ab1x:
@sosolid007:

You are welcome. 25 x 40 should be able to accommodate 1000 pieces of fish but I will advise you to under stock rather than over stock. Every one is clamoring for change and as such change has indeed happened in this country so also change has happened in grow out catfish production, it is no longer changing to local feeds at 1 and half month, it is now between 25- 27 days maximum. You only need to feed your fingerlings with 0.5mm, 0.8mm and 1.2mm before switching to local feeds which start from 2mm (indomie size). I have used both feeds in the past but I still prefer coppens to Ziggler any time any day. You don't need to get any tanks. You only need to channel the water using pipes to each of the pond from the borehole. You don't need to get any filter for the borehole. As regards hatching, Robonski will attend to that for you. I don't make feeds but you can easily do local feeds at any nearest feedmills

sosolid007:
Hello All,

Before I start let me say a BIG THANK YOU TO Robonski and Ab1x for all the information you have provided. I actually started my farm last year having read your forum

I am a follower and I have tried everything you have said and I can say it all worked, I harvested last week.

Few mortality basically 2 to maturity once i sorted to the earth pond. I have 3 earth ponds for now but increasing it to 9 by end of the month.

My source of water is stream water ,each ponds has its own inflow and outflow

Some questions to ensure that I am still on the right track.

I buy fingerlings once they are 3 weeks old rear them for 2 months on coppen and transfer them to my earth pond which is 25 x 40 and accommodates 800 fishes. Can the size accommodate more than 800?. Am I over stocking or under stocking? Please give me the capacity for 25x40. i want to stock 1000 in each pond and want to know the size to use.

Also, AB1X I read your formula and want to start using your formula in my next production phase but want to know if it is something one can buy from you in bulk. let me know. I harvested after 6 months and they are averaging 1.3kg but some say that is not good. I think i might have under feed them or my people sometimes are not putting the right quantity to make the feeds Please see pictures of my harvest. Hence, the reason I want to use your formula for my next production if you produce in bulk.

Also, which is best Ziggler or coppens . I use coppen already. What is your personal experience with ziggler.

Also, for fingerlings for the 1 month and half what size of coppens did you give them?

Since, I am increasing to 9 ponds i am doing bore hole. Which size of tank should i get for 9 earth ponds. Though they will have natural stream water. I want to do it as a back up for dry season. should i also buy a filter for the borehole water, is it necessary?

Finally, how much will it cost to build a standard/professional hatching facility.

Thanks and look forward to your response

WhoBeThisMan:
wow that's great. Kudos to yoi. How was ur sales? Did you make profit in this first one?

sosolid007:



Hello ABx1,

Thanks for the response.

Do local feeds float because i noticed that the fingerlins find it hard to eat from the ground and that is why i use coppens for a month and a half before i switch to local. Except you mean local feeds can float now.

if that is the case i need to get to your feedmill fast. Which feed mill can convert my feeds to floating. Please advise

ab1x:



The kind of feed mills that I am talking about here does not float. Don't get me wrong, there are some local feeds that floats however research have shown that they do not produce the kind of result the sinkable local feeds produced. I have one feed mill here that does floating local feeds but at the creation of the feed mill, a lot of people patronize them but when they tried it and did not get result they had to switch back to sinkable local feeds.

Of course, I found out why they did not get the same result like the sinkable local feeds, I learnt that most of the ingredient (soya, gnc, maize etc) go through boiling process before they are used to make the floating feeds. It all implies that all the nutritional value must have been extracted out to make the local floating feeds.

To reduce wastage when using local sinkable feeds, you need to apply on a spot feeding method and take your time to feed them gently and stop when you know that they have reached their saturation point.

sosolid007:
Hello All,

Before I start let me say a BIG THANK YOU TO Robonski and Ab1x for all the information you have provided. I actually started my farm last year having read your forum

I am a follower and I have tried everything you have said and I can say it all worked, I harvested last week.

Few mortality basically 2 to maturity once i sorted to the earth pond. I have 3 earth ponds for now but increasing it to 9 by end of the month.

My source of water is stream water ,each ponds has its own inflow and outflow

Some questions to ensure that I am still on the right track.

I buy fingerlings once they are 3 weeks old rear them for 2 months on coppen and transfer them to my earth pond which is 25 x 40 and accommodates 800 fishes. Can the size accommodate more than 800?. Am I over stocking or under stocking? Please give me the capacity for 25x40. i want to stock 1000 in each pond and want to know the size to use.

Also, AB1X I read your formula and want to start using your formula in my next production phase but want to know if it is something one can buy from you in bulk. let me know. I harvested after 6 months and they are averaging 1.3kg but some say that is not good. I think i might have under feed them or my people sometimes are not putting the right quantity to make the feeds Please see pictures of my harvest. Hence, the reason I want to use your formula for my next production if you produce in bulk.

Also, which is best Ziggler or coppens . I use coppen already. What is your personal experience with ziggler.

Also, for fingerlings for the 1 month and half what size of coppens did you give them?

Since, I am increasing to 9 ponds i am doing bore hole. Which size of tank should i get for 9 earth ponds. Though they will have natural stream water. I want to do it as a back up for dry season. should i also buy a filter for the borehole water, is it necessary?

Finally, how much will it cost to build a standard/professional hatching facility.

Thanks and look forward to your response

aquadude15:


You are a genius bros. Can i have your number sir. I have lot to discuss with you. Thanks

mercylicious:

So u are just knowing now? That guy is 3much.

At Abix, is there a different formulae fo the feed for a month old fish or is it still the old formulae u gave? Do u start the month old with 2mm feed?

chilanfarms:
@abi & robon... u guys r onedafu! Pls can my fish adjust to spot feeding? The breed is hetro they don't do surface feeding lik d clarias, u hardly see their full body... They grow bigger n eat alot...

robonski15:


I was doing some findings the other day and I categorised some wonderful fish farmers...ab1x For feed formulation, excelsior for overall management, lagbaja for outstanding technology, Tokugawa for the construction of ponds earthen/concrete, Juvefarms for production of fries. I don't think anybody can beat this team

aquadude15:

Gbam
Why you come omit your name bros

robonski15:


I was doing some findings the other day and I categorised some wonderful fish farmers...ab1x For feed formulation, excelsior for overall management, lagbaja for outstanding technology, Tokugawa for the construction of ponds earthen/concrete, Juvefarms for production of fries. I don't think anybody can beat this team

mercylicious:

So u are just knowing now? That guy is 3much.

At Abix, is there a different formulae fo the feed for a month old fish or is it still the old formulae u gave? Do u start the month old with 2mm feed?

ab1x:



A month old fish should be able to pick 2mm local feeds also known as indomie size. Peradventure, they cannot pick it you can either continue with 1.2mm or 1.5mm because both has 56% and 48% respectively crude protein. Please, do not use 2mm coppens because it has 42% and 45% which is quite low considering their age.

ab1x:



The kind of feed mills that I am talking about here does not float. Don't get me wrong, there are some local feeds that floats however research have shown that they do not produce the kind of result the sinkable local feeds produced. I have one feed mill here that does floating local feeds but at the creation of the feed mill, a lot of people patronize them but when they tried it and did not get result they had to switch back to sinkable local feeds.

Of course, I found out why they did not get the same result like the sinkable local feeds, I learnt that most of the ingredient (soya, gnc, maize etc) go through boiling process before they are used to make the floating feeds. It all implies that all the nutritional value must have been extracted out to make the local floating feeds.

To reduce wastage when using local sinkable feeds, you need to apply on a spot feeding method and take your time to feed them gently and stop when you know that they have reached their saturation point.

Ttalk:


I think this answered my question that your formula is for sinking feed

Ttalk:


Oga Ab1x, what is the FCR of your formula 1&2?

ab1x:




Please be more specific about what you mean by FCR;

First Call Resolution
FCR First Contact Resolution
FCR Federal Case Registry
FCR Fire Control Radar
FCR Flat-Coated Retriever (dog breed)
FCR Free Credit Report
FCR Fludarabine, Cyclophosphamide and Rituximab (chemotherapy regimen)
FCR FIFO Control Register
FCR Foreign Credential Recognition (Canada)
FCR Flexor Carpi Radialis
FCR Feed Conversion Rate (animal nutrition)
FCR Functional Chief Representative (US Army)
FCR Full Cost Recovery (UK)
FCR Fire-Cracked Rock
FCR Federal Court Reports (Australia)
FCR Forwarder's Certificate of Receipt
FCR Faster Cast Rate (gaming)
FCR Flight Control Room (NASA)
FCR Forest City Ratner Companies
FCR Fault Code Reader (automotive engineering)
FCR Federal Contracts Report
FCR Football Club de Rouen (French: Football Club of Rouen; Rouen, France)
FCR Fixed Charge Rate
FCR Forwarding Agents Certificate
FCR Flow Change Request (LFAP - Message)

Ttalk:


Oga Ab1x, you go kill person with laughter o, i mean Feed Conversion Ratio of your formula

ab1x:



A month old fish should be able to pick 2mm local feeds also known as indomie size. Peradventure, they cannot pick it you can either continue with 1.2mm or 1.5mm because both has 56% and 48% respectively crude protein. Please, do not use 2mm coppens because it has 42% and 45% which is quite low considering their age.

dy4life:



All things being equal, your fishes should be
around 200 – 300 grams in 2 months with
floating feed alone, if they are being fed
properly; after then, you can switch to sinking
feed and give them the following feed sizes:
200 – 300 grams: 2mm feed size
300 to 600 grams : 4mm feed size
600 grams to 1kg+ : 6mm feed siz email.
Pls I need your explanation on this ab1x n the rest guru in the house

Omoedeki:
Oga ab1x how economical are those your formula cos from my calculations it will cost around #7k per 15kg which is more expensive than coppens. Abeg enlighten me.

ab1x:




It is quite economical. There will be reduction in the price of the feeds as the fish continue to grow. The logic is that when the fish is small they tend to consume quality feeds which is quite costly but as times goes by there will be reduction in the cost of feeds. By the time they reach 3 and half month to four month, the cost per kg should not be more than 250 naira per kg

jaz:
I have a question though; what size of pond is adequate for 5000 catfishes to table size, both concrete and earthen ponds in ft dimension.

robonski15:


concrete and earthen pond differ
Earthen pond: width x length x depth
................................ x 2
3

Concrete pond: width x length x depth
............................. x 5
3