frosbel:

Follow Jesus and not MAN.

It's that simple.

akaazua:

Since you know how to follow JESUS perfectly, you should be kind enough to tell us how best we can follow him.

akaazua:

1Tm:5:1: Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;

Image123:
you're not the first to misunderstand Jesus, I'll be mild on you. do you have any father or mother?

Joagbaje:

SECRET RAPTURE
I don't know what you mean by secret. But there's a rapture of the saints which will happen in a twinkling of an eye. Christians will be caught up. This is before the 7year tribulation. This is not the second coming.

1 Thessalonians 4:17
Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

Second chance at salvation after this 'rapture'

Yes After the rapture there will be second chance for those who are left behind. Israel to start with. It's during this 7 year tribulation that Israel shall be saved. So salvation will still be wrought in Israel and among Gentiles.

Romans 11:26
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Revelation 6:9-11
And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

That salvation will no more be by grace but death

Yes salvation will be by work. It's a common sense understanding. To be a christian during tribulation is a death sentence. Just like the scripture above. And this.

andromida: This Daddy GO and Mummy thing in the church is a personal thing one man may feel like calling the pastor papa because of how the pastor has impacted his life another may feel it is wrong. People must learn that their opinions are not binding on others. I cannot see what the idolatry is here if a member of a church decides that he wants to call his pastor papa that is his own business. If you feel it is idolatry then you should not do it since your conscience has judged you but there is liberty in Christ.

fergusen: @OP I think U need to study the bible properly rather than writing false-hood.How do U even understand d Bible properly when U are not born again let alone filled with the Holy Spirit?
From ur write-up I doubt ur salvation.All what Deeper life teaches is based on The Bible.

Doctrine is the article of faith on which a believer's faith is anchored.

The Doctrines in the Bible which deeper Life teaches are:
1 THE HOLY BIBLE:39 bks of the old testament & 27 bks of the new testament, is the inspired word of God & the central theme of the Bible is CHRIST AND HIS WORK OF REDEMPTION. 2Timothy 3:16,17;John 20:31.

2 THE GODHEAD or HOLY TRINITY(consists of 3 separate,distinct, & recognizable personalities & qualities, perfectly united in ONE.D Father, D Son, and D Holy Ghost are different persons, co-eternal, co-existent and co-equal in power and divine attributes dat make each God. .Matt 3:16,17;2Corint 13:14;Matt 28:19,20.The Godhead is a great mystery which is clearly beyond d finite mind of the unsaved natural man)

3 THE VIRGIN BIRTH OF JESUS(Jesus never referred to any mortal, even Joseph, as His father.He always referred to God as His father:this is a prove of his virgin birth.Isaiah 7:14;Matt 1:18-25;Romans 1:4; 1Corint 15:3,4)

4 TOTAL DEPRAVITY SINFULNESS AND GUILT OF ALL MEN(Psalm 51:5;Job 14:4;Mark 7:21-23;Eph 2:1;Romans 3:23)

5 REPENTANCE(completely turning away from all sins & its deceitful pleasures which is required from every sinner before he can truly & effectively believe in jesus with saving faith.Prov 28:13;Isaiah 55:5;Ezekiel 18:21-23;Mark 1:5;2Corint 7:10;Heb 6:1-3;Acts 2:38;Acts 3:19;Acts 20:20,21;Luke 24:46,47)

6 RESTITUTION (making amends for wrongs done against fellowmen,restoring stolen things to their rightful owners, paying debts, giving back where one has defrauded, making confessions to the offended and apologizing to those slandered so as to have a consience void of offence toward God and man-Gen 20:1-8,14-18;Exodus 22:1-7;Lev 6:1-7;Numbers 5:6-8;James 4:17;james 5:6;Luke 19:8,9;Acts 23:1-5;Acts 24:16;Prov 6:3; 2Sam 12:1-6;Ezekiel 33:14-16)

7 JUSTIFICATION:God's grace through which one receives forgiveness & remission of sins & is counted righteous before God, through faith in the atoning blood of Jesus.Having thus been cleared of every guilt of sin,not on the basis of any personal merit but in the light of what christ had accomplished for mankind by his substitutionary death on the cross at calvary(Psalm 32:1,2;Isaiah 1:18;Micah 7:19;Acts 13:38)

Joagbaje:

Every church has doctrines . Some based on understding and revelation there . And some may be based on wrong interpretation of scriptures by leadership there. And some may just be man made. The early church had doctrinal differences too. Every one is right in his own eyes . But grounds are shifting . Christ is purging the church to be pure. Every doctrine tree that is not of him will uprooted before the rapture . There will be unity of the faith and purity in the church.

Ephesians 4:13-14
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

Image123:

doctrine is not just teaching or tradition, it is the core beliefs. Teachings and traditions are flexible as it were, but doctrine is Bible and foundation . for instance, I went to deeper life and redeem 's websites through these links.
http://www.dclm.org/AboutUs/WhatWeBelieve/DoctrinesShortForm/tabid/158/Default.aspx

http://ss.rccgnet.org/teacher/

the doctrines there are not their own or man made. They are universal and eternal Scripture truths. doctrine is not style or tradition.

frosbel: Some practises I became familar with during my time with deeper life.

1. Tithe or you are under a curse
2. You must consult you pastor before you marry
3. No wedding rings
4. The church doctrines are 100% bible doctrines and cannot be challenged, to do so means you are an apostate
5. The church doctrines are infallible and are backed by the infallible leadership.
6. They are above the rest when it comes to holiness
7. False rapture theories
8. Second chance at salvation during the great tribulation
9. They control your dressing
10. The church takes over your life , no time for family
11. Individuality is compromised
12. Challenge one doctrine and you are out
13. Trinity
15. Ability to think out of the box is stifled.


You can add many more here.

frosbel: ^^

But you have left out the other doctrines such as tithing, rapture etc.

haibe:

False, tithing is not a doctrine in deeper life, stop posting what you are not sure of !

[quote author=haibe]Frosbel, here are the 21 cardinal doctrines of DLBC!
So can i see your criticisms

1. Holy bible is the inspired word of God.

2. Godhead

3. Virgin birth of Jesus

4. Total depravity, sinfulness and guilt of all men

5. Repentance

7. Justification

8. Water baptism

9. The lord's supper

10. Entire sanctification

11. Holy ghost baptism

12. Redemption

13. Personal evangelism

14. Marriage

15. Rapture

16. Resurrection of the dead

17. The great tribulation

18. The second coming of christ

19. Christ's millennial reign

20. The great white throne judgement

21. The new Heaven and new earth

22. The hell fire

frosbel:


When was the last time you checked the bible to confirm if all those doctrines are true ?

SMH @ a brother.

frosbel:

Okay , tell them to stop preaching Malachi 3:9 every Sunday !!

Image123:
the deeper life site states that the 22doctrines are Bible doctrines, not deeper life doctrines, and i agree with that. which of the doctrines did you not see in the Bible, and why are they different from the ones you initially listed in the op. Your attempt to slander them has failed, you liar liar.

haibe:

Lol, they dont even spend their time on prosperity preaching before, 98% of their preachings is about salvation and holiness.

Are you sure you really ever attended a DL church?

Pastor Kun:

Again you confirm yourself to be a daft and ill informed idol worshipper going by the list of charlatans you put up here. Are these merchants supposed to be your standard or christ? Can you name one single one of them that is genuinely christ like Boy, you seriously need to retrace your steps and stop all this pastor worship.

[quote author=haibe]Frosbel, are you saying escatological studies are wrong.

If you dont believe in hell, christ millenial reign, great tribulation,and rapture, then what difference does it make with you and other christian cults

What concerns them with marriage? Lol, the most ignorant person have ever met, you for ask apostle paul sef wetin concern am with marriage, mtchew.

My bro frosbel, i see you are just a critic of deeperlife because of what doesnt please you that they undergo, not becos of any truth, be alone! Satisfy ur lustful desire.

studM:

@pastor kun,
av neen following ur comment,i must say u must b totally deluded and confused

frosbel:

I was a worker !

Thank God I left, it feels so free to follow Jesus and not adhere to the doctrines of MEN and their tradition.

Who want's to be perpetually miserable .

I am used to your insults, not sure what spirit has possessed you.

You are so used to false doctrine you need my help , honestly

Anyway let us revisit my original post :

Regarding points 3 and 4 , I stand on my statement 100%

Image123: @frosbel

you're a liar and a cheat, live honestly with it or better still repent. You don change am like devil, original indeed. you should be more concerned about the thing that possesses you.

What are the church doctrines, does the church claim to have any doctrine? Their site states Bible doctrines, not Deeper Life doctrines. you said "4. The church doctrines are 100% bible doctrines and cannot be challenged, to do so means you are an apostate"
I'm yet to see deeper life say they have church doctrines, and i wonder what sort of church would ask people to challenge Bible doctrines. i'm yet to see a christian that questions the church's business with marriage. The op fits among those having no memory of how he was made clean from his old sins. This one thinks leaving deeperlife equals seeing the light, or stop tithing equals salvation, pathetic ignorance. knowing Jesus is to see light.

Pro 18:1 He who keeps himself separate for his private purpose goes against all good sense.
Pro 18:2 A foolish man has no pleasure in good sense, but only to let what is in his heart come to light.

frosbel:

After I heard that you were a tithe advocate par excellence your stance became more clear to me.

Carry on