₦airaland Forum

Kairoseki77: I love how you people always forget that PDP has far more Northerners in it than APC.

yes, u're right. Bamanga Tukur is a core northerner.

berem: ASUU is not the only problem facing Nigeria but funding education should be of great concern.You cannot pretend to deny the fact that there's an absolute rot and decay in the education sector.If ASUU makes a demand to restore back the sector,why should they be denied of their demands? FG has the money so they should pay it.An agreement is always an agreement!

It is not just the university sub-sector alone that needs to be improved, it is the educational sector as a whole from primary to university. Can't we also see that even goverment owned primary schools, secondary schools, technical/vocational colleges, polytechnics, colleges of education, colleges of agric, etc all need this funding and attention ASUU are asking for? Or they think government owned primary and secondary schools are well funded and equipped? Teachers in the primary and secondary schools should be the ones asking for better funding and equipments more than those at the tertiary level. Greed has entered into the minds of ASUU members. Pls let's be frank with ourselves, between the primary/secondary schools and the tertiary schools, who need bettter funding and equipments? No matter how beautiful a building is, it is rubbish if it's foundation is weak and sinking. Let government concentrate more on making the foundation ok than the body of the building. I'm saying nigerian universities churn out half-baked graduates as a result of the rubbish students recieved at the basic level. China,japan, malaysia, brazil, to mention a few did not develop because they invested more on university education, but because they paid more attention to basic education, and technical/vocational education. Government should be bold enough to tell ASUU this.

berem: ASUU is not the only problem facing Nigeria but funding education should be of great concern.You cannot pretend to deny the fact that there's an absolute rot and decay in the education sector.If ASUU makes a demand to restore back the sector,why should they be denied of their demands? FG has the money so they should pay it.An agreement is always an agreement!

It is not just the university sub-sector alone that needs to be improved, it is the educational sector as a whole from primary to university. Can't we also see that even goverment owned primary schools, secondary schools, technical/vocational colleges, polytechnics, colleges of education, colleges of agric, etc all need this funding and attention ASUU are asking for? Or they think government owned primary and secondary schools are well funded and equipped? Teachers in the primary and secondary schools should be the ones asking for better funding and equipments more than those at the tertiary level. Greed has entered into the minds of ASUU members. Pls let's be frank with ourselves, between the primary/secondary schools and the tertiary schools, who need bettter funding and equipments? No matter how beautiful a building is, it is rubbish if it's foundation is weak and sinking. Let government concentrate more on making the foundation ok than the body of the building. I'm saying nigerian universities churn out half-baked graduates as a result of the rubbish students recieved at the basic level. China,japan, malaysia, brazil, to mention a few did not develop because they invested more on university education, but because they paid more attention to basic education, and technical/vocational education. Government should be bold enough to tell ASUU this.

berem: ASUU is not the only problem facing Nigeria but funding education should be of great concern.You cannot pretend to deny the fact that there's an absolute rot and decay in the education sector.If ASUU makes a demand to restore back the sector,why should they be denied of their demands? FG has the money so they should pay it.An agreement is always an agreement!

It is not just the university sub-sector alone that needs to be improved, it is the educational sector as a whole from primary to university. Can't we also see that even goverment owned primary schools, secondary schools, technical/vocational colleges, polytechnics, colleges of education, colleges of agric, etc all need this funding and attention ASUU are asking for? Or they think government owned primary and secondary schools are well funded and equipped? Teachers in the primary and secondary schools should be the ones asking for better funding and equipments more than those at the tertiary level. Greed has entered into the minds of ASUU members. Pls let's be frank with ourselves, between the primary/secondary schools and the tertiary schools, who need bettter funding and equipments? No matter how beautiful a building is, it is rubbish if it's foundation is weak and sinking. Let government concentrate more on making the foundation ok than the body of the building. I'm saying nigerian universities churn out half-baked graduates as a result of the rubbish students recieved at the basic level. China,japan, malaysia, brazil, to mention a few did not develop because they invested more on university education, but because they paid more attention to basic education, and technical/vocational education. Government should be bold enough to tell ASUU this.

Nizstephen: ok so how do I go about it in the best way if I wanna go 4 a masters in research and statistical analyses wat will it be called asin would it be information research or what?

U can do the Msc Statistics, which is also theoretical. U can from there begin to apply statistical methods to solving real life problems and in supporting research in the scientific, business, marketing, economic, political, social and biotechnology fields. Most applied statisticians work with researchers where they provide statistical support in form of designing experiments and analysing high dimensional data/interpretation of results.

Nizstephen: kool to know u a statistician am also studyn statistics but I wish to go into computational statistics or information research since you a graduate can I gt ur take on it

Why not just stick to research and statistical analyses? It's more applied than computational statistics. Computational statistics is more of theory. U spend all ur time developing/writing statistical algorithms.

Nizstephen: Currently studying statistics and I hope 2 combine my statistical knowledge in the computer sector (computational statistics) currently thinking of working with softwares(SAS) that are statistical in nature to solve problems in diff aspect of life even in business. Am still thinking of more things to embark on when I graduate, but major areas 4 now are *computational statistics and *information research

Good! Try and be a research/statistical analyst so that u can work with other scientists in the area of experimental design and analyses.

Does the curfew include kagoro town? Use to love kagoro hills. Been there once for newyear festival. Joined up for a picnic at the kagoro waterboard area at the foot of the mountain. Enough palmwine there! May God take control of the situation.

Does this ultimatum also affect Mujahid Asari Dokubo? He is also a muslim. Na wa o.

booqee: i learnt recently dat indigenes of southern kaduna are actually not hausa, tho they can be able to speak the language, but they have their own language and culture different from d the hausas and majority of them are christians, and most of them bear english names as against native names. #just saying sha

U're correct. They share similarities with plateau and nasarawa state people.

Hero10001: O Kafanchan City! my sweet Play-ground!!
Why na??
I served (NYSC) 2011/12 in Kagoro area of South Kaduna which is a few km from Kafanchan,.

I can confirm that the major problem there is caused by HAUSA-FULANI men cos
South Kaduna including Kafanchan is a full-Christian area.
However, I enjoyed my service year in there; (Lagos boy na)
"Dog meat" on mondays@ Mallagun. Bussa drink on Tuesdays@ Samaru. Burukutu and Palm-wine on wednesdays after CDS,@ Tum.
Pork meat on Thursdays@ Tunga.
Night-Clubbing on Fridays@ New-world hotels.
Sundays?!! Winners Chapel@ Kagoro.

There are security men at every junction(ARMY n Police)
but there's always tension of FULANI-HAUSA men arriving anytime through the bushes.
We normally sleep with "one eye open" and always good to go in a 7/7 dressing(not like Lagos otondos)..
I always move around with My lagos fares cos e fit happen anytime.
I thank God i came back to Lag safely.
Dunno when to visit North again.
Anyways R.i.p to the dead..

na wa 4 u.

nerodenero: A fermented kunu = alcohol

Yes. It's equal to burukutu.

Archmed: This fight needs to be fought once and for all.The insensitivity of dis government to d masses' plight is outta this world!! People need to see reasons ASUU's way!!

I fail to see reasons with ASUU. Most of our nigerian lecturers are unproductive. If they are that good and productive we ought to have been seeing the results. It's high time the govt stopped pallying with them. They can bring down the economy of nigeria to the lowest level with their demands. What about the foundations, i mean primary and secondary school teachers? Are these schools not also lacking equipments? Between the foundation and roof of a building, which should we pay more attention to? A beg make ASUU let nigerians hear word jo. Imagine lecturers complaining of obsolete equipments and facilities in the universities when they themselves have obsolete knowledge, and have refused to update their brains with modern knowledge and ideas. In the Uk, US, and other countries lecturers especially Doctors and Profs earn the bulk of their pay through consultancy services they provide to govt and private sector and not by relying or holding govt to ransome. Good Doctors and Profs see beyond the salaries they earn from lecturing/teaching.

[quote author=LU-PUNNY Media]Maybeyou should google it. Or check Wikipedia. No time to educate[/quote]I just used Google now and wikipedia is saying that kwara state was one of the states that was created out of the defunct northern region by Gen. Gowon, along side benue-plateau state, kano state, north central state, north east state, north west state in 1967. Thank u sir.

LU-PUNNY Media
Besides, Kwara was part of western Nigeria during Regionalism....before they splitted everywhere in Geopolitical zones whatever! @poster: Bros i disagree with this part of ur epistle. U may need to read ur history and geography books again. The area called KWARA state today has always been part of the north. Even when nigeria had just 3 regions, kwara was in the northern region.

micdmic: sorry for Nigeria.kwara state is divided into central,north and south,central is 99.9% muslim,north is 99.9%muslim and south is 80%muslim,so from d percentage you can see that kwara is a muslim dominated state,so i think d government is more than fair in the appointments given to non muslim.are the muslims complaining in Ekiti,they shouldn't cos they know its a christian dominated state,so CAN should please leave Kwara out of this.Kwara is a state that respects every religion.

Take it easy with ur statistics. Even muslim dominated countries like syria, egypt, saudi arabia, iraq etc. would not make such claims. Pls reduce the figure small; 99.9% is not ok here.

anex4real: No you are wrong seventy percent of kwara state are yorubas am from kwara so I know.

It still doesn't change the fact that kwara state is in the north central, and a member state of the 19 northern states. Past and present governors have been very active members of northern governors forum. Or does kwara state governor attend south-west governors forum meeting? The state from what i know comprises of the yoruba tribe as majority, and other smaller tribes like bussa, gambari and fulani.

Horus: Justice was served

Have u also asked urself why it is always served to the poor? Why was it not served to Faruk Lawan in the NASS? There was also a video evidence and yet nothing was done.

smoosh15: She laugh me when i enter Polytechnic, i laugh her when she still dey 200level when i dey write my project for HND.. #Shikena

She will laugh longest when discrimation of HND finally catches up with you in the civil service or private sector. I wish u well sha.

shumax: the nigerian army like all other Amies in the wolrd have hotels which they call Command Hotels. you are the confused and dump person

Thanx bro! Help me tell dem.

shumax: Must you comment? your level is ignorance is amazing all over the world the military have business and leisure activities they engage in for you information every army as part of its professionalism must have every type of profession in its employ that is why some years ago when civil servants in the UK threathened to go on strike the govt as the army to get ready to take over the positions, hisssssssssss

Yes, i agree with you. Even in Nigeria, some years ago, when Medical Doctors went on strike, military medical personnels took over in some govt owned hospitals to save lives. When civil Air traffic controllers went on strike, the air force air traffic controllers took over the control of air traffic. Back to the biz of generating funds by the military, they've been in it right from colonial era. The air force base ikeja mammy market, abacha barracks mammy market abuja, police cooperative market in obalende/ikoyi, and other mammy markets around the country? What do u think they set up all these for? It's for generation of income. So if they decide to build hotels, they're only expanding their scope of income generation. Mind you they are allowed to generate their own income so far it's in a legal way. I'm with u all the way bro!

Mavor: Look at all these clowns above me commending such rubbish. In a democratic republic, the military has no business being in private business such as being a hotelier. Of course only in a jungle like Nigeria can people applaud such madness.

I don't see this as a problem. One of the best clubs/hotels in kaduna (NAF Club) along Rabah/Katuru Road is owned by the Nigerian Air Force but run and managed by a professional hotel manager (Nanet Hotels Ltd). The Nigerian Army also have one of the best guest houses in kaduna, that is, Command Guest House along WAFF Road. It is also managed by professional hotel managers. It's very possible the hotel in Enugu will also be given out to hotel managers to handle. It's a good development.

Cajetan speaks: Since you said I don't know anything about statisticians' job. I will like you to enumerate these duties, lets dissect them individually. And mind you, the Statistician General of Nigeria and all his special advicers studied economics.

The Stat-General of Nigeria, Dr. Yemi Kale (PhD, FSS) holds a first class Bsc Degree in Econs and Distinction in Msc Econs. He is a Fellow of the Royal Statistical Society, United Kingdom. This qualifies him so well to be a Statistician. He is therefore an Economist and a Statistician.

oluwa mikkie: Get d hell out of here, na only them dey? Wey they go give them 500 billion. Are they d only sector in dis country?

i wonder o! We get other sectors wey their problems and neglet pass university own. Even ASUP problem sef pass ASUU own, and yet dem mellow down call of dem strke. Make ASUU let nigerian people hear word jo.

zaimeg: Thanks for your contribution, I already do these things you mentioned. I have an income. I am not all about just getting any job. I did a DSA job with a bank until November last year. It is all about career pursuit, not money to survive. I still enjoy building electronic water tank monitors for people and getting paid. Maybe I should change the topic.

That means u even have a job. U don't need to look for a job that they won't pay u. Why should u be looking for a job that they will not be paying u? Did u go to school for free?. Pls change the name of the topic.

That's a good one. But why not start something that will make u self-employed on a small scale first? Something that can atleast put food on ur table? U're an elect/elect engineer, why not learn little things like handset repairs and configuration, laptop and desktop repairs and configuration, including software installation. Honestly with u engineering background u would do well in it. If u can be verygood in it then people will patronize u well, and u will make money, and probably expand the scope of the business. Stop waiting for white collar jobs that no longer come easily.

One of the biggest set backs in the Nigerian educational system is ASUU. They should be ashamed of themselves for helping the country to churn out low quality graduates. In the area of research they have also failed. Dr Issah Fagge should be asked how many quality and sensible research he has done in the past 10 years? Bunch of greedy employees!

KenGali: My friend will you shut the hell up, you are full of knowledge yet can't assimilate a simple idea of change.



Nobody failed to realize there will be increase in fees, that is the essence of student loans to pay the fees. Government will not be funding people, but will be guaranteeing their loans. There is no issue of reversal.

There are several areas this is going to touch on by its implication.
1. Issue of Over production of Bachelors:
Only people who are really interested in design work will train for Bachelors. The employers will also be forced to review there demands for Bachelor holders. Hence moving towards the mid skilled manpower (2 years degrees) we require for proper economic growth.

2. Higher Quality Training in the Long run
-When you remove excessive demand for Bachelors on both the side of employers and employees, you will force the Universities into competitions to stay alive. They will become innovative on how to improve and attract students who in this case are there clients and main source of funding.
-On the part of the student, if the school needs your money for funding, they become more responsive to your needs. They avoid strikes, change inefficient systems in order to avoid loosing you and your money. Your lecturers will see a direct link between how they teach you and their payment, hence abuses will be minimized.

3. Research: Instead of dishing out money to non-researching lecturers, Universities will be forced to fight for extra funding from research grants, hence will look to retain lecturers with relevant research prowess. This will improve the relevance and utility of trainings, churning out graduates with the right kind of new ideas and abilities that will create jobs that will employ the more massive population with 2 year degrees.

This is coming from a graduate that must ve done a critical analysis on the economy. Ur post is the most intelligent post on this topic. Bachelor's degree ve been bastardized in Nigeria, that's why graduates are employed to do jobs of primary school leavers. Govt should concentrate more on achieving quality primary and secondary education by introducing vocational subjects in the curriculum from primary level. Technical/ vocational secondary education should also be given attention and encouraged. Govt should also encourage more people to acquire middle level qualifications like ND and NCE by removing all forms of discrimination against them, so that they can effectively drive the economy, by so doing there will be less need for people to acquire Bsc degrees to get jobs, and we will have very few people wit bachelor's degrees. This will even improve the quality of the Bachelor's degree and the quality of the academic work work done in the university. Government really need to review our educational system and policies. I'm with u bro!

KenGali: My friend will you shut the hell up, you are full of knowledge yet can't assimilate a simple idea of change.



Nobody failed to realize there will be increase in fees, that is the essence of student loans to pay the fees. Government will not be funding people, but will be guaranteeing their loans. There is no issue of reversal.

There are several areas this is going to touch on by its implication.
1. Issue of Over production of Bachelors:
Only people who are really interested in design work will train for Bachelors. The employers will also be forced to review there demands for Bachelor holders. Hence moving towards the mid skilled manpower (2 years degrees) we require for proper economic growth.

2. Higher Quality Training in the Long run
-When you remove excessive demand for Bachelors on both the side of employers and employees, you will force the Universities into competitions to stay alive. They will become innovative on how to improve and attract students who in this case are there clients and main source of funding.
-On the part of the student, if the school needs your money for funding, they become more responsive to your needs. They avoid strikes, change inefficient systems in order to avoid loosing you and your money. Your lecturers will see a direct link between how they teach you and their payment, hence abuses will be minimized.

3. Research: Instead of dishing out money to non-researching lecturers, Universities will be forced to fight for extra funding from research grants, hence will look to retain lecturers with relevant research prowess. This will improve the relevance and utility of trainings, churning out graduates with the right kind of new ideas and abilities that will create jobs that will employ the more massive population with 2 year degrees.

This is coming from a graduate that must ve done a critical analysis on the economy. Ur post is the most intelligent post on this topic. Bachelor's degree ve been bastardized in Nigeria, that's why graduates are employed to do jobs of primary school leavers. Govt should concentrate more on achieving quality primary and secondary education by introducing vocational subjects in the curriculum from primary level. Technical/ vocational secondary education should also be given attention and encouraged. Govt should also encourage more people to acquire middle level qualifications like ND and NCE by removing all forms of discrimination against them, so that they can effectively drive the economy, by so doing there will be less need for people to acquire Bsc degrees to get jobs, and we will have very few people wit bachelor's degrees. This will even improve the quality of the Bachelor's degree and the quality of the academic work work done in the university. Government really need to review our educational system and policies. I'm with u bro!

segun4christ: Thank you so much my brother! Which institution are u and what level are u as well ?

I'm not a student. I'm a graduate of Statistics. I have my own firm where i work as a research consultant/statistician.

Funpeter: Have you done it? If yes, then how? And how far is the exam in lagos or where is the exam taken place? Tanks for your quick response

No, i've not done it, but i know about it. Just google their site and read. In Nigeria, Lagos is their exam center.

whatofyou: When manna falls from heaven into our camp, the tendency is for everyone to pack to his fill. Trouble comes quickly if only few are allowed to pack as much as they like from the abundance. FG cannot win this war by preaching something else and doing another. They cannot win this stalemate by telling ASUU to stop being greedy, yet they (FG) go about living big, teaching us how criminal it is to be poor in this age- we are all humans. ASUU has the ball in their court, and they do with it what they please.
ASUU, we the citizens will be wrong telling you that 'half a bread is better than none.' The road to the glory of our nation is rough-terrained. The foolish one sees nothing; the wise sees long-term.

If politics is easy let them leave their lecturing jobs and go join Ngige & co. After all Prof. Jerry Gana left his own in Geography Dept, ABU Zaria to join OBJ in 1999. Did u hear him complaining about govt not funding universities? Dr. Fagge pls call off this strike now; respect urselves. Is it because ur children are schooling in private universities and universities abroad? Pls pity the children of the masses.