Keep at it, Kanoro. Views will certainly pick up. Give it time. I like this.

Great!

When will you be uploading the first episode? Isn't it 'later tonight' yet?


[PS: The 'lady' trying to engage you in a back-and-forth is a legendary troll. You might want to save yourself the stress of typing back ]

SAMBARRY:


pele o my sister, for my nonsense this afternoon

God will provide me with a brain eventually, so that I will come to understand that:

1. Wulfruna is a female, and not a male, and so cannot be hating on Tonto because she married Churchill.

2. That me and Wulfruna are actually on the same side on this Tonto story.

3. That when Wulfruna said 'epically silly comment' she meant the fan's comment and not Tonto's reply.

4. That I have been so brainless to understand that her comment was towards the fan, and because of this I have been stupidly attacking her when there is really no reason for me to do so.

Amen.

Amen.

SAMBARRY:
I reiterate for the purpose of emphasis - I am a mannerless beast

And I hear you, brother.

SAMBARRY:
I am a manner less he goat

OK.

SAMBARRY:
Ask yourself and your fellow manner less and untrained kids

Hian! I don't know what your problem is, Oga. You quoted me and made a comment that I didn't understand. I asked for clarification politely and got an insult. Are you one of those people that log on here daily just to look for people to fight with? You did not see me.

Anyway, my initial comment that you quoted was directed at the fan - and not at Tonto. Now, kindly lay off.

SAMBARRY:
but the fan wasn't patronizing and stupid

smh

Uhm...what are you talking about, please?

So Cynthia made some good points.... But the grammar ( e.g, Lited) and the horrid use or misuse of punctuation was just jarring.

That was an epically stupid comment though.

People still make Abobaku jokes? Mehn, that has to be one of the most tired joke-stocks around here.

Yoruba movies lack creativity compared to the English-language movies?

Hahaha!

9jacrip:



I was surprised when I saw my fellow Yoruba twisting the event so as to place the blame on the Igbo; I wondered to myself, was Falae blind or what to have confused Fulani for Igbo? Or do they know better than the victim?

It is horrible, it has gotten offline but has not exploded into an open conflict yet.

Offline? Nawa oh!

I can only hope that like most former Igbo-Yoruba 'dramas', both parties will just exchange verbal bullets, and disperse when they are done.

9jacrip:



The hatred for the Igbo has eaten deep into some people's sense of judgement.

Honestly, I didn't know it was this bad until I saw comments people were making in the wake of Chief Falae's kidnapping.

9jacrip:


The Fulani are have slaughtered Yoruba in numbers and also destroyed their farms.

Igbo on the other hand engage Yoruba in verbal onslaught only with no physical harm carried out by either group.

I wonder why the Igbo should still be the problem.

Apparently, claiming that they run/own Lagos pisses people off more than attacking people's farms and killing 'em.

Maybe if Igbos stopped mouthing off and attack people on their farms instead, they won't be seen as a problem/threat anymore.

9jacrip:



Edited.

You're a muslim?

Oh, no.

I was only kidding.

TonyeBarcanista:
His Excellency Dr Goodluck Ebelemi Jonathan deserves the Noble Peace Prize of 2015. My position is premise on the fact that he took a decision that averted a potential civil crisis in the country. It was not just about concession of defeat, it was actually about concession of defeat that averted potential crisis. We can all recall the event of 2011 and how President Buhari who was opposition candidate refused to accept defeat nor calm nerves when the crisis erupted. If GEJ had insisted on contesting the 2015 result, all hell would have been let loosed by the ever-ready to kill Sai Buharists up north and the bittered pro-Jonathans in the Niger Delta. Who would have suffered? The poor masses!

So in all fairness, Nigerians must jettison partisanship and support the candidacy of Goodluck Jonathan.

Well, that ship has already sailed. The prize was awarded to a group of Tunisians yesterday.

If this is the kind of information you could get online, then rain makers would have since gone out of business.

9jacrip:
Shey the males who died won't get 72 virgins each ni?

I wonder what the females will get

Boxes of never-ending chocolate and cups of never-ending ice cream!

And the assurance that we will never get fat no matter how much we eat!

The fact that an African statesman would even be considered for a Nobel Peace Prize simply for accepting defeat in an election is a big indication of what a long way Africans still have to go. That recommendation was nothing but a celebration of mediocrity, something Africans do all too well and often.

I do not understand the comparison with the Staff of Moses.

alanmwene:

So to speak the truth is to be a hater?How many people speak hausa compare to Swahili?Wiith Tanzania(40millions) and Kenya(36 millions) you already have ways more people speaking Swahili than hausa.Then add Drc,uganda,zambia,comores.....etc...Don't forget that 3 out of 4 Somalis speak Swahili and a lot of Ethiopians as well.Beauty wise there is no contest between Swahili and hausa.Swahili wins hand down!

Swahili song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcFfSGdbcjQ

Versus hausa song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx2V3hdVTf0

What you are making here is misleading comparison for a number of reasons.

First, the people in the second video are not Hausa, but Fulani. And as the setting is a traditional Fulani setting, I'd wager that the language they were speaking there is Fulfude, and not Hausa.

Second, if you are trying to compare the aesthetic quality of two languages, you don't post one video of talented female vocalists doing a modern pop song, and then try to compare with another video of non-professional singer-males doing an off-key chant (not even a real song) in a traditional setting.

Nori:
Why do nairalanders pay so much attention on Igbos? Whats so special about them? They are just like.the rest of.the nigerian population.

I don't understand it myself.

Fulaman198:
Ladies,

As much as i'm enjoying both of you going back and forth with your great debate, don't you both have more important things to be doing like putting your feet on Fulaman's face (oops I mistype ).

But in any case, you both have great opinions and I think that in essence you are both trying to say the same thing though in different ways.

Ihuomadinihu:

Lol,if you followed my arguments you would have realized that i agreed that Timbuktu was a Southern Saharan city. That has been concluded. You were probably hanging onto other issues which am not aware of. After that we argued about the definition of Black and Negro in Africa. You didn't pick any of these? Lastly,we argued about the classification of 'blacks' in Africa which is plain to a layman. Why are you drawing me to a fresh ridiculous argument?
When you argue with people,learn how to pick up vibes and responses of your co debators.

No, you never agreed. If you did you made it so cryptic that I'm sure no one here picked up on it.

Anyway, like you, my work here is done. K'odi.

Ihuomadinihu:

Geographical terms doesn't negate the fact that both regions are populated by people that have distinct features. Am so done with this argument!

Come back, please. I have one more question, or two. Why are you so hung up on looks?

What triggered this whole debate was the statement that Timbuktu is geographically Saharan, and not sub-Saharan. You countered and said that it was sub-Saharan and not Saharan. Then you started talking about looks - which has nothing to do with the original debate - which was purely a matter of geography.

Really, the way you argue is confounding. I've literally never had any experience like this.

Let me please take you back to the original debate: Do you still think that, despite what the reality is, Timbuktu is a sub-Saharan city?

Ihuomadinihu:

She brought in the white element,so lecture her.

I didn't bring in any white element as far as the Sahara is concerned. This is another indication that you don't understand what other people have been saying on this thread.

First there is a reason I put 'white' and 'whitish' elements in inverted commas in that comment.

Second, I was referring to the Mediterranean North African Berbers who are clearly more 'white'-looking (inverted commas again) than most people you will meet in the Sahara in Mali or Niger.

Again i'll repeat: this discussion is irrelevantly veering into issues that are unrelated to the onus of this discussion, which are:

1. Timbuktu is in the Sahara, and therefore is a Saharan city.

2. The words 'Sahara and 'Sunsaharan' do not have racial meanings and are purely geographical terms.

Any other issues outside these are superfluous lengthening of what should be an open-and-shut case.

Ihuomadinihu:

Saharan is Negriod/Berber/Tuareg and Arabic Influenced. Africa may be diverse but that doesn't mean i see myself related Khoisans or Berbers of the Sahara. *different classification of blacks.

This discussion is blowing up. It was and legitimately is a geography issue. This race thing that you've introduced will only end up confusing even yourself.
I decide to highlight the word 'Tuareg' in this post, because there is an interesting thing I want to bring to your attention concerning 'Tuareg' and 'Timbuktu'.

Are you aware that Timbuktu was originally founded by Tuaregs? Before the Mande dynasty of Mali gained control of it and transformed it into the famous city it became?

So legitimately, Timbuktu stands on Tuareg land. You are willing to classify the people ad Saharan, but want to classify their native territory differently? How does that make sense.

This is a simple issue that can be settled by acknowledging that 'Saharan' and 'subsaharan' are geographic terms independent of racial connotations.

Ihuomadinihu:

Those civilizations are not considered 'black' African civilization. They are more related to North African and Berber populations racially. You don't only need to redefine Subsaharan but also the word Negro.

Please, name those civilizations you are talking about. I just want to make sure we are on the same page, because I get the feeling that we are having very different and confusing arguments here.

Fulaman198:


Exactly also many people make the erroneous claim that Berbers are "white". I believe the true Berbers (like the Tuaregs, Siwa, Gourara whom actually practise Berber culture and speak the Berber language) are black but a different "kind" of black.

Of course. The oldest skulls found through out the Sahara and even as far as Southern Algeria belonged to what anthropologists today will call the 'negroid' type.

The "white" or "whitish" element came in at a later point in history.

Funjosh:



But we can't just abandon the blacks in the sahara desert just because they are located above the sub-saharan region mainly dominated by blacks.

I think she wants us to override geographical reasoning and just call them subsaharan, because according to her 'saharan' and 'subsaharan' are not really geographical terms per se, but racial terms.

Saharan = Arab/Berber

Subsaharan = 'Negroid'

Ihuomadinihu:

The Black Africans of Congo and Yorubaland are different from the blacks of most parts of Niger and Chad. That is a fact! I don't care about your defintion of Black Africa but we are dealing with different types of black. No,it doesn't have to only Subsaharan before we can call it an African civilization but i will not pretend not to notice the difference in both geographical regions.
In simple terms, subsaharan is associated with groups of negriod extraction anything above it is associated with ''Arabian/Berber division of black Africa

And I've already told you that this association is simplistic and in fact erroneous. There are Saharan 'Negroes' (to use your word). To deny Timbuktu's geographical location because you fear that describing it as Saharan means assigning it to the Arabs, is ridiculous. Its location is in the Southern Sahara, and therefore it is a Saharan city.

If describing it as a Saharan city makes you worry that we are handing our heritage over to Arabs, then you are the one who needs to revisit your definition of 'Saharan' and 'sub-Saharan'.

Ihuomadinihu:

In that premise,it's not a subsaharan civilization. Do you see the point now?

Does it have to be 'subsaharan' before it can be regarded as an authentic black African achievement? Subsaharan is nothing but a geographic designation. And as far as geography goes Timbuktu is Saharan, rather than sub-saharan.

The reason you are having difficulties getting the point Fulaman is trying to pass is that you (like many people) have accepted the erroneous idea that subsaharan is synonymous with black African...and that everything north of the Subsaharan line is not 'authentic black'. You need to shake off that idea. There are many black African ethnicities in the Sahara: the Tubus, etc. Timbuktu is equally a Saharan city, a West African city and a heritage of the black people. Get out of the 'Subsaharan equals to Black African' mindset.