killuminati: and wat about those christians dat killed muslims in jos and even ate up they meats...? What do we call dem? Cannibalistic christians, abi?

tintingz: oju eja lomo je . . .every word of Jesus is parables in the bible even if he said he wants to sleep na parable? Lol. . .one reason why he order his disciples to sell their garments and buy swords?

ola_pluto: Very many flimsy thinkers on this forum. I do not blame them, afterall its religion we're discussing. My 'God' is better than yours. We are peaceful and you're not, etc. Self-justification is as delusional as it gets. Only a few people have set the facts straight.
1. Do Christians REALLY not fight when they feel their 'God' or Jesus is insulted? Offcourse they do! The reaction? more violent than Muslims. The tactics? Peaceful Mission. Its like watching a James Bond film. Once a person is designated the bad guy in the movie, then the good guy is OK to kill him. That is the tactic of the violent Christians. We have the videos and blogs that are extremely violent and based on Islamophobia. The urge to kill and destroy. However, the owners and sponsors of these websites are OK to dress in suits and shake hands with Obama and world leaders because they have been designated the 'good guys'.
The other day when Israel blew up a UN school filled with kids and women, they immediately went into the 'good guy' mode. When that failed, they invoked the collective guilt of the world's good guys. They said 'you accuse us of killing innocents, you have done same too'.
The same Israel is currently openly threatening a war on the world, and they are stll the good guys.
As Nigerians, we need to think deep and do it intelligently. Let us all pause and think of the world we live in. Why do Muslims get angry? Who triggers the anger? Why are the responses so violent in some areas. Is the anger matching the provocation? I believe most reponses nowadays is bloated mainly by events of the past.
FOR TOO LONG HAVE MUSLIMS BEEN WRONGLY BOXED INTO THE VIOLENCE TAG WHEN REALLY MOST OF THE AGGRESSION HAS BEEN FROM OTHER RELIGIONS.
Best Example of the above statement: The day the Christian Norway man killed so many, The UK SUN newspaper had an initial heading blaming Muslims. Everything then was assumed to be from Muslims. I think the world is getting more foolish.

jude33084:

I believe Ŧħåϯ whatever we are doin or saying should be related Ť☺ Nigeria christians or muslims. How should Wђɑ̤̥̈̊† happened in Denmark, Isreal or US affect us in Nigeria? Are we Danish or Amriacan? Why do muslims in Nigeria(up north) kill their brothers here just because of what happened in Denmark or US? Did we provok them? Have U̶̲̅ any human sympathy at all? So because one hausa ♏ãn called ♍♈ God names in τhe north I should kill innocent hausa ♏ãn in τhe south? Does Ŧħåϯ make any sense Ť☺ U̶̲̅? I have been Ť☺ Dubai(UAE) aŋԂ I know how they treat our muslims(blacks) yet U̶̲̅ pick up arms Ť☺ kill because killing is legalise in koran

Stop τhe Killing aŋԂ People will Regard Islam

Ozichim: There is nothing to ague in this topic, the whole world know that Christians are not violent. Use Jesus Christ life as an example to prove this. Jesus is the Christian yardstick. Christians are trying to follow the foot step of Jesus. infact Jesus asked his followers/lovers to carry their cross and follow him. Jesus asked his followers not to return evil for evil and if slapped to turn the other cheek for another slap. Jesus even asked his followers to love & pray for their enemy.


Christianity is a stumbling block to many, anyone that kicked this stone will have his leg broken and if this stone(Christianity) should fall on anybody it will grind the person to pieces.

The reason for all this is that, it will be so terrible for anybody that refused/failed to accept Jesus Christ in this life, hereafter.

ghazzal:

How did "Sodom & Gomorrah" a good reference Start, was it overnight or that people influence people with time and it became a norm. it is important we check ourselves else God`s wrath is much more severe. Not that VIOLENCE is good but let the target audience know the truth (of what is blasphemy) and that it is bad.... If we keep Quiet that God we fight for himselve, majority will be in the LOST FLOCK by then.............. "SODOM & GOMORRAH" in the making.......

some people are scared of God`s wrath and will distance themselves from it by all ACCEPTABLE, possible means. if some of them go beyond the acceptable limit, they also need to be checked.

Ozichim: There is nothing to ague in this topic, the whole world know that Christians are not violent. Use Jesus Christ life as an example to prove this. Jesus is the Christian yardstick. Christians are trying to follow the foot step of Jesus. infact Jesus asked his followers/lovers to carry their cross and follow him. Jesus asked his followers not to return evil for evil and if slapped to turn the other cheek for another slap. Jesus even asked his followers to love & pray for their enemy.


Christianity is a stumbling block to many, anyone that kicked this stone will have his leg broken and if this stone(Christianity) should fall on anybody it will grind the person to pieces.

The reason for all this is that, it will be so terrible for anybody that refused/failed to accept Jesus Christ in this life, hereafter.

ola_pluto:
My problem with you (and your kind of person) is that you cannot think independently. You're a one way thinker. You're not ready to learn or to think deep. You are very shallow and ignorant. Thats not the best way to follow a religion. Google the word 'Conjectures'-thats what most of your posts have been.

Ozichim:

You are completely wrong. Jesus did not mean metal sword for fighting in battle. Some disciple also thought Jesus was referring to metal/Iron sword but he told them to stop when one of the disciple said that he has one sword with him. Infact when one of the disciple cut off some bodies ear while trying to defend Christ, Jesus immediately rebuked him and warned the disciple not to fight for him, that if he want to fight he will send angels to do the fighting. Jesus then went on to heal the man whole ear was cut off. Also note that the man whole ear was cut off was one of those that came to arrest Christ.



Warning for all Muslims, Be not deceived, Christian God is not the same as Muslim god(Allah). They are completely different.

Ozichim:

You are completely wrong. Jesus did not mean metal sword for fighting in battle. Some disciple also thought Jesus was referring to metal/Iron sword but he told them to stop when one of the disciple said that he has one sword with him. Infact when one of the disciple cut off some bodies ear while trying to defend Christ, Jesus immediately rebuked him and warned the disciple not to fight for him, that if he want to fight he will send angels to do the fighting. Jesus then went on to heal the man whole ear was cut off. Also note that the man whole ear was cut off was one of those that came to arrest Christ.



Warning for all Muslims, Be not deceived, Christian God is not the same as Muslim god(Allah). They are completely different.

Ozichim:

Can you make your point clear.
Even when Roman Catholic is fighting with Protestant, it is assumed to be Christians against Christians. Not Christians against another religion or unbeliever. Moreover they are fighting for who will secure more land or wealth and, as I said don't judge Christianity with anybodies life, use the Jesus life/Bible to check what Christianity is all about.

If we use Mohammed life to Judge/check Islam you know what we will arrest Mohamed for homicide and ethnic cleansing, Mohamed will be asked to defend himself in world curt for man slaughter etc, believe me, if it is now, Mohamed will be life imprisoned.

plappville: 1 Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

If God weakness is stronger than Men then why should man fight for God? Christians are not disputers, they are to:

"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." ( John 13:34-35)

The Muslims believe fighting/disputing is the best and only way they can defend thier faith, they are taught to do so.

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things." This is a proof of none existance of thier god, He cannot fight for ITself.

plappville: 1 Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

If God weakness is stronger than Men then why should man fight for God? Christians are not disputers, they are to:

"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." ( John 13:34-35)

The Muslims believe fighting/disputing is the best and only way they can defend thier faith, they are taught to do so.

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things." This is a proof of none existance of thier god, He cannot fight for ITself.

abarry001:

If u don't know how to enlighten people, is better you keep mute rather than insulting someone religion, why would u say " This is a proof of none existence of their god, He cannot fight for ITself" ? Do u know d implication of what u just said? You better ask for forgiveness

Sweetnecta: @italo: i wanted to respond to the "near extinction" of reyginus and then i saw your entry.
let me share a reality of how an earlier muslim man shut up a christian missionary of his day:

the christian asked the muslim if Muhammad [sa] was the last messenger [sa], why didnt Allah help and safeguard his grandson Hussaine [ra] instead of allowing him to be killed?

Fair and smart question until the muslim gave a knock out punch of an answer:

Muhammad [sa] was bold enough and probably furious with Yahweh, the muslim said.
Yahweh burst into tears and apology.

He said that even His own begotten son He couldn't protect as he was killed by hanging.


Swallow that for a moment.

We know who is the liar and we know who is not alive and we know who is weak and we know who does not care enough to stand for God.

nyabingi: [b]it beats my imagination why Islam is globally associated with violence yet they claim it is a religion of peace, just cast your mind back and try to remember all the abominable terror perpetuated to mankind, you would come to the conclusion that indeed there is another ideology behind the Muslem world, a kind of ideology that tends toward violence and terror.

Even here in Nigeria we have had our fare share of the Jihad against non Muslims, 99.9% of all violence that has occurred in this country happens up north which is predominantly Muslim region but if you bring these points to national discussions , politicians especially those of northern extract will be quick to argue that the violence had nothing to do with religion.

The point remains that these terrorist use Islam symbols, Slogans (Alahu Akbar!), Beliefs and ideologies like Jihad to perpetuate crime against humanity and negates the very principle of cohabitation, it also does not matter whether other Muslim share in their opinions or not!![/b]

rbjimoh: [color=#006600][/color]
Of course, you are right. Absolutely! How can Allah, the creator, be the same as His creation? Not possible! The fluck of Christians are in manifest error. How can you explain your followership of a Trinitian religion: one-in-three gods? If Jesus was sent to save the world, it follows, logically, that all men that do not accept him as their personal saviour would not be saved,right? If that is true, what then becomes of the thousands of prophets that came before Jesus, and their generations? What sense does the Christian ridiculous dogma that all newborn babies come into the world as sinners? That they inherited sins from their forebearers, Adam and Eve? God is far just than to punish the son for the sins of his parents.
Islam came to explain out the drowning pit of folly that the Christians and Jews have fallen. Sine qua none attribute of a Being that must be called God is that :He must not be conditioned by Time and Space. If God truely came into the world in form of man, who was then ruling the universe in His absence? Can't you guys see the apparent lies and misfortunes here? If the miraculous birth of Jesus is what confuses the Christians and so, for that reason,they call him, first,the son of God,and later, God, what then would they say of the miraculous creation of Adam and Eve? The Bible, of course, contains some uncompromised words of God, but what it is today isn't but conjecture of some fools. How many versions of Bible are there today in the world?
The Qur'an remains what it was when it was revealed to the unlettered Apostle and would continue to be so forever.Glory be to Allah! The Lord of the worlds, Who begot not and Himself not begotten. In the hierarchy of sins, Atheism is number one, polytheism two, and others follow. The first two are not forgiveable except with sincere repentance before death overtakes man. All other sins are forgiveable even without repentance, if Allah chooses. Christianity falls in the second category. The Christian proposition is an association of partnership with God, giving what His alone to His creation.

maclatunji:

Say what?

dublinkmy6: Another senseless thing is this-- how can muslims claim to believe that Jesus Christ is a (prophet), yet they don't believe his prophecy and teachings? That's a hell of senselessness and i think you can only find that in Islam. I challenge any muslim to prove me wrong!!!

vedaxcool:

And so if I chant your father name and commit a crime it means your father sent me to commit the crime? The porous logic of people like you remains the reason why Nigeria keeps drifting the wrong route when common simple sense can be applied it turns to a race of the dullards.