the meeting heard, as no inferior monarch or subject could behold the countenance of the Ooni without unpleasant consequences. [/b]After giving the names of those entitled to wear beaded crown, the following testimonies by members of the council were recorded at page 167 of the Government Gazette of 28 February 1903.

[b]1. Kasumu Giwa: Our fathers have told us that the Ooni of Ife has the power to issue crowns to the rulers of Yoruba.
2. Sufianu: If a crown does not come from Ife it is a worthless thing.
3. Sunmonu Bashorun: [b]It is the Ooni who gives crowns to all the rulers.
4. Oshonisi: (Chief native doctor): We cannot go beyond the Ooni’s statement.
5. Bale of Ebute-Metta (Egba): I stand by what the Ooni says.
6. Seidu Olowu: It is a truth widely known in Yoruba that the Ooni gives crowns. I am on the side of Ooni.
7. Ogbogun: It is well known that only the Ooni can issue crowns. Ife is the cradle of our race. All power and authority come from Ife.
8. Brimah Edu: If the Ooni had not come, we would all have talked nonsense.
9. Chief Musa Bababiokun: I agree with the Ooni in all what he said.
10. Chief Ashogbon: I agree with the Ooni.
11. Chief Soenu: All the rulers in Yoruba have their crowns from the Ooni.
12. Chief Ojora: It is a wonderful thing to see the Ooni at Lagos, Ooni is right.
13. Chief Aromire: His Excellency has done a great thing in bringing the Ooni down to Lagos. This is a wonderful thing. We never expected it, the Ooni is our greatest authority on the subject.
14. Chief Obanikoro: The Ooni has told us many important things today, which we never knew before. The Ooni is the only authority on the subject and we abide by his decision.
15. Chief Eletu: We are much thankful to the Governor for inviting the Ooni of Ife to Lagos. [/b]

On 20th July 1903, government minute from Ibadan confirmed that “The power of the Ooni to confer crowns is universal and unique in Yorubaland”. In 1984, the late Akarigbo of Remo, Oba Moses Awolesi Erinwole II, received the present Ooni of Ife, the Arole of Oduduwa, Oba Okunade Sijuwade Olubuse II, in his palace at Sagamu. In his welcome address, the Akarigbo who was over 90 years old at the time, declared that Oba Sijuwade who was considerably younger, was his father. He told his people that his father had arrived “Baba ti de”. In 1932, by a letter dated August 11, the then Awujale of Ijebuland wrote to the Ooni of Ife referring to him as “Dear father” and a most cordial reply of 17 October 1932 from the Ooni referred to the Awujale as “My dear son”.

In 1937, the first conference of all Obas of Yorubaland held at Oyo, The Ooni of Ife presided. In 1938, the second conference was held at Ife, the Ooni of Ife presided. In 1939, the conference was held in Ibadan, the Ooni of Ife presided.
In 1940, the conference of Yoruba Obas was held at Abeokuta, the Ooni of Ife presided. In 1941, the conference was held at Ijebu-Ode the Ooni of Ife presided.


In 1942, the conference was held at Benin City the Ooni of Ife presided. It was the custom at the conference for the Ooni of Ife to sit in the east and the other Obas on his right and left. The governor sat in the west with members of his staff, the governor would depart with his entourage and the Ooni would take control. The Royal dynasty of Yorubaland extends to Benin Republic, Warri and other parts of the world such as the Akoos, of Sierra Leone and the Bahians of Brazil. In the United States of America, a strong “resorgimento” in African culture and tradition has identified itself with Ife.

3. Extracts from “Ooni of Ife Through Time” An Exhibition of Ife King list (A publication of the National Museum Ile-Ife Osun State Nigeria 20th November 2000, Pages 8-9 ORANMIYAN THE 6TH OONI OF IFE

Oranmiyan, the youngest son of Oduduwa was said to have lived between 1200 and 1300 A.D. He was a great warrior and the husband of Moremi, the great heroine of Ife. The present day Benin dynasty was said to have been founded by him when the people of Benin sent to Oduduwa for a king to rule over them. Oranmiyan was sent and when he got to Benin, he organized and established a system of government as obtained in Ife. He married one of their daughters who gave birth to Eweka who became the first Oba of the present day Benin dynasty. Oranmiyan having completed the task left Benin and settled at Oyo where he also left a son, Ajaka on the throne as the Alaafin of Oyo. Thus, Oranmiyan was the only Ooni of Ife who had the honour of crowning two of his sons as the Oba of Benin and the Alaafin of Oyo respectively.


4. Extracts from Guardian Newspaper Friday 30th January 2009 “Politics Page” HOW A NEW YORUBA LEADER WILL EMERGE, BY OBA OKUNADE SIJUWADE
The Ooni spoke extensively on the political history of the Yorubas with particular reference to the raging leadership tussle between some prominent Yoruba Obas, especially in Oyo State where the Alaafin of Oyo, Oba Lamidi Adeyemi, the Olubadan of Ibadan, Oba Samuel Odulana and the Soun of Ogbomosho, Oba Jimoh Oyewumi, Ajagungbade III who have locked horns over some issues of Obaship supremacy.

Recalling the bickering between him and the Alaafin over the headship of the Council of Obas in the old Oyo State, the Ooni said contrary to beliefs in many quarters, the creation of Osun State from old Oyo State by the Babangida military administration in 1991 has nothing to do with Alaafin’s attempt to make the chairmanship seat of the then council of Obas rotational between him and the Alaafin.

Going deeper into the 19th century history of the Yorubas, the Royal father said the Oyo Empire which Alaafin is still hanging on to is no longer in existence because it collapsed and disintegrated in September 1793 under the Alaafin Aole and that the Alaafin also lost his beaded crown with fringe benefits during the episode and the crown was never re-consecrated by Ile-Ife up till today

For Alaafin to be claiming to be number one Oba in Yorubaland is a taboo which his fore bearers never attempted to do because they knew it would be an abomination, he stated. On the current raging crisis that is rocking the Oyo State council of Obas, the Ooni said he had been approached by millions of Yoruba people in Nigeria and abroad on the need to intervene, stressing that his stand at this moment is to make sure that there is peace.



7. THIS IS ILE-IFE BY OMOTOSHO ELUYEMI – A SHORT HISTORY OF ILE-IFE
Ile-Ife, Ooye Lagbo, More mope aye, Ibiti ojumo tii mowa, Oodaiye, Olori aiye gbogbo, Ile owuro.

Translated:
Ile-Ife, the city of the survivors where the dawn of the day was first experienced, Head of the whole universe, the land of the most ancient days.

The history of Ile-Ife is wrapped in a thick fog of myths and mythologies. And the above quotation aptly shows the appellations of the city. To the European foreigners during the early colonial days it was a “holy city”. To the descendents of Yoruba in other parts of the world, Ife was the original home of all things and the peoples.


To the Yoruba in Nigeria it was “the home of divinities and mysterious spirits”. To the Ife people themselves it was “Ilurun” that is, “the gateway to heaven”.
Ile-Ife and the Yoruba Nation:
Ile-Ife was the capital of the Yoruba Kingdom before the emergence of Oyo Empire. After the death of Oduduwa many of his children and grand-children left Ile-Ife to found other Yoruba Kingdoms.
Before the series of wars of the last century in the Yoruba country, Ile-Ife was the capital of an extensive kingdom. To this effect, C.H.H. Moseley, the acting Governor of the colony of Lagos in 1904 confirmed that “the Province of Ife lies adjacent to the colony of Lagos”.

8. ALAROYE – YORUBA MAGAZINE BACK PAGE 25TH NOVEMBER, 2013 – WHERE DID ODUDUWA COME FROM.

A man called the father of historians who lived around 484 to 424 BC (Before Christ) HERODOTUS wrote in one of his books that between 3000 and 1000 years BC (Before Christ) there were five nations in Africa and Ile-Ife was (is) one of them. Also Reverend Johnson said all YORUBA NATIONS throughout the world traced their SOURCE TO ILE-IFE.

The conclusion from this scenario is that ILE-IFE is the only TOWN known to be HOME FOR ALL the YORUBA’S and this is not in dispute whatsoever.

BY PRINCE JOHNSON ADETUNMBI ADEMILUYI (DIPLOMA – YabaTech, FCMA-uk, FCA)

REFERENCES:
1. Extracts from Government Gazette of 28th February 1903 by the Late Governor of Ogun State Chief Victor Olabisi Onabanjo – “Ayekooto” (First published in his life time and post humously published again in Nigerian Tribune of Saturday 25th April 2009).

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oduademonest:
Is that sooo? No wonder Ife folks dont have tribal marks

No wonder Wowcatty is behaving like a slave; Once a slave, always a slave

Dumb flippiruu!

Ile Ife is nothing more than a religious town like Vatican, Makkah or Jerusalem. It has nothing to do with general political structure of Yorubaland, Oyo has that stock, lock and barrel. Nothing will ever change that.

Oduduwa didn't found Ile Ife but organized it to be the Orisa headquarters and holy land, Oduduwa himself was an Abore who met king's in Ife.

Oyo Oba is what 'Yoruba` name came from and not Oduduwa. Yoruba are not descendants of Oduduwa just some Yoruba, and if any Yoruba are slaves then it must be the descendants of Oduduwa because he was the late comer. The Yoruba tribal marks were given to identify their own clans.

At least Alaafin is using traditional materials on his crown not plastic and sequences from barbie doll skirt Ooni has on his head and walking stick. Fake and fraud are Ooni's hallmark, what a joke of Abore.
Alaafin is the head of all oba alade, Ooni doesn't even have a real crown and will never be a real oba, Alaafin is the only one who can crown general Yoruba title like Aareonakakanfo among others, the rest are just playing.

If Yoruba had maintained the original tradition of Alaafin as the head monarch and Ooni as the Abore and not try to upstage Alaafin for Ooni just because they feel Abore is archaic, you won't see Oba Olugbo calling himself the paramount ruler. If it's good for Alaafin, then it must he good for Ooni, even the Aareonakakanfo will soon be oba.

The current Alaafin is old and quiet but a new Alaafin won't allow any of these, same reason the former Ooni didn't get along with Alaafin because he knew any Ooni that converted a shrine to a palace is a fraud, and this is the problem Yoruba are going to deal with and understand that, it's never going to pan out well with the idea of gbi gbe omo oba f'osun.

OgboAto:
'Ignant' much like your Alaafin/Oyo peoples?

Mention just 1 Orisa that Ooni is in charge of, just one or better still, mention one Orisa & I'll tell you the clan of that Orisa as well as the facebook page of the head or a son of that clan for verification. Heck, you could even come to Ife to verify.

You & your ilks have bandied this nonsensical story for years without recourse to how Ife is structured.

If anyone is a slave then it should be Alaafin. Eru, slave, lon ko ila. In Yorubaland, slaves are the ones with the type of marks found in the Alaafin family. Read C.O Adepegba's work. Also, if any King should be regarded as inferior in the entire Yorubaland then it is the Alaafin's throne: 1. The empire it controlled crumbled & was chased like a bitch to his friend's town which he usurped & sidelined his friend's family. It is like saying the Queen of Britain is superior to Arab Kings because Britain once ran the whole world or say the Roman King is superior to British Queen because Roman was colonized Britain. 2. Alaafin has no fecking crown! There are 16/32 Kings with original crown, Alaafin has 'zero' crown. In fact, the throne has a 'crown' made of sese efun [white beads] which is sacred to Obatala; who knows if Alaafin was the son of the slave woman who became a votive of Obatala?

Feck outta here. Ife is still the head of all Yoruba towns & the Ooni is still the head of all Oba Alade in Yorubaland in Nigeria & in the diaspora.

You are welcome.

Am I mincing words?

Nonsense!

What has any of these got to do with Ooni is Abore? Why are their names not as famous as the Oyomesi and the rest who had total control of Yoruba political structure? It's because Yoruba had monarch before the arrival of Oduduwa. So it doesn't matter how many times you try to twist it, he's still an Abore.

Truth changes not!

Oduduwa didn't found Ile Ife but organized it to be the holy land, Oduduwa
Alaafin is the head of all oba alade, Ooni doesn't even have a real crown and will never be a real oba, Alaafin is the only one who can crown general Yoruba title like Aareonakakanfo among others, the rest are just playing.

If Yoruba had maintained the original tradition of Alaafin as the head monarch and Ooni as the Abore and not try to upstage Alaafin for Ooni just because they feel Abore is archaic, you won't see Oba Olugbo calling himself the paramount ruler. If it's good for Alaafin, then it must he good for Ooni, even the Aareonakakanfo will soon be oba.

The current Alaafin is old and quiet but a new Alaafin won't allow any of this, same reason the former Ooni didn't get along with Alaafin because he knew any Ooni that converted a shrine to a palace is a fraud, and this is the problem Yoruba are going to deal with and understand that, it's never going to pan out well with the idea of gbi gbe omo oba f'osun.

OgboAto:

You are so fixated on this Abore nonsense that you do not see how badly you are embarrassing yourself.

Ife is structured in a pyramid way, make I show you:

Ooni
Isoro Agba Ife

The Isooro were the Kings of each autonomous communities that preceded Ife. The Kings of these autonomous towns are the deified Orisa we have today. The Isoro are 201 in number but 16 of them are the foremost. Their obligations are to head their autonomous towns & head the festival, initiation, procession & whatever has to do with the deity that started their clan.

Agba Ife are also autochthonous people who supported the creation & developed the administration of Ife. Each of them is tied to an Orisa.

The Ooni [& the four ruling houses] is the only clan that is not derived from any Orisa & is not tied to any Orisa. Instead, the Ooni has an 'Abore' in the person of Obadio who is the Chief priest of Oduduwa & the head of Oduduwa's section of Ife called Idio.

P.S: I didn't mention the Modewa because they are of servant progeny who serve in the palace but are tied to provifing services to Oduduwa/Oranfe & Obatala/Ifa.

Asinwin, se o o mo pe iya e gbodo sa laro nigba to ti di abugije? Aro ni iwo gan ma gbehin si.

I've had the best of laids and now have a dedicated one, so you are probably talking about yourself.

oduademonest:
Baba n la sa laro ni were yi sha

It seems like you enjoy trolling . . . I hope you find what you are looking for.

I hope you get laid before it is too late. . . It will do you a world of good.

When did America move to Mars where people from the third world can't go to?
What you need is a shrink, not this nonsense, arguing your head off

Abbeybailey:
Third world loudmouth. With all the mess and woes you face in your land, America is your obsession. Holla at me when you get that visa and i am damn sure that will continue to be an illusion to you. How come 99% of you Orange pig a#s lickers here have no problem with the worthless and inept Thieflicians that have degraded your lifestyle while mortgaging your future. That should be your Numero Uno concern not a country you have no stake in. That's difference between success and failure.

A must watch



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDfIEGPMbcw

Asinwin, I think what you have is a mental problem. And you won't come out of it.

TAO11:
Depression indeed is real!

You shall overcome!

Asinwin, I think what you have is a serious mental problem. And you won't come out of it.

TAO11:
Depression indeed is real!

You shall overcome!

Ofcourse if this is Katsumoto, he should be typing from a nursing home or on his way there simply trying to play catch-up with the youths after wasting his life. He has failed in life and love and probably with no children since his type are too selfish to take care of any child. Nairaland has always been the refuge for you transgender whcres and where you feel you can escape your useless lives and as a hopeless cab driver somewhere abroad if he hasn't been deported and made to face his early years lack of planning for the raining days. What a useless man! He avoided me in my teenage years and has no choice now that to face me in his old age. I remember when I joined nairaland, I was a 19 year old damsel while he was already a fully grown man. You two are just a bunch of frustrated useless men who have nothing going for you except nairaland. Awon oloshi eyan who should be tied down in an abattoir to make food for pigs.

oduademonest:
So this is Katsumoto?

Thanks for not ignoring him. Sometimes when you ignore them, they begin to believe their poorly constructed tales of the fantastic and
phantasmagoric.

On a lighter note . . . Hmm, just the way we defeated their forefathers, we have beaten him senseless, our children will one day defeat future Edo children, and , I am sure, our grand children will do the same to future Edo grand children.

Shut it already! You are triple obnoxious and disgusting. Whatever feeling you have should naturally rot in your gut. Ko ni da fun iyalaya e if you don't block me. Who cares what you think, your fantasy can only be lived out anonymously on faceless forum,. You will still go back to be the real failure you are, and an attention seeking whcre who 'd rather be someone else instead of your hopeless self.

oduademonest:
You are very annoying and puerile. Very incoherent as well. You are either immature or underdeveloped. Either way, you need to start acting more mature or I will block you from ever being able to post on this board.

Iddiot, Oranmiyani couldn't have been the founder of Oyo just as Oduduwa is not the founder of Ile Ife as it has been alleged by you lowllifes. Oranmiyan didn't get to Oyo until he left Bin and he got to Oyo in 13th century way later than when Oyo has been in existence i. I knew you will get there and I laid out the net waiting for you.

I'd tou think you are entertaining anyone, no you are exposing your idiocy, period. You can't fake wisdom, and you are as dumb as rock.

Shame on you this lame rat. OMO AT'OKO WA BA LE JE, for twisting Yoruba history to favour an Abore, the same act that has turned Yoruba to slaves in their own land. You are probably one of the lab work experiments whose father is either ibo or fulani, iwo omo k'omo, omo atiro, akuku ibi sanse radarada.

You Omo Ale can't rewrite Yoruba history, there's a reason Ijebus look to Oyo rather than Ile Ife, y'all full of shitt.

TAO11:
Hahaha, you coward!

I obviously know the answers to the simple questions and you also know the answers.

But you're dead-scared to say the answers (hence your avoiding the question) because you know the consequences of the answers on your dumb and imaginative 'Abore' claim which you couldn't provide evidence for.

For the sake of exposing your folly to everyone else who have been following this:

*Oranmiyan was the founder of Oyo kingdom.

(Provide me the name of the founder if you really think it's someone else).

*Oranmiyan hails from Ife where he was a Prince


**Additional Note:

*He left Ife as a Prince to establish an Oba dynasty in Igodomigodo land which he later called Ubinu land.

*This was at a time when Oyo kingdom was not even founded by him yet.

*How then, in your inferior and clogged mind, could the throne at Oyo (which he later founded) be superior to the throne at Ife which predated Oyo, and from where he hailed as just a prince?

Use your upper!

You just gave yourself out as a complete ddiott. Have you seen an African immigrant who came to America, nvaded taxes and then went to becomea a US citizen? This shows you know nothing about taxes in America and you are a phony. You are so dumb, you need a certificate to carry around for your dumbness.

Abbeybailey:
When You tell me if you have ever paid a dime in your life to IRS except the visa fees that you were scammed off. I pay enough in taxes in one year to feed you and your clan in your erosion Laden village. Typical loud mouth with no where good going in life.

Haha! Broke ass niggur feeling human on social media. You are insulting third world countries because you are not any better and know you won't be pulling to the top anytime soon.

So you want to show your passport and where you recently vacationed? You sound homeless bro!

Who are you fooling, you basement-dwelling trash can-ravaging sewer rat, get back in your hole

Kophschmerzen:
Hey you little piece of unflushable turd, stay thugging in your third world shit-hole. No one in your entire family tree dead, living or unborn can ever measure up to my shoelace.

Now run along you thin-skinned gibberish-secreting low-wattage fusspot crybaby. This dumb nitwit is so poor, he can't even bail his way out of a wet paper bag.

You this Iddiott, answer your own question of you know it. Have you found answer to your own question yet? Keep trying, you just might find a way out of your misery. You are a damn bittchh and will soon get what is coming to you.

You bastards have a way of showing yourselves. Why do you ask questions you don't know answers to? Is it because you are jobless and just have to latch on to something? Omo Ale jatijati, you have no idea what you are talking about, just opening mouth or raising fingers for the sake of it.

Were afofungbemu, get your head checked, you sound insane and desperate to make a roach a horse, get help you this dumb bittch.

TAO11:
Again, all you did was just simply make long bogus claims.

You did not substantiate your claim (that Ooni was not a king) with ANY evidence, reference material, proof, or reason, let alone an authoritative and academic one.

Boy, you need to be aware that to make a claim is one thing, while to substantiate the claim is another separate thing. Stop getting these two separate things mixed up. Anyone can make any wild and comedic claim.

I can, for example, make a long wringle claim to the effect that wowcatty is a b@stard. Will you then agree that my claim is true just simply because I made the claim (i.e. without any substantiation)?

Simply making a claim doesn't automatically make it a true claim. Provide your authoritative historical reference.

Also, you asked whether my answer to my own question is different from yours.

In respect of your failed attempt to be cunning, you should be reminded that you've unfortunately ran out of luck because of the person you're dealing with at the moment. Lol!

Your answers were to questions I never asked you, so how then does the issue of comparing our answers even come up?

I had asked you the simple straight forward question:

Who was the founder of Oyo kingdom?

And the unrelated answer you returned with was that:

Oranmiyan was not the founder of Oyo kingdom

How in your clogged mind is that supoosed to be even remotely connected to the question I asked you, let alone comparing it with my answer? Lol!

My question remains that:

Whoever the founder of Oyo kingdom is, who is that person -- what is his name?

Does this straightforward question appear to you to be some incomprehensible rocket science?

It is understandable if you do not posses enough knowledge of history to be able to answer the question.

Make your confession if that is your case (it's nothing to be ashamed about), and I will provide the answer, and then we may continue the discussion from there by examining the consequences of the answer.

Peace

Haha! Love the t-shirt, must get one or those. Got a Q shirt and yellow vest already.

Are you following any of these guys?

Think potus is 17, JFK jr is Q, Gen. Flynn is an Anon and Q+ is the same as 17 which is still maestro? Their tweets always come within 10 seconds apart.

I know the entire 8th and 1st marine barracks can't be Anons, they said only 10 people know who they are and only 3 of them are non- military.

WWG1WGA

Temple1288:
New York? That place doesnt smell like Africa. At least Casablanca smells better. That place smells like Kolkata in India.... As for Chicago, try walking thru West Englewood or any of those fuçking neighborhood in and around South side with your wallet by 10 @night--- both your body and the wallet will never remain the same..



FINALLY!

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Just wheni thoughtive heardit all! Which hole did you crawl out from ror goodnessake!

First of all must of you dems are welfare bumpkins and too stupid to get a job or can't you see how y'all always looking for free things? The immigrants have Republicans to thank for making America prosperous, you would have turned the country to what Democrats controlled states now look like. Michigan is a lawless state, California now has more people moving out. New York smells like Africa and then the corruption capital of the world which is Chicago. The common the denominator is the Democrats leadership.

Only 3 kinds of Democrats

1. The satanists at the top
2. The ignorant zombies at the bottom
3. The ones who love everything evil.

Something tells me, you are a cross between 2 & 3.

I'm sure you have no American passport cos you would have spent more time in jail than outside or you are simply an illegal. No upright America citizen or lawful permanent resident would argue for Democrats with all we're hearing and seeing.

Lastly, anyone can be in America, no big deal, some parts are like Africa now thanks to Democrats.

Abbeybailey:
Typical garbage from a bonafide member of the N30.000 club. Tell me if you have ever spend a minute of your life in the US to make you an expert. We are talking about a country i have sweat and labor and pay what will be a fortune to and your ilks who couldn't even get a visa on your best day. I pay in taxes every year what you will not earn in 5 years of your Basura life. There's a reason that we have elections every four years and the aberration and abomination will be corrected. Meanwhile, enjoy the hunger that your worthless leaders has bestowed on you as a legacy. All the years you and your ilks has been foaming in the mouth about America, not single one of you has gotten the visa.

And the yadayada litany continues.Why not answer your own question if you know it and if they are different from mine? Asking questions you yourself don't know the answer to shows you are a hypocrite. You are still saying the same thing and will keep getting the same response.

Before you claim knowledge highground, you need to be on it first, you have no idea what you are talking about, just trashy sound bite-filled nonsense.

Yoruba ancient communities have always have Obas and then Abores, and you can't because of modern day shame of being looked down by different religions now bolt away from traditions of Ooni being a priest, usurping Alaafin, it will never work. You will just continue to divide Yoruba because some people can't sit by and watch such injustice take footholds. My great grandmother time knew Alaafin to be Oba and Ooni to be Abore, and no modern day phenomenon will change the fact that Awolowo just did his friend and fellow Orisa adherent Ooni Aderemi, a favor by passing over Alaafin to make him the governor general. That was just a bump in the road, not here to stay, the old Alaafin may be quite but a young one won't and that's when you will know that swapping positions is dangerous.

If Abore tradition is no longer needed, then scrap it, we already have emperical paramount Oba, alase ekeji Orisa Alaafin, not propaganda bootleg oba who has turned his shrine office to a palace just cos of envy of Alaafin.

Get your head out or your ass, your dumb propaganda will only work on those who don't know their history and willing to learn. Ww will never see Ooni as Oba let alone a senior Oba, he's Ooni, an Abore. Propaganda se ti.

TAO11:
An easy way to prove your point is to simply answer the questions I asked you, the prime of which was:

Who was the founder of Oyo kingdom?

Answering the question would have saved you the unneccessary stress of beating about the bush -- My qestion to you was a blank check.

I never asked you whether or not Oranmiyan was a king at Oyo and Bini. I never asked you whether or not Oranmiyan was the founder of Oyo. Also, I never asked you whether or not Oduduwa was the founder of Ife.

In fact, I never even mentioned any name such as Oduduwa, Oranmiyan, Bini, or Ife in any of my questions to you.

My prime qestion to you is simply that: Whosoever you think the founder of Oyo kingdom is, mention the name of that person and back it up with authoritative historical sources, I will then take it up with you from there.

So, contrary to your allegation, I wasn't asking you to provide your answer in my own way, I was simply asking you to answer the question I asked you and not some disconnected questions which I never asked you in the first place.

In other words, stop pretending to be a dummy.

And if your knowledge of history is so deficient that you have no answer to my question, then be man enough to confess it and I will help you with the answer (with evidence) while exploring the consequences of the answer.

Regarding the picture showing the Alaafin bowing to the Ooni, I am more obliged to trust the words of a media team which was present live at the event, which witnessed the context, which took the picture, and which reported (in words) exactly what the picture says; rather than trust the wishful thinking of a so-called wowcatty who all he does is simply sit his lazy ass in a corner of the creepy dark hole he lives in, from where he logs in to nairaland to spew contradictory garbage.

I wonder why you contradicted yourself back and forth regarding what the picture says if you really were so sure (from your remote creepy dark hole) about what went down at the event.

And lastly, your assumptive claim that the Ooni is not a king is simply no more that a figment of your wild and laughable imagination as long as you've consistently been UNABLE to substantiate the comedic claim with ANY evidence, proof, and reason let alone an authoritative academic one.

Regarding the YouTube link you just posted, firstly I see two people bowing to each other, with the former Executive Governor of Ogun Sate, Oba, Emperor Senator Ibikunle Amosun bowing even more.

Secondly, just like you had noted earier that the Alaafin once bowed before President Buhari (without you having to refer to President Buhari as Oba or Emperor, smiles!); ----- and in relation to which I wondered if you are so slow, while I spoon fed you that the Alaafin bowed because he acknowledged the superiority of the President's authority and influence ----- the Ooni, likewise, bowed before Senator Amosun because the Governor commands more authority and influence than him in our modern western democratic setting.

Again, are you so slow that you really could not have been able to figure that out by yourself?

In sum, my questions to you which you've failed to answer for the umpteenth time remains:

1.) Who is the founder of Oyo kingdom according to whatever version of history you read?

2.) Where did this founder of Oyo kingdom hail from?

3.) And who is his father?

You probably understand the consequences and impact of the actual answers to these questions on your unsubstantiated blind argument, hence your consistent dancing around the question, as well as your persistent refusal to answer the question.