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finni:
Please follow this link and see how the FFK/PDP sponsored protest against Buhari backfired:
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152755090526939&fref=nf

This is the Youtube version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDAtLpywjtA

Chukwugekwu:
you are nothing but a common dunce

You know I'm not responsible for your poor grasp of the English Language? why hating on me

Chukwugekwu:
They thought he will won the election on 14th February and their have giving rat medicine already. ........

Please speak in your local dialect if English is a little bit confusing.

iykofias:
dude u sound too bitter to b a pastor.

here's the pastor on another thread :

p1jiobi:
Keep it o yourself. Don't tell anyone o! I see u want to taste old joy stick abi. U finally seduced d old man u come here to announce your conquest. Pls pfuck him well and tells how it went.

p1jiobi:
I am a pastor under CAN and pfn. Pls all these are lies. The people who gave us pastors money is APC. We were paid to come to abuja and endorse buhari. Of course I returned my share. Rev. Musa Dikwa is a thief and shameless liar. He collected 500million from Ameachi to share to pastors undr their union on d pretext that jonathan had given pastors 6billion. Rev.Musa Dikwa u are a shamelesssss, patheticcccc liAr.

Really? You are a pathetic liar and an agent of destruction, lacking any shred of integrity. Here you are advising someone to Bleep on another thread

p1jiobi:
Keep it o yourself. Don't tell anyone o! I see u want to taste old joy stick abi. U finally seduced d old man u come here to announce your conquest. Pls pfuck him well and tells how it went.

raumdeuter:
^^ If you look at his very first posts on this forum, then you wouldnt be surprised.

He came here as Koro's paid hack and I actually felt he was another monicker for Alj harem who display similar tendencies and flip flops as many times as he goes to the bathroom

Below are his first set of topics posted on this forum

https://www.nairaland.com/1318421/things-need-know-senator-musliu

https://www.nairaland.com/1330008/tinubu-vs-koro-really-traitor

https://www.nairaland.com/1358119/koro-rare-breed-politician

Wow, just seeing this.....

raumdeuter:
How would someone not in govt have access to govt asset to even divert it to Buhari's campaign?

Its like saying Orji Kalu diverted Abia state money to Jonathans campaign in 2011

BTW, Buhari as head of state prosecuted Ambrose Alli, Let Fayose or Jonathan prosecute anyone PROVEN to have stolen money

@raumdeuter, his case is unbelievable considering his reasoning before and after joining the TANoids

barcanista:
Buhari jailed Ambrose Ali for diverting the sum of N980,000 to his party through a road contractor.

Fayemi wife has been accused of diverting N57m to Buhari Campaign rather than what it was meant for.

Change is when what is good for the goose is also good for the gander.

If this allegation is true, then they should not sweep it under rug.

Fellow Nigerians, we need change but not a corruption driven one.

Wow!!! it seems f00lishness is automatically injected into everyone who supports GEJ, can't believe how an articulate Barcanista would make incoherent statements, I'm sure there's something in the water you guys drink at the PDP caucus meetings.

Here's your analogy, Buhari (who is not the President) should direct Fayemi (who isn't the governor) to arrest Fayemi's wife for stealing
Who controls the Police?
Who controls EFCC?

Your intelligence is legendary that it compares with Albert Einstein.

It is only GEJ that speaks and his supporters need to explain what he meant before we understand him. Cluelessness is enshrined in him DNA for him to flop a discussion even after he had been given the questions ahead of time.

Asked about JEGA and he's talking about not liking Turkey, like seriously...

lalasticlala:
Good. That’s all I need. Thanks

I think lalasticlala should be mod of the year.


Not lazy, he creates insightful topics , not partisan and respects others.

xwolverine:
the total cost of $345.05million, including freight in the attached invoice…does not differentiate between the Puma and SU-25. The unit cost for the SU-25 is mentioned as $11million for a new jet on the internet. While the offered SU-25 are not new, the Puma helicopters are heavily overloaded in price of at least $45 million each

some people need to be arrested for treason, haba!! where is the fear of God

Whistleblowers in the defence industry are raising the alarm over a massive fraud of $466.5 million about to be executed at the Nigeria Air Force (NAF) with some arms dealers, using the United States’ refusal to grant export permit for military hardware to Nigeria as pretext.

A letter to the government aroused the suspicion. An arms procurement company wrote that in view of the refusal of the US to give export licence to Nigeria, it had reached an agreement with NAF to substitute the initial order for Cobra AH-IV with alternate attack platform which it claimed, has greater fire power.

The letter detailed the alternate equipment to include six upgraded armed Puma Helicopters with the equivalent attack capabilities of the Cobra; four SU-25KM upgraded ground support/ attack aircraft;2 EU 25 UB for the purpose of qualifying and training NAF pilots for specific mission.

To power the pitch further, it offer additional incentive by proposing to build a suitable purpose built storage and hanger for the Puma and SU25 helicopters to accommodate the ground support requirements.

Same day, the company initiated a second correspondence with the NAF from its representative office at 1c Barnes High Street, London SW 13 9LB, United Kingdom titled “ Additional Critical Armament Requirement for NAF”. The company put the cummulative charges for the various equipment, including shipping at $466.5million.

Whistleblowers were shocked that in a government parastatal known for slow moving mails and deliberations, the NAF recommended the pitch by the military hardware supply company to the higher echelon of government within 16 days of submitting the proposal.

In its recommendation, NAF wrote: “The NAF hereby confirms the letters from the firm (name withheld) regarding platform amendment and additional armament requirement for the NAF. This arrangement became necessary because the United States of America failed to endorse the sale of Cobra AH-IV attack helicopter to Nigeria.

Accordingly, NAF has agreed that the said firm (name withheld) replace the Cobra helicopter with six upgraded armed Puma helicopters, four upgraded SU-25KM and two upgraded SU-25UB attack aircraft”.

The NAF stated that the technical specifications and scopes of work for the aircraft types, required upgrade, training and support package as well as the additional armament requirements have been signed by both parties.

Stridently painting the urgent need for the supply, the NAF urged the approving authority to consent to the request immediately to address current national security challenges as the equipment were needed in the short term.

Curiously, the NAF letter admitted that the equipment being procured was not the appropriate hardware to meet the needs. It noted that the acquisition of new Mangusta 129-Attack Helicopters were actually needed to enhance the Force’s operational capabilities.

The contents of the correspondence soon became known to insiders in the Defence industry and led to serious petitions against the transaction on the grounds that it would amount to massive fraud if executed and that the NAF was guilty of negligence as it did not carry out the mandatory due diligence before endorsing the deal.

According to a petition by a military hardware supplier, “ the total cost of $345.05million, including freight in the attached invoice…does not differentiate between the Puma and SU-25. The unit cost for the SU-25 is mentioned as $11million for a new jet on the internet. While the offered SU-25 are not new, the Puma helicopters are heavily overloaded in price of at least $45 million each”.

Wondering why the NAF would prefer overloaded cost, the company said it quoted $25 million for the helicopter adding that the $39.45 million offered by the preferred firm for armament to NAF, far exceeded its quotation of $13million.

Its conclusion: “This proposed deal being supported by the approving authority is heavily overloaded and considering the probable age of the equipment, is not a fair deal for Nigeria at all”. It added that the proposed training for the pilots and the building of a new hanger are out of place since the pilots are adequately trained and there exisits a subsisting hanger.

Defence industry sources believe that the transaction is a smokescreen for massive fraud as the proposed equipment are no longer being produced and those being refurbished for supply under this transaction cannot deliver on their functions.

Efforts to obtain the reaction of the NAF at the time of going to press were not fruitful as the official lines of the media department were switched off.


Source: http://thenationonlineng.net/new/nigeria-set-lose-466m-arms-deal/

Interesting

U.S. May Approve Sale Of Cobra Jets To Nigeria
Saturday, 31 January 2015 21:56
Written by Laolu Akande (New York) and Kamal Tayo Oropo (Lagos)
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• Africa Agrees To Send 7,500 Troops To Fight Boko Haram

CREDIBLE sources in the United States of America, Saturday, hinted that the White House might be planning to offer Nigeria a more significant military assistance to fight the Boko Haram terrorist group after the Presidential elections.

In the same vein, the African Union, yesterday, agreed to send 7,500 troops to fight the Boko Haram insurgency in Northeast Nigeria.

The head of the African Union’s Peace and Security Council, Samil Chergui, who made disclosure said the move came after the council urged heads of state to endorse the deployment of troops from five West African countries to fight the terror group.

It is, however, uncertain, whether, or not, the outcome of the election would influence US’ plan to reconsider its earlier decision not to sale cobra jets to Nigeria. The planned military assistance, it was gathered, points to the possibility of approving sale of Cobra jets to Nigeria, an assistance that was previously denied it.

The Guardian can reveal that US Secretary of State, John Kerry, hinted this in his meetings last week in Lagos with Nigeria’s President Goodluck Jonathan and his main challenger, General Mohammadu Buhari.

In fact, the US government has decided that while it will continue with the level and range of help and assistance it is currently rendering to Nigeria, more significant support, including a review of US decision not to approve the supply of Cobra jets to the Nigerian military, will follow after the presidential polls.

In the same vein, the US may change its attitude on the level of American military training for Nigeria, essentially finding a way to work around the Leahy amendments, which constrains the use of US military training for countries with tainted militaries on the issue of human rights violations.

It was disclosed that such reviews, both for military training and supply of the military fighter jets/weapons, would be facilitated not only with a new and different administration taking charge in Nigeria, but essentially the change in US policy can also come with a peaceful, free and fair election, no matter who wins the election.

But what is clear, according to informed US sources, is that the US is essentially waiting on a peaceful outcome of the presidential polls next week. In fact, the White House has scheduled a major counter-terrorism conference, called “Summit on Countering Violent Extremism,” for Feb 18; and foreign leaders, including those from Nigeria, would be invited.

Already, members of the US Congress from both the Democratic and Republican parties are raising questions on the restraint of the White House to offer Nigeria a full-fledged support especially in regards to military and security assistance.

For instance, the Chairman of the US House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee, Congressman Ed Royce, and members of his committee are said to have invited the Nigerian Ambassador to the US, Prof Ade Adefuye to a meeting tomorrow (Monday February 2).

Adefuye has been cited by several US sources as being singularly responsible for the pressure now being mounted on the US government even from within, regarding the need for a review and ramping up of American support and assistance to Nigeria on the fight against terror.

Sources said the meeting is a follow-up to last Tuesday’s Congressional hearing on Nigeria, where US members of the Congress actually criticised the US government’s limited support to Nigeria in its fight against Boko Haram.

The meeting will explore what more the US government can do and how the US Congress, now in the hands of opposing Republicans, can put more pressure on a White House controlled by Democrats.

US Defense Department (also known as the Pentagon) and US Africa Command officials have been particularly critical of the Nigerian military and are said to have been responsible for the refusal of the US government to okay the sales of the Cobra helicopter fighter jets to Nigeria.

Besides, the White House and State Dept officials have invoked the Leahy rules to explain why the American government has been limiting its military assistance to Nigeria. The Leahy rules constrains the US government to provide military assistance to a foreign country whose military has been accused of human rights violation.

However, in response, a number of US Congressmen and women have argued that there are untainted Nigeria military formations that can be supported by the US.

Sources added that the US government might change the application of that Leahy amendment and rules, since any of the two leading candidates — President Jonathan and Buhari — that emerge would be technically considered a new administration.

Speaking on Tuesday at the US Congress, the Acting US Assistant Secretary of State, Ambassador Robert P. Jackson, said Secretary John Kerry’s trip to Nigeria just “weeks ahead of the elections to meet with the candidates was intended to send a strong signal that we appreciate the enormity of the challenge and are interested in its peaceful outcome.”

He added that “it is vitally important that the elections in Nigeria are not only credible, but that Nigerians see the elections as credible.”

Continuing, the US official said: “during his visit, Secretary Kerry reiterated to both President Jonathan and General Buhari that the world is watching Nigeria’s elections, and prevailed upon them to encourage their followers to commit to nonviolence. He welcomed the signing by both on January 14 of the “Abuja Accord” on nonviolence and their agreement to accept the results of the election.”

The official then urged the US Congressional committee and other Members to help the Nigerian electoral process “by further emphasising the need for a credible, non-violent election, which would amplify other high-level outreach that we are pursuing.”

He concluded that “at the end of the day, of course, it is the responsibility of Nigeria’s political elite and security institutions to ensure that the coming elections are peaceful.”

Meanwhile, African leaders who are members of the 54-nation African Union met in the Ethiopian capital, Addis Ababa, for a two-day summit that ended yesterday.

U.N. Secretary General, Ban Ki Moon, earlier said he supports the AU’s move to send a force to fight Boko Haram, a sect that is already stepping up attacks as Nigeria prepares for February 14 elections.

Upon his emergence as new leader of the AU, Zimbabwe’s President, Robert Mugabe, wasted no time calling on members to improve infrastructure and tackle climate change, conflict and Ebola and with a familiar rallying cry that Africa’s wealth belongs to Africa and not “imperialists and colonialists.”

The 90-year-old veteran leader, who was elected head of the union on Friday, replaces President Mohamed Ould Abdel Aziz, of Mauritania.

- See more at: http://m.ngrguardiannews.com/en/news/national-news/196178-u-s-may-approve-sale-of-cobra-jets-to-nigeria#sthash.ni45TFXW.dpuf

Abok1:
Please don't mislead the populace with those pictures, they aren't Chadian mi35 helicopters, they are Indian images gotten from the web.

The roundel on the holicopters is not the Chadian roundel.

They are actually Ukranian images


source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-24#mediaviewer/File:Ukrainian_Mil_Mi-24_helicopters.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Ukrainian_Mil_Mi-24_helicopters.jpg/1024px-Ukrainian_Mil_Mi-24_helicopters.jpg

Cc barcanista, lalasticlala, Gbawe, raumdeuter, other progressives

dapsoneh:
Son-inlaw I guess

No Sir, Biological son

modified

**Modified

its the apha Jet

mzilakazi:
Tell me does it hurt you when South Africans have made upgrade on your MI-35s? We have done it to many nations before you.

Hurt? you don't get it do you?
Unlike you, I am not emotional about this, because at the end of the day, my Hinds are the one being upgraded, while you are stuck with 11 Rooivalks. The money paid doesn't go to SANDF, but to the private pockets of Ivor Ichikowitz, at the end of the day the helos are still mine. Like I said earlier, you should focus on raising funds for the broke SANDF and the SAAF with toddler pilots. And while at it, hold your generals responsible for throwing $700 million down the drain for 11 helos.

mzilakazi:
South Africans of course. bwahahaha!!!

This discussion is degenerating into a huge joke which negates the importance of educating you on the specifics of the Hind project. As a matter of principle, don't make assumptions without facts to back it up, it doesn't augur well with the level of intelligence expected of an adult on a public fora like Nairaland. Making conjectures and stating half-truths thereby turning an intelligent discuss into joystick measurement competition brings this thread into disrepute. I will only reply to your comments when you start backing up your assumptions with facts.

Now I understand why Oga Henry120 doesn't like educating you guys, its tiring and you sometimes wonder if you are speaking with an adult.
Oga Henry120 I doff my hat bruv, its not an easy task.

mzilakazi:
Yes, a real respect for South Africans and remember that they are your heroes as well, as confirmed by your own mouth.

Are you a psychic to know what nationalities the technicians are? the fact that they work in SA doesn't make them southafricans. Sometimes its near impossible to understand your basis for assumptions.

mzilakazi:
If you don't know that then you are more fool than I thought. By the way, we upgraded your MI35 just to help those who are mentally handicapped.

who are the WE. SAAF or a private company making its livelihood?

Centrifude:
Wait so you're telling me that you helped with installing the upgrades by adding money a few cents into their bank account?

You said you would be helping your Neighbour install the ish.

Lol You do realise that there's a huge difference between helping someone install something and just paying them to do it.

I'm not helping with the menial Jobs when I've got the money, I pay you to serve my desires of-course, I've got other things to focus on like the 2 squadrons of JF-17 deliveries. Without my money, you would have a backlog of inventories which SAAF doesn't use, how else would you meet the demands of running your business? You should actually be grateful for my patronage because you need it.

On a more serious note, you guys should give credit to the private company for their ingenuity which achieved this, without any government input. i won't be surprised if this idea was pitched to the pot bellied generals of SANDF before throwing money down the drain on the Senseless Rooivalk scam.

The real heroes are the technicians at this company, they have my respect.

Centrifude:
No no no these are custom rims that came from your neighbour and were fitted by him, you didn't help. And those upgrades aren't accessories they are actually going to make the product perform better then before.

Lol the Apache is a Lamborghini and the fact that your Mi-35 needed and upgrade means it was nothing more than just an old school VW beetle.

No sir, i did help to keep his company running. Ever wondered why ATE which owns the upgrade tech was acquired by Paramount Advanced Technologies? The company needs customers like me to keep afloat seeing that the SAAF are not smart enough to spend with sense.

If the Rooivalk project got an international customer, the project would still be running by now, and we wouldn't be talking about shutting down development.

GreenandGold:
You're throwing words around in a panic attack....

- First, 11 Rooivalks are better than all your Hinds, they're ultramodern with ultramodern avionics.

- They can be fitted with fire-and-forget Makopas

- We don't care about the costs, 7Billion Rands ($700mil) was pumped into the program because we could and because we could afford doing so.

Now I'm sure you guys spend without foresight, if thats not the case then I don't know what is. Why would you spend a crazy amount of money on a non-sustainable venture and all you got from it was 11 helos? Same way you got Grippens without thinking of the pilots to fly them, sometimes I wonder if there's something in the water your decision makers drink.

$700 million has gone to corruption and a whole sovereign nation can only point to 11 helos, that's a record scandal spiced up with a huge dose of corruption.

mzilakazi:
Yep, because Rooivalk is stealth and hind is not. Rooivalk will notice your hind long before your hind can ever notice Rooivalk was there and by then, Boooooom!!! there goes Hind in a ball of fire.

And the hinds would stay idle while the Rooivalk shoots them out of the sky?


I thought you would put forward an intelligent argument, but i'm appalled at your assumptions.

Let me simplify it for you to understand that tactical warfare is not a game of one-sided assumptions. The Hinds are war tested and they have proven beyond reasonable doubt their capability. The Rooivalk on the other hand has only been used in a lopsided war against a ragtag rebel group, where the enemy doesn't have any capable aerial threat. Before a conflict between Nigeria and SA escalates to using the Helos, our fighter jets would have been scrambled to take out your non-existing tourist attraction Grippens and Rooivalks, while the Hinds would only come in for mop-up operations.

You are basing your assumptions on flawed premises like you are privy to the specifications of the Nigerian hinds. Just so you know, the hinds are not civilian hellos, and would know when there's a missile lock on it, with a capable counter measure in place.

You should be comparing the Hinds with the Apache's not an experimental Rooivalk only being operated by SA. You should be more worried about getting the parts for your 11 Rooivalks.

mzilakazi:
1 Rooivalk =5 Hinds. That's how your strength should be.

Because Rooivalk is stealth?....Please tell me you are joking.

GreenandGold:
- First, we don't need an upgrade because we don't use useless Hinds

- Second, how is the Rooivalk stalled? Its oparational and killing rebels in the DRC.

- Third, the SANDF has a higher budget than your armed forces.

First. You don't use it because you are stuck with Rooivalk

Second. Picture this:

11 Rooivalk vs 22 Hinds.

The hinds would be using your pilots as target practice, meanwhile no Grippen pilots to help out(They are still in training, should be ready in 20 years time). The available pilots have no experience of real wars.

Third. Higher budget doesn't mean better capability, $40million for Rooivalk? Are your frigging kidding me!!!
When I can get:
- A faster Hind for $12 million
- A JF-17 Thunder $20 million
and still have $8 million for armaments.

Please don't make me laugh.