preciousoz: Stupidity is when you dont have a bicycle and you give your last penny to your pastor to buy a jet.......
Mumu is when you cant pay your childrens school fees and yet have money to contribute to your church to build expensive school which your children will never attend...Ignora­nce is when you believe it when
your pastors tells you not to live worldly life, and yet he enjoys all the best things in the world, the fine houses, cars, jets, babes etc, while you are waiting till you get to heaven to enjoy your own....Idiocy is when you refuse to take your very sick child to the hospital because your pastor said you should not do so, yet that same pastor secretly runs to USA for medical attention any time he has an headache...Kolo­ is when you see a poor beggar on the road and you refuse to give him 50 naira out of the 5000 naira in your pocket because it is your tithe money....You are a zombie when you trek, dance and gallivant for 30 kilometers under the hot sun sweating and smelling like shit during your revival program, while your pastor is inside a full option, factory fitted air-conditioned­ state of the art SUV with his delectable wife slowing driving along the road.
Stop worshiping your pastors!!! They are human being like you, they dont have no power! If they had power they claim they have, Nigeria would not be the way it is.

Deep Sight: Earlier this week (Tuesday, I believe) Pastor Matthew Ashimolowo was at HICC Church in Gbagada as a Guest Preacher.

He informed the audience that there is something he does which is called a 24 hour blessing in which those who tap into it receive a huge blessing within 24 hours. According to the Pastor, Those who wanted this special blessing were to come out and line up and sow a seed of USD $ 240.00 (Two hundred and forty USD).

He informed the congregation that there is also another special blessing which requires paying $100 and also asked those paying this sum to come out and form a second line.

He further said that those who wanted both special blessings should come forth and form a third queue between both queues and come out with $340.

All queues were full, long and crowded.

I was informed of this by a relative of mine who is a member of the Church and was filled with disgust.

He wondered why these "blessings" are not available to those who could not afford such sums.

frosbel: He should be in Prison not in the pulpit !!

dammytex: hmmmm Na wa oh

Let me start by saying I worship at KICC here at Maryland, Lagos Nigeria which happens to be the Nigerian HQ of KICC under Pastor Femi.

24hr miracle is a trademark message that Pastor Mathew has preached in over 100 churches worldwide. In fact, I don't think he'd stop anytime soon.

Giving is a matter of personal conviction. No matter what you say here, people will NEVER stop giving and pastors will NEVER stop encouraging people to give. THE TRUTH REMAINS THAT THERE IS POWER IN GIVING. Of course its not for everybody to believe. Nobody even sows better than these pastors if you care to believe.

For those of us that worship at KICC, we have sowed different variants of the 24hr seed. Sometimes its N24,000, 24 USD, 24USD. There is another one he encourages us to sow also; its called "blessing of a thousand times more than our fathers". Sometimes we also sowed for God's blessing taking us into another dimension of breakthrough. It's never an issue of do-or-die. Sow if you believe and if you don't, pls stay back.

I purposely wrote this to let you know that some people don't have problem sowing to these prophesies. If you call us fools, we'll tell you God bless you. For someone like me, I always look for an opportunity to sow into a fertile ground because I always reap more than 100% from sources I don't expect.

Just because Chinese Bhudist millionaires were not seed sowers does not mean i will not partake in what works for me. You just called them Bhudists, trust me they all have spiritual back ups that request one thing or the other from them. If only what I have is God and he requests my giving into his house, why will I relent. And EVERYTIME I give, I always provoke his blessings to be showered on me.

So, before you start to comment to this (calling me a gullible fool), know that I don't care what they do with the money I dropped in church. That's not my biz. My heart of giving any particular value in any particular currency is what goes to heaven. No pastor told me this, Its a matter of personal conviction.

And all the money sowed goes into the account of the host church in case you don't know. Do you even know what Pastor Mattew does to thousands of widows in Osun state every year. Of course, you are not interested in that, criticism sells faster...

stankezzy: you are a big fat fool.l hope u know he preaches in uk where they verify every thing.if the london police can go as far as tracking all the people said to have been heald in synagogue branch in london and monitoring them for years.the world is a global village,if somebody said it is his trade mark,and people are still coming out ,it shows that what he is saying is truth.because if u scam me or my friend today u may not have the opportunity to do it again.but in this case he have been doing it year after year and people are nt complaining.the advice i have for u is to check well before u make foolish comment.it is also the reason why ibos are mainley christians.,hausas muslims and yoruba half christian nd half muslim.an ibo man will check your religion be it traditional religion ,islam or christianity nd know how what u are worshiping is affecting your life before making decision on the one to join.whether your children are dieying misterously,you so much crave for sex in this world and even planning in advace for sex in(heaven or paradise) whether there are high disease rate associated to the religion,high rate of hand cap,illitrace,killing,and even whether the good health or blessings or riches are true..AFTETR CHECKING ALL THIS THINGS WE CAME TO A CONCLUTION THAT IT IS ONLEY ONE RELIGION THAT MEETS ALL THIS STANDERD.

preciousoz: Stupidity is when you dont have a bicycle and you give your last penny to your pastor to buy a jet.......
Mumu is when you cant pay your childrens school fees and yet have money to contribute to your church to build expensive school which your children will never attend...Ignora­nce is when you believe it when
your pastors tells you not to live worldly life, and yet he enjoys all the best things in the world, the fine houses, cars, jets, babes etc, while you are waiting till you get to heaven to enjoy your own....Idiocy is when you refuse to take your very sick child to the hospital because your pastor said you should not do so, yet that same pastor secretly runs to USA for medical attention any time he has an headache...Kolo­ is when you see a poor beggar on the road and you refuse to give him 50 naira out of the 5000 naira in your pocket because it is your tithe money....You are a zombie when you trek, dance and gallivant for 30 kilometers under the hot sun sweating and smelling like shit during your revival program, while your pastor is inside a full option, factory fitted air-conditioned­ state of the art SUV with his delectable wife slowing driving along the road.
Stop worshiping your pastors!!! They are human being like you, they dont have no power! If they had power they claim they have, Nigeria would not be the way it is.

Brisingr: am still undecided about the recent jet setting life styles of our MOG's they do some good but so do our muslim brothers and i don't know any with a jet setting lifestyle. That been said the story of elijah and the widow that gave up food belonging to her and her child for elijah is a shining example of seed sowing.as she reaped bountifully,one time elijah even resurrected her child.

m.k.o2005:

Na u send this same thing to my bbm ? ANY WAY THAT'S THE CURRENT ONE FLYING ALL OVER TOWN NOW VIA SMS,BBM and others . Una dey try well well ! The devil is happy ! He is busy using his tricks to drag so many to hell !
May God hep us.
God bless us

obo_man: Can I ask you all a simple question?

Why don't you see flamboyant pastors in the west, as you see in Nigeria?


The answer is simple, there are basic amenities in the west, and the system is progressive, unlike Nigeria......


Imagine a country where nothing works, this implies that fake pastors would exploit these opportunities with the promise of escapism.

It pains me that most Nigerians are silly to realise this........


Okay, @ some Nigerians, think of things that have really changed your lives ( The laptop you using, blackberry, electricity, high heels(lol), make ups, anything), and ask yourselves how these things came to be

In your thought, 1 thing is certain, these things were from creative minds, that mostly took place in creative societies....... This implies that if we want these things so much, we just have to be as creative, not get exploited by religious leaders.


I love God, but since creation, he has given man the power to solve his problems via his brains..... Why should you then have to go to a pastor for financial prosperity, when you can lock yourself inside the room, and think about 50 ways of making money?

Imagine a woman that has 100 pairs of good shoes, and looking for capital, in the process goes to a church for financial breakthrough, when 100 pairs of capital keeps staring at her in her room!

Imagine a congregation that would say a mighty amen to divine protection prayer, when their pastors have Army Guards protecting them?

Imagine a congregation that would say a mighty amen to divine health prayer, when their pastors regularly go overseas for check-ups?


Yes, not everybody is gonna be wise, but we do have very stupid people in our society, so stupid they become problem for everyone in that country. Nigeria fits that description.

Nigerians are more passionate about their religious leaders than they are on social amenities, like health, clean water, electricity, etc....

If we reverse these trends, and become passionate on things that really matter, our lives would be more comfortable.


' A pastor wont have to exploit my ageing medical condition in the future, because Nigeria gave my child the best education, and in the process, he discovered a treatment for my condition' , Simple.

dorox: This youtube video of him is similar in formart to the scam you just described. The real action started just after the five minutes mark, before then it was just songs and some meaningless dribble to get the already weak minds of the sheeple properly sedated. I hope it plays on your desktop because my phone could only get the mobile youtube link.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=W8YI44puWK8&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DW8YI44puWK8&gl=GB
This man is a wicked con man, and for someone to watch this video and not come to that realisation means that the person is either too much of a mumu or a fellow wicked person derserving to be conned.

fuke:

Somebody pls help. This video is not playing.

Can we have another link?

stankezzy: you are a big fat fool.l hope u know he preaches in uk where they verify every thing.if the london police can go as far as tracking all the people said to have been heald in synagogue branch in london and monitoring them for years.the world is a global village,if somebody said it is his trade mark,and people are still coming out ,it shows that what he is saying is truth.because if u scam me or my friend today u may not have the opportunity to do it again.

preciousoz:

Bros, am a christian and a Good one at that. We have the Bible in English and I understand very well what's written. Any practice datz not in tandem with the life of Jesus exhibited by any one in his Name will meet condemnation by Me and Sane Christians out there.

Let's stop soiling the Gospel and preach the Good news of Salvation. (Message of the Cross is now silent and these MOGs exploit any piece of Gospel that talks about Money to enrich themselves)

Enuf of this madness as Craze over material things at the expense of our Soul.

floriana: It is not only Ashimolowo. They are all scammers and conmen. One 'daddy GO' once wrote something like that in the daily devotional published and sold by him to his 'worshippers'. The implications of his law of sowing and reaping can be interpreted thus:

1. Sow N1,000 reap N10,000
2. Sow Toyota Camry 2006 reap Camry 2012
3. Sow your entire salary, reap the position of MD in
your workplace
4. Sow your lifesavings, reap central bank of Nigeria
5. Sow 500KVA Mikano generator, reap NEPA
6. Sow private jet, reap jumbo jets + International
airport to serve as plane-park
7. Sow your first son, reap Dangote
8. Sow your wife, reap Dame Patience Jonathan
9 sow your flat backside, reap Beyonce + Kim
Kadarshian backsides
10. Sow an estate, reap, Lagos state.

It annoys me that so many educated, and socially aware but spiritually idiotic men and women who are too lazy to study their bibles keep falling prey to these scammers. And their followers will say 'touch not my anointed + don't judge so that.........

tinnymerit: I dont know how far it is true,i heard he was sent to the UK by foursquare gospel church in Nigeria for a training/development and when he got there he had what he was sent there to do and started his own church without considering the sender.I dont know how far it is true but a friend confirmed it though.

preciousoz:

Bros, am a christian and a Good one at that. We have the Bible in English and I understand very well what's written. Any practice datz not in tandem with the life of Jesus exhibited by any one in his Name will meet condemnation by Me and Sane Christians out there.

Let's stop soiling the Gospel and preach the Good news of Salvation. (Message of the Cross is now silent and these MOGs exploit any piece of Gospel that talks about Money to enrich themselves)

Enuf of this madness as Craze over material things at the expense of our Soul.

m.k.o2005:

The reason i asked if you are a christain is because of the kind of post you put up. The word of God if you go by the letter,it kills ! But the spirit gives life ! Christ never asked us to insult people when we don't agree with them.HE never asked us to call people names when we don't agree with them. HE never asked us to throw stones at people wen we don't agree with them. At a point,christ said we should first remove the PLANK in our eyes before removing the speck(dust)in the eyes of others. HE even said if you know you have not sin,you should be the one to throw the first stone. I'm yet to see a teaching of these men of God that contradicts the word of God ! The giving and receiving,sowing and reaping are all in our holy bibles expecially king james and others alike. For the fact that i want to live on earth and die a pauper and go to heaven does not mean that others must go to heaven my way ! Some others want's to make wealth here on earth,enjoy it here on earth and still leave it here for heaven. Job was the richest in the whole of EAST yet he was a servant of God. Lazarus was a pauper and dogs come every now and then to leak his wounds and yet he made heaven. It depends on how u see it. Money is good but shouldn't be worshipped. If these men worship money,then they have missed it. HOW do i know this ? My bible tells me so. There are churches who's members take alchohol and no one boarders them and some other churches ask their memebers not to take alchohol at all.If they have a good relationship with God,they will both make heaven. One of the reasons the protestants left the Roman catholic church was becos they discovered that they can be married,have children and still be a priest that will hear from God and make heaven at last. But both priests if their relationship with God is good will stil make heaven.
What we should be weary of is wen our pastors no longer teach biblical principles or start to contradict the word of God.Even at that,we are not expected to abuse them but to leave their church and start to pray for them.If we can advise them,let us go to them and do so. Besides,that which we think is right might actually be wrong.
May God help u and help me also.
God bless us

dammytex: hmmmm Na wa oh

Let me start by saying I worship at KICC here at Maryland, Lagos Nigeria which happens to be the Nigerian HQ of KICC under Pastor Femi.

24hr miracle is a trademark message that Pastor Mathew has preached in over 100 churches worldwide. In fact, I don't think he'd stop anytime soon.

Giving is a matter of personal conviction. No matter what you say here, people will NEVER stop giving and pastors will NEVER stop encouraging people to give. THE TRUTH REMAINS THAT THERE IS POWER IN GIVING. Of course its not for everybody to believe. Nobody even sows better than these pastors if you care to believe.

For those of us that worship at KICC, we have sowed different variants of the 24hr seed. Sometimes its N24,000, 24 USD, 24USD. There is another one he encourages us to sow also; its called "blessing of a thousand times more than our fathers". Sometimes we also sowed for God's blessing taking us into another dimension of breakthrough. It's never an issue of do-or-die. Sow if you believe and if you don't, pls stay back.

I purposely wrote this to let you know that some people don't have problem sowing to these prophesies. If you call us fools, we'll tell you God bless you. For someone like me, I always look for an opportunity to sow into a fertile ground because I always reap more than 100% from sources I don't expect.

Just because Chinese Bhudist millionaires were not seed sowers does not mean i will not partake in what works for me. You just called them Bhudists, trust me they all have spiritual back ups that request one thing or the other from them. If only what I have is God and he requests my giving into his house, why will I relent. And EVERYTIME I give, I always provoke his blessings to be showered on me.

So, before you start to comment to this (calling me a gullible fool), know that I don't care what they do with the money I dropped in church. That's not my biz. My heart of giving any particular value in any particular currency is what goes to heaven. No pastor told me this, Its a matter of personal conviction.

And all the money sowed goes into the account of the host church in case you don't know. Do you even know what Pastor Mattew does to thousands of widows in Osun state every year. Of course, you are not interested in that, criticism sells faster...

biolabee: ive used to go to the church when it was in spoonfeeders one eatery in gbabaga .
passed it a few days ago and saw the new structure

the pastor is a young nice guy with focus on youth empowerment (a mini daystar) kinda thing
He is doing a good job


So this may mean the neo-prosperity gospel may be coming there
100 usd is like 16k.. wow
If u guys want to find use for money ..log on to the TehN charity flight

floriana: It is not only Ashimolowo. They are all scammers and conmen. One 'daddy GO' once wrote something like that in the daily devotional published and sold by him to his 'worshippers'. The implications of his law of sowing and reaping can be interpreted thus:

1. Sow N1,000 reap N10,000
2. Sow Toyota Camry 2006 reap Camry 2012
3. Sow your entire salary, reap the position of MD in
your workplace
4. Sow your lifesavings, reap central bank of Nigeria
5. Sow 500KVA Mikano generator, reap NEPA
6. Sow private jet, reap jumbo jets + International
airport to serve as plane-park
7. Sow your first son, reap Dangote
8. Sow your wife, reap Dame Patience Jonathan
9 sow your flat backside, reap Beyonce + Kim
Kadarshian backsides
10. Sow an estate, reap, Lagos state.

It annoys me that so many educated, and socially aware but spiritually idiotic men and women who are too lazy to study their bibles keep falling prey to these scammers. And their followers will say 'touch not my anointed + don't judge so that.........

Kagawa: Indeed I was there, 27th and 28th, and i enjoyed it... ask any one who went.

Pastor Matthew is the leader of KICC but was hosted by HICC (Harvesters International Christian Center)... KNow the difference.
I will call it an empowerment session with Pastor Matthew Ashimolowo.... It was empowering, humorous,exciting, inspirational, POWERFUL....
I got wind of many things; information et al that i know i wouldn't have gotten anywhere. You all missed. Just go to twitter and search #thrive... and read the tweets... enjoy and get inspired.

There is no one, i mean no one who did not wish that the programme continued for a whole week.

I bet the author of this thread and his grapevine forgot to mention the "$1000 for blessings".....
Yeh its not hearsay for i was there. You see the problem we have today is that we are all busy bad mouthing the government, pastors, and other bodies, whereas in our own little compounds, hamlets, corners, under-beds, we are worse off.

You see, the pple who went out to queue for the "money for blessings", the pastor did not put guns to their heads to "ja bundle", they were all adults, "working adults, hustling adults, Men, Women, who believe in giving and receiving....NB: They weren't giving that money to the pastor...naaaaa, they were giving to God, whatever the pastor or the people handling it eventually do with it, am sure is left for God to judge.

So the sooner we stop hypocriting the better...and hey, clap for yourself for posting this threads and getting replys up to 4 pages....it must be A DREAM COME THROUGH.

The grapevine who is your source forgot to mention the positives he/she gained while at the programme but was quick to come and say he was "disgusted",
tell him i said he should search his soul/self before he casts a stone.

P.S I am not a member of HICC, I am a catholic, but i do visit from time to time because they are indeed a lovely family. If i wasnt a catholic i'd be a harvester.. #fact.

I am Kagawa