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macof:
and you Google searched

I only did what was asked.

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So, this rule wasn't in place when the son of a Portuguese woman became Olu?

Rotimi47:
Yoruba is spoken in more African countries than Fulani. Google search.

Yoruba language : Togo, Benin Republic, Nigeria

Fulfude (Fulani language) : Senegal, Gambia, Mauritania, Guinea, Sierra Leone, Mali, Benin Republic, Togo, Burkina Faso, Niger, Nigeria, Cameroon, Chad, Sudan, Central African Republic.

Ymodulus:
Some months ago i wrote an article on why the Deltans are not igbos and should be left out of the Biafram struggle.

Today while watching a Nigerian Movie title " The Meeting Silverbird Cinema "

I watched this, and I noticed the igbo lady trying so hard to make sure that Rita Dominic a Delta woman accept that she is Igbo and not Delta.

Why are igbos this forceful. Deltans say leave them alone and you are still trying to force yourselves.

Guy, you COMPLETELY misunderstood that scene. The lady who said, 'Ibo nine bu ofu (all Ibo are the same) was actually the one playing the role of a Delta woman.'

It has been explained on this forum time and time again that not all Fulani have the stereotyped narrow features and light skin.

macof:
I know there's such a people as Shuwa Arabs but I never imagined they were fully settled in nigeria.

Oh yes, they are. In the northeastern corner of Nigeria. They are also found in Chad and a few other countries. Like the traditional Fulani groups, they are a pastoral people. I think their better-known name is Baggara.

macof:
I once met this girl, very dark skinned with one pin on the nose
She said she was Arab and I was like: come again

Fulaman198 where are these people found in nigeria?

LOL. There are actually lots of them. Especially in Sudan and even in S. Arabia. The Shuwa that I've seen their pictures however all looked very light-skinned...which is why Fulaman198's revelation surprised me a little.

In any case, Arab identity has become largely an issue of language and culture, and not really about race.

Oh, I just saw what you wrote about titles sometimes getting changed when they get on frontpage. *shrugs*

Isn't "Ghanaian-Yoruba-Igbo" clumsy and superfluous and crowded? "Nigerian-Ghanaian" would have been a lot neater.

macof:
Ok am not interested in ur silly arguments... I skipped most of them
Bigotry is bad for my system


@Wulfruna
Did her mother's mother marry Nnamdi Azikiwe's son?

Oh no. Nnamdi Azikiwe's aunt (that is, Zik's father's sister) was Dr Ameyo's great grandmother maternally.

@ Bigfrancis, changing the thread's title - in my own opinion - isn't necessary at all. It made it look like this whole thing is a big deal and it's not.

And left to me, all those posts where she was yelling ashewo at me would be unhidden. Especially the one where I was raped by four (or is it five?) German shepherds. I like to see people embarras themselves with such childishness.

9jacrip:
Lol.

Much respect, Mami *prostrates*

I see things have gone from 0 to 100 for him real quick put please be easy.

LOL. Well, no worries. I think he has decided to chill; or the mods got him - not sure which of the two scenarios. In any case, this isn't serious, and I've been really easy. All this na just for sh!ts and giggles - though he seemed to have tried a little to hard to land decent punches.



PS: I hope you didn't feel I was slighting your people. This was just between me and one loser.

*double post*

Emilokoiyawon:
ashewo don't come here and front - no fronting. Reject ke? Which ashewo dey reject cash? Even oyinbo dey give u 2 dollars for dog to knack.We know your runs in the UK. Ashewo see below:

I'll be damned! Little boy is a stalker - how else would he know I live in the UK.

Okay, lemme give it to you little creep straight now and save you from a future heartbreak: I don't mess with boys too immature to wipe their bums.

But you're welcome to stalk. My, I'm even slightly flattered.

9jacrip:


Aunty mi, small small o.

Ah, my Ile-Ife brother. Greetings. *goes down on knees*

I'm only having fun with the kid comic-wannabe. Nothing serious.

He has a semi-promising future as a small-time stand-up, won't you agree?

Emilokoiyawon:
ashewo how market? Ashewo look below:

*blows raspberry* Your first rant was way better, kid.

What's happening? Not losing your steam, I hope. Cause I believe you have it in you to be a third-rate comic someday...when you are much older, like 16.

You also sound sexually frustrated each time you use the old 'ashewo' line that lame-ass loser-boys use every time a girl rejects them. Not having much luck with the ladies, eh?

bigfrancis21:
@bold...that is unnecessary. Keep your points objective and vain-free.

Oh, no no. Leave the kid. I'm entertained - aren't you?

Nothing pleases me like when dummies run out of smart things to say and then go full ret.ard and begin to spurt donkey poo, helplessly. Leave him, biko!

Emilokoiyawon:
See this ashewo with no self esteem. Her sense of self is so wack that her profile pic is the image of a dead white celebrity. I guess this one has been brainwashed by the colonial masters. Ashewo WHITE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE PARAGON OF BEAUTY - stop embarrassing your family. She is probably one of those mofos who bleach their skin to look white - what an animal

YORUBA-GHANAIAN If it pains you die already.

This rant amused me very much. Please, come back with more. I can do with some entertainment.

How old are you anyway - nine?

Fulaman198:
Can't believe I missed this before....

Are you sure you are Nigerian?

In Nigeria we have indigenous Arabs known referred to as Shu'a or Shuwa in Hausa, but they are really known as Baggara:

Do these ladies and gents look white to you?

https://www.google.com/search?q=Baggara+Arabs&rlz=1C1CHYZ_en-GBUS631US631&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMI-sHh-OzoxwIVAaWICh3FMgBR&biw=1440&bih=684

This is interesting. I didn't know Shuwa Arabs were this dark-skinned. I've seen some pictures in the past of whole families from Borno who were light-skinned, with all the features Nigerians like to associate with being mixed race. I thought those families were Shuwa.

bigfrancis21:
Very smart answer. Youu hit the nail on the head. Late Dr. Ameyo is more Igbo than she is Yoruba given her just direct Igbo ancestry which is recent compared to some distant Yoruba ancestry over 100 years ago. Frankly speaking, she is Half-ghanaian Half-Igbo, with her distant Yoruba ancestry coming from her paternal grandmother.

I studied genetics in the university and all children inherit the Mitochondrial DNA from their mothers and females inherit an X chromosome directly from their mothers. Thus, Stella is approximately half-Igbo by blood, coming directly from her mother. Maternal ancestry is determined solely by one's mother, back to her grandmother, to the great-grandmother down to the very first female ancestor on that line using the very same Mt DNA. That is, had she been alive to go for a maternal ancestry test or any of her sisters takes the test, their maternal ancestry would turn out Igbo. A DNA breakdown in percentages will show her to be 50% Igbo, and the remaining 50% shared between her Ghanaian and Yoruba ancestries, say 35:15 respectively. The lady is more Igbo by blood than she is Yoruba.

This reminds me of a so-called 'Yoruba' lady on this forum (minifonwon) with father from Ijebu-Igbo and mother from Umuahia who did her DNA testing and the result turned out to be 65% Igbo, 25% Yoruba and 10% Fulani or Hausa.

I mean, who determines one's ancestry by one's paternal grandmother while sidelining one's direct ancestry from their mother's side?

The proper title of the thread should be Half-Nigerian, Half-Ghanaian or more specifically, 'Half-Akan, Half-Igbo doctor'.

Haba, bros.

Her Yoruba and Igbo descents are of equal distance na.

Great-grandfather = Herbert Macaulay (late 19th century to mid 20th century)
Great-grandmother = Okwuegbunam neé Azikiwe (lived about the same time as Herbert Macaulay)

How come then she is more Igbo? You and the guy I've been attacking na just the same kind of person - just on different sides.

Let's call the blessed woman Ghanaian or Nigerian-Ghanaian, if we must, and be done with it abeg.

Emilokoiyawon:
Shut your dirty mouth there - I have exposed your lies and intentions. If you don't like my title why don't you create your own topic. Abi na by force to comment? Okay, go and hug transformer. As far as I am concerned she is a YORUBA-GHANAIAN - if it bothers you eat a schlong biko.

Hahahahaha! Which lies and intentions did you expose? Does it pain you that you have to share this one with your enemies across the Niger?

As far as I'm concerned she's NIGERIAN-GHANAiAN. In fact, no - she's Yoruba-Igbo-Ghanaian (because I know that one go pain you) - if it bothers you eat corrugated iron sheet, biko.

Emilokoiyawon:
Please land grabber, this is not one of those threads for your nonsense. Move along, nwanyia, biko for your own good.

Bwahahaha! I was even kidding around, like I sometimes do - just having fun.

But I was sure I would get at least one person riled up. And it worked on you.

By the way, I'm not Igbo if that's what 'land-grabber' means. Mind ya self there. *angry face*

If anybody is doing any 'grabbing' here it is you - calling a Ghanaian woman 'Yoruba' based on some distant connection to a Yoruba Lagosian, a connection that is as distant as her connection to the Igbos of Onitsha.

You doubt her Igbo connections? Read her Igbo relation Chief Chukwuma Azikiwe's words on this link:

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/08/ebola-immortalise-adadevoh-says-azikiwe/

Read her biography here (pay attention to the 'Personal Life' section):

http://drasatrust.org/biography/

And Femi Fani-Kayode confirms her blood relationship to the Azikiwes here:

http://dailypost.ng/2014/08/24/femi-fani-kayode-ameyo-adadevoh-ebola-conspiracy/

Bottom line: She was Ghanaian. If you want to chip in her other ancestries, then the more honest thing would be to say she was Nigerian-Ghanaian.

Anyway sha, what's my own? I'm not here to play the pathetic game of dragging achievers with you losers [Igbo and Yoruba losers inclusive]. I only commented because I found the 'Yoruba-Ghanaian' tag hilarious!

Have a nice day.

'Land-grabber' indeed. Bwahahaha!

Yoruba-Ghanaian? Why not Yoruba-Igbo-Ghanaian? Her paternal great-grandmother was after all Nnamdi Azikiwe's father's sister.

Yoruba, Bariba, probably Nupe and Fulani, too. It is not ethnically homogenous.

Goodboiyy:
Hmmm, d way u keep defending Yorubas is your husband/Fiancee from there ? I gat 1 question for you.

If for example Ilaje was ceded to Delta State Will You still Claim They re Yoruba ?.

Well Thanks for your gentle Reply , let Ilaje's speak for themselves.

One Luv

I don't call it defending. LOL. I just like things being put as they are.

As for your question, I feel like I have to make one thing perfectly clear: I am not claiming anybody to be any thing. I merely showed you from Ilaje websites that Ilaje people themselves describe themselves officially as Yoruba.

What will happen if they are ceded to Delta State? I don't know - I'm not psychic. Although, I know that ethnic affiliations are sometimes made and broken depending on political climate. So, it won't surprise me a lot if they then begin to drift away from mainstream Yoruba ethnic politics. But I even doubt that they would go that far since they have strong traditions that derived them from Ile-Ife. Those traditions are bound to keep them within the Yoruba commonwealth.

TonySpike:
I don't know why you even bothered to reply or correct some of these online nonentities. I can bet that the guy you quoted is most likely to be from the South-East. When you see online commenters producing random percentages like 80% of them, 85% of Abuja, 75% of Lagos and so on...they are most likely to be from the "highly revered" Igboland!

LOL. He's been posting here for a while. He is not fond of the Igbos at all. He's Itsekiri. I'm very sure about that.

Goodboiyy:
my point here is tat ilaje re more related to us than most Yoruba sub group.

if an Ilaje man speaks u from Ogun won't understand, likewise us, 80% of them sees themselves as ilaje.

PS: I hold nothing against Yoruba, am just telling wat I know

Did you take a poll to arrive at that 80%?

It doesn't even mean anything if 100% of them see themselves as Ilaje...because 100% of Ijebu see themselves as Ijebu, and 100% of Ekiti see themselves as Ekiti. On a higher level of kinship, all identify as Yoruba, and that includes the Ilaje.

So what if their dialect has affinities with Itsekiri language? Every objective scholar knows that Itsekiri language is basically Yoruba-derived with Edo loanwords. That the Itsekiri do not identify as Yoruba doesn't change linguistic facts. Though I respect their decision to be themselves, but language-wise let's not deceive ourselves.

Again, so what if someone from the more central Yoruba areas do not understand Ilaje easily? Do you think all Yorubas can communicate easily among themselves if they speak only their dialects? Do you know how many Yorubas have told me that they do not understand Ekiti and Awori people when they speak? Should Awori and Ekiti cease to be Yoruba, then?

Ilaje people have spoken. Their official position which you can find on their websites and other forums is that they are a sub-group of Yoruba - like all the other subgroups. Leave then alone and focus on your Itsekiri ethnic disitinction.

PS: I'm not even Yoruba. I'm from the Niger Delta like you ( though I prefer not to talk about my ethnicity.) I'm just someone with a professional interest in Nigerian groups.

sukkot:
my native dialect ? engriss language

i dont think i have a native dialect. i am from lagos state. ikorodu. just normal yoruba

LOL. You are Ijebu, and you don't think you have a native dialect? Kai, cosmopolitanism has dealt with us.

Goodboiyy:
Ilaje is entirely different from most Yoruba Dialect, There language is more related to Us (Itsekiri) An Average Ilaje Man sees himself as an Ilaje man nt Yoruba , but only On NL do you see Them tagging Ilaje Yoruba, Maybe Its because Of There Riches .....



Ilaje Is Ilaje
Yoruba is Yoruba
Itsekiri is Itsekiri.

Big tribe always looking for way to claim Small tribe in Nigeria, Same sheet happening in Delta north

Oh really? You are in a position to speak for the Ilaje?

I guess we should all listen to you rather than the Ilaje people in these Ilaje-owned websites who clearly say Ilaje are a Yoruba sub-group (like all the other subgroups).

http://www.ilajecwa.org.uk/history.htm

http://ilajeusa.com/History.htm

Talk about your own Itsekiri and leave the Ilaje alone.

absoluteSuccess:
I think its not that straightforward, if not, the constitution would have made provisions for gay marriage the day the country pened its charter on marriage. Then if this woman is acting in her faith in God, is it no longer the AMERICA whose banner is 'In God We Trust'? Since change has come, it would be a tug of war between the old and new school that the constitution protects, till the Union expounge the word 'God' out of the declaration of independence.

I don't quite follow, sir. What does expunging the word 'God' from the Declaration have to do with homosexuality? You do know that there are people who believe in God who are also pro-gay, don't you?

You seem to want to limit God to your own Christian views. The idea of God is more universalistic than that. Well, here is the news: The Declaration of Independence is not in any way, shape or form pro-Christian or pro-any-specific-religion. The founding fathers of America (most of who were deistic, rather than Christian) made it very clear that America was not to have one religion.

I also wonder if that very 'Christian' clerk would have refused to issue divorce certificates to couples who wish to break up on non-adultery grounds.

So, let me understand this. An institution says gay marriage is okay. You work for that institution. You want to continue working for that institution. But you won't do your work that's in line with the institution's policy?

No, José. It doesn't work like that. When you find your philosophy clashing with the philosophy of your employers, YOU QUIT. You do not stay there and refuse to do your job. RESIGN and discriminate against gay people in YOUR OWN space that you control. That is allowed in a free country.

bigfrancis21:
This is weird to me but I am liking this your post for no reason.

Weird - how?

The whole Abobaku thing was nauseating, really. Very unneccesary. But I've got a few questions, OP:

1. Why are Yoruba people assuming that Igbos were the only people spreading the Abobaku stories? Because I know lots of people who were tweeting about it and taunting Yorubas while at it who aren't Igbos. Matter of them, some of them were even (poorly informed) non-Ife Yorubas. Like most things, y'all are trying to make this another Igbo-vs-Yoruba thing, and that I think is not helpful. Each time either of the two groups is slighted, they believe it's the people across the Niger doing the slighting, even when it is being done by a larger section of Nigerian society.

2. Let's not pretend non-Igbos didn't make fun of Ojukwu when he died. We know they did. So that part of your post is dishonest. They even made fun of Achebe, especially because as a man of title it was being said he was buried after dark. It wasn't only when Adekunle and Oba Sijuwade died that taunters went to town.

Interestingly, one of the pictures you shared shows a comment by an Igbo man debunking the Abobaku lies. The same people you want to implicate in the slander.

Peace