Hero10001:
Inferior to what? Black or white?!
Oh, i'm neither one of em.

AKUNWATA1: SHUT YA DIRTY FAT STINKING POOSY IDIOTA

khiaa:

Yes everyone knows there were free blacks, and I know the civil war wasn't about slavery but the enslaved blacks were freed after it ended stop trying to deny this part of history.

Some whites were servants mostly the Irish, who had to work untill they paid off their depts, which could be years, but no way were they slaves in the sense as our ancestors were. They weren't in bondage because of the color of their skin, they weren't born into slavery only to die in it. Two totally different situations.

khiaa:


Whatever your demonds are, you show signs of inferiority and low self esteem.

Ptolomeus: Dear friend:
It is a broad topic.
In some countries, the African-American culture...!

mags5222:

Why do blacks like you peddle these lies taught you by white media and Alex haley bullshit? Why don't you all try to actually go out and seek the truth. That is total nonsense. Whites were slaves and they were treated just as harsh as the blacks. This part of history is hidden after they decided to make those(Irish) who were once designated as non white, white thus they all become apart of this socalled white race. They also want to push this bullcrap agenda that all slaves were black people. This is total nonsense, not all slaves were black africans smh.

Also the enslaved blacks weren't free because of it, but because of a set of wars that Our black men put into motion to fight against the establishment. smh.

khiaa:

Keep talking you fool.

AKUNWATA1: ARE YOU A B.STARD DONT EVER QUOTE ME AGAIN

khiaa:

We all know that black men fought in the civil war, that is not news, and there is no way those whites were subjected to the same agony as my ancestors were. There were no chattel slavery with them. They didn't have chains around their heads and seen as unhuman. Yes we all know blacks weren't the only slaves but they were the majority, some Native Americans were slaves and they also owned black slaves.

mags5222:

This is a lie. Why is slavery an anguish so entrenched into your mind? Black people aren't the only ones that went through inhumane conditions. Yes whites despite the story went through inhumane conditions. The only difference is the elite united them under the banner of the white race, and gave them freebies to keep us at bay. I'm not talking about black men fighting with whites. i'm talking about black africans who aligned with black aboriginals to end slavery. SMH these are the Gulla wars.

khiaa:

It's true.

khiaa:

I cosign you, but for your information we AAs on the west coast do celebrate our family reunions, as a matter of fact my family just recently celebrated ours, I talked about it in my posts.

KidStranglehold:


Thanks.

Yeah I stand corrected. I never been to the west honestly. The reason I thought that was because AA's in the west are so far away.

khiaa:

The reunion can be held in any state it doesn't have to be in the south. Airplanes fly all across the US.

mags5222:

On what fact? This man is native. What tribe does he hail from? If blacks decided to migrate to west africa how many of you will let them in?

khiaa:



There is no one in America, past or present who went through the agony of my ancestors (fact) so you can stop your bullshyt right here and now troll. Go back to stormfront and tell them you've been busted.

KidStranglehold:

I always looked at family reunions as a southern thing.

Also I heard you discussing the Civil War and how it really wasnt about slavery. And it was and it wasn't but imo it didn't have the biggest impact on the freeing of the slaves. Most AA's don't know that prior to slavery they were resisting slavery. Check out this thread where I connect the dots.
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-seminole-wars-no-the-gullah-wars-a-war-oblivious-to-african-americans.210547/

Most of the sources I use are peer reviewed.

You seem like you have a big interest in AA history and so I wanted to show you this.

khiaa:

Most black American knows about the gullah and the Seminoles war, I was taught that in high school in my black history class. The civil war was fought to preserve the union, Lincoln said he had no intentions in freeing the slaves nor changing the laws that would prevent slave owners from retrieving their runnaway slaves from free states. Lincoln was not the hero everyone thinks he is.

all4naija:
How does going through pain of slavery shaped this argument? The cultural value of that is nothing more than the past which we have to let it be so that we can move forward. I don't admire people who continuously dwell on the things of the past.

KidStranglehold:

Most AA's I talked to(even from Georgia) appeared to be clueless on this subject. But yeah the Civil War was not really about "freeing the slaves". I like the topic of the "Gullah wars" because it proves that AA's were not just sticking ducks and did resist just like other blacks of the diaspora. We always kept fighting, even up to the civil rights moment.

Nebeuwa: I was recently arguing with a Nigerian friend of mine, concerning this topic. She believes that African Americans do not have a culture and that it is only a subset of the wider American culture.

At first, I was offended when she made that statement, because I saw that as an attack on half of my identity through my maternal side. I stated by looking at our music, our cuisine and our form of speech, that is an expression of culture.

So do you all think African Americans have a culture or not?

KidStranglehold:

Don't really care about this debate, but its important to learn about the past. Its the reason why history is not only important but taught in our schools. Learning from the past actually makes us less ignorant and makes us learn from our mistakes.

all4naija: You have said the obvious. I cannot engage that very question for the fact that you cannot see Wesley Snipe is African American even when his biography says so. You just like to argue for argument sake!

KidStranglehold: And also I would ignore that mags5222 character. He/she seems to be unstable.

khiaa:



There is no one in America, past or present who went through the agony of my ancestors (fact) so you can stop your bullshyt right here and now troll. Go back to stormfront and tell them you've been busted.

all4naija:
How does going through pain of slavery shape this argument? The cultural value of that is nothing more than the past which we have to let it be so that we can move forward. I don't admire people who continuously dwell on the things of the past.

mags5222:

Furious? No determined yes. My people need to be educated about their story so they won't be a pack of morons believing that whites have good intentions.

mags5222:
I'm going to ask you this one more time. If I gave you information on books like the rocks cried out or excerpts on who these people seen when they first landed will you believe it? You see you can believe what you want. There is no such thing as a red indian. Only blacks and browns and even whites,. There is no proof at all that the bulk of the blacks here in the new world are descendent from slaves or even foreigners.

mags5222:
But I'm done with you! When you claim there were no blacks that explored the americas before the slave trade, this let me know you're full of it.

That is a fact! There is no black who explores the Americas before Christopher Columbus. The people who have been there were the Tainos and they aren't black.

mags5222:
i'M SORRY but not everyone can socalled adopt my culture without giving its due respect. That is called cultural appropriation which many whites have did towards my people. So I don't accept your lame ideology because many of you aren't willing to think outside the box. I mean no one is surprised that the bulk of the afrocentric scholars are outside of africa, and many of you people ridicule them when they are trying to restore the glory lost.

mags5222:
wrong! you're a fool to believe that its because of their skin color and not their history or how they act. i suggest you visit white forums to see what they say about people of our heritage. you are blant ignorant to which i have to ask again, did colonialism happen, because you people have forgot.

mags5222:
And yes their culture is barbaric and their history is a pack of lies. Do you think i would ever accept that blacks around the world were naked savages and that whites had to teach these people?

mags5222:
Wrong! you don't know anything of black american history how many of you know about tulsa and rosewood? don't peddle your crap to me! an intelligent person never forgets the past those who forget are endanger of repeating the past. these people didn't change their tactics! they are the same as their forefathers. but why should i convince you of this? we don't have the same story obviously.

mags5222:
What are you talking about? My point has always been that blacks are aboriginal and that our culture is american PERIOD.

mags5222:
I challenge your beliefs regarding history as we seem to have two different stories that don't coincide with mines. many blacks across the ocean hate black americans calling us lazy and saying we are doing this and that when you have no clue! and alot of you when you come here kiss white butt. this makes me believe even more that we have difference experiences with white people.

KidStranglehold:

Most AA's I talked to(even from Georgia) appeared to be clueless on this subject. But yeah the Civil War was not really about "freeing the slaves". I like the topic of the "Gullah wars" because it proves that AA's were not just sticking ducks and did resist just like other blacks of the diaspora. We always kept fighting, even up to the civil rights moment.

mags5222:

There is nothing wrong with acknowledging the past. Remembering allows people to navigate the future and take precaution. However this slave bullcrap is pure propaganda that they teach. When it is a fact that black people were never the only slaves. Which is a fact. This victim role that many id*ts have assume about blacks during slavery is crazy. Stop trying to make blacks seem like they were weak victims. They weren't.

mags5222:

You're an idiot African- American is a political designation coined by stupid Jesse Jackson! Anyone from Africa can come here and be African- American therefor its a stupid term to use seeing as wesley isn't from Africa but is from the Americas.