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Get the meaning from your cosntitution:

[b]305. (1) Subject to the provisions of this Constitution, the President may by instrument published in the Official -Gazette} of the Government of the Federation issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency in the Federation or any part thereof.
(2) The President shall immediately after the publication, transmit copies of the Official -Gazette of the Government of the Federation containing the proclamation including the details of the emergency to the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives, each of whom shall forthwith convene or arrange for a meeting of the House of which he is President or Speaker, as the case may be, to consider the situation and decide whether or not to pass a resolution approving the Proclamation.
(3) The President shall have power to issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency only when -
(a) the Federation is at war;
(b) the Federation is in imminent danger of invasion or involvement in a state of war;
(c) there is actual breakdown of public order and public safety in the Federation or any part thereof to such extent as to require extraordinary measures to restore peace and security;
(d) there is a clear and present danger of an actual breakdown of public order and public safety in the Federation or any part thereof requiring extraordinary measures to avert such danger;
(e) there is an occurrence or imminent danger, or the occurrence of any disaster or natural calamity, affecting the community or a section of the community in the Federation;
(f) there is any other public danger which clearly constitutes a threat to the existence of the Federation; or
(g) the President receives a request to do so in accordance with the provisions of subsection (4) of this section.
(4) The Governor of a State may, with the sanction of a resolution supported by two-thirds majority of the House of Assembly, request the President to issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency in the State when there is in existence within the State any of the situations specified in subsection (3) (c), (d) and (e) of this section and such situation does not extend beyond the boundaries of the State.
(5) The President shall not issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency in any case to which the provisions of subsection (4) of this section apply unless the Governor of the State fails within a reasonable time to make a request to the President to issue such Proclamation.
(6) A Proclamation issued by the President under this section shall cease to have effect -
(a) if it is revoked by the President by instrument published in the Official Gazette of the Government of the Federation;
(b) if it affects the Federation or any part thereof and within two days when the National Assembly is in session, or within ten days when the National Assembly is not in session, after its publication, there is no resolution supported by two-thirds majority of all the members of each House of the National Assembly approving the Proclamation;
(c) after a period of six months has elapsed since it has been in force:
Provided that the National Assembly may, before the expiration of the period of six months aforesaid, extend the period for the Proclamation of the state of emergency to remain in force from time to time for a further period of six months by resolution passed in like manner; or
(d) at any time after the approval referred to in paragraph (b) or the extension referred to in paragraph (c) of this subsection, when each House of the National Assembly revokes the Proclamation by a simple majority of all the members of each House.[/b]

lee007: Jonathan is the dumbest President ever, very ignorant Nigerians are hailing this decision, the basis of the declaration of state of emergency is already defeated if the governors are kept in power... THRE IS NO STATE OF EMERGENCY WITH THE GOVENORS IN OFFICE!!!

Nigerians are so easy to govern because of our short memory, if you follow the decisions GEJ has taken on boko-haram, you will see that it is filled with blunders and political undertones rather than the interest of the security of the nation.
He once declared them as ghosts, offered amnesty and even set up committee....suddenly they are to be 'smoked' out by this dead on arrival state of emergency? Common? this was just a way to dissolve the governors forum, even my grandmother know that!

STOP CELEBRATING MEDIOCRITY NIGERIANS!

The Military has been in Maiduguri for close to three years still the menace is spreading and spreading fast...Boko-haram is like fire, you need to deal with it from source not just the flames....some key individuals are the source and the members are just flames there is little you can do to flames if the source of ignition is still active!

This Aba made state of emergency is going after the flames and leaving the 'source' in power. IT WON'T WORK!!!

Jonah Grow some Balls and stop playing balls with the lives of millions of Nigerians......I dey Vex!!!!!

Once I saw the bolded part of your statement, I stopped reading. You are actually the dumb person, not GEJ. Some of you guys with shallow brains always want to make people believe that you are wiser than all of those guys in Abuja.

The constitution of Nigeria did not say that democratically elected officials of an area under emergrncy proclamation must be sacked. If you make reference to Obasanjo's time, the Governors of Plateau and Ekiti (and the State Assembly in Ekiti too) were sacked because they were parties to the breakdown of law and order in their states. Except that is established, it would not be justified to sack any elected official.

The relevant section of the constitution has be excerpted and pasted below (make sure you read and educate yourself):

[b]305. (1) Subject to the provisions of this Constitution, the President may by instrument published in the Official -Gazette} of the Government of the Federation issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency in the Federation or any part thereof.
(2) The President shall immediately after the publication, transmit copies of the Official -Gazette of the Government of the Federation containing the proclamation including the details of the emergency to the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives, each of whom shall forthwith convene or arrange for a meeting of the House of which he is President or Speaker, as the case may be, to consider the situation and decide whether or not to pass a resolution approving the Proclamation.
(3) The President shall have power to issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency only when -
(a) the Federation is at war;
(b) the Federation is in imminent danger of invasion or involvement in a state of war;
(c) there is actual breakdown of public order and public safety in the Federation or any part thereof to such extent as to require extraordinary measures to restore peace and security;
(d) there is a clear and present danger of an actual breakdown of public order and public safety in the Federation or any part thereof requiring extraordinary measures to avert such danger;
(e) there is an occurrence or imminent danger, or the occurrence of any disaster or natural calamity, affecting the community or a section of the community in the Federation;
(f) there is any other public danger which clearly constitutes a threat to the existence of the Federation; or
(g) the President receives a request to do so in accordance with the provisions of subsection (4) of this section.
(4) The Governor of a State may, with the sanction of a resolution supported by two-thirds majority of the House of Assembly, request the President to issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency in the State when there is in existence within the State any of the situations specified in subsection (3) (c), (d) and (e) of this section and such situation does not extend beyond the boundaries of the State.
(5) The President shall not issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency in any case to which the provisions of subsection (4) of this section apply unless the Governor of the State fails within a reasonable time to make a request to the President to issue such Proclamation.
(6) A Proclamation issued by the President under this section shall cease to have effect -
(a) if it is revoked by the President by instrument published in the Official Gazette of the Government of the Federation;
(b) if it affects the Federation or any part thereof and within two days when the National Assembly is in session, or within ten days when the National Assembly is not in session, after its publication, there is no resolution supported by two-thirds majority of all the members of each House of the National Assembly approving the Proclamation;
(c) after a period of six months has elapsed since it has been in force:
Provided that the National Assembly may, before the expiration of the period of six months aforesaid, extend the period for the Proclamation of the state of emergency to remain in force from time to time for a further period of six months by resolution passed in like manner; or
(d) at any time after the approval referred to in paragraph (b) or the extension referred to in paragraph (c) of this subsection, when each House of the National Assembly revokes the Proclamation by a simple majority of all the members of each House.
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evilspirit: don't look at Wikipedia look at your constitution men!

Thank you jare! This is the Nigerian constitution's definition of state of emergency:

[b]305. (1) Subject to the provisions of this Constitution, the President may by instrument published in the Official -Gazette} of the Government of the Federation issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency in the Federation or any part thereof.
(2) The President shall immediately after the publication, transmit copies of the Official -Gazette of the Government of the Federation containing the proclamation including the details of the emergency to the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives, each of whom shall forthwith convene or arrange for a meeting of the House of which he is President or Speaker, as the case may be, to consider the situation and decide whether or not to pass a resolution approving the Proclamation.
(3) The President shall have power to issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency only when -
(a) the Federation is at war;
(b) the Federation is in imminent danger of invasion or involvement in a state of war;
(c) there is actual breakdown of public order and public safety in the Federation or any part thereof to such extent as to require extraordinary measures to restore peace and security;
(d) there is a clear and present danger of an actual breakdown of public order and public safety in the Federation or any part thereof requiring extraordinary measures to avert such danger;
(e) there is an occurrence or imminent danger, or the occurrence of any disaster or natural calamity, affecting the community or a section of the community in the Federation;
(f) there is any other public danger which clearly constitutes a threat to the existence of the Federation; or
(g) the President receives a request to do so in accordance with the provisions of subsection (4) of this section.
(4) The Governor of a State may, with the sanction of a resolution supported by two-thirds majority of the House of Assembly, request the President to issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency in the State when there is in existence within the State any of the situations specified in subsection (3) (c), (d) and (e) of this section and such situation does not extend beyond the boundaries of the State.
(5) The President shall not issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency in any case to which the provisions of subsection (4) of this section apply unless the Governor of the State fails within a reasonable time to make a request to the President to issue such Proclamation.
(6) A Proclamation issued by the President under this section shall cease to have effect -
(a) if it is revoked by the President by instrument published in the Official Gazette of the Government of the Federation;
(b) if it affects the Federation or any part thereof and within two days when the National Assembly is in session, or within ten days when the National Assembly is not in session, after its publication, there is no resolution supported by two-thirds majority of all the members of each House of the National Assembly approving the Proclamation;
(c) after a period of six months has elapsed since it has been in force:
Provided that the National Assembly may, before the expiration of the period of six months aforesaid, extend the period for the Proclamation of the state of emergency to remain in force from time to time for a further period of six months by resolution passed in like manner; or
(d) at any time after the approval referred to in paragraph (b) or the extension referred to in paragraph (c) of this subsection, when each House of the National Assembly revokes the Proclamation by a simple majority of all the members of each House.
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wirinet: How can you talk of Democratic institutions when the country is under siege? Did you not hear that the government - both state and federal have lost control of a sizeable portion of bornu. If seems you are oblivious if the fact that these states are bordering on anarchy.

The "DEMOCRATIC" constitution makes provision for suspension of "DEMOCRATICALLY" elected representatives, unless you are arguing with the constitution.

What GEJ is doing is actually unconstitutional, you cannot declared a state of emergency and still have governors and all elected representatives in office.

Can you point out where the constitution says democratically elected officials must be sacked You obviously need some education on this. Grab the constitution and read. It is written in English!

[quote author=Neo-XVI]I'm not denying that. But think about it for a minute, is it that hard to seek deeper solutions aside the easy SOE? He could have proposed solutions if he wanted - which would be better of course - but that does not demean what he was saying. We must learn to rely on empirical facts about the solutions we have previously used. SOE has a poor track record. Why continue to use it?

See my own proposed solutions here, after just asking myself a few questions:

https://www.nairaland.com/1290555/state-emergency-best-option-boko-haram/1#15728742

It didn't take more than 5 mins. If they sit on it for a whole day, they can come by very brilliant, workable solutions. But I guess they're too lazy....[/quote]It had a poor track record because in the instances where it had been used, it was used for vendetta by OBJ. Dialogue has seized to yield fruit and even Boko Haram folks have rejected any plan for amnesty. So what do you want the President to do? To sit down and allow BH have a field day?

Besides, the state of emergency as the President suggested is not meant to be the final and only solution. Irrespective of what those other options are, there is an immediate need to restore law and order. Hence the state of emergency.

azat: Trash! That is not how to declare a state of emergency. If so, then he has not declared anything yet.

I don't blame you. Obasanjo gave you guys a false definition of state of emergency when he removed Governors of the affected states. Obasanjo only took those actions on the premise of doing what is necessary to bring law and order in the affected states especially when in those cases (Plateau and Ekiti States), the Governors were part of the breakdown of law and order.

Below is what the relevant section of the constitution says about state of emergency declaration by the President. Please point out where that provision specifically state that the Governors and political office holders in the state must be sacked.

"[b]305. (1) Subject to the provisions of this Constitution, the President may by instrument published in the Official -Gazette} of the Government of the Federation issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency in the Federation or any part thereof.
(2) The President shall immediately after the publication, transmit copies of the Official -Gazette of the Government of the Federation containing the proclamation including the details of the emergency to the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives, each of whom shall forthwith convene or arrange for a meeting of the House of which he is President or Speaker, as the case may be, to consider the situation and decide whether or not to pass a resolution approving the Proclamation.
(3) The President shall have power to issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency only when -
(a) the Federation is at war;
(b) the Federation is in imminent danger of invasion or involvement in a state of war;
(c) there is actual breakdown of public order and public safety in the Federation or any part thereof to such extent as to require extraordinary measures to restore peace and security;
(d) there is a clear and present danger of an actual breakdown of public order and public safety in the Federation or any part thereof requiring extraordinary measures to avert such danger;
(e) there is an occurrence or imminent danger, or the occurrence of any disaster or natural calamity, affecting the community or a section of the community in the Federation;
(f) there is any other public danger which clearly constitutes a threat to the existence of the Federation; or
(g) the President receives a request to do so in accordance with the provisions of subsection (4) of this section.
(4) The Governor of a State may, with the sanction of a resolution supported by two-thirds majority of the House of Assembly, request the President to issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency in the State when there is in existence within the State any of the situations specified in subsection (3) (c), (d) and (e) of this section and such situation does not extend beyond the boundaries of the State.
(5) The President shall not issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency in any case to which the provisions of subsection (4) of this section apply unless the Governor of the State fails within a reasonable time to make a request to the President to issue such Proclamation.
(6) A Proclamation issued by the President under this section shall cease to have effect -
(a) if it is revoked by the President by instrument published in the Official Gazette of the Government of the Federation;
(b) if it affects the Federation or any part thereof and within two days when the National Assembly is in session, or within ten days when the National Assembly is not in session, after its publication, there is no resolution supported by two-thirds majority of all the members of each House of the National Assembly approving the Proclamation;
(c) after a period of six months has elapsed since it has been in force:
Provided that the National Assembly may, before the expiration of the period of six months aforesaid, extend the period for the Proclamation of the state of emergency to remain in force from time to time for a further period of six months by resolution passed in like manner; or
(d) at any time after the approval referred to in paragraph (b) or the extension referred to in paragraph (c) of this subsection, when each House of the National Assembly revokes the Proclamation by a simple majority of all the members of each House.[/b]"

azat: 15.The details of this Proclamation will be transmitted to the National Assembly in accordance with the provisions of the Constitution. But in the meantime, let me make it clear that within the purview of thisProclamation, the Governors and other political office holders in the affected stateswill continue to discharge their constitutional responsibilities.
16. I urge the political leadership in Borno, Yobe and Adamawa states to co-operate maximally with the Armed Forces and the Police to ensure that the exercise succeeds. We call on the citizenry to co-operate with our security agencies to ensure a return to normalcy within the shortest possible time.

I've been trying to understand this! I thought during state of emergencies governors relinguish their powers to military administrators. Any clarifications please...

Many of you guys ruing the non-sacking of the Governors didn't hear or read the speech ni? He started that statement with "But in the meantime......." referring to the period until the National Assembly approves their full plan.

Why don't you guys just try to understand English?

[quote author=Neo-XVI]He may not have proposed solutions, but pointing out the woeful track record of SOE is a good public service in itself. If the govt is actually trying to solve the issue long term, they should know what to do. It shouldn't be that hard to think through.[/quote]Shame on Dr Aliyu! He should have stated his own opinion on what will work. If you read in between the lines, it is not the fact that he thinks it won't work, it is just another noise from a never-see-anything good in GEJ's government.

Nothing GEJ does will impress the opposition they must pick holes. That is their shallow and pathetic understanding of opposition. Just wait till you see ACN, CPC and APC come out to cry wolf tomorrow.

gboss4sure: I too wanted it to be full emergency where a military man takes over but we cant afford it. The military power our military has makes them go around beating citizen anyhow not to talk of when the now has a Governorship power they will start looking to overthrow democracy.

"15. The details of this Proclamation will be transmitted to the National Assembly in accordance with the provisions of the Constitution. But in the meantime, let me make it clear that within the purview of this Proclamation, the Governors and other political office holders in the affected states will continue to discharge their constitutional responsibilities."

Check out the part of the speech highlighted in bold. He said "..in the meantime..." which means the Governors might still be booted out.

One thing I know for sure is that this Oyinbos will never give up on perfecting this invention. They will address all potential concerns and launch it.

masu: a Fulani friend of my dad also said it bluntly to my dad.

his word is "if we(Fulani's) are the owners of oil in naija, kai everybody go be our slave"
if we have our way we will wipe away Niger deltas and Ibos then take over naija fully"

anyway that statement cost him his friendship with my dad though he careless.
we are not SS that live miles away from them yet they think such ill about them wat abt us MB.

THESE GUYS HAS NO GOOD INTENTION FOR NIGERIA, I CAN SAY IT CLEARLY THAT FULANI HAUSA ARE ON A MISSION.

I have always known this and that is why I don't care if anyone will refer to me as a bigot, I will never vote a fulani man for Presidency in this country. They are all the same - bigoted and trouble making fools, no matter how educated they are.

The fulanis are the problem of the north and by extension, Nigeria. Their coursed father - Uthman Dan Fodio came and destroyed the culture of the Hausas and established them in servitude. The Hausas as they are today are powerless folks who are just being used as pawns by the fulanis.

The day Nigeria solves the fulani problem is the day we'll march into peace and progress.

Ngwakwe: Hausa and most northern tribes are hard-working, moral, hospitable and cooperative until they adopted the "bloody" Jihad ideology from extremist Islam.

Ojukwu was born in the North, so was Nnamdi Azikiwe ever before the amalgamation and birth of Nigeria.

Religion without respect for human lives and dignity plus ethno-racial politics are the destructive monster dividing this country.

Secondly, the war against western education by the Islamist is a great problem. Education has the tendency to liberate the ignorant from being used as a willing tool by the religious ideologists from both side of the isle.

We can still work together but with equal respect for the rule of law, let's adopt Regionalism, State Police, Decentralised Government and an independent Judiciary among many other workable initiatives. If this doesn't work, let go the way of USSR in 1991.

I disagree with the part in bold. Hausa people are f-king lazy! They believe in one nonsense "destiny" and wait for manna. I served in Abuja as a youth corper. Hausa man will leave his village and travel several miles to Abuja only to come and sell sugarcane or own a business selling sweet and kolanut in a tray. Some conveniently take to begging once they lose a limb. They contribute the highest statistics of disease infected people in Nigeria....starting from blindness to cerebro-spinal meningitis etc.

Their problem is made worse by the loss of their cultural identity to Islam. Islam is ruining the north because the fulanis came and destroyed their culture and the order of servitude established by the fulanis is the reason why the Hausa and other subdued tribes in the north can never rise up to confront their ills.

Now, despite all their challenges, they have not been able to use the long years of administering the country to solve their problems. Yet, they want everyone to always concede the leadership of the country to them because it is their "destiny" to rule.

I continue to blame Lord Lugard. May God not grant him rest wherever he is. The south has no business with the north. That is the bitter truth!

doncartel: 1- Idi Amin (Uganda)
2- Mobutu Sese Seko (Zaire/Congo)
3- Robert Mugabe (Zimbabwe)
4- Goodluck Jonathan (Nigeria)
5- Muammar Gaddafi (Libya)

If this is your opinion, then I'm sorry for your mental ability. Goodluck Jonathan is there and IBB and Abacha are better abi? Even the guy who committed genocide in Sudan is better in your assessment....so sorry for your low IQ!

[quote author=]Ijaw oil feeds the North and SW. Nigeria has changed.[/quote]Mischievous fellow! Why are you including the SW? Did SW get the first TV station and free education from oil money?

You suck bro!

So we should not take somebody who was among the people responsible for destroying Nigeria's oil installations - an act that brought our economy almost to a halt serious? We should not believe a man with a gun but rather believe him with mere mouth abi? Asari has a track record of violence.

Tam David-West needs his head examined.

Buhari is a true muslim and his call to Muslims (no matter the denial) to only vote for Muslims is in consonance with the dictate of Islam which forbids an infidel to rule over the faithful.

As long as that part of Islam remains, peace between Islam and other religions would remain elusive.

nuclearboy: An average illiterate hausa/fulani marries a 13 yr old and she gives him 4 children in 4 years. At 17, she's "used up" and he kicks mumand children out and get a newer "model". Considering that many actually run these wives concurrently, one household can kick out 40 children (who take to the streets) in 5 years. A quarter million SUCH households will give 10 milion almajiris in that period. That neglected, deprived hate-imbibed army is what will be let loose presently.

I wonder how many children the SS has that they do not care about and are ready to "waste" in the same manner!

So yes, Dokubo is NOT bluffing but the cost will be to who? His own children (just as those of the President) are secured, ain't they? So his "courage" is really based on the sacrifice of the children of others. And how courageous really is he? What did he do when OBJ arrested him?

The noise about oil is simply noise - who gets benefit from it nowadays anyway? Aso Rock and GEJ's assistants, the greedy NASS, and then, who else? It simply doesnt get down to the people of Nigeria so let them start the war they feel in their minds will be fought on PS3 consoles - when North and SS have decimated themselves, they will understand that sensible people COUNT THE COST OF WAR before initiating it.

Why not rather use all the money dokubo and co are using to buy mansions in Abuja to develop industries, farms, etc in their SS rather than as they left it a wasteland? In fact, if they don't fight and die, they are bastardos

Bros, there are a lot of goof in your post.

1. First, you assumed that when the average hausa/fulani births as much as 40 children in a household, all of them survive and turn to Al-majiri. Do you know the infant mortality rate in the north? Do you know how many of those children don't make it past their 5th birthday? The north contributes about 70% of those infant mortality statistics being brandished about by the WHO and other health organizations so the number of births being recorded there does not justify their claim to higher population than the south. In fact, what could be a reasonable backing to their higher population is the uncontrolled immigration by their brother fulanis from other neighboring countries like Niger and Chad.

2. Second, you also wrongly assumed that the benefit from oil goes to politicians. That is only partially correct. Northerners, either directly or by proxy owns more oil blocks than all southerners put together. Do you know how much Gen. Danjuma made from selling an oil block some few years ago? That is just one of the many northerners who own oil blocks. Many of them are members of the caliphate that you'll never hear their name because they are not politicians.

3. Lastly, you are not a student of history. No change of order like this happen without force. I do not believe that the hausa/fulanis will come to respect other ethnic groups in Nigeria, and the fact that Nigeria should not be about them alone, on the basis of dialogue without a fight. There must be a fight where everyone will flex their muscles. After the fight, we can all come back to the table to talk. At that point, the talking would be meaningful because there will be mutual respect. We have to get to that point and I don't see it happening peacefully because it would take the hausa/fulani a lot of paradigm shift.

I support Asari Dokubo's threats wholeheartedly!!!!

This is getting interesting...please read!

Soludo's Solution Of Anger And Innuendo By Nasir El Rufai
Posted: May 10, 2013 - 00:50

Long before the publication of The Accidental Public Servant, I had decided to resist joining issues with whatever commentators wrote in response to the book by way of either attacking the author or its contents. It is a narrative of my experiences and views, and I would simply invite others to document theirs. Many of those that commented on, or 'reviewed' the book had not even read it in full. Others had decided long before it was published that they would attack El-Rufai and whatever he writes, while a few others were simply going to be unhappy with how they were presented in the book as being less than perfect. When one writes a 700-page book, one has to take a deep breath and allow others the slack to write a few pages in response, however disagreeable or abusive.


When I wrote The Accidental Public Servant, there were no illusions that its account would be uncontested. As I have said repeatedly, it is simply my account of the people and events that defined my years in public service. I took several precautions (such as double-checking from the copious notes and diaries of events that were taken after every major encounter - about forty seven note books in total) of ensuring that it is a truthful, balanced and fair account of my experience. I do not have a professorial memory, so kept daily journals of events including verbatim records of statements. I am delighted that I took the time to write it, and I once again encourage others who have been privileged to be in the public service to similarly record their experiences. Those who may choose not to write books can still contribute by responding to specific issues mentioned in my narrative on which they may have other information, however critical or contrary to my account.

Professor Charles (I have always called him Charles because that is how we were introduced. I have never gotten used to calling him Chukwuma) Soludo approached me at the end of the recent thanksgiving service for my sister, Oby Ezekwesili, to complain about some of the assertions in my book concerning him. He denied that he owed his consulting jobs with the World Bank and other institutions to Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala. He denied being mentored or taught by her father. He added that he had not read the entire book but would send me two pages of his initial observations. I encouraged him not only to do so, but publish it and work on a book documenting his experiences. Knowing Charles as I do, I had no doubt that he was already doing that and the first episode has now been published in his fortnightly column in Thisday.

Thus, his rebuttal did not come as a surprise; given that I encouraged him to do so as I have nothing to hide. Even so, it is shocking that he chose to sensationalise his version of events by describing The Accidental Public Servant as intellectual fraud. There is a question mark in the title of his article, but the last sentence of Charles' diatribe restated his magisterial conclusion. He went further to provide his own definitions of fraud as "an intentional deception made for personal gain or to damage another individual" or "as course of deception, an intentional concealment, omission or perversion of truth"; only to stop there! Fraud has a technical and legal definition and if Charles had bothered to consult his lawyer, he would have gone beyond the 'online definition', but that is another matter for now.

It is illogical to contest someone’s CV with him in the absence of contrary and superior information. I therefore concede to Charles' account of his professional odyssey prior to his being introduced to us in 2000 by Ngozi Okonjo Iweala, long before joining the Obasanjo government in 2003. The logical question therefore is how any of the examples he gave of the errors in his resume would without more, rise to the level of fraud? Why would I intentionally deceive the world that Soludo's tenure as governor of CBN started in mid-2005 rather than May of 2004? This only occurred when one of the book's editors thought the 2004 date was wrong and 'corrected' it but that escaped subsequent editorial reviews. What is the personal gain to me in describing Soludo as a protégé of Professor Okonjo or how did the description damage him when he just referred to the same Professor Okonjo as "respected"? So, Charles needs to substantiate how any assertion, error or omission in the book amounts to "fraud" per his definition.

After that, I do not see much that is significant to warrant a clarification from me. One friend on Twitter observed that Charles' polemic had so much anger and little substance that he truly sounded as angry as a woman scorned! Much of Charles’ response is enlivened by innuendos. He repeats the frequent charge about my ambition for the presidency in 2007, a charge that is untrue but that is often echoed as if that ambition, if it existed, is akin to treason. Charles knows that I do not consider illegitimate his desire to be governor of his state or his current hopes to be a presidential running-mate. But he should know better than most that ambition for office is not the only reason for being active in politics. Since Charles has claimed that I 'schemed desperately' to succeed Obasanjo, he should please tell all - inform Nigerians what I did, who was involved and spill the beans! Virtually all the narratives in The Accidental Public Servant about Charles involved others that are still alive, and if he said I made them up, perhaps he should state his version and invite others mentioned to invalidate my claim instead of calling anyone a liar just because he did not like the way his conduct appeared in the book.

Charles was introduced to me by Ngozi, and that was the foundation of our professional relationship and friendship. As far as I know, it was also Ngozi who proposed his name for economic adviser and Oby (and her husband) took him to Obasanjo several times before he was appointed. If Charles is denying that this happened, that is fine. It does not change the facts, and those that did what they did know what they did or did not do! Why is Charles so hurt that others have helped him? Is he suggesting that he had won the Nobel Prize in Economics and that is how Obasanjo got to meet and appoint him?

Charles presented his jaundiced interpretations of what I wrote in clear language as my views in his piece. For instance, there was nowhere in the book that I wrote that 'Ngozi was power hungry.' She was pragmatic and realistic about power relations. How does that equate to being power hungry? Charles is playing with words in a patently dishonest way, knowing that many that will read his piece have not read the book, but he is not the intellectual fraud! Charles also asserted that I forced myself on the economic team and “destroyed it”! Was it El-Rufai that composed the membership of the team? When and how was the team single-handedly destroyed by me? As far as I know, warts and all, the economic team kept on working till May 29, 2007. Again, I invite Charles to educate us all now, bearing in mind virtually all the team members are still alive and around, even after he stopped attending its weekly meetings.

In the book, I wrote that Charles did many things to ingratiate himself to Obasanjo, one of which was to attribute every good 'idea' to the latter; not actual achievements, since there were few in the early days. Charles' response was to misrepresent what was written, just as he knows that there is no weight to the claim that appointees under a presidential system cannot claim credit for their work. To acknowledge the opportunity President Obasanjo gave me to serve, and the support he provided to help us succeed at the FCT is very different from pretending that only the boss had any ideas on how to administer Abuja, or that he oozed perfection, presidential system or not.

Charles also came out guns blazing questioning my narratives of events involving his new mentor Atiku Abubakar, and Nuhu Ribadu and Obasanjo. In Charles' views, these three people made me tick in government and I should be eternally grateful. Charles has not read the book. If he did, he would have come across all the instances in which I gave each of them credit for what they did right and how they contributed to the work I did. Unlike Charles who makes people believe they are perfect when he needs them, I was consistent in and out of office in pointing to those I worked with where I believe they went wrong Just as I was self critical of my own shortcomings. In Charles' vocabulary, that is ingratitude. In mine, it is simply utilitarian sycophancy to attribute perfection to imperfect mortals because they are likely to help one's career next week!

Charles claimed that I pleaded with him to provide technical assistance to BPE. That is false. That conversation just never happened. Those familiar with BPE know that we hired people either as regular public servants, individual consultants called 'core team' members that work full time in the organization or investment bankers and consulting firms like lawyers and accountants that provided periodic transactional services as needed. Charles and his economic consulting firm did not fit into any of the three categories. I appointed him to the membership of two reform steering committees - Competition and Anti-Trust and the Industry and Manufacturing Reform Committees along with persons of the calibre of Pat Utomi, Oby Ezekwesili, and Aliko Dangote. I was the coordinator of both committees as DG of the BPE, with Ibrahim S. Njiddah, now a presidential assistant doing the day-to-day management. I am now learning from the Charles’ piece that he single-handedly did the work of the Competition Reform Committee for free. I did not realize that all the other notable members did nothing! Well, thanks Charles, but Steering Committee members got hotel accommodation and were paid sitting allowances by the BPE, so I do not quite understand what was meant by asserting that you did the work free of charge.

That leaves us with asking Charles to detail the fraud he alleges was attendant to the efforts we made to restore the Abuja master plan. He claimed that my ‘vindictiveness’ nearly ruined the exercise. Really? There is need to say more right on this away. I am challenging Charles to substantiate these innuendos with names and details of my alleged vindictiveness in his article since everybody knows that my service at the FCT is a matter of public record that has been investigated by several institutions unsympathetic to me, and all Abuja residents know about and still comment upon it.

The rest of Soludo’s article was spent blowing his trumpet of banking consolidation with his characteristic modesty! The dismissal of Charles' over-hyped banking consolidation in The Accidental Public Servant therefore appeared to upset him more than anything else. He is still under the illusion that his 'revolution' changed our lives the way GSM licensing did! No one needs a single 234Next to see through the hype and the disingenuous comparison. Banks like First Bank, UBA, Union, Zenith IBTC, and GTB needed no consolidation. They had sound business models and were doing well without it. Soludo’s consolidation abolished investment banks and regional banks, while creating a few ‘big’ banks with funny names many of which were either comatose by 2009 or had to be subsequently saved by the Sanusi Lamido Sanusi rescue exercise. It is pathetic to measure the success of consolidation by the number of banks in the top 1,000 banks in the world. Did that ranking translate into increased lending to the real sector, greater employment opportunities for our people and intensified mobilization of savings in the way the GSM revolution did? No way, only massive margin loans to create a stock market bubble, engender insider lending and incestuous relations between regulators and operators in the industry.

The kind of targeted interventions needed to fill the gaps sustained by some of such policies were opposed by Soludo unless the ideas originated from him. As CBN governor, Charles did all he could to frustrate the attempts to establish a national mortgage system and was openly critical of Ngozi's drive and contributions in getting the Paris Club debts written off for the simple reason that the the credit might go to others not Soludo!

Charles is free to beat his chest and claim that the deformed baby called consolidation was a revolution, but today many of the the poster-children of the policy like Intercontinental, Oceanic, Finbank and Spring Bank are history, the banking-stockbroking rock stars are facing prosecution, and with N4 trillion spent to prevent the collapse of his revolution. When Charles’ memoirs are published, those that either witnessed it or had to clean up ‘the world’s fastest growing financial system’ will have their own views. And it will be good for the country. After all, it has been said that every story has at least three sides, my version, your version and the truth which lies somewhere in between the two. If one refers to a book one finds disagreeable as intellectual fraud while insisting that a cancer one created that has cost nearly the annual budget of the federal government to treat, so far, as a resounding success, then what more is there to say? It simply points to the moral and psychological mind-set of such a person.

http://saharareporters.com/article/soludos-solution-anger-and-innuendo-nasir-el-rufai

Rossikk: You certainly need a degree in sociology, politics, or at least some advanced learning in these areas, to convincingly dissect a problem as complex as terrorism and Boko Haram, especially when you're sat alongside the likes of Wole Soyinka. It is time people like you and Sowore learnt to STUDY and THINK beyond the intellectually lazy catch-all phrase ''corruption''. There are many other factors and dynamics at play in a nation's development trajectory, and you MUST be a person who STUDIES in order to know and discuss them. When your answer to everything is ''corruption'', it shows you as poorly-read, dumb and stup.id. As for corruption itself, there are at least 50 countries ranked by Transparency International as suffering more corruption than Nigeria, but as usual, Nigerians will take a bad thing in their midst, and exaggerate it to be 1000 times worse than it is, and make themselves the defacto most corrupt nation on earth by their own words and minds, drawing the entire world's opprobrium on themselves. Many Nigerians are really a pathetic lot. And then when foreigners treat you like dirty trash simply for being Nigerian, you complain. They should single YOU out of course and treat you nice. Isn't it only the OTHER Nigerians that are ''all corrupt'' except you? Thoughtless, pathetic set of people.

Very much on point! I met some Indians in the US and we got talking about corruption. When I heard Indian's version of corruption, I realized that Nigeria's own is child's play. But unlike in Nigeria, things work in India! Not that we are wishing corruption away as not a serious problem but it is myopic to always blame corruption for all our issues. There are much more problems caused by our decaying moral values and an outrageous sense of greed than corruption which in my opinion is a degenerate of our lack of values.

[quote author=pres-elect]allow me to disagree

it's about time we, the people, started to look these politicians in the eye and call them out for the hooligans they all are. obviously boko haram is a terrorist organization, but . . .
if the economy was good, if nigeria was well run . . . .
we would have had an efficient police and intelligence units which will fight this terrorist gang and we won't need soldeirs who are trained for battle to be doing this. anytime soldiers engage in this sort of crisis it wont be long before a massacre happens (odi, zaki-biam, baga . . . ) bc that's what they are trained to do to nigeria's enemies in a foreign war.

if the economy was good, if nigeria was well run . . .
most young people would be gainfully employed and no gainfully employed young man with plans for a better future will want to joing killing gangs and boko haram would not have fighters to keep fighting from year to year

if the economy was good, if nigeria was well run . . . .we would have had strong border security and we wont see foreign fighters crossing the border to support a jihadist movement in nigeria

if the economy was good, if nigeria was well run . . .
nigerian citizens woulda been living in some decent level of comfort by now that will make this kind of local terrorism nearly impossible to execute. not progressive country has home grown terrorists.

unfortunately nigeria is not well run and the economy is pathetic. look at this politican telling us not to despair but not providing even the slightest evidence of efficacy for us to hang our hopes on. he couldnt even articuate a single tangible answer to the myriad of questions that were asked. sometimes i wonder how these guys even lead this land.[/quote]Mr man......abeg make we hear word! You and Sowore can certainly not lecture Nigerians on the root cause of all our problems including the Boko Haram challenge. That forum was not for anyone to remind us but to analyze all options and help us all see what path to thread on Boko Haram.

By the way, we make our politicians what they are. Not many people seems to see that they are not actually the problem but the masses. A resolute and committed followership will throw up the good leaders that are needed to drive change. Imagine if Sowore channels all of that wasted energy on mobilizing youths in Nigeria to press and demand for capital punishment for corruption? Imagine if we constitute a not-for-profit team of lawyers who will press charges against corrupt people free of charge? Imagine all of us genuinely committed to fighting corruption rather than just put pen to paper and abuse or sit somewhere in the diaspora and make noise?

We need not continue to talk about the problems we all know, it is time to work the talk bro!!!

I think Sowore was grossly uncivilized in that interview. He seemed hell bent on digressing from the main subject into personal attacks on Doyin Okupe. That was a waste of space and time that could have been channeled to more intelligent use. Many people are dying daily and we are all looking for a workable solution to the issue of Boko Haram. Wasn't the the interview about sharing knowledge about how this menace can be stopped? And all Sowore could do is to trivialize it and reduce the talking points by picking on Doyin Okupe. Sowore is so immature at 40!!!

dinachi: We all know the stock in trade of the PDP.They are so afraid of Buhari that they shit their pants anytime his name is mentioned! This new Post is in reaction to the news that APC may have settled for Buhari already! For PDP the fear of Buhari is the begining of panic! Make una fear well well, This time around even if Una say him don join Illuminati we go still vote for am! ;DWe all know the stock in trade of the PDP.They are so afraid of Buhari that they shit their pants anytime his name is mentioned! This new Post is in reaction to the news that APC may have settled for Buhari already! For PDP the fear of Buhari is the begining of panic! Make una fear well well, This time around even if Una say him don join Illuminati we go still vote for am! I will not even going to dignify this silly, childish GEJ sponsored clueless accusatory post with an explanation. Mumu is when you let PDP decieve you to the extent that you actually start to believe them!

You are one of those being deceived by that assembly of rogues called APC. I get really enraged when I see people like you who think PDP is the problem in Nigeria. It just shows a lack of understanding of the problems plaguing this country. No political party in Nigeria - PDP, APC etc is configured to throw out a credible candidate. They are all in it for gains and not service.

By the way, why should PDP be afraid of Buhari when they have defeated him three times in a row? It would be free ride for Jonathan if APC makes the mistake of presenting Buhari again. In adition, I don't even believe Ojuyobo would be willing to have a stubborn Buhari as his party flagbearer because he (Tinubu) is not about fixing Nigeria but business. Buhari is bad business for Jagaban!

Buhari's only selling point, according to his apologists, is that he would fight corruption. Those folks quickly reel out the skewed anti-corruption crusade of his military regime and I always agree that his regime had a modest achievement in that regard simply because it was a dictatorship - a season of jungle justice! Today, we have a democracy and new ways of fighting corruption which require thorough investigation, proving the case of corruption in court and getting a conviction. I don't understand how his dictatorship experience will get criminals like Tinubu and other APC rogues convicted for example. I have not heard anyone of those apologists say what he would do differently from the PDP's EFCC.

Finally, Buhari is only about the Fulani agenda. Just check his antecedents and past utterances and you will find that out.

Good news! May God answer all their prayers (both Aliyu and Asari Dokubo).

I can't wait for this forced marriage to end and everybody goes to answer their father's name.

sojimade: Serves him right, this form of beating must be adopted constitutionally. iRep Naija

toolovely: See it in which angle? Gej set up several committees on the fuel subsidy scam and all the various committees indicted the minister ☀f petroleum but efcc has turned a blind eyes towards that.
Since 2007, why is it now that he's having problem with gej that they now remembered that he's corrupt?
I can only deduce that efcc is a tool for witch hunting your political enemy not for the good ☀f Nigeria

I'm sorry to say this, but you are really backward! If you love Nigeria and you truly want a change, you will look beyond sentiments and ask the right question - did Amaechi commit the crime he is being accused of or not??

Leave Jonathan out of this. His day of reckoning too will come but now, it is Amaechi's "a*s*s" that is being opened. Let us deal with that and pray that sometime in the future it would be GEJ's turn.

CFCfan: This is why section 308 of the 1999 constitution (as amended) needs to be repealed. It is absurd that criminal investigations on individuals have to be set aside due to the political office such a fellow holds.

Nonetheless, I hope this latest action by d EFCC is not a witch-hunt from President Jonathan, as we saw during OBJ's tenure.

What if it is a witch-hunt? Is the hunted not a witch? You see, comments like yours is why Nigeria is not moving forward.
If Amaechi stole from public purse, as far as I am concerned, I don't care if his political enemies are the ones helping the victims (the people of Rivers State) to find justice, justice must be done. He must be prosecuted. Period!!!!!!!

templeinyou: You are correct, but where were they since, why now, must every surppot GEJ? what IS domocracy. well. I heard of election conducted since 2011 but still lingering in court till date
Bros WHY?

No, everyone doesn't have to support GEJ but if you have skeleton in your cupboard, you aint got many choices. Whoever finds out your most guarded secret becomes your master.

Boyoorisha: I just hope this guy won't go the Sylva's way

He is sure to go that way! You don't stand in the way of a moving train and expect not to be crushed. He's so stupid to have underestimated a Nigerian President. The Presidency is a powerful office and it does not matter who occupies that position or whatever name he goes by. I have said it before, even OBJ "no get mouth" except Jonathan does not want to wield power and I think he is going to learn to wield it with people like Tony Anenih in his think tank.

Check out my previous post on GEJ/Amaechi tussle on this thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/1269269/dickson-amaechi-want-leader-opposition/1#15419678

Amaechi should go back to school to learn Judo strategy:

First Strategy: Move to uncontested ground (Never go head-to-head with a potentially superior opponent. You'll be crushed if you do. Amaechi should not deceive himself. He cannot be VP in PDP while Jonathan holds sway. Those deceiving him should know this is not Rivers State, this is Nigeria)

Second Strategy: Be Flexible (Make changes quickly and give way when attacked by superior force. Don't escalate unwinnable wars. Match tactical adjustment with long term strategic plans)

Third Strategy: Exploit leverage (Use weight and strength of your opponent against him. Cooperate with others who are threatened by your opponents success. Don't forget, your own success can also be used against you)

Bottom Line: If Amaechi wants to fight GEJ, he has to leave PDP. He can't do it successfully in PDP.

solace2013: Nothing makes ACN better than PDP, they are even worse. Its only that ACN is a very clever party, exposing the opposition while covering themselves. In any sane society, the likes of Lagos speaker Ikuforiji and even Tinubu himself are supposed to be cooling it off in prison by now. Come to think of a man whose worth in 1999 we know, now becoming stupendously rich to the extent of wasting over 20billion naira on Ondo election of last year without feeling anything, ACN and PDP are birds of the sdame feather flocking differently, cheers!

I disagree with the part in bold. ACN is not clever, they are being under-reported because the press in Nigeria are also guilty of partisanship and the military infested mentality of always beaming the light on the Presidency and the central government. For example, Obanikoro's son won an election in Lagos Island but till today, the boy has not been sworn in despite winning an appeal at the election tribunal. ACN influenced the Lagos judiciary to vacate the order of the election tribunal. That singular incident has not been widely reported by any Nigerian newspaper and media houses because it was not about Jonathan or PDP. When Fayemi unlawfully sacked LG Chairmen in Ekiti and was overturned by the court, it was also under reported but if it happens in a PDP controlled state, Liar Mohammed would issue statement that will be reported by all media houses.

Another reason is that ACN is a regional party. They have never managed the amount of wealth that PDP is managing. They have not managed multi-ethnic and multi-religious agenda that PDP is grapling with. If they get that big, it is very easy to see how they will fail judging from their undemocratic tendencies.

Okupe's statement is a tactical one and it is appalling that many of you who claim to be following events cannot discern the real essence of his statements.

ACN is looking to outsource its candidate from PDP again. They have been talking to Tambuwal and some other folks in PDP as options. Preempting this, Okupe has come out to cast a moral burden on them. With this attack, APC's image would be dealth a serious blow and people would not take them seriously if they source their candidate from PDP. Okupe has tactically limited their options.

If they are truly and really different, why can't they produce their own "Fresh Air"? Why must they always look to PDP for presidential candidate? Doesn't that suggest that they - APC are opportunists with no ideals?

iwanchop: That's what he is paid to do;bring down the opposition at all cost.
Okupe does not care whether the president is right or wrong,his number one job responsibility is to convince the masses GEJ is right even when it is clear he is wrong.

So what is Liar Mohammed paid to do? To make Jonathan look good?

Can you guys for God's sake examine the factual assertions he made? Has ACN not been outsourcing their presidential candidates? What ideals did they stand for?

Okupe is doing his job and doing it well. If it pains you, go and hang yourself....shioor!