Logicboy03: See this slowpoke? A youtube video?


Yes, there were Africans who profited from slave trade with Europeans.


[size=18pt]That doesnt change the fact that slavery was not in our culture. Most Nigerian cultures.[/size]

*Kails*:


wtf are you talking about?
The saharan slave trade happened WAY before the trans atlantic slave trade.
go read a book or something.

as for the romans again get real! the lands they conquered were all relatively close to their capital.

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Theodosius_I's_empire.png/250px-Theodosius_I's_empire.png[/img]

easy travel by boat or via chariot...never did they cross an entire DESERT and take. nor did they mountains..

*Kails*:


LMFAOOOOOOOO!

But I am the slow poke right?
see this bold face shameless LIAR!

*Kails*:


wtf are you talking about?
The saharan slave trade happened WAY before the trans atlantic slave trade.
go read a book or something.

as for the romans again get real! the lands they conquered were all relatively close to their capital.

[img]http://www.keyway.ca/gif/romanemp.gif[/img]

easy travel by boat or via chariot...never did they cross an entire DESERT and take. nor did they mountains..

EASY ACCESS...GET IT?!
So some random arabs traveled all the way to west africa via the largest desert on earth and straight conquered?

[img]http://1.bp..com/-1TT05vXJSes/TjZRCL8QpkI/AAAAAAAAAq8/3fRZe4z-eLQ/s1600/EdLover-CMonSon-Ep16.jpg[/img]

Arab conquest in Africa.
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Slaves were obtained through conquest, tribute from vassal states (in the first such treaty, Nubia was required to provide hundreds of male and female slaves), offspring (children of slaves were also slaves, but since many slaves wer[/b]e castrated this was not as common as it had been in the Roman empire), and purchase. The latter method provided the majority of slaves, and at the borders of the Islamic Empire vast number of new slaves were castrated ready for sale (Islamic law did not allow mutilation of slaves, so it was done before they crossed the border). The majority of these slaves came from Europe and Africa -- there were always enterprising locals ready to kidnap or capture their fellow countrymen.

Black Africans were transported to the Islamic empire across the Sahara to Morocco and Tunisia from West Africa, from Chad to Libya, along the Nile from East Africa, and up the coast of East Africa to the Persian Gulf. This trade had been well entrenched for over 600 years before Europeans arrived, and had driven the rapid expansion of Islam across North Africa.

By the time of the Ottoman Empire, the majority of slaves were obtained by raiding in Africa. Russian expansion had put an end to the source of "exceptionally beautiful" female and "brave" male slaves from the Caucasians -- the women were highly prised in the harem, the

Logicboy03:


Huh? So Nigerian tribes were selling slaves to each other or what?


lol or slaves were a commodity in Nigeria before the arrival of Foreigners?


LMAO!!!!


Slowpoke

*Kails*:


The name calling begins when the user is LOSING..

you are trying to tell me, that slavery nor indentured servitude had NOTHING to do with Nigerian history?

You said so yourself there were POWs right? You are trying to convince me, that the ancient ppl of Nigerian ONLY killed POWs?

Is that your final answer?

Are you also trying to convince me and your fellow Nigerians that a boat load of whites and a few nomaid arabs were that influential they were able to persuade the Hausa, Igbo, Yoruba etc. Ppls/kingdoms to sell their own kind just because?

You really must not view your forefathers in high regards.

Because according to your highly flawed logic, they were weak enough to allow foreigners to get them to sell their own kind...just because...lmao.

*Kails*:
Look at him nit picking facts to post...smh.

[size=18pt]OVER 30 MILLION AFRICANS were just taken away just like that?

in random raids?[/size]

GTFOH!

JallowBah:

Say what now? Irish were really black?

We all came from Africa at some point, so I can say that I am "really" black as well.

Vikings of Scandinavia tortured their way through many countries, took slaves..as far as I know, they were white a well.

Logicboy03: WTF is this?


I see people talkingabout white slavery on a Nigerian site as if Nigerians were buying white slaves?


Is this some kind of slavery apologist thingy to suppress the evil of the enslavement of blacks or African slavery?


Yes, Irish were enslaved. Very common knowledge if you bothered to read history. No one is denying that but of what relevance is this to a Nigerian site?

*Kails*:
^^um the majority of the indians died from DISEASE..GET IT RIGHT.


this is insulting not only to me ad a descendant of these people but to every african alive.

this is soo sad.

admit your ancestors fcked up for ONCE. They were not victims dude.
Face reality.

Even in those same raids you mentioned, the perps were almost always black.

navygrl: nigerian tribes did buy white Irish slaves mydear

Logicboy03:



Lol......Africans were not victims of the European enslavement of Africans? They rushed to the Europeans to sell themselves? You must live in Imaginary land. The natives ran with their brethren in cages as soon as the white men landed on the shores of Delta/Benin/Lagos?

*Kails*:
its amazing how closeminded some folks are.

what is it cute to be a victim all of the time?

evil is evil.

and evil comes in black, white and in between.

Africans were key players in ALL THREE slave trades and profited from them
until they were turned on in the end and conquered.

You sell your fittest men and women who were perfect to "breed" and expect not to get fcked over? lol and then when you do get fcked over YOURE the victims?

FOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Logicboy03:



Lol.......


See Kalis the uncle Tom.


My country Nigeria is currently a backwards place. I wl be the first to admit any wrong that my country does but I will never lie against my country or ancestors.



Kalis, by your logic, Jews were not victims of the Holocaust then because there were Jewish Nazi collaborators.

*Kails*:


are you kidding me?

the europeans BOWED to african kings and were given permission to stay in various kingdoms long enough to learn the language, customs and even which tribes didn't get along with others. Sure they played on the division - divide and conquer..but it was ALREADY THERE. The Kings/chiefs determined who was to be sold or spared.

THIS IS FACT!!

Stop it man.

It was all about power. Your kings sold their own tribesmen AND rivals!!

DENY THAT I DARE YOU!

*Kails*:


Never you come out of your shameless place and call me an uncle tom.

NEVER you do that.

Just because you are too ignorant and thick headed it doesn't mean I don't know history or lack commonsense. No you may not lie ON your ancestors but you are LYING about what they did. And in effort to make their deeds less disgusting you try to make them out to be wusses who were too afraid to fight back? Who just sold their own ONLY because of religion and fear?

Your argument makes no damn sense. A boat load of whites conquered Nigerians and ALL of west africa with no effort, just rolled up and instantly were feared? You're hilarious and ignoramus.

I am embarrassed for even taking you serious. Go read and get a clue.

Logicboy03:
Kalis, by your logic, Jews were not victims of the Holocaust then because there were Jewish Nazi collaborators.

Logicboy03: You must be 2 chromosomes away from being retar.ded.

*Kails*:


WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Imperialism and DIRECT selling of slaves, though related are DIFFERENT in this case.

And even then when the whites did "take over" in Africa it was STILL some Africans who like their ancestors profited on the blood of their own!

Look at what happened in the Congo! Patrice Lumumba was murdered by his own kind simply because he threatened their luxury! Being rich and being in league with the white man.

His story is not unique! It happened ALL over Africa why? GREEEEEEEED!!!!!!!!!!!

SO i am not saying EVERY nigerian was evil or involved. I am talking about those who were and had NO problem selling human lives for profit.

*Kails*:


hediot all it requires is one SINGLE EXTRA chromosome to make a person r3tarded.
having said that YOU should know better than I.

*Kails*:
i am probably the most afro centric person anybody will ever meet.
but i REFUSE to downplay african involvement in the slave trade.

REFUSE!

Logicboy03:

Lol.....sorry for my mistake, you're the expert in s.tupidity!

Logicboy03:


Did I downplay it?


All I said was that slavery was not a commodity before the foriegners came.


You overplayed it.


lol.....are you some Malcom X Nigga or something?