gj22:


A shadow killed king renly..After Stannis F*cked her and she gave birth to the shadow(unarguable)

Lord of light brings people back from the dead..(unarguable)

Jeoffrey died after stannis said his name into the fire..(arguable)

But some how if burning shireen works and Stannis successfully sacks winterfell and survives the weather, it is bad writing?

The witch has always been right but if she is right this time, it is bad writing? dude come on

LeonStark:


He could have managed. Fished the lakes, which will be teeming with fish since its cold. They could have shown us Northern lords. There are lots of Castles he could have gone to ask for help, or he coulda tried to ask. They could have shown them suffering, not for him to just outright listen to Mel. He could have waited for Davos. It looked as if he sent Davos off, in a white elephant quest, and when Davos was gone burnt Shireen. He could have killed the horses and eaten them. As he burnt Shireen, food won't just come out of nowhere if it wasnt there in the first place. Davos was a smuggler for f*cks sake. Stannis just gave up.

gj22:

Please who is this azhor azai? (Only tell me if it has been mentioned on the show) I have never heard it on the show.

LeonStark:


They were aided by a few north men who were against Bolton rule and wanted to save "The Ned's girl". And were down to eating horses. Out of 800 horses 60 something remained.I cant remember the exact number. They also fished. And although his men(the ones that follow R'hllor) were pressuring him to offer a sacrifice he says; "Half my army is made up of unbelievers. I will have no burnings. Pray harder." And they were constantly on the march, to reach Winterfell as soon as possible. Finally they reach a crofter's village that is a days march West of WF.

LeonStark:


Yes, they dont. They are cowards who hide behind masks and do their killings at night. That can't face the unsullied.

nani667:
That's how she just left on the Dragon ni sha... Not even thinking about the people she left Behind...

gj22:


You are assuming that food is his only problem.... its not

Even roose bolton said it is imposible to get an army to where they were stranded BECAUSE OF THE SNOW.

What will these lords do? Have you forgotten they are in the middle of nowhere? Dying of cold? Do the lords have the power to bend snow?

ApexTitan:


Whether a man watches the show or a man reads the books, it is all the same to the many faced god.

kay9:


Lol @ bolded...

It has indeed been mentioned in the show but you probably missed, not being a book-reader and all...
Azor Ahai was a warrior said to have fought the forces of the cold darkness during the Long Night thousands of years ago. A prophecy from the religion of the Lord of Light says he will return again whenever the cold dark gathers again. Melisandre proclaimed Stannis as Azor Ahai Reborn when she pulled that his flaming sword out a pyre of made of his bannermen who refused to convert to the new religion (early season 2, I think).

LeonStark:


The Northmen know their land. They were able to navigate it with Stannis. Their garrons and themselves wore bear foot claws they make which bend upwards, that made it possible to walk on the snow, and gave them a sure footing. And they arent in the middle of nowhere that you keep saying, they're in the North. The Northmen taught them to fish the icy lake. They did much more.

gj22:


All these is not possible on the show because roose bolton made it clear that it is impossible to get men that far through the snow. Food is not their only problem, and they were loosing men. They were dying of cold already.

In the books, food was their main problem but on the show, the high snow is their main problem.

gj22:

By nowhere, i meant there was nothing for miles around them.

LeonStark:


But they werent stranded. They were in the wolfswood.

themodernman:

Oh boy see map? Some people sabi Westeros pass map of Nigeria sef

UjSizzle:
Dunno what Jon Snow did to these people



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcNoB4O9Mg8#

UjSizzle:
Listen people.

Not every opinion here counts as a 'book reader being unsatisfied' thing. Most often than not it's more like 'A show viewer unsatisfied' thing. Would you feel the same way about some people's opinions if you were certain they hadn't read the darn books?
We watch the show because we like it. We read the books because we like it too. I happen to like both because they're going different direction, so it makes zero sense that anyone would say I am offended at the direction of the tv series.

Stop being unnecessary touchy. No book reader has made mention of a book here and yet you non-readers won't give it a rest.

Let's not turn this into a battle please. A number of people here have personal opinions concerning the show. Many others are fine with whatever is thrown at them. Still part of the fun of all these is our varying reactions to the episodes and characters (development and otherwise), how far we are willing to let our imaginations fly and our rant of disappointment/disapproval when the show takes a different course.

It's all normal.

So please enough with all the book talk. We're fans of the same show. Not everything should count as a spoiler here. If you think it does then maybe you need to spend more time arguing with people in the real world-- it'll teach you how conflicting opinions work.

All I'm saying is open your minds. We are not enemies.

I hate epistles so I'll stop now.


Thanks.

Signed... management

LeonStark:


Yes, if he prevails as king. No true king does such.

UjSizzle:
Listen people.

Not every opinion here counts as a 'book reader being unsatisfied' thing. Most often than not it's more like 'A show viewer unsatisfied' thing. Would you feel the same way about some people's opinions if you were certain they hadn't read the darn books?
We watch the show because we like it. We read the books because we like it too. I happen to like both because they're going different direction, so it makes zero sense that anyone would say I am offended at the direction of the tv series.

Stop being unnecessary touchy. No book reader has made mention of a book here and yet you non-readers won't give it a rest.

Let's not turn this into a battle please. A number of people here have personal opinions concerning the show. Many others are fine with whatever is thrown at them. Still part of the fun of all these is our varying reactions to the episodes and characters (development and otherwise), how far we are willing to let our imaginations fly and our rant of disappointment/disapproval when the show takes a different course.

It's all normal.

So please enough with all the book talk. We're fans of the same show. Not everything should count as a spoiler here. If you think it does then maybe you need to spend more time arguing with people in the real world-- it'll teach you how conflicting opinions work.

All I'm saying is open your minds. We are not enemies.

I hate epistles so I'll stop now.


Thanks.

Signed... management

gj22:


I agree.

The spoilers is not the problem (mod doing a great job). Its that people are critisizn the writters unfairly.

for example,

After the episode, show watchers came and started criticixn stannis for what he did but book readers came and started criticixn the writers by calling it "bad character development".

We the show watchers understand the character for what he is. But the book readers understand the character IN THE BOOKS so they use that to judge the show character WHICH IS WRONG.

The show watchers judge the characters for eho they are while the book reaaders judge for who they should be,

themodernman:

Oh boy see map? Some people sabi Westeros pass map of Nigeria sef

UjSizzle:

I wonder how many Azhor azai we'll have. Mel thinks it's Stannis. The other female worshipper across the narrow sea thinks it's Dany. Some of us think it's Jon Snow with all the Targ fan craze going on.

Btw were they really stranded? Stan knew the situation of things when he left Castle Black. He didn't seem it fit to kill his child until Ramsay destroyed his food supply and armory. Had those been untouched, I don't think Shireen would have been sacrificed. Somehow he would have managed the snow and marched on to Winterfell.

Aida13:
Holy s-h-i-t I cried this episode!!! The number one shocker character death will always be when Ned Stark was beheaded. For me the burning of Shireen will definitely be a close second.

Stannis is soo gonna die when Davos gets back and finds out what happened. Red Queen better get ready!!


Damn still dazed... Loved that girl's character...