italo: ^^^...will never make them Jesus' Church.

They'll always be King Henry's visa to open adultery.

Enigma:

^^^^

Where is that Idi Amin gif when you need it?

Edit: found it!

CarCam:

Yeah, I know, that Idi Amin animation gif is on point

and is handy for peculiar or ludicrous moments,

Am about making one, will share with all as soon as it's done

CarCam:

@Pastor AIO

Ghenghen! Pastor AIO!! - Jokingly, my fav trouble stirrer !!!

You've been on a shabbat?

Anyway FBO others

http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2012/08/where-two-or-three-are-gathered-and-other-bad-interpretations/

Enigma:
Ah, here is one more question; and you don't even have to answer it, just like you haven't answered the last set.

Pastor AIO:


I hope you understand that Jesus was talking about fellowship there and the importance of it for worship and for acheiving goals. Even where there is nobody around Christ is there too.

19Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. 20For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Matthew 18



Agreed, but it doesn't say that the church meetings must be colossal affairs in great big buildings. 2 or 3 people can encourage and warn each other. In fact in a big institution you are more likely to get lost in the crowd and nobody knows your business and nobody encourages or upbraids you.

I said:Besides you are still lost on this idea that the church is a building and a man made institutions. To which you respond.

I said you were lost in the idea of church being an building and man made institution because you say things like this:

I understand that where there are christians there is church, cos christians are the church. So how can there be no church around where there are 2 neighbours who are christians, unless you mean something different by church. The only other thing that I can imagine you are saying is that there is no registered church with a building and an institutional 'structure and purpose'. Am I wrong? If so, please correct me.


1000 people can't fulfil the purpose of the church either, unless they have the holy spirit. It is not the number of people. If there is need for prophecy in an area and there are only 3 people in the church there it is nothing for the spirit to inspire one of them to start prophesying if he hasn't before. Or to send a new member with the gift of prophecy. The church is worldwide and it is only fellowships that are limited to an area. Just as, i guess to use the imagery of 1Cor 12, the eyes are located in the head while the toes are located on the feet and the liver and kidneys etc each have where they are located yet they work together to fulfill the purpose of one living church.



Sir, you said one has to be called to be in the ministry. I happen to know that you are in a ministry. I asked you what the criteria was for knowing that you are called. This is another of the many questions I've been asking of you since and I am yet to receive a response to any of them. What better way to demonstrate the criteria of knowing you are called than you use yourself as an example. If you find it too personal can you then simply tell us in general terms how one is to know that he is called and how the rest of us are to know too. I don't think that has left the topic at all, you brought it up right within the topic.


Okay o, leave that part.



You're looking puzzled when I tell you to go and rest cos you are tired. Did I not warn you not to put words in my mouth, like you poodle Deepsight was wont to do.
Remember I said:

Yet you deliberately decided to keep on using the word tired. Plus you then open a new thread about needing to take a rest. If you don't know it then let me give you the diagnosis of why. I say it is because you have a weariness in your soul, and it is been expressed subliminally. Am I wrong? I'll accept the possibility that I am wrong, at the end of the day it is your life and you know about it best. But sha, the bottomline of all that is please don't put words in my mouth. I never mentioned anything about being tired. Speak for yourself.


I can see that this is going to be a sticking point for you if I don't answer it, even though it is one of the things that I was determined not to answer on NL.
I am C of E, denominationally speaking. Happy?



You are saying that the purpose of the church is to build the church. I guess you're right. And the purpose of a dog is to be a dog. and the purpose of dinner is to dine. Let us have dinner in order to dine.
Menh, you are just talking abstract nonsense. 'perfecting saints into maturity'. What do mature saints do? What does the church do? Did Jesus not say that the kingdom will be like a great tree when matured and even the birds will find shelter under it?

He set another parable before them, saying, "The Kingdom of Heaven is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field; which indeed is smaller than all seeds. But when it is grown, it is greater than the herbs, and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in its branches."

– Matthew 13:31–32

The entire purpose of Jesus ministry is to fulfill the law and the apex of the Law is Love God, and Love your neighbour. How we love our neighbour is amply explained in the parable of the good Samaritan. How we love God is amply explained here:

Pastor AIO:

This in your name matter has caused quite a bit of yawa. Let us look at an example.

Was Christ in the midst of the Christian Praying Assembly? This was the gathering 'in christ's name' led by Rev King.

And while we are considering that let us also consider Christ's own words. . . .

22"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' 23"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'


It is as if Jesus knew that this 'in your name' matter would be abused so he said the above explicitly.

ps. Nice link CarCam.

Pastor AIO:
Says who? Who told you that 2 people meeting together in fellowship doesn't make a church? Where 2 or 3 are gathered in his name, he is there. Besides you are still lost on this idea that the church is a building and a man made institutions. No!! The Church is those who have been called out of the world, for christ. And if Christ is in the midst of them they can 'continue like that' for as long as Christ wills it.
Organisations have purpose and structure. The Church are simply those called out for Christ.....

Enigma: ^^^ I'm not giving you anything! Your choice what you want to do or what you want to discuss or what you want to post.

You don't even have to answer my questions! Although I will continue to ask such questions, make such points, and use "quotations" that I consider to be "of pertinence".

Ah, here is one more question; and you don't even have to answer it, just like you haven't answered the last set.


Thousands of Anglicans will be holding church services tomorrow, some even including 'Holy Communion': will Jesus Christ be in the midst of them?

Logicboy03: Lol.....the pig enjoys rolling in filth


Just like the op enjoys rolling in lies so that he can put his minstry on equal footing with the catholic church in the history of xtianity......I expected Italo not to engage.

Play with a pig abd you get filthy

Ubenedictus: so u can't give d link that attributes that prayer to st chysostum? Hehehe

italo: The lawless ones: "we gathered in your name and performed miracles and cast out demons."

Jesus: "depart from me. I have never known you, you lawless people."

Can somebody say a big amen to God's word?!

Enigma:

Ah, you have to defend the faith of your papa and mama! Understandable.




Of course I can; but I won't.

So you cannot do the simple task of using google. Hehehehehehehehehe

Enigma:

Ah, you have to defend the faith of your papa and mama! Understandable.

Ubenedictus: hahahah humour me!

Logicboy03:


Fail. Pops and moms aint catholic........fail fail fail

Logicboy03: Lol.....the pig enjoys rolling in filth


Just like the op enjoys rolling in lies so that he can put his minstry on equal footing with the catholic church in the history of xtianity......I expected Italo not to engage.

Play with a pig abd you get filthy

truthislight:

lol, this is extremely funny o

an atheist being so extremely passionate about the "genuine church".

the Joke of the year.