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aoeforgod: 15yrs ? Yepa, all hail the grt statisticians. Pls I would like to av ur contact would like to ask you some questions.i worked in d banking sector for 8 yrs, left and working as a consultant statistician since 2011. |
aoeforgod: Yh he is bt av not received any lecture frm him.He was my lecturer in zaria 15 years ago. He's aged now. Very good in design of experiments. |
aoeforgod: Association of statistics students (ASSON) Funaab chapter. Proudly assoniteHow is Prof Asiribo? Is he still in FUNAAB? |
maryannah: Great Statisticians!!I just love figures! |
speedyboi: and he is not saying the truth! I just checked those courses and they looked like specialization courses for Agric Engineering! If i hear say someone did it in 200 level. 200level includes courses in 'General Engineering' picked from various departments and offered by every Engineering student in 200level - that's what you guys did in ND1.....perhaps. It's in 300l that the students go different ways and concentrate on their departments - And that's what that guy is doing in ND2.Thanx for saying the truth; though it's a bitter pill to swallow. |
Walexsammy: ...equivalent?.......lols, I tot we are talking abt HND here?, more ova am nt even talking of some courses we did in year 1ND2 is 200 levels in d polytechnic system. I did linear algebra in ND2 in poly and in d university i also did it in 200 levels. I did math mthds I in ND2 and also did same mth mthds I in 200 levels in the uni. |
Walexsammy: lols, everytin u did in ND 1 and 2, I did in jst my year 2 and ure still argueing?tell him the truth |
blink182: 50% from Nigeria, religion is big business in this country.No. Christianity is big biz in nigeria. |
Walexz02: you see your life? did I made mention that I took the courses during my hnd programmei'm tired of the bias posts i read here too. I wonder why some people cannot say the truth. |
speedyboi: First and foremost, Technologists do not work on field. Electricians and Technicians are not suppose to wire a house. Their job is to repair a damaged house wiring.Thanx for this truth. |
@ayobase: Universities in Nigeria train engineers while polytechnics train engineering technologists. The mandate of universities in Nigeria is to train engineers and not engineering technologists. Pls. |
ayobase: Federal University of TECHNOLOGY is am ENGINEERING school aight?U're still missing the point. Ur swep and siwes are to ensure u get practical training on design and not practical training on implementation of designs. U're not trained to operate machines and handle tools, the ND and HND holders are trained for that. Pls use google to see the difference btw engineering and engineering technology. Nawa o, another different argument again. |
Olril18: what a fool u are!!Stop insulting people. That's not the purpose of this thread. There are better and polite ways to express dissatisfaction or disagreeing with other peoples' opinions. |
Olril18: u are just contradicting urself..Where is d contradiction in my post? I hope u know what u're saying sha? |
ayobase: I'm disappointed in you. Sorry to say.Pls donot be disappointed in me yet. The poly HND guys are technologist (applied engineers) while the BEng guys are engineers (theoretical engineers or designers), how then do u expect the technologists not to be better than the engineers in hands-on practical work? Like some of u have agreed before, technologists are trained to work with their hands while also using their brains, while engineers use their brains to work on designs. Why then do u expect them not to be good on what they are trained on? What i know is that the university engineering guys do more maths courses than the poly guys, that's one of the major differences btw them. U can google to see the difference btw engineering and engineering technology urself. |
It's not too stressful to get a Bsc compared to HND in Nigeria. U always have less courses to do in d uni, especially in d final year compared to the polytechnics in Nigeria. Why? I'm talking from experience. I did 8 courses plus project in my HND final semester, while i did only 4 courses plus project in my Bsc final semester. Can someone else also confirm this? |
georgiobob: Ohhh naija, let us don't discourage HND holders, let HND holders learn from BSC holders and vice versa and either should develop themselves personally, and also improve the reading culture.Truth |
A lot of people today do not want polytechnic education not because it's not good, but because of the discrimination against it by university graduates. The main question is why are the university graduates always afraid of the polytechnic graduates? Where are they always quick to say that poly HND is not equivalent to a Degree, even when it was meant to be so? Why are poly HND graduates who are given the opportunity to compete with Degree holders always meet expectations of doing well? Why is it that Nigerian HND holders who are doing Masters programs in some foreign countries with their Nigerian Bsc holders are also doing well and coping with the programs? |
peter4d2: Hnd n bsc can neva be on d same level cos sum pple claim 2 hv had d priviledge of attendin both n still feel dat their OND rather HNd is far beta dan their degrees. My 1st year in school,we did a course called GNS 103 sociology n treated a topic also slated functionality d reason bin dat there must alwayz be an hieracy in all spheres of lyf like why a senator must earn n drive beta cars than its counterpart house of reps followin same way, why a professor must earn n drive beta cars too than a doctor lukin @ d education system but here u want 2 b treated with d same level has a degree holder hnd folks get real its is inevitable truth we r far beta n rwcongnised.Recognized for what? For developing the country technologically? Pls we care to know. |
aydrees09: Does any poly offer Law ?Yes, Diploma in Law. Hassan Usman Polytechnic, katsina. |
gbengress1: After running through several posts on this topic, some things were crystal clear;Point of correction, the OP holds HND and Bsc in statistics. |
gbengress1: After running through several posts on this topic, some things were crystal clear; |
I think without an empirical evidence we will never get to the end of this. There is a difference btw what the poly and varsity learn or teach, agreed. But is this difference significant? That should be the basis. Now let's do a statistical test to establish if the difference btw HND and Bsc is significant enough to say that the HND is not up to the level of a Bsc. Let someone list all the courses from year 1 in say mech engineering to year 5 and all courses from ND1 to HND2 in mech eng'ng also. Let's also do same for accounting, then statistics. Atleast all these courses are offered in both poly and uni in nigeria. We can compare and later test for significance. How do u guys see it? I can help with courses in Bsc statistics and ND/HND Statistics. Who else can help out in mech eng, and accounting? From what i experienced in statistics in both schools, the difference is mostly in the pure maths courses taken. Uni do more maths courses while the poly do more stats courses. Infact there are some stats courses we didn't do inthe Bsc stats program but did in the HND Stats program. Funny as it may sound i had a Doctor and a prof as part time lecturers when i was in the polytechnic. |
I think without an empirical evidence we will never get to the end of this. There is a difference btw what the poly and varsity learn or teach, agreed. But is this difference significant? That should be the basis. Now let's do a statistical test to establish if the difference btw HND and Bsc is significant enough to say that the HND is not up to the level of a Bsc. Let someone list all the courses from year 1 in say mech engineering to year 5 and all courses from ND1 to HND2 in mech eng'ng also. Let's also do same for accounting, then statistics. Atleast all these courses are offered in both poly and uni in nigeria. We can compare and later test for significance. How do u guys see it? |
destino24: I guess it sounds too difficult to be possible at that level, huh? Well, it's trueTake it easy guy! Engineering students do algebra in 100 levels and not advanced algebra. |
rckdude: I doubt if he knows. That guy dey fall HND holders hand jare.He told u guys he was a given a direct MS in the US with his HND, and u're asking him of PGD. He meant that he didn't have to do a PGD. |
Soyedele1: Mr Zebra, Na Fight? I guess You dont have Prof to lecture youWho dey fight who here? Sorry i'm 99% sure i went to the university before u, so why shld i feel any pains? |
rckdude: Then I guess it won't be hard for you to state your school, faculty and department. Would it?No mind that big liar. No be only 15 profs, na 51. |
rckdude: What university did u attend? I graduated from unilag; accounting, I was taught by just 2 profs, one just became a prof dt same year he taught us and I can count the number of times they came to class. We had more lecture 1 and 2 as our lecturers. We had no qualified lecturer to teach us Group accounts applying IFRS and my dpt engages tthe services of a renowned lecturer from yabatech to teach us on advanced FA. Am a proud akokite but we don't necessary have anything over yabatech in the accounting discipline.Yes, even in ABU too. Most of our lecturers were Msc and PhD holders with probably 2 profs. Most of the profs were supervising Msc and PhD students and only sent graduate assistants under them to lecture for them. How many profs dey Mathematics dept ABU, zaria sef? |
destino24: OP, where are you?I dey one side dey watch. |
zutu: B engr all the way!! I hate poly with passion.u mean u hate technologists? It means u're not a good engineer. Do u do engineering work without technologists? Do u implement ur designs by urself? U have to work with them, they are part of the engineering team. |
