₦airaland Forum

Odunayaw:
But una go still carry sticks and stones when a funny name and club shows up and drops a stinker

yes oh, not when we already have trusted defenders that did very well in the last Afcon, the next thing is to invite a defender for Ihefu fc, that's not what the team need at that time. Get us a good midfielder from ihefu fc nobody go stone am.

Goke7:
It’s even more sad when you look at the quality of opposition we have in our group for both Afcon and wcq. I feel so ashamed when I look at other groups perhaps we should getting tougher opponents may be that can wake up the team.

the group Rohr qualified us from was way tougher where you have cameroun, Zambia and Algeria. Four games against teams far below us on fifa rank, 3draw and 1 lose.

jihday:
yes if he’ll make us better, so which midfielder doing well in a league outside the top 5 do you know?

Bro na the job of the coach to search for better players to boast his team. Even if I mentionba player in the local league it still won't change anything.

elyte89:
What jihday refuse to realise is that we don’t even dominate d midfield aspect anymore against this so called minnows …dt thing Dey vex me ,aw can we be lobbing the ball against country like Rwanda 🇷🇼 and Benin 🇧🇯.

You get the point, let's play well first especially against this smaller team, when we play rubbish we defend it by saying no more minnows in Africa

jihday:
if you need Mikel and Okocha to beat Rwanda then we need to take a second look at the coach, can’t imagine Guardiola blaming their current run of form on Rodri’s injury

Oga I'm not even talking about beating this team, I'm talking about dictating play.
For the second part, Guardiola can't say it but that's what fans and football commentators are saying.

jihday:
or maybe we don’t have a good coach

Ever since Mikel retires we stop having good coaches.

jihday:
yes, we’ve tried both the one in SA is calmer 🤷🏿‍♂️

So you agree we can get a midfielder outside the top5 league who's better than what we have now.

BankyGee:
How does playing for AC Milan make you the best all of a sudden? Okoye plays for Udinese but somehow we all prefer Stanley Nwabali to him, you think club side and national teams are the same thing?

Thank God you said they're using their "best" players. I don't think we're using our best players in EVERY position, we have the best in some positions already, not all. We don't even have a solid bench. Our bench players couldn't beat Rwanda lol...

By his take our best goalkeeper should be Okoye, imagine training so hard to become Udinese, a club in a top5 league 1st choice. Rather we are using a south africa based goalkeeper who wasn't even the best while in the Nigerian league

jihday:
any coach who’s thinks it’s the skill set of a player warming bench in England division 3 is the answer I’m sure he can find same in our local league. This guy have been walking about from holland to Spain to Portugal now to England all these coaches don’t think he’s the answer to their midfield but you think he can be the answer to one of Africa’s biggest team okay o

Bro that coach should find that answer in the local league it will be better. When we had goalkeeper crisis, we all clamour for our coaches to search inward, but the problem we have is that even when they come local they don't go for the best, like going for Ojo who was a 3rd choice goalkeeper at that time and leaving more outstanding goalkeepers. You realise that they are not even sincere.

jihday:
Onyeka Onyedika Ndidi Iwobi Fisayo, this midfield is more than decent we just need a good coach to get the best out of them

A midfield that can not dictate or control a game even against smaller countries?
Imagine have Mikel or JayJay in our midfield, do you think Ekong will be lobbing the ball like he usually does, because the midfielders we have can't do it, they only know how to tackle and maybe chase the ball.

jihday:
maybe because that’s the best they can boast of, our keeper plays in South Africa because that’s the best we can boast of

so you can't boast of the one in the top5 league again, Udinese

Truidstarr:
The England, Spain, Germany, France and Italy of this planet, where do they get their players from. Make we no too argue…. It’s not a players problem. It’s a coaching problem.

Bro the your response is off, where do you expect them to get their players from, they pick most of their players from their local league which is what the the Brazilian fa is pushing for.

BankyGee:
That's exactly what's killing our squad, Morocco don't have a world-class "squad" but have players that suits whatever playing profile they need and that's what makes them a solid "team"...

We're... No, most people here are all about "top 5 leagues" and not all the top 5 leagues players are performing for us in the national team, make una dey play. National team is not club side, you need the best in any position from whatever club he plays for to form your good national team side, as far as he go deliver.

Morocco strikers;
Soufiane Rahimi - Al Ain (Dubai)
El Kaabi - Olympiacos (Greece)
Youseff En-Neysri - Fenerbahçe (Turkey)

Midfielders;
Amrabat (Fenerbahçe).
They have players from Panathinaikos, Al-Ahly, Al-Sadd, Al-Hilal and they're all balling for Morocco.

We... No, most people here dey dey deceive themselves. Or the South Africans that are the second highest scoring team in the AFCON qualifiers are all top 5 leagues players.

Top 5 league players are needed too but trying to make players playing in lower leagues seem like toys na just anyhow reasoning. Too many cooks spoil the broth 🙃

Especially when the team is lagging in a particular position like the midfield, instead of going for a player that best suit that position even if he plays outside the top5 league but no we look for any midfielder in the top5 not minding the midfield position and force him to play.

Amedino99:
I still remember Mikel at the last fifa awards, a year after he won the fifa the best award for the world cup, mentioning the fact that Messi won the world cup as part of the reason he should win the award. I guess a strong showing in the US is now considered a good criteria for the fifa the best awards because I'm sure as hell his 1 goal and 1 assist at the copa america did not earn him a nomination to the top ten.

Thank you for the bold, the bias is obvious.

GMBOFASIA:
For the first time inter Miami will be playing club world cup , won the league with highest point ever , became inter Miami all time goal scorer also this season 21 goals 12 assists

Bro go and read why inter miami will be at the club World Cup. Inter miami was eliminated from the first round of the MLS Cup. Forget this capping.
MLS all of a sudden is now rated but the Saudi league is not.

TheSuperNerd:
FIFA The Best Nominees released. No Lookman. No African.

How did Messi sneaked into this list.

Oh I forgot, for winning the 2022 world Cup 😂 fifa boy

waffiboi:
Bassey had a chance for England with his form and hype before Ajax move.

If Victor Moses waited for England. He’d play a few games

thank you, the option of waiting was still there for him, Amoebi waited, Agbolahor waited even Ebere Eze and Tomori waited at least to get a cap for England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Amedino99:
as at the time lukman played for us, he was already on his second consecutive loan in England with 10 goals in 50 appearances for fulham and Leicester.these loans came because he couldn't secure a shirt in Leipzig's squad and he had to seek opportunities elsewhere. He knew he was never getting an England shirt based on his stats as at then so playing for us didn't seem like a no brainer. Quick question. Outside iwobi ( okocha factor), which foreign born player has played for us despite having a very realistic chance at playing for a top European nation? The only person I can think of will be dessers for Belgium but then that is still debatable.

we can also ask how many have played for us of recent even after seeing very slim realistic chance of playing for England. See Aina, he was still a Chelsea player just like Tomori but still decided to go the Nigeria route. Appreciate the fact he chose Nigeria, not towards the end of his career and forget about the maybes.

Hanibal:
Lookman did not reject England please... Die the thought.
If he was playing like he is now 4 years ago, he wouldn't have given us a thought, not a chance!
You think if Lookman was a starter at Chelsea the way Abraham was, he would still have chosen us?
Just forget it!

Abeg, something wey be your own no go stress you, we have see some foreign born in average club rejecting Nigeria eg.Eze and the other guy formally at Fulham. I don't think Nigeria has begged any player the way we went on our knees beg Tammy to come play for us. Lookman could still have waited just like some that are happy to just sit on the bench of 3lions.

Goke7:
Feel same way but it’s arguable because as far as global football is concerned okocha is seen as Nigeria’s best ever not even just as a midfielder. I wish it wasn’t so but it’s what it is

if I should rate him base on his club career ill rate him average, then in the national team, above average.
Side by side Mikel - JayJay, I'll go for Mikel

Oganigwe:
Ndidi? LMFAOOO abeg!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying mancity should get ndidi, all I'm saying is mancity being a big club should have a backup to Rodri, even as decent as ndidi (minimum criteria)

BankyGee:
Defender - Taribo West

Midfielder - Jay Jay Okocha

Attacker - King James 👑

Seems I'm one of the few that don't really rate Okocha, yes bundle of talent and skills but not really productive. Played for Bolton no trophy but kanu could win FA cup with Portsmouth

TheSuperNerd:
TheGoodJoe, you guys need a Rodri stand-in by January. This can't keep happening else Man City will become Cartegena.

Mancity is not serious, so they don't have a backup for Rodri, even with a player at the level of ndidi, mancity will be fine.

TheSuperNerd:
Indeed a strong valid case for Taribo West. He was our truly first World Class Defender. Probably our only since then? Have we had any other World Class defenders, be it center backs or fullbacks?

yobo should be around the world class bracket

Amedino99:
calling kanu a striker for Nigeria would just open a flood you cannot contain.

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For me I don't see kanu as a striker just like Bergkamp

For me I'll go with
Uche Okechukwu - one defender I love his calmness in defence, his built
Mikel - For me this guy should be Nigeria best midfielder, club and national team career , won it all, no other come close.
Yekini - for still holding that top scorer record and for the fact that I don't consider Kanu a real striker.

Mybettingtips:
@thegoodjoe see your manager. The man is going through a lot. He must have stood in front of a mirror after a game and gave himself good head smack and scratches. Things are not going well right now for Pep. I hope he bounces back quickly

Are you sure this guy is not a psycho, he was hurting himself to ease the pain of drawing that match.

TheGoodJoe:

I always saw him as a kid that learnt and not naturally gifted.

This is what I consider natural talent.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCh_R_DM9wU

That's to say CR7 is the most intelligent player or human on earth to be considered one of the GOAT by just learning.
So next,
who did he learn from
Who's his teachers/coaches that taught him all he learnt.
Why are other players not going same route by learning and becoming the best.
Is Rodri talented or he also learnt.

TheGoodJoe:
So what is the argument about?

[/quoteThis guy literally called C.Ronaldo "untalented" and that he lacked "natural talent" unlike Messi [/color][/quote]You actually agreed that CR7 lacked natural talent

TheGoodJoe:

I am more a CR7 fan than Messi. I am even a bit detached from Messi.

Rodri's point is simple. Messi's talent is more natural and CR7 is learnt.

CR7 had to work hard to build his body and be extremely fit, which I think feel even reduced his natural talent

TheGoodJoe:

I am more a CR7 fan than Messi. I am even a bit detached from Messi.

Rodri's point is simple. Messi's talent is more natural and CR7 is learnt.

like CR7 learnt the leg over and skills from where Ana Nani with all the training couldn't get close.

TheSuperNerd:
The point is Ronaldo already had natural talent he built on. Every talented player that eventually succeeded worked to get where they are but the intensity of their hardwork is what varies.

You go explain this simple thing taya 😂.
Like Ronaldo has no talent just hard work 🤦‍♂️
Ask him if Rodri has talent or who in mancity is more talented than CR7