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maestroferddi: I am personally astounded by the developments in this country. The degree of bitterness and intolerance are getting pretty worrisome.

Granted, the government in power has a lot to do to meet the expectation of the electorates that voted it into power. But then we have to draw a line between a constructive opposition and sheer unreasonableness.


In other climes, opposition elements make their mark by complementing the party in power. In other words, they, as a watchdog of government, provide constructive opposition. They praise the government when it makes positive progress and provide constructive criticism when the government falls out of line.

From the foregoing, the opposition duly earn their respect and recognition.
Infact,the opposition conduct themselves as a credible alternative. Put in another way, the opposition demonstrate, by their action, that they be could entrusted to form a broad-based government without jeopardising the common good.


The case of Nigeria is pathetically unfortunate. We have a situation where the major opposition party practically see nothing good in whatever the government does. It is as if the main opposition party viz APC is pre-set willy-nilly to denigrate and disparage all actions of government.


I am constrained to ask whether this tendency is purely an African thing; where you must denigrate and malign your counterpart even when doi so is at the detriment of the common good...

The All Progressives Congress (APC), Nigeria's main opposition party, I believe, has not covered itself in that much glory over the past few days. One would have expected some level of appreciation and commendation for the growing democratic culture in Nigeria as witnessed by the free and fair elections in some states in the past few months.

Instead, all one hears are a cacophony of discordant voices.
Now, I am beginning to comprehend why Julius Nyerere asserted that African culture abhors opposition...

If i may ask ,How much were you paid for this? :-/

source identified two of the Nigerians he alleges to
be behind the Boko Haram militants.
One of them: former military Chief of Army Staff, Lt-
General Azubuike Ihejirika. The other: a former
state governor Modu Sheriff.

The disclosure was made in Australia by Stephen
Davis, a hostage negotiator reportedly hired by the
Nigerian government to interface with Boko Haram,
from whom he got the two names. General Ihejirika
swiftly denied any involvement.

The news was broken in Nigeria on Thursday by
Nasir El-Rufai, a former Minister.
Ihejirika, who was fired from his plum job last
January, immediately picked up his weapons and
aimed them in the direction of El-Rufai, calling him a
Boko Haram “commander.”
“The likes of El-Rufai have been supporting Boko
Haram,” he said in his rebuttal. “In fact, El-Rufai
and his likes are the same group of people that
ensured the army did not get the requested
equipment to deal with this menace once and for all,
as they used their cohorts to tell the government
that procuring modern equipment were not
necessary.”
He did not forget to throw in the ethnic card, either.
“When the Boko Haram operation started,
supporters of the sect like El-Rufai said that there
was nothing like Boko Haram and that the army
was just killing innocent youths. El-Rufai said that I
was re-inventing the killing of the Ibos during the
Biafra war following government’s determination to
rid the country of terrorism.”
For some reason, Ihejirika seemed to concentrate
his bullets on the emissary, rather than the
message, which was Davis. He did not say what he
did about “the El-Rufais” when he was in office.
That describes Nigeria rather well, in terms of our
persistent refusal to face the issues that confront
us. For a government which claims it really wants
to treat the Boko Haram infection, the Davis
intervention is a vital opening.
To begin with, the government, which knew—or
ought to have known—about the Davis allegations
before El-Rufai rang the bell, ought to have
commenced immediate investigations into the
allegations right away.
Ihejirika and Sheriff ought to have been arrested the
same day, and left with no chance to influence the
narrative.
The problem is the government of doubt in Abuja:
doubting itself, doubting its responsibilities, doubting
yesterday, doubting the questions, questioning the
doubts.
But for Abuja’s self-esteem crisis, we might
actually have reached the Davis level two and a half
years ago when President Goodluck Jonathan
himself first announced that he had Boko Haram
sympathizers in his government.
“Some of them are in the executive arm of
government, some of them are in the
parliamentary/legislative arm of government, while
some of them are even in the judiciary. Some are
also in the armed forces, the police and other
security agencies.”
How in the world does a leader identify the enemy
in the same room as he, but do nothing about it
even as that enemy inflicts increasing carnage in
the country?
But for Abuja’s self-esteem issues, we might
actually have reached the Davis level in April 2012
when National Security Adviser, Owoeye Azazi,
speaking a few months after Mr. Jonathan’s
remarks, said Nigeria needed to investigate the root
of the level of violence in Northeastern Nigeria [to
establish] whether it had escalated because the
group out of the blue became better trained, better
equipped and better funded.
He attributed the growing insecurity to what he
called “undemocratic practices” by the political
parties, and specifically indicting the ruling People’s
Democratic Party (PDP).
“The issue of violence did not increase in Nigeria
until when there was a declaration by the current
president that he was going to contest. PDP got it
wrong from the beginning. The party started by
saying Mr. A can rule, and Mr. B cannot rule,
according to PDP conventions, rules and regulations
and not according to the constitution. That created
the climate for what is happening or manifesting
itself in the country…”
The PDP, which is defined by power, not
responsibility, hated that kind of talk from an official
it considered to be its property rather than a servant
of the country. Two months later, Azazi was fired.
Seven months later, he died in a helicopter accident.
Azazi’s death ended any hopes of any more
uncomfortable questions from within the upper
echelons of power, but the disclosure by Dr. Davis
means that the old file ought to be re-opened. Will
the government of doubt do that? Better still, what
will the government do?
Judging solely from the track record of the
Jonathan government, we are to expect nothing.
Even if he did set up an investigation, such a
process will be abandoned once public focus is no
longer as harsh. His government, lacking interest in
accountability, characteristically and routinely
ignores such reports.
The truth is that this is how the Boko Haram
insurgency grew out of control. In the past couple
of years, not only has it unveiled itself as the most
destructive and divisive force since independence,
it has exposed the Jonathan government as divided
and incompetent, and the security agencies as
overblown and overrated.
While the presidential fleet of jets continues to grow,
Nigeria’s military has been exposed as being of
limited training and equipment; while the Nigerian
government continues to spend money recklessly
on its privileged inner circle, Nigeria’s infrastructure
decays; while Nigeria’s rulers make speeches, the
poverty and disenchantment are growing.
What next? The future is already here: Nigerian
soldiers refusing to fight, preferring the humiliation
of being court-martialed to execution by better-
armed, and perhaps better-trained militants.
The future is already here: a country where a small
group of violent militants armed itself, as well as
trained and mastered the terrain better than all of
the security agencies put together.
It is a sad, shameful day when Nigeria’s rulers
declare a state of emergency in the worst-affected
states, only for the militants to prove to be even
more diabolical in those states. It is an even more
shameful day to consider that a man of Ihejirika was
in charge of the army during a significant part of
this period, only to start pointing fingers after he has
been called out.
This is the tragedy of the Jonathan era: self-
doubting governance where fear is nurtured rather
than combatted; where the hard treatment is
avoided and the patient dies; where the criminals
are pardoned, not prosecuted. Our prize is that
million and millions of young citizens are left on the
streets to fend for themselves.
Hopefully, Boko Haram is as deep as we will ever
sink. It need not be this way. A responsible
government must find the courage to isolate the
enemy to defeat it. This can only be done if it first
establishes a capacity for social justice and the rule
of law. That is what #BringBackOurGirls is really
about, and why it defines the Jonathan government
so well.
Who are the sponsors of Boko Haram? Now Nigeria
has a good opportunity to find out. Can her
government of doubt find the heart?

By; SonalaOlumhense

http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/sunday/index.php/sonala-olumhense-syndicated/17973-under-the-hood-of-boko-haram

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I am planning to get the Reg form to write exams into NDA....i just concluded my secondary school last year...I got 9 credits in my waec exams.....Is there any possibility of me gaining admission without having anybody in the military??

Do they have a minimum age limit when giving admission??if yes,what age??

Con..wetin......
SMH


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richie44: Who get 2 biros

a typical example....

Mr Bravo: Dear God,
When am I going to be the first to comment on NL?

when hen grow teeth...

deols: Is one supposed to drink the first one, with its gokd content?

yea...probably since some(gold dust)are edible

Water, water everywhere, but not a
drop that we can afford to drink. That
probably is what people would say
when they see the price of these
exorbitant exotic bottled waters. And to
think that it seems to be anywhere
unless you are in one of the drought hit
areas in the world.

Bottled water can be purified, distilled,
sparkling or taken directly from the
spring. It can also be sourced from the
rain or the artesian well. Some would
put additional flavors into it. Some
become really costly because of its
limited supply and exotic nature. Others
are expensive simply because the one
who made it decided to make it a
luxury item.

Here now is a list of the top 10 most exotic and expensive bottled waters in the world.

1. Acqua di Cristallo Tributo a
Modigliani – $60,000 per 750 ml

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This is probably the most expensive
bottled water in the world. At $60,000
per 750 ml, this ought to quench your
thirst and empty your pocket. The
water is sourced from either France or
Fiji. If you really think about it, this is
not really that expensive considering
the fact that the bottle is made of solid
gold that weighs 24 karats. The bottle
was designed by Fernando Altamirano
of Tequila Ley fame, the makers of one
of the most expensive spirits in the
world. He is also credited with the
design of the Cognac Dudognon Heritage
Henri IV, considered the most expensive
cognac bottle in the world. Aside from
the solid gold bottle, there were also
versions in gold matte, silver, silver
matte, crystal and a variety of
combinations of all these. The non-
solid gold bottles sell for $3,600 dollars.
The bottles all come with a leather
case. The water also contains 5
milligrams of gold dust.

2. Kona Nigari Water – $402 per 750 ml

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The Kona Nigari water is bottled water
that is sold in Japan. It is advertised as
water that can help you lose weight,
reduce stress and improve skin tone and
quality. It is actually made of
desalinated sea water collected from a
couple of thousand feet below the
surface of the ocean in an area off the
island of Hawaii. In other words, you
pay more than 400 bucks to satisfy
your thirst while doing the job of a
dermatologist, fitness trainer and
psychiatrist combined. Maybe, it is not
such a bad deal.

3. Fillico – $219 per 750 ml
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The bottles are built like a chess piece,
specifically that of a king or a queen.
And this is fitting because Fillico bottles
are topped with gold crowns associated
with royalty. This bottled water is
produced in Osaka in Japan.
4. Bling H2O – $40 per 750 ml

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The only surprise about this bottled
water is that it is not priced higher
than its suggested retail price of $40.
After all, it is named Bling that brings
to mind huge jewelry often worn to
show off to other people. The bottle is
made out of Swarovski crystals. It is
also corked like a bottle of champagne.
There is no word, however, if it also
has the fizz and pop of a freshly opened
bottle of champagne. Imagine a day
when people would be toasting each
other with a glass of Bling, or athletes
would douse each other with the
contents of Bling after winning a
sporting competition.

5. Veen – $23 per 750 ml

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The content of Veen comes from
Finland and is arguably the freshest
and purest water in the world. Whether
drinking it would satisfy your thirst
and reinvigorate you faster than
normal water or not is still uncertain.
If so, there will be no more need for
Gatorade or any of those energy thirst
quenchers.

6. 10 Thousand BC – $14 per 750 ml

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The water is sourced from a distant and
exotic location off the coast of Canada.
It is so far away that one would need to
take three days off just to get to the
location where the water is bottled. No
wonder production costs are so high.
Then again, if the source is indeed that
far from civilization, then chances are
it is untouched and totally unpolluted.
This makes the water one of the purest,
freshest and cleanest in the world.

7. AquaDeco – $12 per 750 ml

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What comes to mind when you hear the
word deco? ArtDeco buildings and
decorations are some of the things that
you would think of. Add AquaDeco to
the list, as this bottled water comes in
an extremely attractive and well-built
bottle that does justice to the ArtDeco
comparison. And this bottled water is
not all about the style only. It has also
proven its substance, or in this case, its
content. Several years ago, in 2007 to
be exact, it won the gold medal for that
year’s best non-carbonated spring
water. The water is sourced from
unspoiled and untouched springs in
Canada.

8. Lauquen Artes Mineral Water – $6
per 750 ml

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Imagine water that is so pure, so fresh
and so clean that it remains untouched
even by air until such time that it gets
harvested and bottled. That is what
Lauquen Artes Mineral Water is all
about. The water is sourced from an
aquifer with a depth of 1,500 feet. This
aquifer is located in a remote part of
the Andes mountains. You can be damn
sure that the water that touches your
lips has only gotten minimal contact,
thus ensuring its purity and
cleanliness.

9. Tasmanian Rain – $5 per 750 ml

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Australia is the continent down under.
Tasmania is the island south of this
continent, meaning it is practically at
the edge of the world. This bottled
water is sourced from this island’s
rain. Yes, it is collected straight to the
bottle from the sky without the water
even touching the ground.

10. Fine – $5 per 750 ml

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Mt. Fuji in Japan provides one of the
most beautiful sights in the world. The
water underneath it provides one of the
cleanest and purest. The source of this
bottled water is the spring located 600
meters below the mountain belt.


like seriously why would someone spend almost 9 million just to aquire a bottle of water??


Culled from:- http://www.therichest.com/expensive-lifestyle/entertainment/the-top-10-most-exotic-and-expensive-bottled-waters-in-the-world/

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The Prophet himself
married and also encouraged others to
marry. It has been reported that The
Prophet Muhammad said
‘A person who possesses the means to
marry (i.e. he is able to work etc. to
support a wife and children) and does
not marry then he is not from amongst
us (i.e. the believers).’
In another narration the Prophet
Muhammad has been reported to
have said,
‘Do not delay in three things; 1) The
offering of the obligatory prayer. 2) The
offering of the funeral prayer when the
deceased’s body is present . 3) The
marriage of a woman when her couple is
found’
So also the hadith that my brother qouted above
And the quranic verse below
‘And wed the single among you’. (Q24 :
V3
From the verse above we call all see that Allah(SWT)himself odered us to marry.......

just because some one broke your heart doesnt mean you can't find someone better

[quote author=Al-Baqir]You are only confusing yourself brother. Prophet (saws) died in the 10th year of Hijrah. If he couldn't fasted Tasu'a (9th of the first month of Arab calendar)the following year (11th year of hijrah), that also mean the incident of meeting the Jew happened in the 10th year. Funny!

The hadith where he met the Jew and asked them what they were fasting for...and they in turn told him the essence of that Ashura fasting: is the centre in which all other hadith on Ashura revolve.
Aisha and other narrators:
On the other hand, Aisha was 6years old (according to Bukhari) in the 2nd year of Hijrah when she got married to the prophet (saws). In fact her own case was described by one of the maid that she was just a small innocent girl who plays with dull and sleeps while playing while goat eat her food. What does that suggested for asserting Aisha to report narration on Ashura?
I beg you to go back and read about Abu Hurayra, Abu Musa al-Ash'ari et al.

The very hadith altogether is full of contradictory statements.

No matter how hard and long we drag this, I will stand on that unique point that if Ashura is so important and real, JEW will never be the one the holy prophet (saws) will get info from for what Ashura stand for.

Other hadith which prove one blessing or two given to different prophet on the day of Ashura from Adam to E'esa...what was the blessing received by the greatest and last prophet, Muhammad on that day?

Till next year Ashura. May Allah spare our lives.

Salam.[/quote]If you don't believe with all the proofs av givven you fine...
i shall continue the fasting till i am no longer living.....
if you can't fast i wont force you to

salam

DonColz1: what i need is 10 food that will increase the money in my account just like bill gate

olee

[quote author=Al-Baqir]Lol! Ma sha Allah.
I remember your advancement of other narrators aside Ibn Abbas (like Abu Hurayra, Abu Musa al-Ashari, Mu'awiyah et al). Hope you will defend them each had it been you've read my reply to your comment on my thread.

As we are all striving toward salvation may Allah keep our feet steadfast on the path of truth.

Salam.[/quote]I have tried my possible best to give the best i can....

Am Muqaddas Ahmad....am no newbie tho...
just introducing my self

babylolaroy: its true dear brother. The prophet the following year when he intended to observe the fast..That means he gave it approval buh was not opportuned to ever fast it

Allahu alam

Please do not mistake Ashura for Tasu'a
The prophet was not opportuned to fast tasu'a but he did fast Ashura

[quote author=Al-Baqir]Salam,
To your points:
Point1. I don't need to comment on personal theories.

2. Al-hamdulillah for once you agree Abdullah Ibn Abbas (R) was not credible to report the hadith because of his age. Then why lying against him (r)? and this has suggested you concur the "arrival" was the 1st year of Hijrah otherwise you wouldn't have submit on Ibn Abbas just like that. Telling me its for the sake of argument do not hold.

Other reporters:
Abu Musa al-Ashari came from the tribe of Ashar in Yemen. He converted to Islam before Hijra and since that day till khaybar (7th year Hijrah), he was no where to be found. The prophet sent him back to Yemen to spread Islam and he was never with the holy prophet in the 1st year of Hijra.

Abu hurayra converted to Islam 3years before the demise of the holy prophet(saws) in Sham (Syria) and was only seen in Madina after khaybar which occured in 7th year hijra. If one werent at the event then how can one narrate what happened?

Muawiyyah converted to Islam in the 8th year of hijra which was 7th yr after the mentioning of the hadith relating to Ashura.
Besides can one label Mu'awiya a reliable source? Somebody whom the holy prophet (saws) said: "“At the time of his death, Mu’awiyah shall not be counted as member of my Muslim Ummah.” (Al- Tabari, Muhammad ibn Jarir. Ta'rikh Al-Rusul Wa'l-
Muluk(Vol. 8, Pg. 186; Imam Nasai was killed in Sham because of a single hadith he narrated on Mu'awiyah where Rasul cursed him))

NB: Please how can you say ALL the sahaba of the prophet (saws) are righteous?

ON SAHABA!
Shi'a stand on general sahaba is that: Not ALL of them were righteous. Qur'an exposed some of Munafiq among them to the point that some were unknown to the prophet; Allah said only Him know them (sura Tawbah vs 101).
Qur'an, hadith and History even reveal those who apostatized among them after the death of the prophet.
And truly there were many righteous steadfast role-model personalities among them.

Let me give you a peep:

Ala b. Al-Musayyab narrated from his father, who said: "I met al-Bara'a ibn Azib and said to him: "You are fortunate, you were a companion of the prophet and paid allegiance to him under the tree". Whereupon he said: "'My nephew, you do not know what we INNOVATED after him" (al-Bukhari vol. 5 p. 66)

Allah knew many of them will violate their oath; hence he warned:
"Those who paid allegiance to you in fact pay allegiance to Allah. The hand of Allah is over their hands. And WHOEVER VIOLATES that oath has done so against his own(self)~Q48:10"

Also prophet fore-told:
"On the day of resurrection you will be grabbed from the left, and I will say: 'where are they (being taken) to?' It will be said: "To Hell, by God. ' I will say: "my Lord! These are my companions'. It will be said: 'You do not know what they did after you. From the time you left them they never ceased to apostatize. ' I will say: 'Away with him, away with him, woe to him who changed things after me. And I do not see anyone of them being saved except that he will be like a forlorn sheep".
(Sahih al-Bukhari vol. 7 p. 209, vol 4 p. 94, 156; Muslim vol. 7 p. 66).

To your last theories:

Brother, ain't gonna take those theories dogmatically. Prove with concrete evidence inkuntum sadiqin.

Salam.[/quote]it is not only the companions
listed by you or me who narrated
the Hadeeths about the fasting of
Ashuraa. The Prophet’s order to fast
Ashuraa is reported by many
companions, such as Aishah (Bukhari
and Muslim), and Abdullah ibn Masud
(Bukhari and Muslim), both reporting
that this day was fasted before
Ramadhan was ordained (in the 2nd
year of Hijrah). Aishah was not only a
Muslim at birth but the Prophet’s wife
soon after he migrated to Madinah,
three years after conducting the
marriage contract with her in Makkah.
Ar-Rubayyi Bint Muwawwidh (Bukhari
and Muslim), and she is from the
Ansar, and Abdullah ibn Umar
(Bukhari), one of the earliest Makkan
Muslims, also reported that the
Prophet of Allah, salla-llahu alaihi wa-
sallam, fasted Ashuraa and ordered its
fast. Ibn Umar was among the early
Muslims in Makkah and migrated to
Madinah early on. Ar-Rubayyi became
Muslim early on in the Madinah era.
The same is said about Salamah ibn Al-
Akwa who also reported the fast of
Ashura (Bukhari and Muslim). Aishah
(Bukhari and Muslim) reported that
Ashura was also fasted by the pagans
of Quraish and that the Prophet, salla-
llahu alaihi wa-sallam, used to fast it
too; when he came to Madinah he
fasted it and ordered that it is fasted
until Ramadhan was ordained then the
fast of Ashuraa became optional. The
same report is found in Sunan Abi
Dawud from Abdullah ibn Umar.

Abu Musa al-Ashaari became
Muslim early on, and attended the
battle of Khaibar after having made
Hijrah to Ethiopia. Abu Hurairah
became Muslim just before the battle
of Khaibar and attended it also.
Therefore, both of these honorable
companions were present during the
battle of Khaibar

If what the
you claims is true, that these
Hadeeths were fabricated by the said
companions, then why no other
companion who was present then
protested their mistake?

The mentioned
companions were indeed truthful in
what they narrated, and what they
narrated is either direct, i.e., they
witnessed it (as we will soon discover),
or it was conveyed to them by other
companions. In a narration collected
by Imam ash-Shafii from Muawiyah
ibn Abi Sufyan, Muawiyah states that
he heard the Prophet of Allah, salla-
llahu alaihi wa-sallam, say that fasting
of Ashuraa is optional. Muawiyah lived
in Makkah until he became Muslim,
and Quraish used to fast Ashuraa in
Makkah. Indeed, Muawiyah heard the
Prophet of Allah, salla-llahu alaihi wa-
sallam, recommend fasting Ashuraa
with his own ears, i.e., after Hijrah,
i.e., the Prophet repeated his
recommendation more than at one
occasion.

you think that just because the mentioned
companions were not with the
Prophet, salla-llahu alaihi wa-sallam,
upon Hijrah or not even Muslim upon
Hijrah, they could not have possibly
gained knowledge of what happened
before them or heard the successive
recommendations given by the
Prophet, salla-llahu alaihi wa-sallam,
to fast Ashuraa. May be you think that
they should not have asked about what
happened before them or narrated
what they heard afterwards.

Allahu a'alam

Salamalaikum

[quote author=Al-qaim]@xclusive, very funny! Talk about how sunnatic you are bro. None of you can't even faithfully answer any Al-baqir's questions. And its "your sunnah" to delete those jaw-breaking questions; his comments and replies. Lol. You can't even defend what u believed in. I call that dry-faith!

See your Bros.@Sheykul Islam:
He ran away on this thread:
www.nairaland.com/1458713/blatant-liar
And here is he saying somebody doesn't know d definition of 'sahih hadith'. He even 'abused' a brother to go madrasa. Now I can see who need madrasa past. Lol.
Perhaps definition of 'sahih' are those hadith according to 'sheykul islam' are those found here:
www.nairaland.com/1501204/how-true-narrations-sahih-bukhari

May God open your eyes. Ignorance and staunch stubborness are not Islamic.[/quote]Stay there blabbing at least i have replied him @ his thread with the best i can...This thread is not meant for aguiment....

usermane: Cool down,cool down. Relax,control yourself. You don't need to ask me Jamb questions. Ok, it was sahih muslim, ibn Abbass made that report in book 6 Fasting, hadith no. 2528.
I think i missed something though. To be correct it seem he did fast on only one ashura day, he then changed ashura to 9th muharram as from the next year instead of 10th but died before the next year. Then why after this are sunnis still marking ashura on tenth if the prophet changed it to 9th before he died?

All the hadiths i cited, i gave references. Get the pdf version of Sahih Muslim and Bukhari. These hadiths you can find by typing "ashoura " in the search or find box because their numberings are inconsistent sometimes.

Please get this right... The Prophet has been fasting ashoura since before he migrated to Medina.... And he did not change the date of ashura... He only told us to and wanted to fast tasu'a which is on the 9th of muharram but Allah did not spear his life to fast tasu'a..

[quote author=Al-qaim]Dear brother pls don't start the use of 'words'. Let's discuss intellectually! Here's your very 'copy-past' hadith:

"Hazrat Ibn Abbas (Radiyallahu 'anh) reports
that the Holy Prophet (Sallallahu ‘alayhi
wa Sallam) arrived in Madinah and found
the Jews observing fast on the day of
‘Ashura… They said: "It is the day of great
(significance) when Allah delivered Hazrat
Musa ...."
[Sahih Bukhari and Muslim]

1. What does that hadith meant by "arrived Madina"?
2. If its the first year of Hijrah, then how old was Ibn Abbas to witnessed what has happened?
3. Then how come the prophet died the following year (presumably 2nd year of Hijrah when he actually died 10th year)?

4. If its 9th year perhaps "arrived" after an outing, then the heat is more now:

A. Why long wait till 9th year of Hijra before discovering Jewish fasting on the day of Ashura? 1st, 2nd, 3rd...till 8th year of Hijrah. You mean he didn't see them?

B. Which jewish tribe was left in Madina on the 9th year of Hijrah when all of them had either accepted Islam or exiled as far back as the battle of khaybar in the 7th year of Hijra?

5. There are many places in the holy Qur'an where
Allah talks about Musa and Fir'aun. In fact Musa's
story is the most in the entire Qur'an. So has Allah
left "an important day of fasting of Ashura" in the
life-story of Musa without informing His last prophet
until certain JEW told him? Doesn't make any sense
either.
Either the "fast of Ashura" would have been told in
the Qur'an or privately through inspiration to the
prophet by Jubril from his Lord is accepted by
Qur'an and reasoning. Never thru JEW.

Now you wanna talk about ignorance!

Your point B is even worse than point A. Where's your prove that the "Arab Jew" at the time of the prophet (saws) used to calculate their calendar based on SOLAR (sun)? OMG! Very funny dude!

Your point C that he (saws) been fasting in Mecca and that of Madina when he found the jew was only confirmation showed you didn't even digest your hadith. Had it been you did you would have found that these ffg words showed he (saws) did not even have a clue of what 'Ashura day' meant:

"...They said: "It is the day of great
(significance) when Allah delivered Hazrat
Musa ....

Points D, E are guess work. Better luck next try.

Salam.[/quote]1– You shites think that this means
that as soon as he arrived at Madinah, he,
peace be upon him, found them then fasting
Ashuraa, like the next day or the next week.
This is a strange claim, because the Hadeeths
do not say that at all, but only say that AFTER
Hijrah, which is the context of ‘Lamma
Qadima’, the Prophet found the Jews fasting
this day, i.e., when the next Muharram came
not that he, peace be upon him, made Hijrah
during Muharram or that the first week he was
in Madinah, the Jews were fasting the tenth of
Muharram on the tenth of Rabi Awwal. When
the Jews fasted Ashuraa in the next Muharram,
the Prophet salla-llahu alaihi wa-sallam, who
used to fast it in Makkah, was told that the
Jews fasted it because it is the day when Allah
saved Musa and his people from Pharaoh and
his people. This is when he, peace be upon
him, ordered Muslims to fast it, whereas
before that it was optional, saying that he has
more right to observe it than the Jews. After
Ramadhan was ordained in the second year of
Hijrah, the fasting of Ashura became optional.

2-ibn Abbas was 4 years old.. Let's consider he is not
exactly the most reliable resource. Ibn Abas, Abu Hurraira, Abu Musa al
ashari and Muawiya are the narrators who
claim that the prophet recommended the fast
of Ashura. … Thus, can you label Muawiya as
being a reliable source?” Indeed, all of the
Prophet’s companions are truthful,
trustworthy, and far more intelligent and pious
than those who question their character.
5- Fasting on 'Ashura' was a gradual step in the
process of introducing fasting as a prescribed
obligation in Islam. Fasting appeared in three
forms. When the Messenger of Allah ( peace and
blessings of Allah be upon him) came to
Madinah, he told the Muslims to fast on three
days of every month and on the day of
'Ashura' , then Allah made fasting obligatory
when He said (interpretation of the meaning): "
… observing the fasting is prescribed for
you … " [ Al-Qur'an 2:183] [Ahkam al-Qur'an
by al-Jassas, part 1]
The obligation was transferred from the fast of
'Ashura' to the fast of Ramadhan , and this one
of the proofs in the field of Usul al-Fiqh that it
is possible to abrogate a lighter duty in favour
of a heavier duty.
Before the obligation of fasting 'Ashura' was
abrogated, fasting on this day was obligatory,
as can be seen from the clear command to
observe this fast. Then it was further
confirmed later on, then reaffirmed by making
it a general command addressed to everybody,
and once again by instructing mothers not to
breastfeed their infants during this fast. It was
reported from Ibn Mas'ud that when fasting
Ramadhan was made obligatory, the obligation
to fast 'Ashura' was lifted, i.e., it was no longer
obligatory to fast on this day, but it is still
desirable (mustahabb).

Soon reply the other numbers

usermane: Like i said earlier on Hadiths books are full of contradictory accounts. I have quoted 4 hadiths earlier on that question the fasting of ashura day. But that from my experience is sadly not enough to make ahlul sunnah probe the truth about the fasting or hadiths books in general. So in a bid to uncover the truth or perhaps learn the truth i will continue my analysis.

Sahih muslim, book of fasting.
Says that Ashura is one of the days of Allah. I don't know if this is true, for it is said that it was the prophet 's personal decision to fast on that day.

Sahih muslim, book of fasting
According to this hadith,even the christians marked the ashura day. Here,the prophet also intended to fast on the 9th of muharram the next year. If that is the case, then why do muslims mark ashura fast on 10th. This hadith inform us that the prophet did not get the chance to ever any fast on ashura day because he died shortly after intending to commence it. On the contrary, there are many hadiths that tell us the prophet did observe the ashura fast long before Ramadan was prescribed for muslims. These are more contradictions.

Peace

Brother please go seek for knowledge..... You are talking out of ignorance..... Why told you the Prophet did not fast Ashura?

[quote author=Al-Baqir]A brother posted several hadith that the holy prophet (saws) entered Madina and saw Jews fasting on the day(10th) of Ashura. Upon asking the jew why they fast, they replied him (saws) because God rescued Moses on that day: whereupon he said: Musa is dearer to me than you do" Then he (saws) also fasted and asked all his companions to do so. He however promised to fast on the 9th and 10th of the following year of the same month to distinguish Muslim from the Jew who only fasted on the 10th. But the prophet died the following year.

www.nairaland.com/1511261/ashura-important-day-all-muslims

So this friend enjoyed all muslims to fast.

MY COMMENT (QUE) TO THE POST:

Salam alaykum dear brother/sister,

According to the hadith you posted, the holy prophet(saws) entered madina and saw the jews fasting...then he promised to fast 9th and 10th the following year as against the 10th he fasted that present year he saw the Jew, but died.

Can you explain what the hadith meant by
"...arrived in Madinah and found the Jews observing fast on the day of ‘Ashura…"?

It is well known that he arrived Madina in the 1st year of Hijra. If this is true, then the hadith is concocted to say he (saws) died the following year.
The holy prophet (saws) died in the 10th year of Hijra.

2ndly, if the hadith meant 9th year perhaps
probably after returning from an expenditure, then I'd like to ask you dear brother what took the holy prophet so long till 9th year he was in Madina before knowing the Jew used to fast on the day of Ashura?

And I'd like to also ask which jewish clan/tribe remained in Madina in the 9th year of Hijrah to tell our blessed prophet it was the day God saved Musa from Fir'aun?

For your information, the only Jewish tribe left was conquered as far back as 7th year of Hijra at the conquest of Khaybar!

3rdly, if truly the fasting on the day of Hijrah is so important for the holy prophet (saws) and his ummah, then it is only reasonable his Lord commanded him rather than a jew telling him."Nor does he speaks of his own accord. It is an inspiration revealed to him..."~Sura Najm.

"It is He who has sent the prophet with the guidance and the religion of truth to be PREVAIL OVER ALL DEEN..." ~sura saff.

NB: I deliberately used the arabic word "deen" which is far beyond 'religion'. It encomprises all aspect of life, practices and spiritual rites.

So how will the holy prophet sent with a perfect religion and guidance followed the practice of the Jew claimed to be Nabi Musa's practice?

Besides, The month in which God delivered the Israelite from pharaoh was Abib (coincided with Rajab)- Deut.16 v 1.) So how could the Jew transfer an event of Abib (Rajab) to Tishri I (muharram) in open defiance of their Torah?

I look forward to your responses before I proceed further on the topic.

Thanks a lot for your time.

Salam.[/quote]a. The hadeeth does not state that the Prophet
he found them fasting the same period he
entered Madina. However, when someone
speaks without knowledge he would surely
make stupied conclusion. This is known
method in Arabic language that the writer does
not even have a clue about it. The hadeeth
likes to say: when the Prophet entered the
Madina, he found jews fasting ashoura (i.e. he
arrived and when ashoura came they were
fasting it...).

b. Jews used to calculate Ahsoura based on
solar calander not luner so the day is not the
same every year and hence the day could be in
any month. This is known.

c. The Prophet fasted the day while he was at
Mecca anyhow and what happened in Madina
is a confirmation. This is known in the Sahih
from Ibn Umar and Aisha.

d. The companions who narrated it could be
from the Mursal of companions who narrate
from other companion a known hadeeth to
everyone.

e. There is no one who opposed them when
they narrated these narrations which mean
they are all correct.


May Allah guide us all as we do live an era of
ignorants.

[b]Innovations Common on 'Ashura'

Shaykh ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah ( may
Allah have
mercy on him) was asked about the
things that
people deople do on 'Ashura' , such as
wearing
kohl , taking a bath ( ghusl), wearing
henna,
shaking hands with one another, cooking
grains
(hubub ), showing happiness and so on.
Was
any of this reported from the Prophet
(peace
and blessings of Allah be upon him) in a
sahih
hadith , or not? If nothing to that effect
was
reported in a sahih hadith , is doing these
things bid'ah , or not? Is there any basis
for
what the other group do, such as grieving
and
mourning, going without anything to
drink,
eulogizing and wailing, reciting in a crazy
manner, and rending their garments?
rments?
His reply was: "Praise be to Allah, the
Lord of
the Worlds. Nothing to that effect has
been
reported in any sahih hadith from the
Prophet
(peace and blessings of Allah be upon
him) or
from his Companions. None of the Imams
of
the Muslims encouraged or recommended
such
things, neither the four Imams, nor any
others.
No reliable scholars have narrated
anything
like this, neither from the Prophet
( peace and
blessings of Allah be upon him), nor from
the
Sahabah , nor from the Tabi'in; neither in
any
sahih report or in a da'if (weak) report;
neither
in the books of Sahih, nor in as-Sunan ,
nor in
the Musnads. No hadith of this nature
was
known during the best centuries, but
some of
the later narrators reported ahadith like
the
one which says, 'Whoever puts kohl in
his eyes
on the day of 'Ashura' will not suffer
from eye
disease in that year, and whoever takes a
bath
(does ghusl) on the day of 'Ashura' will
not get
sick in that year,' and so on. They also
reported a fabricated hadith that is
falsely
attributed to the Prophet ( peace and
blessings
of Allah be upon him), which says,
'Whoever is
generous to his family on the day of
'Ashura' ,
Allah will be generous to him for the rest
of
the year.' Reporting all of this from the
Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be
upon
him) is tantamount to lying."
Then he [Ibn Taymiyyah ( may Allah have
mercy
on him) ] discussed in brief the
tribulations that
had occurred in the early days of this
Ummah
and the killing of al-Husayn ( may Allah
be
pleased with him), and what the various
sects
had done because of this. Then he said:
"An ignorant, wrongful group – who were
either heretics and hypocrites, or
misguided and misled – made a show of
allegiance to him and the members of his
household, so they took the day of
'Ashura' as a day of mourning and
wailing, in which they openly displayed
the rituals of jahiliyyah such as slapping
their cheeks and rending their garments,
grieving in the manner of the
jahiliyyah ...…
"The Shaytan made this attractive to
those who are misled, so they took the
day of 'Ashura' as an occasion of
mourning, when they grieve and wail,
recite poems of grief and tell stories
filled with lies. Whatever truth there may
be in these stories serves no purpose
other than the renewal of their grief and
sectarian feeling, and the stirring up of
hatred and hostility among the Muslims,
which they do by cursing those who
came
before them …
"The evil and harm that they do to the
Muslims cannot be enumerated by any
man, no matter how eloquent he is. Some
others – either Nasibis who oppose and
have enmity towards al-Husayn and his
family or ignorant people who try to
fight evil with evil, corruption with
corruption, lies with lies and bid'ah with
bid'ah – opposed them by fabricating
reports in favour of making the day of
'Ashura' a day of celebration, by wearing
kohl and henna , spending money on
one's
children, cooking special dishes and
other things that are done on 'Eid and
special occasions. These people took the
day of 'Ashura' as a festival like 'Eid ,
whereas the others took it as a day of
mourning. Both are wrong, and both go
against the Sunnah , even though the
other group (those who take it as a day
of
mourning) are worse in intention and
more ignorant and more plainly wrong …
"Neither the Prophet ( peace and
blessings
of Allah be upon him) nor his successors
(the khulafa' ar-rashidun ) did any of
these
things on the day of 'Ashura', they
neither made it a day of mourning nor a
day of celebration …
"As for the other things, such as cooking
special dishes with or without grains, or
wearing new clothes, or spending money
on one's family, or buying the year's
supplies on that day, or doing special
acts of worship such as special prayers or
deliberately slaughtering an animal on
that day, or saving some of the meat of
the sacrifice to cook with grains, or
wearing kohl and henna, or taking a bath
(ghusl), or shaking hands with one
another, or visiting one another, or
visiting the mosques and shrines and so
on … all of this is reprehensible bid'ah
and is wrong. None of it has anything to
do with the Sunnah of the Messenger of
Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be
upon him) or the way of the Khulafa' ar-
Rashidun. It was not approved of by any
of the Imams of the Muslims, not Malik,
not ath-Thawri, not al-Layth ibn Sa'ad,
not Abu Hanifah, not al-Awza'i, not al-
Shafi'i, not Ahmad ibn Hanbal, not Ishaq
ibn Rahwayh, not any of the Imams and
scholars of the Muslims." [Al-Fatawa al-
Kubra by Ibn Taymiyyah]
Ibn al-Hajj (may Allah have mercy on
him)
mentioned that one of the bid'ah on
'Ashura'
was deliberately paying zakat on this day,
late
or early, or slaughtering a chicken just
for this
occasion, or – in the case of women –
using
henna . [ Al-Madkhal , part 1, Yawm
'Ashura' ][/b]

a. The hadeeth does not state that the Prophet
he found them fasting the same period he
entered Madina. However, when someone
speaks without knowledge he would surely
make stupied conclusion. This is known
method in Arabic language that the writer does
not even have a clue about it. The hadeeth
likes to say: when the Prophet entered the
Madina, he found jews fasting ashoura (i.e. he
arrived and when ashoura came they were
fasting it...).

b. Jews used to calculate Ahsoura based on
solar calander not luner so the day is not the
same every year and hence the day could be in
any month. This is known.

c. The Prophet fasted the day while he was at
Mecca anyhow and what happened in Madina
is a confirmation. This is known in the Sahih
from Ibn Umar and Aisha. reason for fasting Ashuraa was
twofold. Before Hijrah, it was a day when the
Ka`bah was dressed and was fasted by Quraish
(Bukhari and Muslim). After the Hijrah,
Muslims found that it was also a day the Jews
of Madinah fasted and the Prophet fasted it
too. Thus, it became among the Islamic acts of
worship regardless of what the Jews did or did
not do.

d. The companions who narrated it could be
from the Mursal of companions who narrate
from other companion a known hadeeth to
everyone.

e. There is no one who opposed them when
they narrated these narrations which mean
they are all correct.


May Allah guide us all as we do live an era of
ignorants.

...

LagosShia: shut up!

leave the rhetoric and get to the information/evidence/facts.

even your extremist ibn taymiyyah would be ashamed of you in this age and time to repeat old fashioned lies against the Shia.

FASTING ON THE 10TH DAY OF MUHARRAM KNOWN AS THE DAY OF ASHURA IS BID'AH (A FORBIDDEN INNOVATION) IN ISLAM THAT THE PROPHET (s) NEVER ORDER FOR.TOO MANY THREADS ALREADY ON THAT TOPIC. YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO LIVE AN HISTORICAL LIE TO CONCEAL THE TRUTH ABOUT THE TRAGEDY OF KARBALA.YOU ARE FREE TO DO THAT BUT OTHERS WILL NOT.

lolz....you dey vex..i wan reply you but i think its just a waist of my bundle nd time.....

ma watch finish fess....