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Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by jadakiss213(m): 5:39am On Jan 08, 2013
all4naija: I don't get it!
let me explain ds..about 30 percent or more of residents in Niger state actually work and do their businesses in abuja.(due to cost of accomodation in central Abuja)#fact.this probably explains the low poverty rate of NIger state
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by frederal(m): 5:40am On Jan 08, 2013
Huh! It takes ibos to make a state economically vibrant; the lesser they are, d higher d rate of poverty. Suggested by d statistic

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Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by lagcity(m): 5:43am On Jan 08, 2013
babyosisi:

yeah right!
Livestock grin grin grin grin grin
And the same state is considered unhealthy by Nigerian stats?
Abeg

you can make fun of cows as much as you want. THE FACT is that cows are expensive and Sokoto sells millions of them to Nigerians and other West Africans. if u are Igbo, u shld cover ur face in shame becos u no get business mind at all. grin
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by cfours: 5:45am On Jan 08, 2013
babyosisi:

You are making absolutely no sense
Sokoto is supposedly fiscally independent by generating funds internally and these funds are being generated from the same poor citizens that are carrying the first position in the poverty scale
How possible is it to you that the state with the poorest citizens generates revenue only second to the most commercialized state in Nigeria I,e Lagos.

That article goes ones on to say


the hausa people aren't as lazy as we assume heh?
they're contributing to the economy without taking too much. isn't that something to be commended?

see this topic for more discussion on the topic:
https://www.nairaland.com/300410/nigeria-igr-internally-generated-revenue/1
I assume it's mostly from livestock and cement.
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by cfours: 5:50am On Jan 08, 2013
the funniest thing is how ibo states seem to be most dependent on FG.
this is the case where reality doesn't match words.
most of them will be first to create threads upon threads on how they are being "ignored" by the FG. so that is their strategy hehn. they really hide it wellthough. who would have thought.
the yoruba states that are least dependent on FG. hausa states seem to lean toward independence as well.

hahaha irony of all ironies. grin


States with relatively high performing indices included (lagos, sokoto) Ogun, Osun, Oyo, Borno, Ondo, FCTA, Jigawa, Kaduna, Kogi, Anambra, Kwara, Kano, Gombe, Edo, Abia and Rivers which recorded 10 per cent and above in their IGR.

However, states such as Niger, Delta, Imo, Kebbi, Cross River, Zamfara, Enugu, Plateau, Nassarawa, Ebonyi, Bayelsa, Adamawa, Akwa Ibom, Katsina, Benue, Bauchi and Yobe were among those which relied heavily on federally allocated revenue for its fiscal operations in 2008.


now you can tell the consumer states from the productive states.

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Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by dayokanu(m): 5:51am On Jan 08, 2013
Check this stats from the government here. I can help you with some extract

Oyo state Poverty 51.8% Unemployment 8.9%
Osun State Poverty 37.9% Unemployment 3%
Ogun State Poverty 62.3% Unemployment 22.9%
Ondo State Poverty 45.7% Unemployment 12.5%
Ekiti State Poverty 52.4% Unemployment 12.1%
Lagos State Poverty 48.6% Unemployment 8.3%

Anambra State Poverty 56.8% Unemployment 12.1%
Enugu State Poverty 62.5% Unemployment 25.2%
Imo State Poverty 50.5% Unemployment 26.1%
Abia State Poverty 57.4% Unemployment 11.2%
Ebonyi State Poverty 73.6% Unemployment 23.1%

http://www.nigerianstat.gov.ng/information

Osun Oyo and Lagos State have Unemployment under 10 % and Only Ogun State have over 20%. No single SE state has Unemployment under 10% actually 3 of them have over 20%

In terms of Poverty Lagos, Osun and Ondo have Poverty under 50% , While No single SE state have Poverty under 50% Ebonyi has almost 3/4 of the people living in abject poverty

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Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by Nobody: 5:54am On Jan 08, 2013
c.fours:


the hausa people aren't as lazy as we assume heh?
they're contributing to the economy without taking too much. isn't that something to be commended?

see this topic for more discussion on the topic:
https://www.nairaland.com/300410/nigeria-igr-internally-generated-revenue/1
I assume it's mostly from livestock and cement.

Who talked about laziness?
The figures here are not adding up mehn!

http://economicconfidential.net/new/financial/facts-a-figures/932-federation-account-how-they-share-n727bn-in-february-2012-

The link above shows you how much Sokoto collects from the quarterly Almajiri trips to Abuja,certainly no where near the least
In the same vein they are generating the most money internally only second to Lagos state from their nama grin grin according to another story
Yet it is the poorest state in Nigeria
How is that possible?

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Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by logica(m): 5:55am On Jan 08, 2013
c.fours:
the funniest thing is how ibo states seem to be most dependent on FG.
this is the case where reality doesn't match words.
most of them will be first to create threads upon threads on how they are being "ignored" by the FG. so that is their strategy hehn. they really hide it wellthough. who would have thought.
the yoruba states that are least dependent on FG. hausa states seem to lean toward independence as well.
Oh, maybe that's why they keep hoping to have an Igbo President. Hopefully he will bring the Magic Wand that will turn all Igbos into millionaires.
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by Nobody: 5:58am On Jan 08, 2013
c.fours:
the funniest thing is how ibo states seem to be most dependent on FG.
this is the case where reality doesn't match words.
most of them will be first to create threads upon threads on how they are being "ignored" by the FG. so that is their strategy hehn. they really hide it wellthough. who would have thought.
the yoruba states that are least dependent on FG. hausa states seem to lean toward independence as well.

hahaha irony of all ironies. grin


States with relatively high performing indices included (lagos, sokoto) Ogun, Osun, Oyo, Borno, Ondo, FCTA, Jigawa, Kaduna, Kogi, Anambra, Kwara, Kano, Gombe, Edo, Abia and Rivers which recorded 10 per cent and above in their IGR.

However, states such as Niger, Delta, Imo, Kebbi, Cross River, Zamfara, Enugu, Plateau, Nassarawa, Ebonyi, Bayelsa, Adamawa, Akwa Ibom, Katsina, Benue, Bauchi and Yobe were among those which relied heavily on federally allocated revenue for its fiscal operations in 2008.


^ this explains the "Enugu" thread. Now we know where all the money for roads and malls and whatnot is coming from. All from the hard work of the poor Sokoto cattle herders grin

You have absolutely no clue
If Igbos depended on the govt,they would be eating grass
The Igbo man works for every dime he gets
Most schools and hospitals in Igoland are built by communities in case you don't know
Which other area did individuals contribute to build an airport?
Only in Igboland
You are talking f a people that started life in 1970 with 20 pounds
You have no idea what you are talking about

Now read this
Same Nigerian stats o



By VINCENT UJUMADU

[size=18pt]AWKA— THE minister of National Planning and Vice Chairman of the National Planning Commission, Dr. Shamsudeen Usman, yesterday said in Awka that Anambra was one of the few states in the country with the lowest level of unemployment. He attributed the situation to the entrepreneurial capability of the people of the state.[/size]

Speaking during the flag –off of the Gross Domestic Product, GDP, computation in Nigeria, for the South East geo-political zone, the minister said with about 10% unemployment rate, Anambra was one of the least among the 36 states in the country.

According to him, “the reason is not far–fetched because the people of the state are very resourceful, adding that rather than continue to seek employment, they are mainly employers of labour”.

The three major cities in the state which are Onitsha, Awka and Nnewi have great potentials for economic transformation of the country. While Onitsha is well known for commerce, Awka and Nnewi are famous for black smiting and industrial development respectively.”

The minister described Anambra State Integrated Development Strategy, ANIDS, policy as similar to the federal government’s Transformation Agenda and explained that he would study the operation of ANIDS because it had helped to fast track the development of the state.

He said: “We don’t have objective statistics in this country because we don’t have objective data for measuring economic activities. What often happens is that a governor with goodwill in the media usually gets favourable assessment as a great performer, which is wrong. It is not clear how the media arrive at such assessment since there can only be an accurate statistics if there is available accurate data.”

The Minister explained that the choice of Awka for the flag off of the GDP computation project for the South East was in recognition of the leadership qualities of Governor Peter Obi who he noted had demonstrated commitment to sound economic management, accountability and transparency.
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by logica(m): 5:59am On Jan 08, 2013
dayokanu:
In terms of Poverty Lagos, Osun and Ondo have Poverty under 50%
But dude, those poverty rates across board tell an alarming story (which of course we are aware of as a result of anecdotal evidence such as high crime rates and poor people we see around, beggars etc). The US or Europe would've collapsed with an average poverty rate of 30%. I bet ya.
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by SwitnessA(m): 5:59am On Jan 08, 2013
Wat happens to states like, kogi, benue, enugu...e.t.c
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by cfours: 5:59am On Jan 08, 2013
babyosisi:

You have absolutely no clue
If Igos depended on the govt,they would be eating grass
The Igbo man works for every dime he gets
Most schools in Igoland are built by communities in case you don't know

Now read this
Same Nigerian stats o


i was only kidding o.
of course the igbos are the "hardest working and richest tribe" in nigeria. not to mention, most neglected by FG tongue
these lying statisticians can carry their data and go hug transformer jare
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by logica(m): 6:05am On Jan 08, 2013
Switness .A.:
Wat happens to states like, kogi, benue, enugu...e.t.c
They didn't make the cut of states; they've been relegated to satellite states. tongue
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by Nobody: 6:10am On Jan 08, 2013
Same Naija stats.pick your choose


From the poverty guru himself


[size=18pt]National Coordinator of National Poverty Eradication Programme (NAPEP), Dr. Magnus Kpakol, has rated Anambra state high as the state with the lowest poverty rate among all the states in the country.
Kpakol, who said this in an exclusive interview with Daily Champion in Abuja, noted that the level of private enterprise in Anambra put the state on the top echelon of the ladder of efforts by states to eradicate poverty.[/size]
He said though Bayelsa state is thought to have the lowest poverty rate in the country, statistics have shown that Anambra is actually topping the ladder.
�Statistically, we rank Bayelsa state as having the lowest poverty rate in the country. But in its purest sense, Anambra state has the lowest poverty rate in the country and that is because of the level of private enterprise and commitment to private enterprise there,� he said.
On the need for private enterprise to lead the battle to eradicate poverty in the country, Kpakol said the only way poverty can be eradicated in any society is for greater private sector activity that would create more jobs and allow government the freedom to concentrate on infrastructure development.
He said the private sector holds the key to poverty eradication in the country adding that excessive dependence of government will not help the poverty situation.
He said: �We have to understand that the key to fighting poverty in the country is private enterprise. We must promote private enterprise in the country. I think that the government in Nigeria has been too involved in everything. It is too heavy. That should not be.
�Private enterprise is the key to fighting poverty long term. There has been too much centralization. Excessive centralization and excessive government involvement crowd out ingenuity and private enterprise.
�We need to continue to make it possible for people to be engaged in private enterprise. That�s the way to fight poverty. If we do that, we will be able to create jobs and free government to provide infrastructure like roads, electricity and becomes more like a referee. That is basically what government should involve in while private enterprise propels the engine for economic growth and redemption,� he said.
Kpakol, who would want more wealthy Nigerians to get involved in the effort to alleviate poverty by creating job opportunities, however frowned at a situation where government is made to fund the purchase of tricycles (Keke) as a poverty alleviation measure.
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by logica(m): 6:15am On Jan 08, 2013
babyosisi: Same Naija stats.pick your choose


From the poverty guru himself
Where are the stats? What was the sample size? I just see a jumble of words. Not a single figure.
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by dayokanu(m): 6:18am On Jan 08, 2013
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by cfours: 6:20am On Jan 08, 2013
logica: Where are the stats? What was the sample size? I just see a jumble of words. Not a single figure.

hahah statistics without numbers.
babyosisi is really trying. let's give her credit.
grin
I also love how the article has neither author nor date.
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by Ahmedie25(m): 6:27am On Jan 08, 2013
Those that are saying,Niger state has the highest povety rate in 2012,are fools & illiterates,even last year ,Niger state has the lowest poverty rate
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by Nobody: 6:28am On Jan 08, 2013
Another one O
No be me write am abeg


Anambra poverty laughable and preposterous:

The very notion of Anambra being associated with poverty is both preposterous and laughable. [size=18pt]Dr Magnus Kpakol, the erstwhile DG of the National Poverty Eradication Programme (NAPEP) cleared the air on the former ranking of Bayelsa State as the least poor of the 36 states by the NBS which, in its usual lazy manner, relied mainly on the amount the state gets from the federation account relative to its meagre population. Kpakol declared that Anambra had the highest quota of private entrepreneurs in the country and is actually the state with the most affluential citizens per capita in the whole country.[/size]

Majority of the Igbo-dominated markets around the country and the West African sub-region have businessmen of Anambra and northern Imo state origins calling the shots
cool cool. Each time Nigeria changes currency the largest volume of currency notes is harvested from the South West (especially Lagos where Igbo and Anambra dominate the markets) and the South East (especially the Onitsha/Nnewi/Aba axes). [size=18pt]Apart from Lagos, Anambra state has the highest number of bank branches in the federation, and they are not there for Father Christmas purposes[/size].

So, what was el Rufai's motive for painting Anambra in the borrowed robes of poverty? There are those who feel that he saw the NBS figures and decided it offered the opportunity to "retaliate" on former Central Bank Governor, Prof. Chukwuma Soludo's assertion that poverty is "a northern phenomenon", as justified not just by the NBS's figures alone. He probably used Anambra to "fight back" but unfortunately for him, he failed to make his point stick, as his conclusions flew in the face of real life evidence.

Some even say el Rufai decided to call Anambra dirty names because his party, the CPC, failed woefully not just in Anambra State but also the entire South East, South-South, North Central and most parts of the upper north.

Poverty is everywhere in Nigeria, Anambra and the South East inclusive. But for el Rufai to go on a binge about poverty in Anambra State when his own part of the country is the dirt poorest amounts to pointing to a speck in someone's eye while ignoring the log of wood in his. The altruism of motive was not convincing. And for me, the charge of "misplaced priorities" fell flat.

But as purely an academic exercise, el Rufai must have found his own effort most mentally engaging.

there you go
The NBS ranking is rubbish
Kpakol is not an Igbo man BTW


http://allafrica.com/stories/201206180515.html?page=3

We no dey go Lagos and Abuja or stay in Onitsha and Nnewi and Aba to count bridge and number of hummers passing by
Kawo kwudi mana grin grin
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by cfours: 6:32am On Jan 08, 2013
babyosisi: Another one O
No be me write am abeg

I don't think anybody is reading your post anymore. all you are doing is spamming the thread.
the lat three sentences of the opinion article you just posted caught my eyes and had me laughing though. did you make a mistake with the quote button? grin
or na you write am?
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by Nobody: 6:34am On Jan 08, 2013
Now that all the various statistics have poured in grin grin grin
Choose the one that suits you grin grin
No way Niger state is the least poorest grin grin grin
Impossicant! grin
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by logica(m): 6:35am On Jan 08, 2013
So, what was el Rufai's motive for painting Anambra in the borrowed robes of poverty? There are those who feel that he saw the NBS figures and decided it offered the opportunity to "retaliate" on former Central Bank Governor, Prof. Chukwuma Soludo's assertion that poverty is "a northern phenomenon", as justified not just by the NBS's figures alone. He probably used Anambra to "fight back" but unfortunately for him, he failed to make his point stick, as his conclusions flew in the face of real life evidence.

Some even say el Rufai decided to call Anambra dirty names because his party, the CPC, failed woefully not just in Anambra State but also the entire South East, South-South, North Central and most parts of the upper north.

Poverty is everywhere in Nigeria, Anambra and the South East inclusive. But for el Rufai to go on a binge about poverty in Anambra State when his own part of the country is the dirt poorest amounts to pointing to a speck in someone's eye while ignoring the log of wood in his. The altruism of motive was not convincing. And for me, the charge of "misplaced priorities" fell flat.
That's all I could pick from the article: it was nothing but an attack or refutation of el Rufai's claim. No single stat was provided; just a long ramble against el Rufai. Is this all you have?
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by cfours: 6:36am On Jan 08, 2013
babyosisi: Now that all the various statistics have poured in
Choose the one that suits you
No way Niger state is the least poorest
Impossicant!

did you see the "OPINION" written in bold across the top of your so called "statistics" article?
http://allafrica.com/stories/201206180515.html?page=3

grin grin grin
you should be quoting the facts and statistics. not the opinion articles, dear wink
and why did you leave out the article author's name and date of publication.

By Ochereome Nnanna, 18 June 2012
OPINION
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by Nobody: 6:37am On Jan 08, 2013
logica:
That's all I could pick from the article: it was nothing but an attack or refutation of el Rufai's claim. No single stat was provided; just a long ramble against el Rufai. Is this all you have?

It was being refuted by a man who should know
Dr Magnus Kpakol, the erstwhile DG of the National Poverty Eradication Programme (NAPEP)
Not an Igbo man in case you think he is
Who is better placed to speak on poverty in nigeria than he?
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by CohenJane: 6:40am On Jan 08, 2013
rodeo0070:
According to the records, unemployment was least in Osun followed by Kwara and Lagos.
SOURCE: www.punchng.com/news/sokoto-katsina-top-list-of-poor-states/

what do you expect ... you can never be unemployed in lagos if you are innovative ... checking people's weight and bp at #50 per person is enough for your daily meal
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by cfours: 6:41am On Jan 08, 2013
babyosisi:

It was being refuted by a man who should know
Dr Magnus Kpakol, the erstwhile DG of the National Poverty Eradication Programme (NAPEP)
Not an Igbo man in case you think he is
Who is better placed to speak on poverty in nigeria than he?

bring out his statistics not his opinions.
who cares if he is igbo or not. he's from port harcourt. but why should that have any bearing?
the guy has been discredited by several sources for being a corrupt swindler. He is eradicating poverty of his own pocket.
I wonder how much bribe he collected from anambra.
http://www.nigeriannewsservice.com/nns-news-archive/headlines/magnus-kpakol-and-the-keke-napep-scam
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/02/reps-threaten-to-order-arrest-of-kpakol-over-n20bn-napep-fund/
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by CohenJane: 6:44am On Jan 08, 2013
FreeGlobe: LWKM......... THE STATISTICIAN GENERAL YEMI KALE!!!!!!!!


WHEN WILL THESE FOLKS STOP TAKING THE WHOLE COUNTRY FOR A RIDE, THINKING WE BELIEVE THEIR BULLSHYTE STATS. THIS DOES NOT REPRESENT WHAT IS ON GROUND! THIS WHOLE STUFF IS BULLSHYTE AND BOTH POLITICALLY AND ETHNICALLY MOTIVATED. NO WONDER I RUSHED TO CHECK THE PERSON IN CHARGE WHEN THE WHOLE LIST STARTED GETTING FUNNY AND WAS NOT DISAPPOINTED.

THRASH STATS.

So, in your mind of minds, this is what you could come up with? Because the DG is yoruba (or from a particular tribe) makes the presentation a useless one?

We are actaully sitting on a time bomb, I swell. with people like you, boko haram is a child's play.
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by Nobody: 6:50am On Jan 08, 2013
c.fours:


did you see the "OPINION" written in bold across the top of your so called "statistics" article?
http://allafrica.com/stories/201206180515.html?page=3

grin grin grin
you should be quoting the facts and statistics. not the opinion articles, dear wink
and why did you leave out the article author's name and date of publication.

By Ochereome Nnanna, 18 June 2012
OPINION

When the figures make no sense?
The same el rufai says Anambra folks own 75% of property in Abuja
The same Anambra people that control most commerce in all major cities in Nigeria
How many anambrarians collect salary from government?
The same Anambra that is top 3 in education and literacy statistics in Nigeria is poorer than a state full of almajiris? shocked shocked shocked
The state that has all the major drug manufacturers,orange drugs etc ,major transporters,control the electronics market including the majorphone and computer dealers Zinox and co,spare parts.
Well electronics is mainly Enugu state sha
And textile is Abia

The only state with an indeginous car manufacturing plant in the nation and now an oil state grin

The state that has a university with the second largest applicants of all unis in Nigeria only second to UNILAG by a small margin
Poverty guru in Naija says has the largest numbers of self made millionaires

Heck I am not from anambra but give it to them mehn!
That statistician in the original post is cooking up figures
No way Niger state has lower poverty rate than Lagos what more Anambra
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by jadakiss213(m): 6:58am On Jan 08, 2013
babyosisi: Now that all the various statistics have poured in grin grin grin
Choose the one that suits you grin grin
No way Niger state is the least poorest grin grin grin
Impossicant! grin
NIger state is..what u gon do?ODE.. i thot i explained ds earlier.uve now become a nuisance on ds thread please get some sleep biko.
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by Jaideyone(m): 7:01am On Jan 08, 2013
babyosisi:


Three of the many states with streets kids roaming around , ear marked to have Almajiri schools built by GEJ also happen to be the least poor states
Make I go laff grin grin grin grin grin
Fuzzy math
u must be a fo*ol to say there are almajiris in osun and ondo.
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by ehispapa(m): 7:02am On Jan 08, 2013
logica: I actually laughed when I read this rambling with the "cool" emoticon at the end. It's like a mad-man wearing sunshades.
FreeGlobe i think Logical is using some economics sense here which you do not understand. logical is so right in his analysis of per capital income which is the correct basis for determining poverty rate. do you know that Nigeria earn more than Ghana, but Nigerians are Poorer than Ghanaians. Definately you guys belong to different school of thought
Re: Sokoto, Katsina Top List Of Poor States... by Clemzy16(m): 7:02am On Jan 08, 2013
It's funny how almost all the norther states are poor, while lagos which people claim to be the centre of economic activities in the country is not the richest state in Nigeria.

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