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Foreign Affairs › Re: Gadhafi's Family To Sue Nato ? by xcolanto(m): 11:24am On Oct 30, 2011

Oletunow:
The invasion of Liyba by NATO is 100% legal and it will be upheld in the Hages. The UN Security Council voted to authorize the invasion. Gadaffi and his sons were indicted in The Hages and Interpol was given the authority to arrest them.

Agreed, he would not have been killed after he was captured alive. But there is no evidence that it was NATO or their mercenaries that captured him or killed him.

The purpose of the lawsuite in the Hages by his family is just to get publicity, it does not have substance.

You definitely do not have a first hand knowledge about what really took place in Liyba, what made you think that your sources are more reliable than CNN or the western media that had journalist in Liyba who spoke with people ther?

Yes, the guy must have been good to some section of his people, all dictators in history do not hate everyone, else they would not hold to power for too long, they need protection hence they have to be good to some. Alot of Liybans died during this fight against Gadaffi and many rejoiced in the street when they heard he has been captured/killed. These are real Liyba people and not mercenaries, he were that good to them, they would not have easily turn their back on him.

The invasion of Libya was backed by U.N and other western countries (Vato powers) based mainly on their interests (what they could get that they never had control over e.g oil and Libyan enormous funds etc). Did you know Libya has one of the largest oil reserve as an oil producing state and an independent banking system in which they neither owed or borrowed from western sapping institutions like the IMF and World bank who lend you money and dictate policies that favor them when you cant pay up?? you also should be familiar with the number one western policy (interest), that is why these western powers have continued to play a blind eye towards a lot of ongoing conflicts around the globe (precisely the African continent before the Arab spring came up) worse than the acclaimed situation in Libya. Look at Syria, Yemen and Bahrain. You may guess why?? ANSWER= those countries have nothing to offer "economically and financially" to the west. You may also want to ask why the west invested billions of pounds and dollars in supplying arms, bombs and mercenaries to overthrow the legitimate government of Libya while their economies needed the money the most to get back on track.lol! Too many unanswered questions wink

You also should be aware that Libya had a lot of dealings with Russia and China rather than the U.S and France, both in oil and arms which was a direct treat to the supremacy of the U.S as the number one world power currently facing economic hardship and is being threatened to be overtaken by China in few years to come. The current economic hardship is also within the boarders of the E.U (Greece et al) hence the need to control more resources by the west from their number one source The African Continent is vital to their survival and maintaining their status in the globe. tongue

Now it seems your not familiar with the adage i used when i said " those who the gods want to disgrace, they first make him mad". When the west is against you everything that belongs to them and things they control would automatically be against u. The CNN and co u mentioned are sure tools of the west as they are owned by them, hence off course its only natural that these news agencies spread lies and propaganda to suit their masters that foot their bills. grin

or dont you think so?? cheesy

No doubt, i agree with you that he was not loved by all (who is loved by all any ways) huh

what is important here is the higher percentage (true libyan citizens) as against the minority (Benghazi rebels) who supported their leader up to the point of dying for him despite being bombed from above for months! and you say they easily turned their back on him?? a war for 8 Months is not easy man, holding out against over 40 countries from invasion is not as u see from your T.V on Cnn et al, there is more to what you are being shown man! how come NATO never showed the targets they bombed the most (Civilians)??. Indeed i was and still am astonished at how the brave true Libyans held out for that long, so where the Nato murdering comrades as they expressed the braveness of the people of sirte in holding back despite being bombarded from 3-4 angles daily shocked

what greater love do you need his people to show for him again?? off course you do not expect Cnn to tell you that did u?? lipsrsealed

. i`ll suggest if you wish to be more enlightened on what went on in Libya you Google, read and follow up news from multiple sources e.g RT, (al jazeera sold out to their Arab masters off course and stopped reporting the truth lipsrsealed

) you tube uploads from independent and neutral people in Libya giving information opposite to what your favorites (CNN et al) tell you and not hold on to biased, unbalanced and cheap reporting to suit the western invasion of Libya. wow! now back to the topic, i still hold my view as expressed on my first post on this thread. cool

Foreign Affairs › Re: Gadhafi's Family To Sue Nato ? by xcolanto(m): 11:32am On Oct 29, 2011

justwise:
Now i know where u get all your news from and i have being wasting my time replying to you? That dirty old man shouldn't be taken seriously and i wasted my time reading scripts he wrote for you. Done with you.

hahaha sorry bro do not know the Cap28 guy personally, so cant speak on his age or hygiene lipsrsealed

. what i have done is made reference to a source that corresponded with you being sarcastic about the west not being able to instigate the Arab spring and many other wrong doings in the African continent in general. HELLO! Are u for real?? The west aka Obama et al has been known for committing the latest genocide in the history of the earth starting from Iraq, Afghanistan and presently Libya. its a shame how Africans can come out and defend the invasion and killings of Libyans and other Africans including my beloved country people Nigerians by Nato all in the name of one man being a dictator where we have loads of them around the globe, my people shine una eyes ooo!! a new form of colonialism is in place, a one with force instilled by fear panic and insecurity, hence the latest invasion by the west, lmaooo i dey laugh ooo!!!

Foreign Affairs › Re: Gadhafi's Family To Sue Nato ? by xcolanto(m): 11:12am On Oct 29, 2011

justwise:
Yes the West started the Arab spring, they asked the Tunisians poor trader to set himself on fire then moved on to Egypt, when they are done with Egypt, they moved on to Libya, right?

The West has also start another war in Yemen and Syria, if all these are true then the West should be respected, they were able to convinced 5 Arab countries to topple their govts and these countries listened to the West and not their own govt. Brilliant!!!!

Clearly u have little knowledge about the case of Libya and the policies of the west towards Africa on broad level!!, lol just a hint "Nothing good" Go and read up how "Europe underdeveloped Africa" and come back and tell me the west is not capable of plotting or kick starting the arab spring but not necessarily telling people to set themselves on fire undecided

if u had been following the case of libya here on NL you would have come across a video posted by cap28 if am not mistaken on how the west planned on conquering 5 or 6 countries in 5 years cool

just in case u need to see that for yourself, check up cap28 profile and hey! Google is your friend grin

Foreign Affairs › Re: Gadhafi's Family To Sue Nato ? by xcolanto(m): 11:03am On Oct 29, 2011

jidegirl12:
what is not to understant that awwww they killed a very good man that was loved by his people and these same people killed him with the help of NATO by bombing Gadaffi`s convoy buuhaaaa what a shame

If you have a family member or a loved one in Libya and got killed (without is body accounted for) then you ll get the grip, I m done with this Gadaffi the Good man bull, cr ap!

by the way where did you get this information from?:

a higher percentage of Libyan citizens loved and adored Gadhafi for various reasons, one being the fact that Libya was one of the last countries and him Gadhafi rulers to be controlled by western powers and their money sapping bodies, that's why Nato had to import a lot of mercenaries to do most of the fighting)

I laugh in french(better to laugh)

where have i called Ghadafi a good man here?? do not try to misquote or put words where i have not used them. As far as i am concerned no one is a saint on this planet earth! if we are all judged according to all what we have done, believe me they would be no one left, hence who makes man a judge over man?? (U.S Obama over Libya`s Gadhafi). point still remains he was not meant to be assassinated but allowed to face justice on a neutral and unbiased ground. Yo the point of the Nato mercenaries, it is no secret that non Libyans mostly Arabs fought in the war against Gadhafi, each sect with its own different reasons and interest backed up by the arms supply of the western powers e.g france et al . Do not be deceived most of the African countries justwise posted that fought for Gadhafi were migrants workers who were fighting for their lives, families and properties against the racist NTC government and its mostly imported rebels who were carrying out ethnic cleansing and raping of anything black angry

. Get a grip guys!! Gadhafi ent the devil, we have worse people in the world today even on NL, lol cool

Foreign Affairs › Re: Gadhafi's Family To Sue Nato ? by xcolanto(m): 10:39am On Oct 29, 2011

justwise:
You can not discus the topic without mentioning dictatorship because that is what Gaddafi was, the idea that higher percentage of Libyans are happy with Gaddafi is grossly misleading, its even more misleading to suggest that NATO imported mercenaries to fight Gaddafi, do yourself a favor and read up about who used mercenaries from Niger, Chad and Mali to kill Libyans, its no secret.

If higher percentage of Libyans are happy with Gaddafi why then did they start the protest that led to this? The West started it?

Gadhafi might have been a dictator no doubt! however i state again dictator or not! no one deserves to be humiliated the way Gadhafi was if not there is no justice. what ever happened to court order of the icc to trial Gadhafi on baseless allegations without evidence?? why was he not handed alive so he can be made to pay for all the "atrocities" you claim he committed?? why was a video shown of him alive and later a video shown of him dead saying he died from bullet wounds?? i think you need to do more independent research on the war in Libya and stop being spoon feed by western medias such as CNN and co who spread propaganda just to get the support of the "world" into justifying the invasion of Libya! they is a saying that "who the gods want to disgrace they first make him mad" you may want to ask yourself why Nato and its allies invade Libya in the first place? the truth behind that question if at all u do know the answer would bring knowledge and light into why Gadhafi was assassinated "by his own people" aka NATO mercenaries grin

Foreign Affairs › Re: Gadhafi's Family To Sue Nato ? by xcolanto(m): 10:07am On Oct 29, 2011

justwise:
Your reply was in support of a dictator and his family and mine was against him, yes it matters how they died, i want them to die a painful death, infact i don't like the way Gaddafi died, it was too quick, he should have been allowed to die slowly.

You have a very right to support whoever you want.

Seems you did not understand my last post. Like i said the topic is not about dictatorship over democracy or whatever system of government or rule of law there is. Cant be bothered what system a country adopts as long as it works for them and they are happy( in the case of Libya, a higher percentage of Libyan citizens loved and adored Gadhafi for various reasons, one being the fact that Libya was one of the last countries and him Gadhafi rulers to be controlled by western powers and their money sapping bodies, that's why Nato had to import a lot of mercenaries to do most of the fighting). Now back to the topic, i think the family of Gadhafi have a case for the reason i stated in my first response to this thread. Death is Death bro!! no matter what form it comes in and am sure no one including you would not want to die the way u wished Gadhafi dead right?

Foreign Affairs › Re: Gadhafi's Family To Sue Nato ? by xcolanto(m): 9:41am On Oct 29, 2011

^^^^
what ever rocks your boat man!

Am not here in defense and support for dictatorship. All i did was contribute my two cents on the topic at hand. i`ll advice you stick to the topic and not go all monkey about where dictators go after they are bombed, shot in the head and dragged on the street. grin

Foreign Affairs › Re: Gadhafi's Family To Sue Nato ? by xcolanto(m): 9:30am On Oct 29, 2011

justwise:
Each time i read from ''informed'' Gaddafi apologist like you i smile because i know he will never ever terrorist them anymore and his family will never ever treat Libya as their own bank account anymore.
So i enjoy seeing some of you ranting on and on and on. . . .

Smile and laugh all u want, that does not change my point of view neither does it change the truth! (NATO AND ITS ALLIES ARE MURDERS) how about u laugh at that wink

Foreign Affairs › Re: Gadhafi's Family To Sue Nato ? by xcolanto(m): 9:20am On Oct 29, 2011

SUE their A**!!! Bunch of retarded Morons, No human deserves to be humiliated the way Gadhafi was. After all we have worse people than him here on NL and all over the world, how about bombing, shooting them in the head and dragging their corpse on the street for a change undecided

. For the uniformed and the ignorant grin

it was reported that Nato aka "Bombing cartel" or its Allie the U.S aka "Judge of the world" bombed Gadhafi`s convey (and claimed responsibility for it mostly France) when he attempted to flee whilst preserving his life from foreign invaders. Sensible and reasonable people would agree with me that such direct attack on the person of Gadhafi and his family (remember Nato had claimed earlier during the invasion that they had hit a building in which they believed Gadhafi and his family were in, leading to the rumored death of one of this son and missing him surprisingly cool

) was not the U.N mandate for Nato to have a no fly zone over Libya (they were there to ~~kill~~ protect civilians and not bomb them cry

). It was claimed he died from serious injuries (which came as a result of bombing his convoy which was highly armored tongue

that made him come out alive but seriously wounded ) , hence there seem to be some validity and authenticity in the claims of the family of the ex-Libyan leader lipsrsealed

Foreign Affairs › Re: Condolence Register For Ghadaffi : by xcolanto(m): 10:14pm On Oct 24, 2011

It is only great men that are assassinated (the likes of JFK, Martin Luther King etc) R.I.P to Ghadaffi who refused to sell his country out to western powers and fought till his death as he promised in the cause of defending his people against western draining (Brain drain), exploitation (oil) and unproductive economic policies (privatization of Government facilities, industries and importation of western made products while degrading the locally existent manufactures) through institutions like the world bank and the IMF. A man of so much authority that never exalted himself over the rank of a colonel (unlike many other African leaders that all answer Generals for the love and greed of power mostly nja grin

) and identified himself as a brother leader which made his people see him as a brother and a father figure mostly expressed by kissing his hand when in close contact with him. This is a man that rode freely on the streets of Libya over the roof of a car and had cheers and support in almost every street he passed by (its on youtube). This shows that the man was loved by a higher percentage (his people) than he was disliked by a lower percentage (bengazi al-quada rebels). It is important to stress that most of the so called "NTC" Rebel fighter were imported from other Arab, french and European countries and all fought for their respective interests, hence the face-off with other rebel fractions mostly read off on the news. Indeed Africa has lost one of the last strong visioned leader and history would forever know his name! Muammar bin Mohammad bin Abdussalam bi Humayd bin Abu Manyar bin Humayd bin Nayil al Fuhsi Gaddafi cool

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For me its the 3 series, just find the car too damn sexy wink

Crime › Re: Libyan Rebels Describe How They Torture, ra.pe And Kill Their Victims by xcolanto(m): 9:59am On Oct 17, 2011

My heart goes out to all the africans that died in the cause of defending their homeland and lives from the wrath of Nato and the western imperialist cry

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Politics › Re: Boko Haram To N'Delta Militants: Bastards Let’s Roll Some Heads by xcolanto(m): 2:05am On Oct 17, 2011

Do I sense a north and south division rising along religious lines with the aid of these sects that "claim" to be fighting for a better Nigeria?? huh

Politics › Re: Army Chief Confirms Foreigners’ Involvement In Boko Haram's Bombings by xcolanto(m): 10:31am On Sep 28, 2011

@afro_blue
I went through the article u posted briefly and it comes as no suprise to me that the attack on the WTC was staged, so was the war against terror starting from osama bin ladien. In my humble opinion, this was done in other to instil fear into the lives of Americans so as to reduce the level of freedom they enjoyed and create a vaild means to control the lives of their citizens in the way that favours them. If am not mistaken, the 911 issue brought about the stop and search law as well as laws that gave way to detaining citizens for hours based on suspicious acts or reasons to believe one is linked to any form of terrorism. This is the same fallacy they are selling to the world (Africa presently) so they can intrude and have a say in the affairs of other countries based on fighting world terror. Nigeria as we are told now is being invaded and threaten by boko haram which the CIA claims have strong links with al qaida. Al-qaida that is basically U.S" made". My african people do not forget the desire to have Africom in africa by the west! And that can only be achieved through creating chaos in the region that would have the ever depending africa to call on the west for help, hence the introduction of Africom. Just my two cents

Politics › Re: Army Chief Confirms Foreigners’ Involvement In Boko Haram's Bombings by xcolanto(m): 8:34am On Sep 28, 2011

I remember me and Cap28 stating that the ideology of the boko haram and their activities have been highjacked by some foreign agencies such as the CIA et al and some ignorant NLers laughed off such possiblity. Today the chief of army staff has re-stated that same opinion we shared on this forum a while ago. Am sure we might look like prophets to some but its just common sense that many fail to apply. Although he didn't mention these organisations, we all know the countries and their agencies (U.S, U.K and Co) that have the technical and intelligence capabilities to train and equip these group in carrying out their selfish intrests. To be honest we all should know that those boys from bauchi et al do not have what it takes to pull these bombings in the police heaquaters and the U.N building to be precise. Nigeria open your eyes! The enemy is from within (the presence of this foreign bodies on Nigerian soil).

Islam › Re: "Bomb Blasts In Nigeria Ridiculing Islam" -Sheikh Ibrahim Zakzaky by xcolanto(m): 1:20pm On Sep 12, 2011

Onyocha:
[b]I dont know what on earth would make Nigerians sound so naive and think that America is not capable of inventing Boko Haram and using northerners to do her dirty job?

this is the same America that helped create Al-Qaeda and the Taliban to fight the Soviets.America can do anything if it believes that the means justifies the end.what this cleric said is not surprising when it comes to America and western intelligence.he is not saying that it is America that is carrying out the bombings like some illitrates posting have misunderstood.he is simply accusing boko haram of playing dirty in the interest of america,whether or not america is supporting them directly or indirectly.but he is clearly saying that boko haram is an idea that is playing an american agenda.

the Sheikh condemned boko haram by portraying them as "ridiculing Islam".obviously he stands against their actions.that is a sharp departure from the norm when condemning boko haram.

going back to the issue of American involvement with boko haram and the possible American dream to split up Nigeria,i have warned on this forum repeatedly that america may be up to something.a divided Nigeria without the "useless" and "illitrate north" as America would see the north as a "burden",is better for the west to control the resources in the Niger Delta.also,America needs military bases and they want to control and dominate everywhere.militar bases in nigeria would give america easy access to north/west african countries.nigeria is strategically located.another obstacle they see from the north is religion.the north as a whole will not allow america to have a free and easier access to resources as America would if the north is gone.they are using therefore this boko haram issue and religion to divide Nigeria.what sort of prophecy and evil would justify America prophesying that Nigeria would split in 2015?

recently the french president threatened Iran with so called "preemptive strikes" on its nuclear stations.Iran took France to the UN security council.did Nigeria bother to complain to the UN about the american threat that Nigeria would disintegrate?what did the government do about it? did the Nigerian foreign ministry summon the american ambassador?

below are the other threads where i warned of american involvement in this boko haram saga:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=755285.msg9113800#msg9113800

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=756268.msg9117402#msg9117402

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Indeed you have spoken well! i said and i repeat again "The western powers are behind this boko haram issue! when would Nigerians realize this?? these western powers know that Nigerians are cowards and would not stage a protest like those being seen in Egypt et al and are using these boko elements to create chaos knowing that the Nigerian government would require their help in tackling the issue hence giving them the oppournity to carry out their dubious acts and having their personal interest at heart whilst at it." Until Nigerians and Africans at large understand that the west have no good intentions for Africa, only then would they be able to see through the propaganda played by these western powers, a good example the case of Gaddafi. How are people so quick to forget the prediction of Nigeria breaking up by the same west, and some people think Nigeria would just break up on its own without the intervention of the west to achieve their predictions huh

Jokers!!

Politics › Re: Dr. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala's Alleged Pitiful Theft And Corruption Revealed-Shameful by xcolanto(m): 11:12pm On Sep 10, 2011

I am beginning to become suspicious of these wikileaks reports in regards to Nigerian politics. It seems these days Nigerian news regarding corruption is the order of the day coming from these leaks. Do not get me wrong these leaks are real but it is possible that they could be fabricated to create more division politically in the Nigerian government from bodies like the CIA and other western agents in the hopes of splitting the country. Just my two cents cool

Politics › Re: Boko Haram Plans To Bomb Defence Headquarters -report by xcolanto(m): 10:53pm On Sep 10, 2011

cap28:
Nigeria - you are well and truly under attack from the CIA - now you will begin to understand what it feels like to have your nation totally and completely hijacked the way libya was hijacked by NATO terrorists and their traitor accomplices.

anyone who still beleives that boko haram is an islamic outfit run by northern nigerians needs help - this has CIA written all over it. do you want to tell me that a nigerian terrorist outfit would dare threaten to attack the nigerian defence headquarters? remember how libya's fake uprising started? was it not military barracks and police stations that were the first to be attacked? it was only much later that the british boasted in one of their newspapers (the telegraph) that they were on ground in libya as far back as January this year fomenting all of the chaos that precipitated the ongoing turmoil in libya.

its time to wake up - nigeria is under attack from the west - this is no longer a joke.

@cap28

Exactly my thoughts i had earlier stated this in my other post "The western powers are behind this boko haram issue! when would Nigerians realize this?? these western powers know that Nigerians are cowards and would not stage a protest like those being seen in Egypt et al and are using these boko elements to create chaos knowing that the Nigerian government would require their help in tackling the issue hence giving them the oppournity to carry out their dubious acts and having their personal interest at heart whilst at it."

It is so sad that the Nigerian government and other African leaders as well as their citizens cannot see through the gimmicks of the west and how they plan to achieve the so called "break up" of Nigeria by the year 2015 as they predicted. Africa really needs to wake up and come up with ideas of how they can handle their affairs without the intrusion of the western powers, although they have created a system in which Africa remains forever dependent on the west. I believe strongly that Gaddaffi had foreseen these events and tried to warn and unite Africans against a new form of colonialism which is gradually taking place through out Africa.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Why The West Wants The Fall Of Gaddafi? by xcolanto(m): 2:46am On Sep 07, 2011

Nice write up, makes a lot of sense when thought of reasonably.

Politics › Re: Governors Beef Up Security In Fear Of Boko Haram by xcolanto(m): 2:26am On Sep 04, 2011

The Nigerian leaders are clearly falling in line with the western prediction come 2015. cool

Foreign Affairs › Re: I Will Not Surrender - Gaddafi by xcolanto(m): 12:59am On Sep 02, 2011

All those calling for the head of gaddafi, how many times did France, US, Britain, Nato and the NTC make attempts to negotiate diplomatically with the Libyan leader before the incident escalated to what it is now?? Obviously these bodies had their personal interests in mind when attacking and bombing the people of Libya in other to control their resources (oil). let us stop being gullible by western propaganda all in the name of hanging a man (Gaddafi) who had a record of elevating the people of Libya economically (a stable economy without the strong hold and infuelence of western puppet bodies such as the IMF and World bank) and technically ( homes and water supplies as well as medical facilities) than most African countries in the continent. Do not get me wrong Gaddafi is no saint but the way the western powers choose to take him out is questionable.

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Politics › Re: Boko Haram Reveals UN House Bomber’s Name by xcolanto(m): 12:22am On Sep 02, 2011

The western powers are behind this boko haram issue! when would Nigerians realize this?? these western powers know that Nigerians are cowards and would not stage a protest like those being seen in Egypt et al and are using these boko elements to create chaos knowing that the Nigerian government would require their help in tackling the issue hence giving them the oppournity to carry out their dubious acts and having their personal interest at heart whilst at it.

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