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 Politics › Re: Jonathan Launches First Nigerian-Built Drone by zebra(m): 11:54am On Dec 18, 2013 |
Thank GOD. The drone was built by engineers and technologists in the Air Force institute of technology. The school is a military-styled polytechnic that runs ND and HND in aeronautical technology disciplines. Later some people will say polytechnics are not good and inferior. How many universities can come up with such? |
| Education › Re: Why The Discrimination Between Hnd Holders And Bsc Holders by zebra(m): 8:32pm On Dec 17, 2013 |
I worked in the IT department of a nigerian commercial bank as a system/database administrator. I had engineers, technologists and technicians as colleagues. U see engineers even doing the job of technicians and some technicians trying to be engineers. Nobody cares. |
| Education › Re: Why The Discrimination Between Hnd Holders And Bsc Holders by zebra(m): 8:23pm On Dec 17, 2013 |
tosnat: Yeah yeah...I'm a Statistician. |
| Education › Re: Why The Discrimination Between Hnd Holders And Bsc Holders by zebra(m): 6:13pm On Dec 17, 2013 |
tosnat: Six lines and absolutely splendid... But when will this work out in Nigeria?That's the issue. Things are done haphazardly here in nigeria, and that's the reason for the discrimination against technologists. If things were working or done rightly in nigeria nobody will have a reason to discriminate against anyone, because he/she would know already the different function of each. In nigeria i've seen engineers playing the roles of technologist and vice versa, which is wrong. |
| Education › Re: Why The Discrimination Between Hnd Holders And Bsc Holders by zebra(m): 12:27pm On Dec 17, 2013 |
@tosnat: Yes, engineers are theoretical scientists, while technologists are applied scientists. The engineers do research and come up with designs, while technologists implement the design by carefully bringing out the design according to the engineer's specification. They both play complimentary roles. |
| Education › Re: Why The Discrimination Between Hnd Holders And Bsc Holders by zebra(m): 8:38am On Dec 17, 2013 |
The problem of polytechnics in nigeria is the name of the certificate they award (HND) and not the syllabus they use. If the name of the qualification were BTech there would not be any discrimination. That is why the govt needs to change it from HND to BTech. Science and Technology are pari pasu, no one of them is superior/inferior to the other. The problem of nigeria is that engineers want to occupy positions meant for technologists and vice versa. |
| Education › Re: Why The Discrimination Between Hnd Holders And Bsc Holders by zebra(m): 12:35pm On Dec 16, 2013*. Modified: 8:30am On Dec 17, 2013 |
tosnat: @zebra.. What about M.Eng with HND...what's its cons relative to B.Eng with M.eng?...please shed light.HND holders and Bsc holders are quite different in training. The idea behind engineering and engineering technology are also different. That is not to say that one is inferior to the other. MEng programs are advanced theoretical engineering programs and are also available for technologists in engineering to further increase their knowledge in engineering technology. Nigerian HND holders have been able to progress to even PhD in engineering in countries like US and UK. U can google about engineering technology and read for urself. There is no discrimination btw engineering and engineering technology in terms of job placement and career progression btw both. Technologists have a critical role to play in engineering and are able to get to the zenith of their careers. They have their own career path which is equivalent to dat of the engineers. Engineering is science while engineering technology is applied engineering. Engineers must work with the technologists to be able to achieve the purpose of engineering. They are not in anyway inferior to engineers. The two compliment each other. Without the technologists no meaningful engineering design can be implemented. |
| Education › Re: Why The Discrimination Between Hnd Holders And Bsc Holders by zebra(m): 5:07pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
I'm yet to see an empirical evidence that shows that the Bsc syllabus is better than that of HND or that Bsc graduates are better than HND graduates. Yet people come out to say what they assume is supposed to be d case. |
| Education › Re: Why The Discrimination Between Hnd Holders And Bsc Holders by zebra(m): 4:53pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
@Francomekus: I had to do a Bsc because of the lack of recognition of the HND certificate and the discrimination against holders of HND in nigeria and not because there was no quality in what i learnt in d poly. |
| Education › Re: Why The Discrimination Between Hnd Holders And Bsc Holders by zebra(m): 3:01pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
Francomekus: you will call it naive becos you are in poly. Mind you " It is not the quality of the desired object that gives us pleasure, but rather the energy of our appetites' and our appetites for university is greater than that of poly ( ask your fellow poly students). mind you also that poly has to do with the practical aspect and university has to do with theorytical aspect. someone who read engineering in poly is called a TECHNOLOGIST while someone who read it in university is called an ENGINEER. So Bsc and HND are not the same. i might be naive but you are selfish, thinking about how something will benefit only you. my poly friend told me plain that Bsc and HND cant be the same. Menh think straight 4 once.Point of correction, i'm not a student. I passed thru both systems. I have done ND, HND, and Bsc. I have tasted both schools and can tell u d difference better. Mind u, engineers can do nothing in engineering without the technologists. They compliment the job of d engineers. In d UK, they don't discriminate; engineers and technologist are at par salary wise. 1 Like 2 Shares |
| Education › Re: Why The Discrimination Between Hnd Holders And Bsc Holders by zebra(m): 12:05pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
Justosaus: Coke & pepsi na the same? U can't compare a 3yr HND course with a 4, or 5yr B.Sc. The admission & financial requirements, years of study, etc. Forget the facts that our universities are dilapidated, the polytechs aren't any better off. |
| Education › Re: Why The Discrimination Between Hnd Holders And Bsc Holders by zebra(m): 12:04pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
Justosaus: Coke & pepsi na the same? U can't compare a 3yr HND course with a 4, or 5yr B.Sc. The admission & financial requirements, years of study, etc. Forget the facts that our universities are dilapidated, the polytechs aren't any better off.This shows how uninformed u are about d nigerian polytechnic system. Polytechnic students in nigeria spend 5 years to get HND certificate. They are given ND after the first 2 years, then they go for one year industrial training, before coming back to spend another 2 years to get HND. The admission requirements are the same with that of the university (5 O' level credits with maths and english). What else again? |
| Education › Re: Why The Discrimination Between Hnd Holders And Bsc Holders by zebra(m): 9:22am On Dec 15, 2013 |
valdprof: stop being pretentious . Someone could get 250 in jamb and yet would not be admitted in a uni , while another manchi that scored 160 or less would be admitted so easily in a poly..,. THAT ACCOUNTS FOR BSC-HND DICHOTOMYYes, that's why u spend more years in the poly before getting HND, but that doesn't imply an inferiority in what they are taught, and the knowledge/skills they acquire. |
| Education › Re: Why The Discrimination Between Hnd Holders And Bsc Holders by zebra(m): 8:49pm On Dec 14, 2013 |
Francomekus: ppl say that HND and Bsc should be same, should also help me tell government to make Bsc and Msc the same.what a naive post. 1 Like |
| Education › Re: Why The Discrimination Between Hnd Holders And Bsc Holders by zebra(m): 12:17pm On Dec 14, 2013 |
HND in nigeria is equivalent to a Bsc by virtue of years spent in the school to obtain it and the content of the syllabus. The difference btw the two is that the HND has a technical bias which the degree lacks. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Education › Re: FG Reaction On ASUP Strike In Polytechnics by zebra(m): 9:33am On Dec 11, 2013 |
Any latest on asup/fg on the strike? |
| Islam › Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by zebra(m): 1:52pm On Dec 05, 2013 |
Let them come and destroy the breweries and beer in kaduna, that is when they will get an answer to the question they've been asking us. |
| Career › Re: Nigerian Statisticians/Analysts Forum by zebra(m): 7:49am On Dec 03, 2013 |
Dcoolest: Wow!!!......am happy dat thr is a thread like dis......but am scared cos al here are experts, either graduates or undergraduates.....Not really tough, but interesting. Just be focused. |
| Islam › Re: Sharia Police Smash Bottles Of Beer In Kano by zebra(m): 10:33am On Nov 28, 2013 |
Let the sellers and consumers relocate to kaduna. Beer is sold and consumed very well in kaduna with two functioning breweries. Leave kano state and their laws since even the FG are not taking any action on the issue. |
| Career › Re: What Certified Professional Courses Can A Bsc Statistics Student Need?? by zebra(m): 8:22am On Nov 27, 2013 |
Idacrux: Tnx bro. But cant I go Ican,Niit among others.you can. But if u want to practice statistics then go for RSS and get a CStat status. |
| Career › Re: What Certified Professional Courses Can A Bsc Statistics Student Need?? by zebra(m): 8:56am On Nov 25, 2013 |
Try and be a chartered statistician. For now there is no functional statistical body in Nigeria that can make u certified or chartered in statistics. Join the Royal Statistical Society (RSS) of the UK. U can google it to see what it takes to join. |
| Career › Re: Discussion Forum For Mathematicians, Statisticians And Actuarial Scientists. by zebra(m): 11:01am On Nov 24, 2013 |
There are no jobs for mathematician, statisticians, and actuarial scientists in nigeria. Let's get tips from professionals on how mathematicians/statisticians, and actuarial scientists can create jobs for themselves. 1 Like |
| Car Talk › Re: Nigeria Women Cant Drive! by zebra(m): 4:06pm On Oct 31, 2013 |
What i've noticed about most women driving (not all women o!) is that they hardly use their trafficator lights when they want to change lanes. 2 Likes |
| Food › Re: Palm Oil Stew Or Vegetable Oil Stew: Which Do You Prefer? by zebra(m): 8:37am On Oct 31, 2013 |
[quote author=Mazi_Omenuko]Especially the used ones. They are dark and rich.[/quote]Funny! Crazy fellows! |
| Politics › Re: Oduah: We’re Shocked – Kinsmen by zebra(m): 1:09pm On Oct 26, 2013 |
Promhize: Ode what have u done about FFK who stole billions?And we are always quick at pointing fingers to northerners being the ones spoiling the country. FFK is also from the south. 1 Like |
| Health › Re: 8 Health Benefits Of Red Wine by zebra(m): 5:08pm On Oct 14, 2013 |
Patdedon: #TeamVinoTinto#Yeah! That's my team too. |
| Islam › Re: Muslims and Christians Unite Against Terrorism in Pakistan by zebra(m): 12:21pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
ariseandshine: Any unity that is not based on the Word of God (The Holy Bible) is a false unity and will not stand.They are all one through faith in Christ Jesus. There is neither jew nor greek, slave nor free, male nor female, circumcised nor uncircumcised. They are all heirs to Abraham's blessings through faith in Christ Jesus. Check the new testament Bible. |
| Education › Re: The Truth About Why ASUU Refuse To Call Off The Strike... by zebra(m): 6:47am On Oct 06, 2013 |
kaka22: @zebra...I disagree with what u said. We must invest heavily in pry,secondary and tertiary education... In pry and secondary schools, students are only taught the basics. It is only when u get tertiary education that u will be taught more than the basics I.e a place where u can be mentally emancipated so if we can invest heavily in pry, secondary and tertiary education, boko haram will become thing of the past... Also, there should be employment opportunitiesDo we have good basic education in Nigeria? |
| TV/Movies › Re: DStv Raises Charges Again. by zebra(m): 6:00pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
#Team StarTimes# All the way! 1 Like |
| Education › Re: The Truth About Why ASUU Refuse To Call Off The Strike... by zebra(m): 5:31pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
[quote author=kak It should be noted that before we can overcome the menace posed by boko haram, we must invest heavily in educational sectors so as eliminate recruiting ground of boko haram... I rest my case for now[/quote]Yes, we must invest heavily in education and not university education. Education at the primary and secondary levels are what need urgent funding and equipments. U must build a solid foundation before the walls and roof of a building can be firm. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Death Of Church Members: How Does Your Church React? by zebra(m): 3:32pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
dejijohns: ECWA is nw Evangelical Church For Winning AllEvangelical Church Winning All. |
| Politics › Re: Army Jets Bomb Boko-Haram Camps After College Massacre by zebra(m): 11:56am On Oct 04, 2013 |
@OP: Pls correct the title of the thread. They are Air Force jets and not Army jets. Nigerian Army don't own or use fighter jets; it is the Air Force that own and use fighter jets. We understand the message though. |
