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Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by pleep(m): 7:51am On Mar 27, 2013
topmostg: you might be right you know.....

Lets say for instance n.k launched 100 nuclear warheads at a go, will that thing be able to stop every missile?

I doubt that.....

More grease to n.k and iran's elbow for not bowing to the bully americans


the americans might have allies around the world but that might change when shiiit hits the fan.....

North korea doesnt have any missle that can travel to china let alone the united states..
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by Nobody: 7:55am On Mar 27, 2013
pleep: North korea doesnt have any missle that can travel to china let alone the united states..
my nigga I'm waiting where you know..come explain something
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by bashydemy(m): 8:32am On Mar 27, 2013
like the US doesnt have allies abi? all the western states, about 30 are all US allies. i no pity you at all.
~Bluetooth:


Lmao. . .I still want to know why you guys keep repeating this line.

First,Israel cannot declare an all out war on Iran,it can only hide under self-defense to attack recognised nuclear sites and arms depots in Iran provided it is convinced that the arms will end up in the hands of hizbollah militants.

The US has been silent even when Israel has flaunt UN protocols as seen in the flotillagate saga where turkish nationals were killed. . . .just a few days ago during Obama's visit,the israel government finally apologised to the turkish government.


The point is there are procedures for declaring a total and the Israelis can't do that except through the UN.the US on the other hand can't afford another war ie if china and Russia do not veto any such push.

Some of these tyrant nations have signed military treaties with China and Russia for support in case of a total war.if this goes to happen and Israel attacks Iran,the 3rd world war may be in the offing.

Putin and Xi are both nationalistic and anti-west,its going to be bloody I tell you.There is also a reason why North korea is threatening war and South korea has not attacked them.


Resuscitation of the Communism and Capitalism rivalry !
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by playahP(m): 8:43am On Mar 27, 2013
~Bluetooth:



The rest of the world including African needs tyrant regimes like North korea,Zimbabwe,Venezuela and Iran to balance the power of Strong nations who are only interested in forcing their hegemony on the poor nations of the world.

"War is the continuation of politics by other means". . . .I hope the North gets what they want in the end through war since bluffing and bargaining are not working.

You quite silly for saying this.
Have you been to north korea before? Have you even seen pictures or videos of north-korea?

The so called "supreme leader" is developing nuclear bombs and shit while the citizens are starving!

In north korea, there is no health care, food is rationed by the mayor of each community and if a citizen of north korea escapes from the country, his whole family would be put in the concentration camp where they slave the rest of their lives out.

This is real talk bro and no fiction... North-korea is a sick country!!

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Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by imeller: 8:50am On Mar 27, 2013
North Korea's war plan goes beyond repulsing US attackers and calls for destruction of the United States. read more here: http://rense.com/general37/nkorr.htm
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by Nobody: 9:07am On Mar 27, 2013
kodewrita: Just a gift to you guys from a website called Quora.

Category: Military History and Wars.

Question: How much stronger is the United States military compared with the next strongest power?

Responder: Daniel Kearns (former paratrooper with the 82nd 82nd Airborne Division.)

Answer:

No other military or combination of militaries could even begin to inflict the slightest numbers of casualties on the United States Military in a conventional war.

Consider:

The US spends close to what the entire rest of the world spends in defense. 711 Billion. Per year. The next closest is China at 143 Billion.

Obviously, the guy who answered the question is an ex US marine, what do you expect him to say Military isn't about spending power - it's about how effective you're and the loyalty/discipline of your combatants.... Most of US military spending is on foreign bases they don't really need and bogus things... The US just grounded F-35s - do you how much it wasted on the project alone The F-22s are still there with oxygen problems...

For every $1million the US spends on a fighter jet - the Chinese spends probably a tenth of that on the same project, and the way the strategise is more effective than the US or A... Like they say: "defense is the best form of attack"... and China military defense strategy is arguably the best in the world... Don't even get me started with the Russians and what Messr Putin has started for the modernisation of the Russian military - everyone needs to be scared, trust me.... For all of the yanks wasteful military spending - the Russians still have the best ICBM technology in the world... and also the most effective missile defense technology... Perhaps, you were asleep when the Russians tested a new ICBM last year.... heck, the Israelis thought the ICBM was a UFO...

Even the hyped drones are becoming obsolete after the Iranians stay capturing them, and getting the technology for free... The yanks now escort all their drones in the gulf with fighter jets.... So, what's the point of having drones when you still have to get a couple of fighter jets to follow it everywhere?? Another wasteful military adventurism...

Don't believe the hype - all the superpowers(USA, China and RUssia - UK and FRance are irrelevant) have big guns and they can all inflict collateral damage on one another...

We all need to pray against war because when shiit hits the fan - it'll be maximum destruction for everyone involved...
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by pleep(m): 9:16am On Mar 27, 2013
The f-35's havn't been grounded, that project is still in development... Its the f-22 that they cut the production lines for, and even though we have like 8 of them it was a collosal waste of money.

You r right about U.S military spending being generally waste, but you cant deny the power America has. Those f-22 that cost 200 million each, can destroy f-15s in fights of up to 2 to 16.
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by pleep(m): 9:18am On Mar 27, 2013
And also remember that the U.S controls all the military sitelites that are used for the GPS guided missles etc.
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by gahyip(m): 9:23am On Mar 27, 2013
firstolalekan: [size=16pt]LETS GO DIER[/size]. grin grin
[size=18pt]THIS IS WHAT HAV BEEN WAITING FOR[/size]. grin grin
LET THEM ENGAGE THE U.S SO THAT IRAN CAN DEAL WITH DAT TINY ISRAEL. grin grin
[size=20pt]ISRAEL HAS BEEN HIDING UNDER U.S SKIRT TO MAKE MOUTH[/size].

LET ME TELL YOU AND ALL WHO CARE TO KNOW THAT ISREAL IS THE BRAIN BEHIND AND THE STRENGTH OF AMERICA TODAY AND OBAMA IS MAKING BIG MISTAKE AS HE IS TRING TO CHANGE THAT POLICY AND SEE THE THREAT TODAY FROM IRAN AND COMMON N KOREAN
IS GROWING DAILY ISREAL ALONE CAN DEAL WITH IRAN BUT OBAMA IS HOLDING THEM
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by Nobody: 9:25am On Mar 27, 2013
Pentagon Orders F-35 Jets Grounded

The Pentagon said on Friday that it had grounded all of its stealthy new F-35 fighter jets after an inspection found a crack in a turbine blade in the engine of one of the planes.

The suspension of flights comes at an awkward time for the military, which is facing automatic budget cuts that could slow its purchases of the planes. The Pentagon grounded all three versions of the jets — for the Air Force, the Navy and the Marines — on Thursday while it investigated the problem.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/23/business/new-troubles-for-pentagons-f-35-fighter.html?_r=0
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by Nobody: 9:28am On Mar 27, 2013
F-15s are obsolete and any new generation fighter jet would destroy the F-15s with ease... They don't even stand a chance against the not-so-impressive UK Tornado fighter jets...

F-22 is a fifth generation fighter jet..
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by Nobody: 9:31am On Mar 27, 2013
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Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by pleep(m): 9:33am On Mar 27, 2013
Ok.. but i promise you the f-35 is not in active use the U.S miltary. Those are test flights. Even look at their wiki-pedia article it will say "in development" in the first sentance

I will admit that you never said other wise but your post was misleading. The f-15 is still the official fighter jet the U.S uses with a few f-22 for show

The F-35 is not supposed to see service for a few more years, so the problems are expecatable.
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by Ubenedictus(m): 9:33am On Mar 27, 2013
~Bluetooth:


Can Israel declare a total war on Iran ?
heheh, total war will be a blood bath for both countries. Isreal no go try e self anytime soon.
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by Nobody: 9:34am On Mar 27, 2013
I also doubt the US controls all military satellites... The Russians are arguably still ahead of the yanks when it comes to space technology and the Chinese are catching up as well...

The world is getting bi-polar by day and I don't think no one country has bragging rights over the rest like it used to be... Don't believe the hype...

You need to check out what the Russians are building - you'd be scared for the future of humanity...
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by pleep(m): 9:35am On Mar 27, 2013
shy-mmex:
F-15s are obsolete and any new generation fighter jet would destroy the F-15s with ease... They don't even stand a chance against the not-so-impressive UK Tornado fighter jets...

F-22 is a fifth generation fighter jet..
Yea but there is no 5th generation jet but the f-22, and the U.S never exported any. The Chinese barely managed to clone an f-15 how will they compete with the f-35 when that is ready for active service?
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by Nobody: 9:40am On Mar 27, 2013
Did you actually read the link that I posted?? Wikipedia isn't a good source... Another excerpt from the NY Times article:


The Pentagon grounded all three versions of the jets — for the Air Force, the Navy and the Marines — on Thursday while it investigated the problem.

Lockheed Martin, which makes the high-tech plane, said 64 of the jets would be affected. The Pentagon estimates that it could spend as much as $396 billion to buy 2,456 of the jets by the late 2030s. But the program, the most expensive in military history, has been plagued by cost overruns and delays, and it could easily become a target for budget cutters.

The Marines also had to suspend operation of their version from Jan. 18 through Feb. 13 because of a problem with a crimped hose in the fuel system.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/23/business/new-troubles-for-pentagons-f-35-fighter.html?_r=0

^^^^^From the bolded, you can see that 64 F-35s have already been deployed to the airforce, navy, and marines... Heck, the US Army ordered another 30 last year, but the order has now been cancelled...
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by pleep(m): 9:42am On Mar 27, 2013
You are right. I was using outdated info wink
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by Nobody: 9:45am On Mar 27, 2013
pleep: Yea but there is no 5th generation jet but the f-22, and the U.S never exported any. The Chinese barely managed to clone an f-15 how will they compete with the f-35 when that is ready for active service?

F-15s are obsolete - perhaps you're talking about F-16s - two different fighter jets...

Agreed, only the US has combat ready 5th generation fighter jets... However, the Russians and Chinese have done test flights for Sukhoi PAK FA and Chengdu J-20 respectively - and they should be deployed in the new few years...
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by pleep(m): 9:46am On Mar 27, 2013
With all the delays — full production is not expected until 2019 — the military has spent billions to extend the lives of older fighters and buy more of them to fill the gap. At the same time, the cost to build each F-35 has risen to an average of $137 million from $69 million in 2001.

Winslow T. Wheeler, a former Senate staff member who is one of the plane’s biggest critics, said Friday that the program was still only about 30 percent through its testing. While the crack in the turbine blade may just be a minor flaw, he said, it is unlikely to pose a significant problem to continuing the program. “The Pentagon’s current management is hooked on the airplane and refuses to admit it is a failure,” he said.
These problems are still to be expected on a program this new though.

Now @ the price hike that is just sad, that is only a little bit less than the f-22 cost.
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by Ubenedictus(m): 9:47am On Mar 27, 2013
shy-mmex:


Obviously, the guy who answered the question is an ex US marine, what do you expect him to say Military isn't about spending power - it's about how effective you're and the loyalty/discipline of your combatants.... Most of US military spending is on foreign bases they don't really need and bogus things... The US just grounded F-35s - do you how much it wasted on the project alone The F-22s are still there with oxygen problems...

For every $1million the US spends on a fighter jet - the Chinese spends probably a tenth of that on the same project, and the way the strategise is more effective than the US or A... Like they say: "defense is the best form of attack"... and China military defense strategy is arguably the best in the world... Don't even get me started with the Russians and what Messr Putin has started for the modernisation of the Russian military - everyone needs to be scared, trust me.... For all of the yanks wasteful military spending - the Russians still have the best ICBM technology in the world... and also the most effective missile defense technology... Perhaps, you were asleep when the Russians tested a new ICBM last year.... heck, the Israelis thought the ICBM was a UFO...

Even the hyped drones are becoming obsolete after the Iranians stay capturing them, and getting the technology for free... The yanks now escort all their drones in the gulf with fighter jets.... So, what's the point of having drones when you still have to get a couple of fighter jets to follow it everywhere?? Another wasteful military adventurism...

Don't believe the hype - all the superpowers(USA, China and RUssia - UK and FRance are irrelevant) have big guns and they can all inflict collateral damage on one another...

We all need to pray against war because when shiit hits the fan - it'll be maximum destruction for everyone involved...
yeah, a blood bath for all involved.
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by Ubenedictus(m): 9:53am On Mar 27, 2013
playah P:

You quite silly for saying this.
Have you been to north korea before? Have you even seen pictures or videos of north-korea?

The so called "supreme leader" is developing nuclear bombs and shit while the citizens are starving!

In north korea, there is no health care, food is rationed by the mayor of each community and if a citizen of north korea escapes from the country, his whole family would be put in the concentration camp where they slave the rest of their lives out.

This is real talk bro and no fiction... North-korea is a sick country!!
have u ever heard of the word "propaganda"?
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by adelaja70(m): 9:55am On Mar 27, 2013
Edoboy1: you are a fool for callin your country a USELESS nation. May GOD and satan punish u.
LMAO!....DOUBLE PORTION!
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by pleep(m): 9:55am On Mar 27, 2013
shy-mmex:


F-15s are obsolete - perhaps you're talking about F-16s - two different fighter jets...

Agreed, only the US has combat ready 5th generation fighter jets... However, the Russians and Chinese have done test flights for Sukhoi PAK FA and Chengdu J-20 respectively - and they should be deployed in the new few years...
The f-15 is not obsolete, and i can find no info that it is significantly worse than the f-16

But if the f-16 is a better plane than that means more trouble for the rest of the world
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by Nobody: 10:19am On Mar 27, 2013
I doubt that I have the capacity to sympathize with NK. I pity her people for their misery but not the nation herself. And if she puts her money where her mouth is, she'll be dead at the end of the skirmish.

Also, I think the Chinese will be hurt badly by such an event and, like @bookface said, will indees try to prevent it, but it will cost them tremendously to do so if it all comes to blows. If Russia weighs in, so will pretty much everyone else and we'll have us a merry old royal rumble.

This does indeed have the capacity to trigger a third world war with fronts pretty much everywhere because the Chinese will be trying to maintain a buffer as has already been said in siding in with NK and Russia might be capitalizing on an opportunity if China is on full offensive with the US. The Middle East will simply explode without the American pressure valve if America is wrestling with two heavyweights unless Japan and South Korea prove equal to handling the Pacific front and I think that they will. Europe might throw her weight behind the US, in fact, I think she will and that should be a deterrent to Russia.

Unless everyone considers the cons, everyone will go to war. That's how I see it and if alliances can be trusted, NK will vanish from the map and Russia and China will be badly set back for years if not a full decade at least in development. The US won't suffer as badly as they two will but she definitely will. The world economy will take a very nasty hit too.

Still can't see much more than reverberations or ricochets in Africa who manages to always gain nothing from such events while suffering everything. Africa is like the poor kid that suffers when the adulta have killed themselves off.

NK would be a grand fool to really go to war with even SK alone. She's got no reason to fight except hate and, perhaps, jealousy. She can't say she's fighting to protect herself if she treats herself the way it is reported that she does. She might just want to force someone else to feel her pain or something. And her opponents will be fighting to preserve life which motive can make weak men do superhuman things.
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by Nobody: 10:20am On Mar 27, 2013
pleep: The f-15 is not obsolete, and i can find no info that it is significantly worse than the f-16

But if the f-16 is a better plane than that means more trouble for the rest of the world

F-16 = trouble for the rest of the world? grin grin grin

Little Algeria has an air defense system that will shoot down any intruding F-16 with ease...

Don't make me laugh, bro... grin

Perhaps, trouble for countries like SOmalia, Sudan, and probably 99% of the countries in Africa...
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by Nobody: 10:24am On Mar 27, 2013
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by Kairoseki77: 10:25am On Mar 27, 2013
shy-mmex:
I also doubt the US controls all military satellites... The Russians are arguably still ahead of the yanks when it comes to space technology and the Chinese are catching up as well...

The world is getting bi-polar by day and I don't think no one country has bragging rights over the rest like it used to be... Don't believe the hype...

You need to check out what the Russians are building - you'd be scared for the future of humanity...

I forgot about the Russians on the moon...oh wait!
I forgot about the THREE Russian nuclear powered robots on Mars...oh wait!
I forgot about the Russian Hubble telescope...oh wait!
I forgot that GPS, Cell Phones, and communications satellites themselves were invented in Russia...oh wait!
I forgot that Russia has multiple private space flight companies like Space X...oh wait!
I forgot that Russia has a probe that just left the SOLAR SYSTEM...oh wait!

Russia being better than the US in space technology is laughable at best.
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by Kairoseki77: 10:35am On Mar 27, 2013
shy-mmex:


F-15s are obsolete - perhaps you're talking about F-16s - two different fighter jets...

Agreed, only the US has combat ready 5th generation fighter jets... However, the Russians and Chinese have done test flights for Sukhoi PAK FA and Chengdu J-20 respectively - and they should be deployed in the new few years...

The US does not rely on F - 15's. That's ridiculous. The US exports all the F - 16's in the world, it's not going to use weaker aircraft in its own fleet.

The US uses F - 18's (it has 500 of them).

Also, while China and Russia are busy building 5th generation fighter jets, the US has already set a 10 year timetable for the first sixth generation fighter - that will fly itself.
Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by bookface: 10:50am On Mar 27, 2013
shy-mmex:


Obviously, the guy who answered the question is an ex US marine, what do you expect him to say Military isn't about spending power - it's about how effective you're and the loyalty/discipline of your combatants.... Most of US military spending is on foreign bases they don't really need and bogus things... The US just grounded F-35s - do you how much it wasted on the project alone The F-22s are still there with oxygen problems...

For every $1million the US spends on a fighter jet - the Chinese spends probably a tenth of that on the same project, and the way the strategise is more effective than the US or A... Like they say: "defense is the best form of attack"... and China military defense strategy is arguably the best in the world... Don't even get me started with the Russians and what Messr Putin has started for the modernisation of the Russian military - everyone needs to be scared, trust me.... For all of the yanks wasteful military spending - the Russians still have the best ICBM technology in the world... and also the most effective missile defense technology... Perhaps, you were asleep when the Russians tested a new ICBM last year.... heck, the Israelis thought the ICBM was a UFO...

Even the hyped drones are becoming obsolete after the Iranians stay capturing them, and getting the technology for free... The yanks now escort all their drones in the gulf with fighter jets.... So, what's the point of having drones when you still have to get a couple of fighter jets to follow it everywhere?? Another wasteful military adventurism...

Don't believe the hype - all the superpowers(USA, China and RUssia - UK and FRance are irrelevant) have big guns and they can all inflict collateral damage on one another...

We all need to pray against war because when shiit hits the fan - it'll be maximum destruction for everyone involved...



Let's be realistic bruv, there's hardly any military technology that Russia currently operates that cannot be duplicated or made better by the yanks within a year or two!

Having a faster ICBM or stronger missile defense is just like claiming "my bullet moves faster than yours", truth is it no longer matters. Americas strategy has moved from investing in military technology - that may only become subordinate once the other side comes up with something else - to building stronger alliance and global prompt response. In addition, the MAD doctrine remains in place. Develop nice ICBMs all you want, as long as the US of A has in its arsenal 15,000 kilton nuclear weapons mounted on stealthy submarines, your ICBMs wouldn't matter.

Also, as part of the MAD doctrine, there's a limit to which both sides can develop their missile technology. If either Russia or China gets too adventurous, US may consider putting anti ballistic missiles in space - it's not as if this hasn't been considered before.

America is the only country in this day and age that can declare war on any country and have its military in the battlefield within hours before the enemy has a chance to even prepare a missile launcher! Russia has only got one carrier in active service, US has got 10, each of them with super active stealthy falcons that can be taking out your missile defense radar within minutes before you even come to terms with what went wrong. Russia is currently shitting in its pants with NATO's advancement towards the east. If Ukraine and Georgia gets assigned a NATO status, Russia's military influence will be well subdued, it wouldn't matter how fast their ICBMs are.

Also I am not sure what you call superpowers by excluding UK and France and including the Chinese. The Chinese have military strength relies on the sheer number of its ground troops, but in terms of Air superiority, and naval strength, UK and France will beat the Chinese any day any time, individually, talk less of a joint action.

China sucks at war! The only reason it appeared to be a superpower is because more than a third of the whole world's population is ready to defend it. Yes it achieved it's military objectives by pushing the US troops back during the korean war, but asides from that China has had its arse kicked in almost every major conflict you can think of. Even with its huge population and Soviet co-operation, Japan still managed a successful invasion of China and the fall of Beijing in the world war 2. The same Japan that had its arsed round house kicked by Uncle Sam.

China's modern day military strength is still by troop numbers and a nuclear arsenal not technology! China can afford to put a million soldiers on the battlefield and lose 200,000 soldiers without batting an eye. This is all fine in a conventional war where you have boots on ground, but the US, Russia, Brtain and France are well past that age of warfare.

China's strategy is to protect China from invasion, but it knows it will take a huge pounding if it attempts to start a war outside of its boundary. Britain and French may have lost their empire status, but putting them down against China is a big mistake.

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Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by pleep(m): 10:50am On Mar 27, 2013
shy-mmex:


F-16 = trouble for the rest of the world? grin grin grin

Little Algeria has an air defense system that will shoot down any intruding F-16 with ease...

Don't make me laugh, bro... grin

Perhaps, trouble for countries like SOmalia, Sudan, and probably 99% of the countries in Africa...
Did you forget about the 63 b-2 stealth bombers that will destroy all enemy radar and defense systems before the conventional air force engages? The EF-111 raven is a U.S plane that has the sole mission of destroying enemy radar with electric pulses and it successfully crippled the Iraqi air defense with no losses in the gulf war.

Iraq was one of the largest air-forces in the world and was absolutely decimated by America.

As it stands no air defense system can stop the U.S, not even the Russians. Their S 400 systems cannot detect american stealth. Not only are the current bombers equipted with this, but so is the f-22 and the new f-35s will be also (according to the manufacturers)

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Re: North-Korea In Combat Posture To Hit US by Nobody: 11:14am On Mar 27, 2013
Ok. Shymexx, your turn.

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