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The question to ask here is: Why should mixed-race people identify as Black if they are made of other races aside from Black? Most Dominicans are of Black, White and Native American descent. Why should they single out black out of the mix as their racial identity?

Don't forget that this idea that anything mixed with black is black is a very American idea (the one-drop rule), and by American I mean the US. Latin America (including Dominica) has a different understanding of race. I see no reason why an American idea should be binding on people who come from places with different racial categorizations. Most Dominicans don't perceive themselves as black until they come to the States, and I perfectly understand why many of them fight that categorization, because it's different from the racial structure they have back home.

Aren't African Americans generally better off than Africans, financially speaking? What are we going to use to pay the reparations, our faeces?

The Igbo say, you don't look for something in the bag of someone who is looking for something.

SlyDev:
Dude please Yoruba did it without help, you know what I'm saying but you keep deflecting

Go and read the history of the Haitian Revolution, oga. Stop ascribing everything to your group. This is something all you Nigerians do across board. And it's childish.

Btw, I am not a dude. I'm sure you see the 'f' beside my name.

SlyDev:
That one too but they had help from British and French royalist

Lol. Please, tell me which of the planners of the Haitian Revolution was Yoruba. Henri Christophe, L'Ouveture, Dessalines? Who?

SlyDev:
Yoruba stage the best slavery rebellion

Yoruba staged the Haitian Revolution?

Are all your pictures close-up shots of your face?

BKayy:
I am not here to argue to and fro, after all I won't be the one to go blind.
Don't disturb me.
Infact avoid me

Lmao. Do you always try to cop out like this when you're wrong?

BKayy:
Ijebu Garri outside Nigeria? you are the Funniest ignoramus I have seen this year.

Until Ijebu Garri is cured from Cyanogenic glycoside which is in Cassava itself , it can never meet the international nutritional standards and as such will be continued to be considered as poison over seas.

You clearly haven't travelled much. Packaged Ijebu garri are on shelves in UK stores.

LiberatedGirl:
Nairaland has banned me like I'm Omotola and Genevieve, some guy who insulted me and I insulted him back has contacted Nairaland and iv been banned, I can't post any new thing for the next 3 days. Nairaland did not say I could not post for 3 days it the " server is down please wait for a few minutes " I'm seeing but it's going to be like this for 3 days. When a woman stands up for her rights in Africa she gets punishment.

How did you post this if you were banned?

In a week's time it will be two months since this man started trying to kill you.

Two months.

Just saying.

Who is Nelly Ofoegbu?

yorubakid:
Thrash!! You know nothing.. when I was in UNN I met lots of Nsukka indigenes with Ezeh as their surname..

Is 'Ezeh' pronounced differently from 'Eze'? That is his point. People putting 'h' at the end of 'Eze' are only stylizing the name. It doesn't affect the pronunciation of the name in anyway.

It's like one of my friends who spells his last name as 'Okoyeh', but this is just a personal idiosyncrasy of his family. Their Okoyeh is not pronounced differently from Okoye, at all.

Ctorch:
What is the Difference between Onuora and Onuoha? Are they the same?

Is it Theresa Onuoha or Theresa Onuora.

People are contending against and for the name on Facebook.

The difference is dialect. If you're referring to the singer from Unubi, Anambra State, it is Theresa Onuora.

BeeAll1:
Rivers state has different tribes like Kalabari, Ogoni, Andoni, Ikwerre and more. Only one tribe uses Igbo names and that is the Ikwerre tribe

Not true.

Ikwerre, Etche, Ogba, Ekpeye, Ndoni, Egbema, the Asa/Ndoki people in Oyigbo LGA. All these 'tribes' use Igbo names.

Short answer... White rapist blood.

MitrikDenholm:
Judging from the trailer, the story seems completely corrupted. I think of they are going to do her history justice then they ought to do the proper research which it seems they haven't. Best of all, I just feel it's not their story to tell. Maybe they should have included a few kannywood actors or at least get a Hausa actress to portray the titular role. Imagine casting a white guy to play Malcolm X. The Hausa language should at least have some part in this. It just looks and feels all wrong in my opinion.

Oh, I see. I read the synopsis and there were Kannywood actors involved, most prominent being Ali Nuhu and Yakubu Muhammed.

A Kannywood production of Amina's story already exists; I don't see anything wrong with this one obviously aimed at a wider audience.

What is wrong with it? Is it the fact that it was directed and produced by Igbo film makers?

I like the battle scene, btw. Nollywood makes really shitty battle scenes. It was refreshing to see this one. Didn't know about this film until now, and now I just have to see it.

AlderFadington:
Don't go about perverting your "histories"or forwarding your opinion as that of the majority.

Igbos believe they're Israelis and are all over the place shouting lost tribe of Israel. Went as far as having Israelis come here to conduct DNA tests.

Yoruba see oduduwa as an ancestor. Some a God and generally the progenitor of the Yoruba race. We also have Yorubas all over this forum claiming origins from one end of the world to another.

You'll never see Hausas claiming they're from Baghdad on anywhere else. Our history book especially the kano chronicles specify that the abagawayas who were kanos first settlers were African and most of the migrants to Hausa land has been Africans afterwards bar a few figures.

We know who we are and are proud of who we are. Can you say the same about your people?

Me, perverting our "histories"?

Okay.

You can believe what Middle-East wannabes post online if that is what you prefer. (They are actually the ones perverting history and tradition.)

Wait, isn't Bayajidda supposed to be a corruption of Abu Yazid?

AlderFadington:
Lol what youre referring to speaks of a man who came and met people and then married a Hausa queen.

Bayajidda is seen as more of a founder of states than a progenitor or ancestor because we as a people existed before him.

His name means "he didn't understand (the language that is) before" meaning he did not speak Hausa before.

How is that different from what some Igbos and Yorubas believe about their own history?

When Eri came from 'Israel', he met Igbo people there. Tradition only says Eri came and united scattered hamlets along the Anambra River. There are still groups of people (Adama in Nri, Nudu in Igbariam, Okpu in Aguleri) who affirm that they were in existence before the arrival of Eri.

When Oduduwa came from 'Arabia', he met Yoruba people there. Ile-Ife was already a cluster of thirteen chiefdoms each headed by an Oba before Oduduwa came and unified them into a city and then a kingdom.

Nobody has ever made the claim that Yoruba- and Igboland were empty of people before these legendary figures arrived.

BTW, I said "some" because many Yorubas and Igbos do not believe that these culture heroes came from the middle east at all. Even here on NL, you'll see a number of them strongly attacking the claims. Professional historians of both ethnicities, do not subscribe to the middle east stories at all. Only quacks and very gullible people.

AlderFadington:
Lol. Okay you angry troll. Im just saying, we should be excluded because we're not supposed to be in here in the first place. We never claimed we are not african, our history certainly has never claimed we are not Africans? Igbos are from Israel, Yorubas from Mecca, we never claimed non African origin, nothing suggest we are non African so why are we included in this again? When you lot are trying to solve your confusion I just don't understand why you also have to include us in your madness.

*cough* Baghdad *cough*

Abdul4trust1:
there Are Islamic Names.

"Islamic Names" would mean that those names were not in use or known before the advent of Islam. Can we in all honesty say that the pagan Arabs didn't use names like Idris, Umar, Abubakar, Abdullah, Zainab, etc, before the Prophet converted the Arabian Peninsula to Islam? Can we also say in all honesty that Arab Christians of the past and the present didn't/don't use these same names?

scholes0:
A lot of Yoruba slaves were Muslim.
I think he was called Book-man presumable because of the Quran the other slaves always saw with hin.

I am not 100% sure he was a Yoruba. But I have seen certain sources saying he was.
Which other African slaves had both elements of Islam and the so called “Voodoo” In the form of Yoruba religious practices if not Yorubas

Well, it isn't certain he was Muslim - the sources all say 'probably'. And he was called Boukman because he taught himself to read and write. Not because he carried a Qu'ran about.

Voodoo (from vodun) was a Fon (not a Yoruba) import to the New World.

I think some of the sources that say he was Yoruba (incidentally the bulk of them seem to have been from Yoruba scholars) are basing their conclusion on the Ogun angle, forgetting that Black New World culture was very syncretic --- and Yoruba deities were widely adopted and worshipped in the New World by slaves who originally came from outside Yorubaland.

Some of the sources also say Boukman was an Obeah man. The term Obeah, originally thought to be of Ashanti origin, is now figured to have been Igbo by latest research. Incidentally, Boukman was born in Jamaica, where it appears Akan and Igbo slaves were predominant. I won't base any theory on Boukman's origins on 'Obeah' either, for the same reason I won't base them on Voodoo or Ogun.

Long and short --- we don't know anything about Dutty Boukman's ethnic roots.

I agree with you on one thing though: this post is striving to exaggerate the role played by Igbo slaves in the Revolution. They no doubt played a role as the rank-and-file, like other slaves on the island. The core leadership however seem to have been provided largely by slave of Fon orign.

In Haitian lore, Igbos are better know as people who rebelled against slavery by taking their own lives, rather than as people who picked up weapons to fight the white master.

They have a saying in Haiti to this day. Ibos pend' cor'a yo: The Ibos hang themselves.

scholes0:
You are right.
Indeed he became the face of the revolution, buy a lot more African revolutionaries were involved.

As a matter of fact I plan to create a thread about the Yoruba origins of the Haitian revolution very soon.

I just read where you said Dutty Boukman was Yoruba. Is that a fact? I didn't know anything was known about his origins besides that he was probably a Muslim, and he had come from Jamaica to Haiti.

devindevin2000:
Typical Afonja, just dumb and cannot reason whenever Igbo is mentioned in limelight, it angers him, he goes online, find whatever he can find and posts it. Dumb thing! Toussaint Louverture and Jean Jacques Dessalines led the Haitan revolution. Both got their inspiration from Igbo landing, where the Igbos revolted against their slave masters. This happened 17 century and the Haitian revolution happened in 18 century. Watch the video and listened to what they said. Stop hating on Igbos...they are also trying to free you dumb slave!

Igbo landing? LOL. Igbo landing did not inspire the Haitian Revolution.

scholes0:
François-Dominique Toussaint Louverture A Benin republic prince of Allada Dahomean descent led and organized the Haitian revolution after everyone involved engaged in a Voodoo blood pact at the ceremony of Bos Caiman.

Some people should stop trying to appropriate the Hairian revolution which was a joint rejection by all slaves of African desxent on that Island against oppression and slavery.

Even though Toussaint became the face of the Haitian Revolution, the revolution was already underway before he joined in.

This may not be a very smart move, considering that APC will NOT win the election.

It will go to either Willie, Oseloka or Chidoka. And if Willie gets it, he will remember this insult.

deedeedee1:
Yes you are right, black people hate themselves, that is why World war 1 and 2 were fought by them. Armenian genocide, the Holocaust, Ukranian genocide, Indonesian genocide, and the recent myanmar genocide were all executed by black people.
Black people are the only wicked and hateful souls on earth.
You are very right.

First, shelve the sarcasm.

Second, you see all these things you were saying about wars and genocides? That's what is called a straw man. Look it up if you don't know what it means.

The biggest lesson to be learnt from comments on this thread is that Nigerians don't have data to be watching YouTube videos.

obong:
Why the attempt to wrest this script from the ejagham ?

No one, NO ONE, is wresting anything from the Ejagham! It is all in your head.

By the way, the Ibibio-Efik also copied it from the Ejagham , yet I have never seen people get this worked up when Ibibio-Efik discuss Nsibidi as part of their heritage. It is only a problem when it is Igbos. Check yourself.

What's all this about having used it for a while. In two centuries will the Greek alphabet Latin alphabet now be Igbo because you've used it for a while.

It is Latin alphabet, mate. See, it was adapted from the Greek alphabet by the Latins; and no one has the tiniest problem calling it the Latin alphabet. Pay attention; I already told you about that.

FYI, there is actually already an Igbo alphabet, based on the Latin one, of course. The Yoruba and many other African ethnicities also have their own alphabetical systems based on the Latin one. I'm sure the Italians wouldn't care if they knew.

I'm opposing those claiming that revived it. Those claiming because a small portion of Igbos imported the script that Igbos own it. I'm oppose those that imply the script somehow translates to Igbo and the general impression given that it's an Igbo creation. This is how culture is misappropriated. The word nsibidi isn't even Igbo.

Circles. Circles. Circles. For the umpteenth time, no one is claiming it is an Igbo creation. No one is claiming the word nsibidi is Igbo. Point to where the OP made those claims. You are only creating strawmen here. You are just making things up in your head. You and every other Akwa-Cross person that feels this way are.

And when people say they are reviving or have revived nsibidi, what they are referring to is the modern attempt to adapt a viable modern written script from the nsibidi system and make it a medium of communication outside the small closed-off Ekpe society. The people who I know who are invested in this project happen to be Igbo individuals.

And have you ever seen other Europeans claim tye greek alphabet is french or English ? It's properly attributed as the Greek alphabet Latin alphabet. If the English tried to claim it I guarantee they'd be an uproar as there Should be.

Well, the English call their alphabetical system (which they adapted from the Latin Alphabet) the English alphabet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_alphabet

And the French call theirs the French alphabet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_orthography#Alphabet

I want to assure you that as I type this there is no uproar in Italy or in Greece about it.

Ajikobi1:
Lagos is smaller than Kano na. We'll remove like 6-7 Lagos from Kano if I'm right. I respect you Iku baba yeye sir. But, it's not possible sir. It's only in Lagos a place as small as Tanke will be a local government or as small as Oke-Odo. I think it's okay like that.

Still missing the point. It shouldn't be about landmass. It should be about size of the population. Government carters to people, and not empty space. It makes no sense having 44 local governments for 6 million people and only 20 local governments for 20 million people, just because the former has a bigger land space.

Yes, black people have been socially and historically conditioned to hate themselves.