all4naija:

Yes, you are! I have reminded you of that in my previous post prior to this reply. The education your people need the most is to get civilized and live organized life not gangster-ism displays in almost all things which involved them in the community. I don't see why white not having good intention for black people is the problem but the problem it the inability of the black people to make a change. You are only preaching against your beliefs. I don't think white is the major problem of the black people as you are making it to look.

all4naija:
The people who the first Spanish ships expedition commanded by Christopher Columbus meet are Tainos(the native) who are much like the Red Indians. Meaning there is such thing as Red Indians. They are the native to the Americas. There is no evidence of white in the Americas before it's discovered. So you only have the Red Indians or the Tainos to be precise. It is clear almost all blacks in the Americas comes from Africa and negroid are found in part of Africa and Asia before the discovery. Those who are in the Americas are Mongoloid.
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all4naija:
That is a fact! There is no black who explores the Americas before Christopher Columbus. The people who have been there were the Tainos and they aren't black.

all4naija:
Adopting a culture is not about respect is about admiring to emulate the community ways of doing things by acceding to their standard. Respect is not necessarily a prerequisite as you adopt it you have to do is follow it. That is not respect. That is the reason why modern culture is vastly made up of many different cultures. You are just asking for primitive idea to have sense of belonging which nobody is trying take away from you. But you are limiting yourself by doing that in the 21st century. Afrocentrism is a racist ideology. It has move the black people forward but limit them to a small region taking away many opportunities.

all4naija:
You have said it before you hate white. It is pronounced in your posts. White indeed is not actually about color in this modern time it is about culture. As such you systematically fail to see how that resonate around the world within the educated community. You don't expect all white people to be the same. Those who hate blacks and other skin colors are doing so out of blatant hate and ignorance. The same can be said of black people and others. By referring me to white forums doesn't make any difference and pointing to colonial is not relevant to the argument either. That is as bad as the different African tribes conquering another in the past and take command of their communities. The relevant thing is to provide how African American culture is unique from the originator back in Africa and get organized.

all4naija:
Your anger won't let you see the truth of this matter. Not all white people see the primitive culture as bad anyway but some educated Africans do. The idea to start dwelling in barbaric culture that hasn't helped to move Africa forward in this 21st century is waste of time and preposterous to say the least. If you want to remain in your primitive forefather ways without making changes be my guest and move back to the forest village and practice it there.

all4naija:
You don't expect me to know everything and I can prove you too don't know everything about African America history. I am not peddling any false information and I don't say things beyond what I understand here. There is no argument intelligent doesn't dwell in the past either. Most of the things in the past are usually forgotten due to lack of evidences, documentations and time will come the past you are crying over would be forgotten. Forgetting about the past becomes a mind thing as time passes by. That is one of the reasons we have museum to exhibit these past activities.

all4naija:
Blacks aren't Aborigines. Blacks are negroid which is made up of all dark skin people mainly defined by phenotype more than genotype.

all4naija:
You only accuse me of something I have no idea of , input it into me and claim that I hate African Americans as others across the ocean, which is far from being the truth. I don't call that a challenge but false accusation due to you fear and hate for others who disagree with your views. If embracing modern culture is kissing white bottom so be it. I cannot stand the idea of primitive people who continually refuse to make a change and get organized. Nevertheless, different people of different background usually have different experiences. I don't really understand what you mean by that last line of your post.

khiaa:

Most black American knows about the gullah and the Seminoles war, I was taught that in high school in my black history class. The civil war was fought to preserve the union, Lincoln said he had no intentions in freeing the slaves nor changing the laws that would prevent slave owners from retrieving their runnaway slaves from free states. Lincoln was not the hero everyone thinks he is.

all4naija:

Actually, you are now expressing my view making use of it as though it is yours. There is no much propaganda about African slavery. There are well documented records pointing to those facts. If you agree they weren't weak victims you are denying the truth of history. That weakness is the basic reason they could fend off the slave traders and progress beyond arts.

all4naija:
You are begging the question. The African in it stands for their origin. Africa is made up of many ethnic groups and nations. As such any African who comes to America can not be addressed as African American but by the nationality of origin as an antecedent to American. For example, Nigerian American, South African America, etc.

mags5222:

Get civilized? And this is why i don't your people! stop trying to claim us and than turn around and spew the White man's bullcrap. You have no concept of our history whatsoever. So don't claim we are this and that, when we aren't your people PERIOD.

The only education my people need is the basic education plus 10 times extra that many receive in schools. Thats what they need, they need to learn about their history and their culture PERIOD! And yes Whites are the major problem! Its 2 fold. The Elites are the major problem, these people are White. Than you have the common Whites who will do whatever the elite tells them. Therefor these people are an issue too. Learn something before spewing your bullcrap.

mags5222:



Don't post to me bullcrap because Christopher Columbus and his excerpts along with his son Ferdinand and cortez described the indigenous and they weren't any red man. Red man is a myth. What they saw were negroid like people black skin wooly hair flat nose, and they also seen mongols and they also seen Australoid types. America was mixed from the beginning. it was never one phenotype and it was never from 1 location. It is obvious that the bulk of them in south and central america and Mexico are mixed. The bulk of the blacks here are indigenous period! We can see that through out the Americas. Whats even revealing is when you travel to Veracruz, there are people that will tell you that they didn't come on any slave ship. The same for the Caribs. There are some people that will tell you that they didn't come on any slave ships.

mags5222:

Again don't peddle to me white washed history PERIOD! Because I know better. Those people are mixed breeds. And aren't the original. It is no surprise that these people share cultural habits with people in the Pacific and Africa. Its called cultural diffusion. There were no homogenous native groups here.

mags5222:
You never appropriate someones culture PEIROD! NEVER! You don't go around wearing their cultural dress etc. Unless excepted by those people. If you go around playing dress up and not giving people their due, its called Thievery, This is the same thing whites have done to others. Stole and than tried to make it seem it was their culture. this is wrong! You're a fcking idiot! If it wasn't fro Afrocentricism most people would still believe that africans were savages! Nothing racist about afrocentrics these people have good intentions to restore Africa's past.

This is why i say its a waste of time, because clowns like you don;t appreciate these people, and many of them have spent their lives focused on a foreign land.

mags5222:
There is a difference slowpoke, from saying there are some good white people vs saying white people are GOOD. These people aren't good. You don't want to look back to colonialism because either you're an id9t or it didn't happen on mass scale like they claim PERIOD! People who have came in contact with whites, would instantly know not to trust these people. Everyone knows this except blacks in Africa and some blacks here. You people don't get it! Your countries/communities have never prospered trusting whites. And they sure in the heck don't see you the same way. Their thought process isn't about embracing you. And black american culture has nothing to do with Africa period. This is our culture created in America PERIOD. WE had influence from african peoples, but this is as far as you're going to get.

mags5222:
wow you even call your own culture barbaric? who the heck taught you this? nothing barbaric about the wonderful cultures in africa. the problem is whites and their disease to destroy and label people primitive when they're the primitive one. but hey I can't convince you of anything about your own. I see the truth perfectly you just don't have any sense, at all, you were given a brain learn history and connect it to the world that you are living in today.

mags5222:
You're an id=ot and you have shown this time after time. No wonder Africans can't get a heads up. Its because of people like YOU! If you were smart you would pass your history down to your children so you would never forget. This is why African countries are having such a hard time. People like the chinese come in and you believe these people mean you well. You never learn from your past at all. And even at this present day you have excepted the American government coming into your countries. You will never know anything about black american history.and i'm stunned because i don't think you even know your own.

mags5222:
You're an idiot. Blacks are aboriginals because they were the first one on every continent period!

mags5222:
Oh I don't care if you disagree with my views, you are free to believe think however you want, because this isn't my job to prove to you regarding my peoples history. You're an outsider you can't dictate or tell people who they are. Fear? I have no fear, this is a product of your imagination. Well you're the primitive because you choose to embrace white folks. There is nothing modern about them including their structures. They have all their people dependent on them period. This isn't natural.

mags5222:

They will not be addressed as Nigerian American etc.. Because their is no classification for different african ethnic groups, therefor they have to mark African American on anything they fill out. which is stupid.

mags5222:

No we are on two different views buddy. You're such a fcking idiot its hilarious! Whites didn't just come in and pick up slaves in Africa. Muslims had to help them. Because they couldn't permeate inland they had to stay on the coast. Whites had help from Muslims to conquer and destroy Africa. The blacks in Africa were fighting against this. African slavery is propaganda for the fact that there wasn't as many Africans taken on a slave ship as they claim. PERIOD. No they weren't weak victims they fought in Africa and when some here made it to the Americas they fought here. They hooked up with aboriginal black people to fight against the white colonialist. In fighting is what destroyed blacks in Africa.

all4naija:
These are your own made up claims. I am not going to accept that without you providing any source to that.

mags5222:

These aren't my made up clowns this is a fcking fact! Stop trying to perpetrate that horrible stereotype of blacks in africa being weak. They're not weak! You all are descendants of warriors act like it!

Huh! Bleh! Keep deceiving yourself not me.

all4naija:

If after hundreds years African Americans are still crying of whites as problem then there must be something wrong with them somewhere. The Asians in American are doing better climbing the leader of progress in the education fields while most blacks would want to engage themselves in gangster life and blame whites for their suffering. That is not going to help matter. Look at those in the hem of affairs in major tech industries, most are whites and many are Asians who are even more of minority than African Americans. The typical black man would want to party all day long and expect to be fed by the government. What kind of nonsense is that? The blacks reproduce more than they can take care of, refuse to go to school but want to be hip-hop artistes,etc. Not until they are able to find solution to many things like those which are holding back their community there is no way they are going to move forward. The institution you find whites where built by them. So black should fight to do the same before human finally is able to assimilate properly into a single race that we really are.

all4naija:
It is sad you couldn't prove how white people are the major problem preventing blacks from progressing. The Asians could have said the same thing if they relent in acquiring knowledge, etc. I hope you don't expect white people to live Americas for the blacks else it is going to turn into banana republics within several months.

all4naija:
The Christopher Columbus description is clear they aren't whites but look like the West Indices people and obviously find out to be Tainos. If you denied that fact of history it means you aren't using recorded information to support your argument. The natives have always been mongoloid not negroid before the first discovery expedition of Columbus arrives at the now known Island of Bahamas.

all4naija:
Your definition of the people in your post is mongoloid only that you are trying to make black be part of the people by including the Aborigine. There are differences between Aborigines and native Tainos. The bulk of the black people you are referring to today as natives are either mixed with the native Tainos ,etc or are progeny of the past slave trade.

Most present day African American didn't come on slave ships but their forefathers are.

all4naija:
Mixed breed my effing bottom! I am telling you about the original native to the Bahamas are Tainos, the first Island the Columbus ships landed. He recognizes them because he has seen images of people who look like them in Asia.

You are making that up. I am not going to be a part of your plan to cook up false information and try to take away what belong to Tainos.

all4naija:
Who said that is not possible? Culture evolves and that is the reason why we all in one way or the other applying different people culture to our lives. You seem to be chasing after shadows in this very discussion. There is nothing thievery about that when in this present generation. It is more or less like expanding it. We seen Arab culture in many countries around the, there is European culture in virtually everywhere on earth,etc. That is the reason the world has become a global village you refused to accept. It is time for you to move back to that forest village and practice your culture to yourself.

all4naija:
It is racist and has contributed nothing to humanity. Restoring the past can only backdate most of the development for African people. So it is a mere idea to have sense of belong that is meaningless in the modern world. A world that is inching close to a single idea for all. Mr. culture advocate!

all4naija:
In fact without the same white people you would still have been in slavery by now. The past American civil war is a testament to the fact that not all whites support slavery. Labeling all white people to be systematically bad is racism.

all4naija:
You are trying to be assertive in this your paragraph without any direction though. It is absolutely palpable African American culture is a precedent of African culture. How can a people originate from African without having knowledge of some of the culture? That is not possible. even if it is there is always a genetic harmonization that would not take away some of the traits. The hip-hop, being good in Athletic sports, etc are as the result of Africa due to traits of origin.

all4naija:
Oh, yeah! When people refuse to make changes to aging culture it becomes primitive in a modern world. Most of the barbarism in African culture are seen every day and are not helping to move the people forward. Yes, it is barbaric to practice savagery in modern day sense. I cannot embrace Juju in its dirtiness as way to live. If you are be my guest and move with it to your forest village. I will encroach there one day to let you know how modernity is better and superior.

all4naija:

I am not an i d i o t ! Africa becomes relevant when people like me stand to move forward by making changes to those archaic practices which aren't helping the people to develop. Only to see that at the end those things subject them to primitive life and make them look like animals in the forest in the 21st century. Go to forest villages in Africa to have good definition of African culture and how it has blinded the people to modernization, developed society and organized life.

all4naija:
I don't need to even learn from the past to know that war is bad, slavery is inhumane, etc. History has always been there even those who pretend to learn from it still commit evil. We have seen how WW I paved the way for WW II. History is not the solution but the ability to device a means to stop hate and live together as human race does. In fact referencing history bad past can create animosity in people or even lead to war as in the case of WW II. Stop being petulant!

all4naija:
Blacks are not Aborigine but Aborigines are negroid. Nigerians are blacks but are not Aborigines,etc. That is the classification by phynotypes. Indeed, black people comes from Africa.

all4naija:
You don't need to care because denial is even worse than ignorance. If you are taking the path of denial that is your decision not mine. The outsider's idea only applies to nomenclature regarding where you belong else I have a black paternity. That lays credence to why I am in a position to talk on this matter. You keep making things up, in the fact that you cannot see nobody is dictating for your people is appalling all rather ridiculous about your points.

I don't really understand you last lines.

all4naija:
Huh! Bleh! Keep deceiving yourself not me.

mags5222:

You're a weak minded id8t how can you call yourself a yoruba or igbo and spew such nonsense? How can you look in the mirror? This just goes to show you're more fcked up than many blacks here in the US.

all4naija:
You can cry me a river! I am not going to be a part of your primitive plan.

mags5222:

So you're calling your own people weak and primitive? So you feel inferior, you hate your culture. And you want me as a black american to subscribe to this ideology?

all4naija:
I am not going to be a part of that primitive cultural practice. That is not inferiority, you goat head! You are simply a clueless African American without good knowledge. I would advise you get a proper education. It is not ideology, it is reality.

mags5222:

B--tch stop trying to make blacks all seem like they were f--king slaves! I hate clowns like you because you peddle this bullshit! Not all blacks were slaves so stop assigning a f---king slave designation to them. The issue happened during Jim crow, not fucking slavery. Everyone was a f---king slave.

all4naija:
These are your own made up claims. I am not going to accept that without you providing any source to that.

khiaa:

You are crazy and borderline psychotic, with a lack of comprehension. Where in any of my post did I say all blacks were slaves. From this last post from you to me I see that I have been conversing with an id.iot with the mentality of a 3 year old. Don't bother posting to me again, you are on ignore.

khiaa:


lol Mag5222 is your mirror image, both of you compliment each other well. Two psychotic idi.ots.

mags5222:

Proper education = Proper brainwashing. Your ideas of primitive cultural practice was given to you by Whites.

khiaa:


lol Mag5222 is your mirror image, both of you compliment each other well. Two psychotic idi.ots.

Smh...! I can cure you of your disease if you want me to!

mags5222:

Don't project your stupidity on me. That id(t wants to forget about the past, and your st8pid arse wants to act like blacks were the only slaves.

sexfiend: african american have a low self esteem . they any light skin black person must be mixed . african would call the nigerians below mixed .

all4naija:
They look ugly to me! Smh...! What are you trying to say with those unknown people images?!

all4naija: You are a reflection of primitive African Americans who go about the streets blaming the whites for their problems while at the same time committing crimes! Huh!

all4naija:
Yet you think you can make a different with your primitive plan. You are joking! The earlier you realize you are insane the better for you to move on with your pathetic life. African Americans culture is more or less gotten from Africa. The gangster life!

sexfiend: those are nigerian actresses and model . i'm just trying to tell that guy that there are numerous light skin nigerians with light brown eyes . they think everyone in nigeria is dark skin. they are trying to portray will smith or jada pinkett and beyonce as if all black americans look like them.

mags5222:

LOL of course you will say this because you look down on blacks in general.

sexfiend: african american have a low self esteem . they think any light skin or light brown black person must be mixed . they think any black person with light brown eyes must be mixed .
there are numerous light skin people from where i'm from and not once have anyone ever thought that they are mixed . african americans would call the nigerians below mixed .