Hndholder:
House not settle but I have sent in

Ok sir. That's good.

Hndholder:
I promised

any update?

This leads to another question. Why is it that it is only hausas that prepare and sell suya? Why can't we see ibo, yoruba, efik, ijaw, urhobor, or edo suya sellers?

The minimum age for people with ND/NCE and trades men/women that want to join the Navy or Air Force is 25. I don't know why that of the Army should be different. People should be enlisted based on their skills and fitness and not age. My own opinion.

Hndholder:
We already set up a committee.

Pls still help us send ur contribution to the secretary.

Hndholder:
Nigeria is actually loosing out. After my HND imaging where and what I should have contributed. But came out to show what I am capable of doing.

Pls sir, send ur contribution to the public hearing. I believe it will really help.

Oluwalala:
All this degrees yet she can't construct a single sentence properly worse of all she lacks decorum, it safe to say she passed through the school the school didn't pass her. Why her profile is on front page baffles mi, is this also part of the election propaganda

She doesn't look like a mathematician. Mathematicians are smarter than what we have been seeing in her. I doubt if her brain can handle Real analysis and Differential Equation. She probably read Arithmetic.

Hndholder:
Albert Einstein, the world’s most renowned physicist and one of the most influential thinkers of all time, graduated from the Zurich Polytechnic (now called the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, Zurich) in 1900 with a diploma in mathematics and physics.

Thank God for him. If to say na Nigeria him do that Diploma, discrimination for no let people know am.

Hndholder:
Case was adjourn for further hearing and presentation of facts. There must be a claim

Na wa o!

Hndholder:
Court Commence Hearing On HND/B.Sc Dichotomy Today

The National Industrial Court in Abuja will today commence hearing in the suit filed by holders of Higher National Diploma in Public Service challenging their discrimination in career progression in public service. Justice Babatunde Adejumo had in July ordered the office of the Head of Service of the Federation (HOSF), the National Council on Establishments and the Attorney General of the Federation (AGF) to file their reply on the originating summons brought by the claimants. The claimants: Garba Bello, Babatunde Samuel, Jubril Kadiri, Christiana Owolabi, Chuba Umechukwu and Fatima Ahmed on behalf of members of the association want the court to make an order directing the defendants to implement the federal government White Paper abolishing the dicho-tomy between HND and their B.Sc counterparts and consolidating emoluments in the public sector. HND holders face discrimination in terms of promotion in organisations. We called on the Federal government to put an end to the B.Sc/HND inequality in the country

What's the outcome of today's hearing? Can u brief us sir?

mowah:

Forget about lucrativity. let's now look at their salary scale
Mass com/journalism- N70,000-N700,000
law- N100,000-N1.5m
nurse- N80,000-N400,000
lab scientists- N90,000-N560,000
mech engr- N120,000-,N800,000
elect engr-N290,000- N1.1m
economics- N160.000-N607,000
accounting- N250000-N1m
computer programmer- N300,000- N1.2m
geologist- N280,000-N900,000
chem/pet engineering- N305,000- N1.7m
estate management- N500,000-N1.8m
medical Doctors- N200,000-N1.3m

source?

Hndholder:
Court Commence Hearing On HND/B.Sc Dichotomy Today

The National Industrial Court in Abuja will today commence hearing in the suit filed by holders of Higher National Diploma in Public Service challenging their discrimination in career progression in public service. Justice Babatunde Adejumo had in July ordered the office of the Head of Service of the Federation (HOSF), the National Council on Establishments and the Attorney General of the Federation (AGF) to file their reply on the originating summons brought by the claimants. The claimants: Garba Bello, Babatunde Samuel, Jubril Kadiri, Christiana Owolabi, Chuba Umechukwu and Fatima Ahmed on behalf of members of the association want the court to make an order directing the defendants to implement the federal government White Paper abolishing the dicho-tomy between HND and their B.Sc counterparts and consolidating emoluments in the public sector. HND holders face discrimination in terms of promotion in organisations. We called on the Federal government to put an end to the B.Sc/HND inequality in the country

May God help us achieve success.

manutdadex:
you dont get my point, qbasic are tut to litlle kids, fortran we av beta, well advanced programing languages dan fortran. Imagine spending 4 yrs in skool and learning qbasic, fortran and python all tru 2 yrs...wen will u av time to learn beta languages like java,c++??

fortran for applications development is poor, but for high performance computing and scientific computing is excellent. I don't think there is a better alternative for these purposes.

Let all polytechnic stakeholders come out in mass whether physically or online and support the removal of this discrimination. If the Nigerian HND is not equivalent to a Bsc how comes it is respected by many european countries and the US and its holders are given direct masters admission without going thru the PGD route? That's a good question to ask.

manutdadex:
so also qbasic! What abt mathlab?

All these were either developed from fortran or related to fortran.

@manutdadex: fortran is still very much useful and still in use today for numerical computing and high performance computing. It is still the best language for solving and modeling scientific and mathematical problems very accurately. The only disadvantage of fortran is that it cannot be used for developing applications, rather it is used for problem solving. U can google to find out more.

What kind of software are we talking about here? Application software or Operating system software? Well, let's try it and see. #TeamMicrosoftandIBMsoftware#

Let all stakeholders submit their contributions. Let public opinion be used pls. The embarrassment Hnd holders face in Nigeria is too much.

Hndholder:
In the Holy book, the world rejected Jesus (YISA) and embrace Barnabers known to be useless to progress. Degree holders are now doing the work once described as middle level job. Everything about our life now come from CHINA. We need to fight back.Polytechnics have made a name for themselves by providing sound, relevant and affordable education. They are best known for preparing students for industry with a wide range of diploma programmes which take between one and three years of full-time study to complete ND.
Polytechnic graduates are considered well-equipped and ready to support the technological and economic development. Today, polytechnic graduates are valued as practical-oriented and knowledgeable professionals, much sought after by industry.
I join every body to reject HND and support the call to cancel polytechnic if the government chose to do that.

I also support the abolishment of polytechnic education in Nigeria if the discrimination cannot be stopped.

Chucks08:
Statistics! You are sure of working almost any where with a good pay.

yes o, and u can always work for urself as a consultant statistician providing statistical support and training for researchers.

Hndholder:
We are meeting but I am tired of this round about situation. The court case is waiting come November 3rd at ABUJA

God will see us through, amen.

Statistics

Hndholder:
It is so bad to see our university graduates searching for job. People that do not have reasons to go to university had degrees because of discriminations. Polytechnic was not designed for the weak. Nigeria do not want Polytechnic education.

The most painful part of it is that most of the law makers including David Mark do not know the purpose for which polytechnics were established. Some of them were saying that polytechnics were running courses that are not science and technology related like accounting and business. They don't even know that the act that establised polytechnics in Nigeria empowered them to run courses in science, technology and business related fields. We are waiting for the outcome of public opinion.

kayusbrown:

That's some good news. We hope the bill will eventually become a law. There is also a case in the Industrial Court on the issue.

The thing narrowly scaled through. Even David Mark himself that knows nothing about education was against it. He only used style to refer it to senate committee on education and public opinion.

The issue scaled for second reading in the house of senate today.

Hndholder:
This issue is policy of hatred that sink countries that are not wise like NIGERIA. A good debate that holds no water

i pray the govt settles the issue. It's really killing Nigeria.

We have all these and yet still find it hard to conquer boko haram? Officers and enlisted soldiers are killed daily like chicken. I've lost 5 of my good officer friends there. Let the govt stop playing politics with this boko haram issue and declare total war on them. Even during the Nigerian civil war, officers were not killed like this.

bukit05:
Cramming has been working for me since d days of Elijah. Pple who claim to read and understand ask dem dt same question after exam, dey won't be able to say anytin

Not true. People who read to understand can explain and apply concepts outside the words/notes/handouts of the lecturers because they consult other books for more understanding, while those that cram can give u the lecturers notes/handouts word for word butwill not be able to attempt questions outside that scope because of their limited understanding. They only dwell on the lecturer's notes/handouts and hence find it difficult to attend to applied questions from other sources. They can get good grades especially from lecturers who love students giving them their exact words. Cramming is only helpful on topics or things that are not applied like theorems and proofs. I read M&S and i'm talking from experience. Both methods are actually useful to students.

olupentane:
I will be taking an environmental statistics course next semester, and I am also required to make a presentation on
"Environmental Quality: Air, water and soil pollution" can someone please recommend a good book for this course? downloadable ebook preferred.
Thanks.

Try google.

Ayatullah:


VIOLENCE BEGETS VIOLENCE
I do not support 'Boko Haram' violence, yet I will not condone or accept any justification of extra-judicial killing of my fellow human beigns. Have you also watched on YouTube at the onset of this 'Boko Haram' insurgency where some so-called members of the 'Boko Haram' were made to lie down and sprayed with bullets with a Police Officer saying HE NEEDS THE HEART of one of the boys or have you watched the recent video released by the International Human right group showing soldiers slaughtering human beings?

your name has said it all. U're a sympathizer of boko haram. U're even justifying d brutal manner in which BH slaughter humans like rams. Any right thinking person should condemn d actions of BH and not helping them to justify their inhumanity to man.

olayinka63:

do you think renovation of a room cost lesser amount pls #400,000 is not much for all what the woman listed she did go and price each one you will know afterall she didnt request for refund

She's indirectly asking for a refund with interest.

N400,000? Is it not too much for renovating a classroom? Abi na hall or new school she build?