thehomer:

I think far more Christians here don't have a clue about how science works.

wiegraf:



Could it be you're on ooman's level of comprehensive abilities? Do you need crayons as well? Let me fill in the fairly blatant blanks



This, mind you, in response to his assertion that entropy does not increase in a closed system....
He mistakens gaining one sort of order to mean overall order does not decrease

Now please, mastah scientist, explain ooman's glorious point....

ooman:

Could it be that davidylan too is wrong. Dumb eediot, go back to school. How can a closed system 'gain' or lose anything? Does that make sense to you? The fact that you even used order to qualify entropy is enough reason to know you are a junk. These are the 'wise' NL atheists. Its a shame.

wiegraf:

He believes yah'weh exists. Considering how judeoxtian myths, ethos, etc, permeate everything they do, that would make him wrong about a lot of stuff by default.

I never claim to be wise

He was clearly wrong with his interpretation of my statement, just as you (blatantly) were. Notice how he ran away? Anyone with a working brain can spot that hence I never bothered to correct you. By leaving it that way, you advertise your foo.lishness to anybody with the ability to think without my having to do anything. I'm not sure if I should be disappointed with david or not...

And claiming entropy does not increase in a closed system is one of the stoopidest things a pseudo-scientist could say. One way or the other something MUST pay the price. You have absolutely no grasp of what the concept means, probably even if you take the strictly scientific interpretation which you've deluded yourself into thinking you understand. Also, what is this about entropy having nothing to do with 'order'?

Che! Are you sure you were not indoctrinated into atheism? Maybe you grew up in china?

ooman:

Or perhaps, your own stupi.dity made you an atheist.

Could two different people misconstrue you exactly? I think its time you take a break, perhaps seek forgiveness in a church. That people are Theists in no way suggest they are not wise and that in no way makes you wiser. You must be an eediot for saying believing in God makes people wrong by default. Do you know that the foundation of scientific laws were laid by Theists? Fool! Do some reading.

Finally, only eediots will use the terms "gain" "lose" to qualify a closed system. Equilibrium is the term used, junk.

davidylan:

the truth is both of you are equally clueless at this point. His claim that entropy does not increase in a closed system... is not true... infact just by looking at statistical probabilities, the likelihood that entropy will increase in a closed system is by far higher. Cases where entropy decreases in a closed system is very low (one of the situations where this might be true is in situations where there is significant gravitational force).

With regard to your response to him, frankly it was incomprehensible gibberish.

davidylan:

oh dear... the self conceit of the atheist. I suppose i should quit my job to sit around responding to wiegraf's every post.

hmmm i notice you did not address ooman's point... how do you lose energy in a CLOSED system?

wiegraf:

And here, my rabid chihuahua, please show where I state that you lose energy in a closed system. I'll be here all day (actually I have $hit to do, but you get the point). You don't understand the post, why comment on it? You sound as foolish as the great ooman himself.

davidylan:

WHAT? An atheist actually makes the point we've been saying for so so long? Hallelujah!

wiegraf:

He's a nontheist abegi

He's single handedly reducing our collective IQ to muslim levels. Now, ansah my questions...

davidylan:

apparently you lack the capacity to rationally present a point. Trading physics principles is wasted on those who merely raise their voice to avoid the indignity of acknowledging they actually have no idea what they talk about.

Like ooman rightly pointed out... adhominems are the last refuge of the weak and ignorant. Good day.

Alfamann: I think there is a competition between davidylan and ooman to see who makes least sense.

davidylan:

Again another who simply comes with bluster and no point. Where have i made no sense? Can you exactly show me why and how it is wrong?

wiegraf:

Just above, you claimed I said energy increases in a closed system, along some other nonsense about order being entropy. That makes no sense. Where? I dey wait ohhh...

Seriously, in your blind rage you're quoting.....ooman

Ooman that copy/pastes from urban dictionary... And even those copypastas he does not understand.

David...

davidylan:

Rage ke? Bro rage is a complete waste of time... i've never met you so why should i be enraged at you?
Perhaps you're projecting your problem to me. pele o.

davidylan:

the truth is both of you are equally clueless at this point. His claim that entropy does not increase in a closed system... is not true... infact just by looking at statistical probabilities, the likelihood that entropy will increase in a closed system is by far higher. Cases where entropy decreases in a closed system is very low (one of the situations where this might be true is in situations where there is significant gravitational force).

With regard to your response to him, frankly it was incomprehensible gibberish.

As far as muskeeto is concerned... it appears discussions that have more to do with science are so far above his pay grade that he is simply left with adhominems. I doubt he could define entropy if he didnt have the internet. But of course i leave you all to your fruitless shenanigans.

chukkynwob:
Actually a hypothesis is an educated postulation from past experiences and observations,a guess is based on nothing.

Albeit hypothesis are still guesses though

davidylan:

Again another who simply comes with bluster and no point. Where have i made no sense? Can you exactly show me why and how it is wrong?

Wonder why alfamann is finding it so difficult to show us where we have not made sense... perhaps he himself understands nothing of what is discussed here. As usual he just wants to abuse anyone who is not an atheist.

davidylan:

i would rather watch paint dry.

davidylan: Man... ooman sure cleaned the clocks of many here!

Imagine someone talking about zero in a closed system... oh dear!

davidylan:

lol good point.

chukkynwob: Dear Ooman,
I've been a way for awhile I was surprised to see this thread but without further ado let me get straight to my point,

Personally,I have always advocated meaningful conversations where we can agree to disagree like civilised people(that we are),therefore I feel it is inappropriate to insult Logicboy( he can be annoying) or anyother poster because in the end insulting people will not make them to suddenly accept your position in an argument.

My only word for you my dear NL pal is to AGREE TO DISAGREE; even if your opponent in the argument is adamant to reason and logic, a 3rd party reading your comments might make sense of the viewpoint.

Just kiss and makeup with Logicboy and other wonderful atheists on this board.
Cheers

ooman:


Hi, for the bold. Notice the only thing I contended is Gain and Loss in a closed system-which you confirm to be a good point. Where did the bold come from then?

ooman:

Do you know that the entropy of a closed system cannot also increase.

thehomer:

I think far more Christians here don't have a clue about how science works.

wiegraf:

https://www.nairaland.com/1230274/striktlymi-davidylan-right-wrong#14828126

MacDaddy01:

]"Evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics."

This shows more a misconception about thermodynamics than about evolution. The second law of thermodynamics says, "No process is possible in which the sole result is the transfer of energy from a cooler to a hotter body." [Atkins, 1984, The Second Law, pg. 25:
Now you may be scratching your head wondering what this has to do with evolution. The confusion arises when the 2nd law is phrased in another equivalent way, "The entropy of a closed system cannot decrease." Entropy is an indication of unusable energy and often (but not always!) corresponds to intuitive notions of disorder or randomness. Creationists thus misinterpret the 2nd law to say that things invariably progress from order to disorder.

wiegraf:

https://www.nairaland.com/1230274/striktlymi-davidylan-right-wrong#14828126

musKeeto:
Lol, u still dey here? I find it hard to believe that all this began from a thread on suicide..

davidylan:

By the way... try and address ooman's point of how you achieve zero in a closed system.

ooman:

are you regretting?

davidylan:

By the way... try and address ooman's point of how you achieve zero in a closed system.

wiegraf:
Entropy has no effect in a closed system? Do you even know what the 3rd law is??

ooman:
Silly fool! How does the 3rd law apply to a closed system? Quote the 3rd law first, then tell me how your dumb, mutated dorky brain think it applies to a closed system.

Unthinking eediot - another blind atheist.

wiegraf:

Can absolute zero be reached?

ooman:

[size=15]"REACHING"[/size] absolute ZERO when talking about A CLOSED SYSTEM.? ? ?? ? ?? ?

I 'd rather start playing game than reply your next comment!

You sir, are a real dunce.

davidylan:

By the way... try and address ooman's point of how you achieve zero in a closed system.