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Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by dragz: 9:00am On Oct 08, 2012 |
hugafella: I have read all you guys have said, and it seems like Afghanistan in here. But lets be objective. First of all, the justification for the war is unquestionable. A pogrom of any kind must be resisted.Secondly, I would be better prepared in a war if you spelled it out right from the outset that you were my enemy. But when you suddenly become a turncoat and betray me right in the middle of things, it becomes rather painful. Awo, whether we like to hear it or not did not act like a fine gentleman. He remained on the fence and surprisingly aligned with our enemies to harm us. 2 million children starved to death, those kids were the future generation of engineers, lawyers, soldiers, or professors. They were not fighters. The Ojukwu I know would never have done that to the Yorubas. But the good news is that we have moved on. Afterall, I dare anyone to tell me any tribe that has more faith in the Nigeria project than the ibo man. This is self evident in his willingness to invest in and develop all nooks and crannies of the land. The questions we should be asking is this: who are the true patriots? Is it those who invest in all parts of Nigeria? Or those who would prefer to destroy Nigeria if they cannot rule? Put in another way, we can now see how far Awo's actions have brought us. Are we now more united in Nigeria?is Nigeria moving forward? Have the hausa not squandered our collective resources? Even though they contribute little? But some people seem to be comfortable in the face of injustice, while others confront it head on. The latter group should never be criticized for doing so. Because, it is because of such critics that Nigeria is where it is today. My final point- never be afraid of your past. No matter how ugly, They inform your future decisions. If you don't know where you are coming from, you can't know where you are going.. Dis same ibos dt want to declare republic or gaddafi next month? 1 Like |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by Desola(f): 9:01am On Oct 08, 2012 |
hugafella: I have read all you guys have said, and it seems like Afghanistan in here. But lets be objective. First of all, the justification for the war is unquestionable. A pogrom of any kind must be resisted.Secondly, I would be better prepared in a war if you spelled it out right from the outset that you were my enemy. But when you suddenly become a turncoat and betray me right in the middle of things, it becomes rather painful. Awo, whether we like to hear it or not did not act like a fine gentleman. He remained on the fence and surprisingly aligned with our enemies to harm us. 2 million children starved to death, those kids were the future generation of engineers, lawyers, soldiers, or professors. They were not fighters. The Ojukwu I know would never have done that to the Yorubas. But the good news is that we have moved on. Afterall, I dare anyone to tell me any tribe that has more faith in the Nigeria project than the ibo man. This is self evident in his willingness to invest in and develop all nooks and crannies of the land. The questions we should be asking is this: who are the true patriots? Is it those who invest in all parts of Nigeria? Or those who would prefer to destroy Nigeria if they cannot rule? Put in another way, we can now see how far Awo's actions have brought us. Are we now more united in Nigeria?is Nigeria moving forward? Have the hausa not squandered our collective resources? Even though they contribute little? But some people seem to be comfortable in the face of injustice, while others confront it head on. The latter group should never be criticized for doing so. Because, it is because of such critics that Nigeria is where it is today. My final point- never be afraid of your past. No matter how ugly, They inform your future decisions. If you don't know where you are coming from, you can't know where you are going. My foe, do not mistake greed, selfishness, self-centredness and necessity for patriotism. That the ibos are investing in other regions does not reveal their "patriotism" or belief in the Nigerian project. Their moving forth into other regions is borne out of the need to survive. They know that no right thinking Nigerian would come to their region and after their fruitless attempt at secession, the government had lost interest in planting anything in their land for lack of trust and their commitment to the Nigerian project. Ibos are traders and in order to succeed, they have to go to their markets and their markets are not in the east but in the west and the north. Ibos loathe Nigeria but loves its money and that is what you are mistaking for patriotism. An ibo man would do all within and without his means to earn money and that is why he is going about setting up in other regions to make the money by all mean; not because of some stupid belief in one Nigeria! To the iboman, it is all about the benjamins, baby! 3 Likes |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by Chimanet(m): 9:03am On Oct 08, 2012 |
dragz: . Y so bitter,n den u put lmao to hide ur bitterness,I'm sorry for ur biiternessam waiting for wen una go drag us comot lagos with envy and jealousy. lazy folks |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by aryzgreat: 9:05am On Oct 08, 2012 |
Got this from my fb wall, d writer summarises awolowo d murderer! Earlier today, I posted this on my facebook wall. |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by Desola(f): 9:09am On Oct 08, 2012 |
Chimanet: am waiting for wen una go drag us comot lagos with envy and jealousy. lazy folks ...but of course, we know that is what makes you sleep at night. How else are you to console yourself after a thorough beat down and anihilation in war? Your self esteem has taken a real knocking to it, collectively as a people and making little money here and there out of junk and drug pushing is still money, afterall. If you believe that it is pride to build a mansion on sand which tides can come along and wash away at any time, then by all means, continue to dwell in your la-la land. A wise man builds on the rocks, darling. |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by Chimanet(m): 9:12am On Oct 08, 2012 |
Desola:See these girl that loves money o, please tell me if you will want to date a poor man? igbos go to other regions becouse the partial federal goverment have refused to give them enuf infastructure that can contain their business. so madam i tot in nigeria u r free to live and do ur business anywhere u want to, abi? please educate me the meaning of 1 nigeria? abi its a policy used to milk other peoples oil? we have come to your regions to teach your lazy brothers the meaning of 1 nigeria.lol please you pple should come of your envy of igbos success in your lands joor 2 Likes |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by Chimanet(m): 9:16am On Oct 08, 2012 |
Desola:please wat is the reason of awlowo fighting for 1 nigeria when he knows that at the end his kins men wont be able to establish their business in some other part of the 1 nigeria? please you guys should not allow the envy of igbos progressing in ur lands overide your spirit of 1 nigeria |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by Chimanet(m): 9:35am On Oct 08, 2012 |
una don taya of supporting bad thing? am really disappointed at some pple, wats the meaning of the so called 1 nigeria if when i decide to do business in other pple lands it turns to investment on a sandy soil? please fellow compatriot be bold enuf to defend the 1 nigeria ur uncle helped in formulateing a policy that took about 1 million iives? am not saying ojukwu or gowan are saints but please lets be truthful to our selves without tribalistic sentiments 1 Like |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by Nobody: 10:26am On Oct 08, 2012 |
Desola: And you ran away from Nigeria to see what the skies look like in UK, mtscheeeew |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by kagel: 10:28am On Oct 08, 2012 |
kindabigg: Shameless old man! withdraw the statement "shameless"if it to my achebe,but if the shameless as u called was ment for awolowo and other that will be ok 1 Like |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by nextpart(m): 10:48am On Oct 08, 2012 |
Is Achebe not used by northern politicians to cause disunity in the south? Why raise the dead issue now? |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by charles424(m): 10:58am On Oct 08, 2012 |
Real-Mccoy: You ingrate,he who fight and run away live to fight another day..where is the single man nowis he in your fathers backyardyou come to yoruba land from your village we open your eyes,u make money here,because of our love for you all,now you turn ur back to say jagons to us...Who is achebe?? Did yorubas ask your foolish leaders to start warBlame yourselves. 1 Like |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by phemi01(m): 11:32am On Oct 08, 2012 |
ALL OF YOU ARE INTERNET ADDICTS. ALWAYS LOOKING FOR A FORUM OR BLOG TO SAY THE RUBBISH IN UR FILTHY MINDS. STOP BRAGGING ON THE INTERNET THERE'S A YORUBA/IGBO MAN IN YOUR OFFICE/STREET/, WHY DON'T YOU JUST STAB HIM/HER AND LET D BATTLE BEGIN! FOOLISH INTERNET WARRIORS. FIGHTING OVER A DEAD MAN IN D GRAVE AND A HALF DEAD MAN IN USA. NiGERIA IS JUNGLE FILLED WITH BARBARIC ANIMALS. 2 Likes |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by UdekeJ(m): 12:00pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Awo's daughter or whatsoever she calls her self should be grateful to God that the said Awo is nw dead! He ought to be answering war crime like men of his class, the likes of Charlse Taylor, idi Amin etc. Gowon is paying his own dues to karma! I have a question 4 u guys, why did Nigeria Govt gave Ojukwu a state burial? Nigeria can nt pay ibo's the reparation they own them. |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by Sheriffc(m): 12:03pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Niccolo Machiavelli in one of his outstanding thesis titled 'The Prince' averred that " ... the arms of a nation are hallowed when it has no other resource but to fight." He further stated that " ...in the matter of war, I am allowed the usage of any manner of weaponry in order to win." I also know of this popular saying that it does not matter how you kill your enemy, as long as it dies. Awolowo's allegiance at that time was with the Federal Govt, thus his advice to Gowon to block food transit to The East. Questions: where was Nnamdi Azikiwe before and during the war? Did he give his blessing to Dim to go to war with Nigeria? What role did he play during the life of that country called Biafra? These are just passing thought. |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by olubayo1(m): 12:14pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Igbo ppl, una don come again! Wateva Awolowo did, as earlier confirmed by someone, was during a war. You seriously dont expect him to help those people who were about to cause division in the country? Be that as it may, Awolowo is, regardless of what Achebe writes, a National icon. Awolowo has contributed beautifuuly, his quota to the development of Nigeria. Little wonder alot of politicians always want to be associated with him (though majority are fake as they dont stand for wat Awo stood for). I beg to ask Mr. Chinua abi shey na China (?) Achebe, in wat way has he contributed to the development of the country? Shey na because dem interprete "Things Fall Apart" for over 53 languages? Na dt one u wan chop? Truth is: Achebe dislikes the Yoruba race! Little wonder he told Soyinka shortly after he was made a Nobel Laurete: "Just because you are a Nobel Laurete doesnt make you the 'oba' of literature in Africa" Abeg help me ask Achebe: Shey na Soyinka fault say dem no recognize am for such award? ENVY! I used to respect Achebe, but this time, he has gone too far! Abeg una Igbo ppl, call ur kinsman to order and tell him to limit his literaturic dance to the fiction he is known for! |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by Sheriffc(m): 12:17pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Niccolo Machiavelli in one of his outstanding thesis titled 'The Prince' averred that " ... the arms of a nation are hallowed when it has no other resource but to fight." He further stated that " ...in the matter of war, I am allowed the usage of any manner of weaponry in order to win." I also know of this popular saying that it does not matter how you kill your enemy, as long as it dies. Awolowo's allegiance at the time of the civil war was with the Federal Govt, thus his advice to Gowon to block food transit to The East; this I believe was a reasonable advice, I do not mean to sound barbarous since a huge number of persons died. And also do not read this as a way of justifying the reason for the adoption of Awo's, I believe, brilliant advice. But I believe if Dim or Biafra had such weapon it would also had used it against Nigeria. When war comes, all that the partaker would think of is a way to win. Questions: where was Nnamdi Azikiwe before and during the war? Did he give his blessing to Dim to go to war with Nigeria? What role did he play during the life of that country called Biafra? These are just passing thought. |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by ikeyman00(m): 12:20pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
^^^^ to those 2 up there the only option left is simply accept the truth so we can move on yall stop postin these bu llshit plz |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by Nobody: 12:38pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
CyberG: eebo, Igbo, ibo, yigbo all is bo bo bo.....you are so wicked CyberG....u wan finish these ebbos........unsecured people....make unna no worry....start another civil war and we shall see who OWNS LAGOS.....Useless FEOFLE. |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by reporter1: 12:40pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Igbos are funny people I swear whining all over the place that their enemy did not feed them. See how reta-rded that sound? Better still, why not ask Gowon to supply you weapons too. You murdered sleep when you went on ethnic cleansing in Jan 1966. That event will forever haunt Igbos. Tip for Igbos -do not start what you can't finish. |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by gunboot: 12:55pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
olivertwist:I agree wth you totally. Whatever we beat at night is mosquito. What awo did was applying a war strategy to help his side win and it worked for him and could have benn applied by anyother side in the war. No regrets. But it should be accepted as truth anytime it is said which awo himself did accept. If he were to be on the side of Biafra, he will apply the same strategy if the opportunity calls. Sure, he didn't do that because the Igbos were involved. But I must be quick to add that this is pain and so not easy to forget. 1 Like |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by Nobody: 2:10pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Now that Achebe has spoken his Mind and virtually Indigbo has gone frenzy about it........my questions are : Will Ohanaeze/Ala-Igbo declare war on Yoruba or Nigeria ? And of what importance is what Achebe wrote concerning Awo's impact in Civil war ,1967? How true is it ? What Happens to Ojukwu's word declaring Awolowo as the best President Nigeria never had........ ? Now that Achebe has spoken........and what happens ? Another war ? Renowned personality like Achebe shdn't PLANT discord in the HEART of the people......If Nigeria shd divide tomo o we shall still need one another....... Achebe shd be an elder statesman and peace ambassador......the consequence of what he has written today may have ''Adverse'' effect for life when he too would have passed on !!!!!............. So, the Man has been rejecting National Award cuz it's from Nigerian Government ?.........hmmm ? Now WHAT !!!! |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by Sheriffc(m): 3:11pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
aryzgreat: Got this from my fb wall, d writer summarises awolowo d murderer! I took time to read your submission and also the interview of The Sage. But in all you said, you failed to make some of us, I suppose, reason along your line of thoughts. You burdened your epistle with tribal tone thus allowing that, with due respect, becloud your sense of unbias reasoning on this issue. It was clear from the beginning of this epistle that you had a pre-determined perception and you have concluded in your mind that Awolowo did an evil thing against the Igbos and whatever he had to say does not matter; that is, believe me, our problem in this country. It is very sensible that as an educated individuals we reason rationally without fraughting it with emotion. Aside burdening the epistle with tribal and emotive tone, you failed to answer some of the questions posed by The Sage. During the war, Ojukwu and the other elites of Biafra with their children never look like a people at war, they were well fed while the Biafran populace were 'Kwashorkwoed'. The like Phillip Effiong, Mbanefon and other Biafran Elites had their children and extended family members well fed and protected when the children of the commoners were woodwinked to war when it was so glaring that the possibility that they might be killed was so high. |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by Seyilome(m): 3:26pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
emmykk: achebe is intelligent and should not be said to be lying.is like saying wole soyinka is a shameless old man on any issue he write about,even though wole soyinka cannot be compare with achibe.achibe is greater.U MUST BE A PATHETIC FOOL FOR COMPARING PROF WOLE SOYINKA WITH AN ORDINARY POETRY MAN CALLED ACHEBE WHO HAS NEVER WON NOBEL PRIZE AND WILL NEVER WIN IT. |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by dasparrow: 3:28pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
@Post I don't know why there is so much back and forth bickering. Most of the people on this thread including my humble self were not even born while the Biafra war was raging. I also don't understand why the memoir of Prof. Achebe is causing so much raucous. Prof. Achebe only penned down what he observed and I think he has a right to do so. If some people disagree with what he wrote in his book, they are welcome to write their own book. Life is too short for all this unnecessary hatred and back and forth bickering. Maybe if Nigeria had kept to her side of the agreement that was reached in Aburi, the war may not have broken out. Likewise, if Nigeria had allowed the Igbos to go their separate way back then, we all won't be here right now arguing. Nigerians are not united anyway so I wonder why some Nigerians insist on forcing other Nigerians to remain in the geographical expression known as Nigeria. Later on, we wonder why there is no peace in Nigeria. |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by Ngodigha1(m): 3:34pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Seyilome: U MUST BE A PATHETIC FOOL FOR COMPARING PROF WOLE SOYINKA WITH AN ORDINARY POETRY MAN CALLED ACHEBE WHO HAS NEVER WON NOBEL PRIZE AND WILL NEVER WIN IT.Why not think about your joblessness and your miserable life?. What have you achieved in life, nigga?. |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by Nobody: 3:35pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Seyilome: U MUST BE A PATHETIC FOOL FOR COMPARING PROF WOLE SOYINKA WITH AN ORDINARY POETRY MAN CALLED ACHEBE WHO HAS NEVER WON NOBEL PRIZE AND WILL NEVER WIN IT. Just like any Igbo man ......Achebe writings are driven mainly for profit considerations...that is why his folks are boasting of how many times his fictitious book (Things They both writes for different purposes. |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by dabossman(m): 3:36pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Dede1: Why should telling the plain truth turned into controversy by certain moronic Nigerians? Awolowo had mercurially defended his policy of starvation as a weapon of war in several interviews he conducted. He even went further to elaborate by stating it was foolhardy to feed your enemy to be strong so as to continue fighting and prolonging the war. Err, while not saying Achebe is right or wrong since I was not born during the war, neither was I (or Achebe for that matter) a member of the ruling junta back then, I do wonder at the logic in your comment. Do the Americans supply food to the Taliban? Where they constantly shipping essential grains to Iraqis during the Gulf War? Did the Allied Forces provide sustenance for the Hitler-led Nazi Germany? I would want to think that a strategic move in a war situation would be to cut all forms of food and arms supply to your adversary. Now, if that equals war crimes, then Churchill, Roosevelt, George Bush Snr and Jnr as well as Obama should be on their way to the War Crimes Tribunal. Even today, various forms of aid are withdrawn by world powers to show their displeasure with certain "unfriendly" governments. Would you feed your enemy in a war situation? Just wondering. 1 Like |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by Desola(f): 3:41pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
CHESSBOARD: [/b] ...and you know this how? well, the UK and its immigrants is actually a very good comparison. The ibos to other parts of Nigeria are nothing but economic migrants who believe that they can do no good or succeed until they get to Yorubaland. |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by AkinDavid2: 3:45pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
The bitter truth is yet untold...Nigeria's problem is more complex than leadership! Achebe has a right to express his views but Awolowo's action goes beyond expression of views it was an action towards unity! |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by ubandire(m): 3:51pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
kindabigg: Shameless old man!.U are doomed. |
Re: Awolowo's Daughter To Achebe: We Are Disappointed by Nobody: 3:53pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Well we did it....!!! we starved Igbos.......we will deploy the strategy again if there is ever any reason for it. We accept we did it...but weren't gonna apologize for it. 1 Like |
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