mags5222:

LOL thank you for high lighting this photo of Brian. Notice the pronounced land bridges and the very bulbus nose.

red101:

"so called africa" hehn? LOL
maybe you shouldn't have started the argument when I posted that I looked african. you clearly have an issue with me calling myself african looking. I have no issues with whatever you wish to call yourself.

mags5222:

Anger? I'm not angry because I know who I'am. I asked you a simple question if I provide books and excerpts will you read them or will you brush them off?

I also told you that many blacks have oral tradition of being here before and that they didnt come on any ships. I said missionaries because I know many missionaries the world over were going around teaching false history. If left to him blacks never had any culture and were naked savages.

mags5222:
How is this addressing anything that I stated? We have a unique culture. Blacks in the Americas period. Ya'll have your unique culture. Respect it.

mags5222:
There is difference between racism and prejudice. I'm prejudice. I can't effect any white persons economic standing. My prejudice is not without reason. If you have been wronged you should be naturally suspicious point blank.

mags5222:
Wrong! And wrong! You're right you will never be black american. So you have no idea neither have you tried to deconstruct the history between blacks and whites. The difference between stormfronters and myself is blacks have never destroyed Europe or killed off a sizable population and oppressed them. However this has happened therefor my dislike of them is justified. I will not hold hands with these people and be politically correct because I know my history. When you know your story, you will keep these people at arms length period.

mags5222:
Okay then your problem is?

mags5222:
You see the problem with people like you is you think just because people declare a difference this means they are denying a connection. I never denied a connection. However I won't deny my connection with the other groups of people,which is what many black americans have been doing. We can't allow everyone to define us and who we are.

mags5222:
LOL because I'm challenging all your beliefs? Yawns* haha I can careless. The only bogus statements is out of mainstream scientist their media and the puppets that go along for the ride.

sexfiend: alright let us assume brad pitt has 10 percent black . wesley snipes has 80 percent white . does it matter? brad pitt is not chasing shadows, he is clearly a white european man . he is not saying that he is ancestors are from syria or iran etc. he is clearly european .
meanwhile , wesley snipes who is clearly from togo is chasing 10 percent white and looking for island with people who have blonde hair and light brown skin .

sexfiend: alright let us assume brad pitt has 10 percent black . wesley snipes has 80 percent white . does it matter? brad pitt is not chasing shadows, he is clearly a white european man . he is not saying that he is ancestors are from syria or iran etc. he is clearly european .
meanwhile , wesley snipes who is clearly from togo is chasing 10 percent white and looking for island with people who have blonde hair and light brown skin .

mags5222:

A complete fact based off your bullshit! American culture is based off of blacks with a touch of European influence not the other way around! These people are your masters but they're not mine. It isn't a subset and never was.

mags5222:

This would be a lie because wesley has nothing to do with white folks besides the white hooches that he forked. he is an american.

mags5222:

This would be a lie because wesley has nothing to do with white folks besides the white hooches that he forked. he is an american.

all4naija:

Yes, you are! With the term like 'bullsh*t missionaries taught you' and all the slurs leading to your display of bitterness in your posts. You are trying to hide it by saying you know who you are whereas in reality you are furious about it. That you question is not contextual in any sense and that is the very reason I purposely ignored it in my previous reply because I already know your stand on this argument.

all4naija:
Sorry, you would have to provide proof of many blacks who where in America before the Atlantic slave trade. If you mean Red Indians they weren't black and for those of the West Indices cannot be addressed as Americans. In fact, there is no black that has been able to explore the Americas before the slave trade. You are making that up if you believe there is.

all4naija:

All culture are unique to the people in the sense of their beliefs. To others it might mean primitiveness and inability to find a better way to evolve. Using that word, 'unique', doesn't really change a thing about the discussion because all cultures are similar by definition. I know you mean to say African Americans(officially acceptable term for Negros) not 'black Americans' or else you would be including other blacks in America, like the Nigerian American, Kenyan American, South African American, etc. You don't force people to respect culture, it is anybody's prerogative to choose what kind of culture to embrace. In the sense that there are things you might hate about a culture that you don't want to practice. You have to live with that truth. You are trying to force it on people just like the Islamic nations are doing to their people. Everything changes including culture.

all4naija:
I quite agree with you there is difference between racism and prejudice but the latter can be a part of the former when it involves blatant hate for skin color. That you have tentatively shown here in your posts. You clearly air disgust for the white man's culture and views on history. Without having to quote your posts you would agree there are elements of racism in those words.

all4naija:
I wouldn't want to be what I am not and that doesn't mean I have no idea about the African American history. Accept the reality of that statement for the good our argument. The excuse you give is a common sense, Africans did the same to others(Africans) in the past. Using color to define evil as a means to justify the other's crime(Africans) is not fair. For disliking a race for parents past deed doesn't differentiate you from a sadist who clueless about finding solution to his problem than making more of the problem. It is something I am not going to accept from you. You have finally proved you are a racist in the last line of that paragraph.

all4naija:
I don't have a problem. I only disagree with your understanding of culture in that very comment.
I don't have a trouble with being different but with the fact of not seeing the relevance of the small region of origin is the bone of contention. You like to use conjecture to play down of the nitty-gritty of this heated debate. Trying to separate yourself from the other keep you close to that small region you never want referenced to culture in your previous comment. Indeed, that more or less a denying it.
Nobody defines who you are, you choose to be who you want to be from what you think you are. Don't forget the society all rather the environment has a lot to play in shaping you up. It is something you cannot avoid.

all4naija:

I don't see where you challenge my beliefs. The only thing you do is to make up an idea, put it to me and defend it along that line. You said I hate African American which is not true. That is not my belief but yours. In the whole of this argument I don't see where you have been about to express the reason why I have to accept your wrong views on this matter.

red101:

go ahead with your melanasian self. you rock you aren't african american. you are melanasian oh sorry i mean indigenous american

mags5222:
I challenge your beliefs regarding history as we seem to have two different stories that don't coincide with mines. many blacks across the ocean hate black americans calling us lazy and saying we are doing this and that when you have no clue! and alot of you when you come here kiss white butt. this makes me believe even more that we have difference experiences with white people.

all4naija:
He is an American but African American. That is the complete fact.

red101:

what do you mean by "black across the ocean"? melanasians? or africans?
just because we are all blacks doesn't mean that we share the same culture. even within africa, we fight and don't share the same cultures.
it's called cultural differences. you are an american afterall.

mags5222:

Again did you all not go through colonialism? Again we obviously have different experiences which points to the fact that they(Whites) treat you differently compared to native black americans.

red101:

i caught on that she was crazy as soon as she said she hates whites.
then I started noticing that she didn't like the idea of the term "african" either.

red101:

#DEAD

khiaa:

So if a person hates whites it means they are crazy? Hmmmm! I wonder does that same logic apply to the Nigerians that hate African Americans?

khiaa:

She's African American.

khiaa:

So if a person hates whites it means they are crazy? Hmmmm! I wonder does that same logic apply to the Nigerians that hate African Americans?

khiaa:


Words out of the mouth of a fool.

red101:

now you are off on a totally different tangent. you sound bitter and resentful. whatever it is, drink some good tea and go to bed. you will feel better tomorrow. goodnight.

remember that hatred won't do your soul any good. let go of all the racial hatred. that's a good place to start.

mags5222:

Its funny how you are cosigning this idiot when there can be blacks in africa that look similar to those brown skin blondish brown hair Melanesians. so what? its not about chasing anything. but stupid people like you who have an inferiority complex believe this.

mags5222:
Preach this to your own who come here with stupid preconceived notions. Atleast my ideology is based off history, Which clowns like you ignore. I mean should i f--cking ignore that these people used to kill my black men for just looking at a white woman? the shit happen just 30 years ago. but fools like you will want to join hands with such people and say forget. newsflash! they still operate the same they are still doing the same thing today. smh you I align with them i won't.

red101:

you are obsessed with the egyptians, north africans aka nubians and blonde melanasians for a reason. am i correct?
can you tell me what the meaning of "african booty scratcher" is? i've always wondered. seems like you were one of those AAs who liked to torment and bully african immigrants at school. and then when they graduate, and do well, you still complain.

mags5222:

And who the hell told you this? There are many blacks that still practice Vodun including my own family members. Sure the language was lost as we adopted some white culture but the idea that we lost everything is bullcrap. Not everything that happen here in the Americas was about blacks being beat or killed or any of that crap. Did you know that the civil war isn't what officially ended slavery? Did you know that the emancipation proclamation is bullcrap? Come on we need to rethink and relearn all that we were told, blacks were just being beat and waiting on the white man to free us from slavery. Neither were all of us slaves. And another hidden Gem alot of whites were slaves.

Did you know that natives were preferable as slaves than black in so called africa? I know exactly what i'm talking about and it isn't based of mainstream white bullcrap.

Take note I said Mainstream.

khiaa:

I never said they took all of our culture away(even though they tried) but they put our ancestors through hell, I'm not talking about slavery, but chattel slavery. We are a strong people to survive this and prosper in this country.

The Civil War was not declared to stop slavery, I call the end of slavery through the war a byproduct. lol

jeffizy:
I'm willing to learn khiaa.
But I still maintain my 'ignorant' stand.

khiaa:


Feeling inferior are you?

mags5222:

I suggest you research the gulla wars. Black folks freed other black folks from slavery. The civil war had nothing to do with us. I'm very proud of my people. Not all were slaves you know. So we have a very interesting history. The US knows that not all of us were slaves thus they won't give us any reparations because of this fact.

Also alot of whites were slaves, this is hidden history that many people don't discuss and when white folks do discuss they use it as a tool against black folks and claiming we should stop crying about slavery. it isn't that black folks are crying about slavery. they are really mad over jim crow and black code laws.

also white people through their movies keep on rehashing this slavery thing. why do you think this is? they always trying portray blacks as some weak people.