₦airaland Forum

technophile: You are still blaming God, was it God's fault that a man foolishly went ahead to eat monkey infected with Ebola, upon all the millions kind of food on earth. I don't even know why I'm arguing with you. You claimed to be an African, upon all the supernatural things going on around you, you still think there's no God. You are a BIG FOOl! You are comparing your self with white pple SMH, why don't you go out when they are doing the ORO at Ikorodu, and see if your foolishness will not make you to die an untimely death, oponu!

Did I hurt your foolish superstitious backside? Apologies for pointing out your lack seeming lack of intelligence. Did you read the drivel you typed? If you are typical of Nigerians, I pity us
Supernatural ko, Supernatural ni. MUMU of the highest order.
You cannot argue with me. Infact, you cannot stay in the same room as me. I do not engage with morons like you.
We are done.

Toyolad: hmmm..tell me, which prophesy is yet to be fulfilled aside d second coming of Jesus christ

Wrong question.
You tell me one "prophesy" that has been fulfilled. For it to be a proper prophesy, it has to be clear and unequivocal, not the "making it up as you go along" we are used to getting from apologists.

Sirniyeh: good point you are right with that observation.. I meant what I said tht no miracle recaused in bible that has never been reproduced in nigeria. I'm not a kid and from my years of living, I can identify fake miracle from the real ones.

For instance, a 9yr old boy confirmed dead by doctor. The parents buried him in grave covered with sand. Third day, the mother encountered an angel to go and unearth te boy from the grave. He was found alive. This happened to a muslim family in ijebu igbo town.true story. Is this not a miracle?
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A 60yrs old woman, who has reached the age of menupause got pregnant and delivered a baby.

Several witches were caught and confessed.
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Ijebu ode town was always flooded with water. One man sacrifised himself and the flood never reappear again.
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I have a friend born blind. He regained his sight when he reached age of 27.
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For instance, pa Akindayomi, the founder of RCCG healed the blind and lame and raised the dead. Confirmed.
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Idahosa raised the dead, Moses Orimolade performed several miracles as well.
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What is now special about bible that we make reference to? Why not make reference to all miracles that were performed in Nigeria?
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Were you there?
Did you witness any of these things?
Have you ever met a person who died and rose again?
None of these things is true. However, the truth has never been allowed to get in the way of a good christian lie.
There is nothing special or holy about the bible.
It is a collection of myths, fables and unfulfilled prophecies.

Nice

Words, no more than words. Wishful thinking.
Christians have been mouthing these for years to no avail.
Why does the poster think that they will make any difference now.
Words will not cure ebola, actions will.
God will not cure ebola, people will.

technophile: Here we go again, Nigerians blaming the failure of their leaders on God. If Nigeria remain undeveloped, we are all responsible for our failures not God, stop blaming God, American serves God, so is England and many other developed countries. If our leader are not too careless with our border, Ebola will not enter our country, after all Ghana and many other country in west Africa are not infected. The earlier you realize you are responsible for your failure the better!. Please leave those people praying unto him alone, or face his wrath and anger, it's your choice.

Here we go again, absolving the all-powerful, omni-everything god of responsibilty. If he really is everything you claim he is, then he, and he alone, is responsible for the ebola outbreak. If he exists, seeing that he had to be responsible, why pray to a monster to help solve the problem he caused.

Of course, there is no evidence that he exists, so praying is just wasting useful time. The developed countries are developed in spite of god, not because of god. Whilst professionals are seeking a cure, pastors and preachers (parasites and conmen, in my opinion) see the outbreak as another opportunity to fleece their long suffering followers.

Two hands working are better than a thousand hands praying.

technophile: atleast those people that gathered together to pray are doing something about the virus, but what have you guys that are abusing them done, Nothing!! but to discourage those people doing something. I shake my head for the future of the clueless country.

What exactly are they doing??
Why did their god not prevent the virus in the first place?
Why do they not put their faith to the test and go to the ebola clinics and shake hands with sufferers?
Is it any wonder that Nigeria remains undeveloped?
Whilst other countries are seeking a cure, we pray.

Liars for Christ.

[quote author=sweet-tease]Come on! You know the bible more than some xtians and you know definately that christ didn't preach such. Am also convinced you know some christians aren't practicing true christianity and that they are more fake prophets out there than they are real prophets.
BTW if dat is all fake xtians can do, its better than suicide bombing [/quote]No true Scotsman. It is amazing that those christians who do things that other christians do not like are not true christians.
The question is - Are there any TRUE christians out there?

yomip3t: Learn how to use "G" for your creator !
Abi hin be ur mate ! However, u go skool naw.

Wrong, god is not my creator. As we believe that he does not exist, there is no need to capitalize the g.

Because he (she, it) cannot do anything about it.
If god exists, he is useless and incapable.

Hardfact: @Kay 17, and Gays in the house, plz I ask if one wants, how can one become gay? I learnt that gays have bleeding an.us, haemoroids, or something like that, how true? Plz reply.

Stupidity aplenty on NL. and before you ask, I am not gay, but I support gay rights.

And they call this a miracle
I turn petrol into gas everyday and I do not get a writeup.
People will believe any nonsense if it is claimed in the name of god.
I pity Nigeria.

Our president has shown that paying homage to the GO is far more important than worrying about the state of the nation.
The man is a disgrace.

SpicyMimi: With all the beautiful and hot ladies around, i wonder why any man should feel attracted to his fellow man...wait o! So if u r a gay and Kim Kardashian is trippn for u like madt, you mean u gonna turn her down?

Your ignorance appears to know no bounds
Gay men are not sexually attracted to women, no matter how attractive the woman is.
Besides, if Kim Kardashian is your idea of womanhood, I am sorry for you.

SpicyMimi: Good for you! So u created urself ba? See ignorance ooooo! So pple like u stil dey dis world wid everthn happening around d world? Choi! There is a God dear, He exists, loves and cares for you!

Are you so ignorant that you need a lesson in human reproduction?
The one thing I can tell you is that there is no god involved
Did your god care for and love those kids who were killed in Newtown?
Did he care for those five people who were beheaded in Nigeria recently?
If he did, he certainly has a very funny way of showing it.
On the other hand, maybe there is no god, and people like you need to find a different comfort blanket.

Except for one little problem, Einstein was not a theist.

What ark
The one that never existed in the first place.
Good luck searching for the non-existent Ark.
You need it.

How has he been surviving since 1987?
Another liar for christ.
Needless to say, his senseless rantings are not to be believed.

You lost. Your god was asleep during the elections.
All your prayers came to nothing.
SORE loser.
Insulting the president of the USA is really unedifying.
Grow up.

jamp: No I won't tink like you. God does exist and you hv to believe that

You are entitled to believe any nonsense you want to.
I do not have to believe just because you say so.
I am glad you don't think like me.
I cannot bear to think that an ignorant person thinks like me.

Cut off their manhood, give them hormone therapy and ---- you have freshly minted women.
Sex change operations courtesy of the state.
What a mor.on
These are kind of people we elect to govern us.
We are in serious trouble.

jamp: How can people live and still believe God does not exist

Very easy when you think about it.
God does not exist.
There, you see - I am alive and know that god does not exist.
Try thinking - you might enjoy it

honeychild: @zodiac61

Yu say believers should apply the same standard of proof to their faith that they apply to other faiths. Well that is just what I am asking Muslims to do.
All my life I have heard Muslims attack the Bible for its 'contradictions' and' errors.k' Because the #Quran was not widely availablke in a language we could understand, it was immune from scrutiny.


Thank God for Google! Now I can scrutinize the Quran with the same microscope Muslims have been using on theBible without any fear of starting a 'holy war'

So jama'a man up and doi what christians have been doinf for decades! Defend your faith without resorting to violencem.

I am not sure that I understand what you are asking me to do.
You see, I think that you are both deluded (christian and muslim).
Both your holy books are full of contradictions and nonsense.
You are as blind as each other.

To the christians who are quick to see the speck in another's eye but fail to see the log in their's, have your read the bible lately?
Did you fail to see the various contradictions therein?
Or are you just being a hypocrite?
There is an Outsiders Test for faith developed by John Loftus

When believers criticize the other faiths they reject, they use reason and science to do so. They assume these other religions have the burden of proof. They assume human not divine authors to their holy book(s). They assume a human not a divine origin to their faiths.

Believers do this when rejecting other faiths. So dispensing all of the red herrings about morality and a non-material universe, the OTF simply asks believers to do unto their own faith what they do unto other faiths. All it asks of them is to be consistent.

The OTF asks why believers operate on a double standard. If that's how they reject other faiths then they should apply that same standard to their own. Let reason and science rather than faith be their guide. Assume your own faith has the burden of proof. Assume human rather than divine authors to your holy book(s) and see what you get. If there is a divine author behind the texts it should be known even with that initial skeptical assumption.

So the OTF uses the exact same standard that believers use when rejecting other religions. If there is any inconsistency at all it is not with the OTF. It is how believers assess truth claims. For it should only take a moment’s thought to realize that if there is a God who wants people born into different religious cultures to believe, who are outsiders, then that religious faith SHOULD pass the OTF.

If Christians want to reject the OTF then either they must admit they have a double standard for examining religious faiths, one for their own faith and a different one for others, or their faith was not made to pass the OTF in the first place. In either case all of their arguments against the OTF are based on red herrings, special pleading, begging the question, the denigrating science, and an ignorance that I can only attribute to delusional blindness.

OLAADEGBU: You might as well say that Jesus Christ is the most intolerant, divisive, hateful and stingy.

Well, he was, wasn't he?

You did not vote for Obama because you are an ignorant bigot, like the rest of the wingnuts you appear proud to associate with.

Of course, the man is probably deluded.
Have any of his so-called miracles been verified?
No.

It is clear that Nigerian polititians in the mold of Fani Kayode are fools. Whoever gave the mo.ron a public forum? Whatever gave him the idea that his stu.pid views count?
He has listened to too many right wing christians in the USA, whose only problem with Obama is that he is not white, and their moronic black cohorts, whose mentality remains that of slaves following the dictates of their white masters.
The fool did nothing in Nigeria save that which most Nigerian polititians do, continue to run down the country, whilst pretending to be a christian.
Whoever gave him right to interfare in the politics of another country?

Gloriagee: I'm certain you do not understand my post - the Looking unto Jesus is for Christians like me who are frustrated when people who are sposed to offer spiritual leadership fall. All, I'm saying is Look unto Jesus not your pastor since You never know who is in the right with God or not. While, this pastor was conducting an extra marital affair with this chorister, some church members may have asked him to seek the face of God with them, instead of praying to God directly. You may recall, that the old prophet lied to the young prophet and this caused the latter to die before his time.

I agree that the Pastor is wrong, but the girl's also wrong. I'm on the path of truth and refuse to camouflage because I'm of the same gender. If you reread my post, my beef with her is what's she even doing parading herself as a chorister when she's not born again. Gosh, I can understand a one off encounter but repeated romps, no way. As I said earlier, Y do pple go on to join churches they don't believe in and even become workers. When, I had a crisis of faith at some point, I skipped Church till I was sure I believed. Pple have to take responsibility for their actions, what if the pastor had asked her to put her hand in the fire, nko?

And yes, if you want to marry at 26, doesn't common sense tell you that at 24 you should be dating potential husbands who ideally should be SINGLE. The Pastor's definitely messed up and I'm sure he'll be adequately rewarded by God, if this story is true. Even David, a man after God's heart was still punished after adultery with Bathsheba, so. All, I'd say is like Jesus said, ' The Son of Man is going be betrayed, but woe unto that MAN by which the Son of Man's betrayed. The Pastor may/may not have made up his mind to sleep around and would have been sufficiently punished by God, but it did not have to be her, just as there was nothing that said it had to be Judas Iscariot that'll betray Jesus.

If we can't let our guard down in the church, pray tell where shall we be safe? the club?

I understood your post perfectly.
I think you are wrong.

luluosas: I don't think along this line at all. The pastor is first at fault before the poor girl. My reasons are based on the fact that, you as a pastor preaches to others about things you are not expected to be involved in. Yes, he is "human" but, he still have the Holy Spirit to help him overcome that temptation if actually, he is a sincere pastor.

Obviously, the holy spirit did not help him here. My point is that time and time again, christians on this forum blame the woman for tempting the man.
What is a sincere pastor? This seems like "No true Scotsman".
Time after time, we have seen pastors lie, cheat, steal, fornication and so on. They do so because that is what human beings do. No god required.

SELFWORTH: poster@chuckzoid

If you haven't experienced it, how can you understand it? Unless you are in Christ, you will never understand the spiritual. Nothing can compare

More sophisticated nonsense. Putting words together to form sentences does not mean that they always make sense.
The quote above is a classic example of sophisticated theology; hot air.