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TonyeBarcanista:Well, that ship has already sailed. The prize was awarded to a group of Tunisians yesterday. |
If this is the kind of information you could get online, then rain makers would have since gone out of business. |
9jacrip:Boxes of never-ending chocolate and cups of never-ending ice cream! And the assurance that we will never get fat no matter how much we eat! ![]() |
The fact that an African statesman would even be considered for a Nobel Peace Prize simply for accepting defeat in an election is a big indication of what a long way Africans still have to go. That recommendation was nothing but a celebration of mediocrity, something Africans do all too well and often. |
I do not understand the comparison with the Staff of Moses. |
alanmwene:What you are making here is misleading comparison for a number of reasons. First, the people in the second video are not Hausa, but Fulani. And as the setting is a traditional Fulani setting, I'd wager that the language they were speaking there is Fulfude, and not Hausa. Second, if you are trying to compare the aesthetic quality of two languages, you don't post one video of talented female vocalists doing a modern pop song, and then try to compare with another video of non-professional singer-males doing an off-key chant (not even a real song) in a traditional setting. |
Nori:I don't understand it myself. |
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Ihuomadinihu:No, you never agreed. If you did you made it so cryptic that I'm sure no one here picked up on it. Anyway, like you, my work here is done. K'odi. |
Ihuomadinihu:Come back, please. I have one more question, or two. Why are you so hung up on looks? What triggered this whole debate was the statement that Timbuktu is geographically Saharan, and not sub-Saharan. You countered and said that it was sub-Saharan and not Saharan. Then you started talking about looks - which has nothing to do with the original debate - which was purely a matter of geography. Really, the way you argue is confounding. I've literally never had any experience like this. Let me please take you back to the original debate: Do you still think that, despite what the reality is, Timbuktu is a sub-Saharan city? |
Ihuomadinihu:I didn't bring in any white element as far as the Sahara is concerned. This is another indication that you don't understand what other people have been saying on this thread. First there is a reason I put 'white' and 'whitish' elements in inverted commas in that comment. Second, I was referring to the Mediterranean North African Berbers who are clearly more 'white'-looking (inverted commas again) than most people you will meet in the Sahara in Mali or Niger. Again i'll repeat: this discussion is irrelevantly veering into issues that are unrelated to the onus of this discussion, which are: 1. Timbuktu is in the Sahara, and therefore is a Saharan city. 2. The words 'Sahara and 'Sunsaharan' do not have racial meanings and are purely geographical terms. Any other issues outside these are superfluous lengthening of what should be an open-and-shut case. |
Ihuomadinihu:This discussion is blowing up. It was and legitimately is a geography issue. This race thing that you've introduced will only end up confusing even yourself. I decide to highlight the word 'Tuareg' in this post, because there is an interesting thing I want to bring to your attention concerning 'Tuareg' and 'Timbuktu'. Are you aware that Timbuktu was originally founded by Tuaregs? Before the Mande dynasty of Mali gained control of it and transformed it into the famous city it became? So legitimately, Timbuktu stands on Tuareg land. You are willing to classify the people ad Saharan, but want to classify their native territory differently? How does that make sense. This is a simple issue that can be settled by acknowledging that 'Saharan' and 'subsaharan' are geographic terms independent of racial connotations. |
Ihuomadinihu:Please, name those civilizations you are talking about. I just want to make sure we are on the same page, because I get the feeling that we are having very different and confusing arguments here. |
Fulaman198:Of course. The oldest skulls found through out the Sahara and even as far as Southern Algeria belonged to what anthropologists today will call the 'negroid' type. The "white" or "whitish" element came in at a later point in history. |
Funjosh:I think she wants us to override geographical reasoning and just call them subsaharan, because according to her 'saharan' and 'subsaharan' are not really geographical terms per se, but racial terms. Saharan = Arab/Berber Subsaharan = 'Negroid' |
Ihuomadinihu:And I've already told you that this association is simplistic and in fact erroneous. There are Saharan 'Negroes' (to use your word). To deny Timbuktu's geographical location because you fear that describing it as Saharan means assigning it to the Arabs, is ridiculous. Its location is in the Southern Sahara, and therefore it is a Saharan city. If describing it as a Saharan city makes you worry that we are handing our heritage over to Arabs, then you are the one who needs to revisit your definition of 'Saharan' and 'sub-Saharan'. |
Ihuomadinihu:Does it have to be 'subsaharan' before it can be regarded as an authentic black African achievement? Subsaharan is nothing but a geographic designation. And as far as geography goes Timbuktu is Saharan, rather than sub-saharan. The reason you are having difficulties getting the point Fulaman is trying to pass is that you (like many people) have accepted the erroneous idea that subsaharan is synonymous with black African...and that everything north of the Subsaharan line is not 'authentic black'. You need to shake off that idea. There are many black African ethnicities in the Sahara: the Tubus, etc. Timbuktu is equally a Saharan city, a West African city and a heritage of the black people. Get out of the 'Subsaharan equals to Black African' mindset. |
macof:Brother mi, easy oh! ![]() But truly, the scape-goating is sad and very very shameful. If I am to speak the truth, I see Igbos as largely loudmouthed and irritating (very irritating, honestly), rather than a real threat. I can't fathom how anyone who is familiar with the violence being wrecked by the herdsmen in central and southern Nigeria could lead himself into thinking that Igbos are a bigger threat. It is beyond me. |
The southern edge of the Sahara is still part of the Sahara. The meaning would have been different if it was 'south of the Sahara.' |
Sorry, this makes very little sense. Is the Association of Fulani Herdsmen telling us that they are privy to everything their members do, legal and illegal? That's like saying the Rotary Club of Nigeria knows everything its members do. If a Rotarian smuggles drugs to Malaysia or kills a politician the Rotary Club execs must be privy to it, right? Bulldung. And the usual knuckleheads are here poking fingers at the people from the East. I laugh! |
I see domes on some of the buildings in the first picture. Are the building mosques or have anything to do with Islam? How prominent is Islam in Finland? |
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Anambra people in the house, please what does the 'arado' in Chukwuarado and Anarado mean? |
macof:I'm going to be fair to them a little and say that there are perhaps two possibilities: One - maybe the half-Portuguese prince who became Olu back then was a powerful figure, who used his connections with Portugal and some other European powers to go against tradition and force the kingmakers to crown him. Two - maybe the rule against the children of non-Bini, non-Itsekiri women ascending the throne is a recent creation (perhaps originating from the time the Itsekiri were having feuds with their immediate neighbours, the Urhobo and the Ijaw), and so wasn't in place during the time of Olu Domingo. Either way, I think it's a ridiculous tradition and should be gotten rid of. |
Wait, this picture offended people? This very picture I'm looking at offended people? What is this - Saudi Arabia? |
I laugh at people who say the nomadic Fulani are not 'sophisticated' enough to have executed this kidnapping operation. Y'all know nothing about the nomadic Fulani and their organizational structure. Who do you suppose created and sustained the largest empire precolonial Nigeria ever saw? I'll give you a clue: the nomadic Fulani. |
macof:Exactly. |
Ioannes:Niger State is even bigger: 76,363 km sq. |
macof:It is not just sad. It is scary. These two ethnicities (Igbo and Yoruba) are so absorbed in this feud they've got going on that they may be unable to recognise more imminent and deadlier threats from another quarter, like this issue with herdsmen. Threats that face all Southerners (and Middle Belters) alike. I have family members that saw the after effects of the clashes these guys had with villagers in Delta and Enugu. Sorry to my decent Fulani people, but these herdsmen are ruthless! There's only one group that benefits from the division/rivalry in the south - the Northern Hegemony, a significant percentage of whom are Fulani. |
Abeokuta means 'Under the Rock' and not 'Place of Rock'. I believe the Igbo would be 'Okpuru Okwute', not 'Ebe Okwute'. |
My, my. It's pathetic and sad that there are people commenting here who would rather not talk about the facts, but would rather make stories up and point fingers at Ibos as the perpetrators of this crime. Sorry, but do you really fear the Fulani that much that you have to invent a scapegoat to take the blame for the crime they committed? |
ellachuku:And a little stupidity is worse. |

