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Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by eagleeye2: 10:31am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE:

Bigaro Diop:
http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/bdiop.htm



Leopold sedar senghor


http://www.ascleiden.nl/?q=content/webdossiers/l%C3%A9opold-s%C3%A9dar-senghor


Mongo Beti

http://www.ascleiden.nl/?q=content/webdossiers/mongo-beti

I can list a lot more

I said give me a list of African Authors receiving the same praises as "Father of Modern African Litrature" with Achebe. Literature happened to be a Major for me while in the University, so when it comes to African Literature I don't engage in blind arguement.
Please if you can not provide names of other African authors, Poets, dramatists, novelists who are refered to as "Father of Modern African Literature" I will advice you this time to leave the thread.
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by vanbonattel: 10:32am On May 26, 2013
eagle,eye:

According to you "Achebe is a Local Champion and a Hero for only Nigerian" but the same Achebe has his work "Things Fall Apart" translated into 50 languages.
Achebe top the list of Most Influential people according to forbes.
HABA MUST BIGOTRY cloud your sense of reasoning. I don't really blame people like you, I just pity the younger ones you must be feeding with HATE.

An internationally recognized and respected world champion, that is CHINUA ACHEBE. Nothing can dim his shinning star.
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by vanbonattel: 10:34am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: if you have nothing to say you shut your mouth and learn how to read,

For the last time, chinua achebe is popular in the Anglophone world. Period does that mean he's not popular?

His works are in 50 languages and right now, THINGS FALL APART is being translated into Duala language in Cameroun.
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by eagleeye2: 10:35am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: ^^ I clearly mentioned the S.African on this forum

Will go through the links later, but from what I see they don't call him the father of anything..

Later
Go and read Mandela's statement at the passing of Achebe. You can google it.
Just like you are here arguing blindly, if someone from your country who is well grounded in the literary world comes here, he wouldn't make some of the disgraceful statements you are making.
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Nobody: 10:39am On May 26, 2013
Here is an African language with a great history of literature, http://esaach.org.za/index.php?title=Xhosa_Literature
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Nobody: 10:44am On May 26, 2013
ACM10: Dude, you have issues with consistency. Now listen to yourself.


By campride
You have problem with comprehension.

The bolded simply means that people are considered great in the sphere of influence. Like I said your lots are known for bogus claim, first this ,best this, etc.
Take for example football, if now someone ask you who is the greatest African footballer what will you answer? Do you think the answer will b the same for everyone? For you who has been influenced by Chinua he might the best , for us Francophone and Cameroonian he's not the father of anything and definitely not the best/most famous among us.. how hard is it to understand? There's is No Cameroonian author who will cite Achebe as model that's the sad truth..so calling me out for problem of consistency is laughable and worthless, in fact you are not making any sense and try to gang up but no matter what you are not going to make me accept something false.

You first claimed that his book was used in Gabon primary school and it is false.

I asked you to give me the name of non Nigerian and non anglophone that he influenced, you haven't been able to do so

I asked you his style and how it was different from his predecessors you couldn't answer?

I asked you what makes him the father of Africa literature, you haven't been able to answer ?

I feel like arguing with someone with poor knowledge in literature... If thats the case let's stop arguing because you are simply blindly defending your kinsman no matter what....

Answer the questions above simple.

For disclaimer here are my claims:

1) Chinua is not the father of anything.
2) Chinua influence/fame is in the Anglophone world?
How many time the dude has been invited in a francophone, Hispanic,lusophone or Arabic country?
And yet you want to call him the father of African literature? On which basis? By describing Igbo culture? How many people know or relate to Igbo? Which movements or ideology has been created by Chinua to b called the father of something?

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Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Nobody: 10:49am On May 26, 2013
eagle,eye:

I said give me a list of African Authors receiving the same praises as "Father of Modern African Litrature" with Achebe. Literature happened to be a Major for me while in the University, so when it comes to African Literature I don't engage in blind arguement.
Please if you can not provide names of other African authors, Poets, dramatists, novelists who are refered to as "Father of Modern African Literature" I will advice you this time to leave the thread.

Your achebe praise comes from journalist? And others article. How many respected African authors used such words to describe him? Even sonyinka can't use this words to describe achebe.
Lol @ literature was my major really tell me more and they told you achebe was/is the father of Africa literature? What did you read contemporary? Western, Africa, because literature is too broad.
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Nobody: 10:51am On May 26, 2013
van bonattel:

His works are in 50 languages and right now, THINGS FALL APART is being translated into Duala language in Cameroun.
Douala is a dying/dead language
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Nobody: 10:56am On May 26, 2013
eagle,eye:

I said give me a list of African Authors receiving the same praises as "Father of Modern African Litrature" with Achebe. Literature happened to be a Major for me while in the University, so when it comes to African Literature I don't engage in blind arguement.
Please if you can not provide names of other African authors, Poets, dramatists, novelists who are refered to as "Father of Modern African Literature" I will advice you this time to leave the thread.

No one can disrespect Senghor esp not a a person who majored in literature(esp Africa literature)
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by vanbonattel: 11:01am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: Douala is a dying/dead language

You see, and yet they want a piece of Achebe to bring them back to life!
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Nobody: 11:04am On May 26, 2013
It is simple make your ranking: Africa top 10 authors, we will see how biased and poorly educated you are, I bet you don't even know more than 10authors talk less about non Nigerian authors. Your 200M people are lying u. What is great in Nigeria is not automatically great somewhere else.

How many artists(non nigerian do you know)
Authors
Professors
Etc....
Tomorrow you will tell me that x inventors in Nigeria is the greatest of the whole Africa,lmao.
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Nobody: 11:05am On May 26, 2013
van bonattel:

You see, and yet they want a piece of Achebe to bring them back to life!
the translation is more folkloric than anything else.
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by EASTSIDAZ: 11:08am On May 26, 2013
eagle,eye:

Go and read Mandela's statement at the passing of Achebe. You can google it.
Just like you are here arguing blindly, if someone from your country who is well grounded in the literary world comes here, he wouldn't make some of the disgraceful statements you are making.

Don't you know that that lad is a yeroba? Do you need an oracle to decipher it? The only people in the world feeling bitter and inferior about Achebe status as the Patriarch of modern african literature are these minority tribe called soyika his yeroba people. They are usually dark skinned beggarly like their hausa master
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by OneNaira6: 11:10am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE:



Kenya honors chinua achebe
http://allafrica.com/stories/201305240421.html

Senegal
One of Senegal’s best-known novelists, 66-year-old Boubacar Boris Diop, was in high school when he read “Things Fall Apart.” He says that in it, he found “the real Africa.”

“I systematically advise young authors to read Chinua Achebe. I’ve often bought copies of ‘Things Fall Apart’ and offered them to young writers. It’s well written — in the sense that it’s not written at all. In it, you won’t find any great lyrical phrases. That’s the great force of this book. It’s written in simple language,” said Diop.
http://thegrio.com/2013/03/22/chinua-achebe-inspired-generations-of-nigerian-writers/

A tribute to Chinua Achebe by a Cameroonian. Interesting post that caught my attention from her article is this
Like many other Cameroonians, I first encountered Chinua Achebe in a secondary school classroom
http://saharareporters.com/article/tribute-chinua-achebe-joyce-ashuntantang

I wonder between you and her whose telling the truth. Did you even pay attention in your classes when you lived in Cameroon?

Ethiopia tribute to Chinua Achebe
http://ecadforum.com/blog/chinua-achebe-a-great-african-oracle/

Ghana tribute to Chinua Achebe
http://www.modernghana.com/news/465265/1/politics-and-prose-a-tribute-to-chinua-achebe.html

Diamani Zuma, African Union chairperson tribute to Chinua Achebe. Emphasis once more, AFRICAN UNION
http://en.starafrica.com/news/au-chairperson-pays-tribute-to-chinua-achebe-as-father-of-modern-african-literature.html

Gabon tribute
http://allafrica.com/stories/201304051440.html

Morocco tribute
http://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2013/03/84589/chinua-achebe-death-of-the-man-of-a-continent/
This one even gave him a new title "man of the continent". Since the pain of father of modern literature is biting una, I wonder if this title by Moroccans go bite some people too.

Sudan, though it was a story on his burial, one part of the article stood out and that this
It was a fitting tribute to the respect Achebe carried among the people here and for many others around the world who knew him through his books, which many say is the first African voice heard in modern literature.
http://news.sudanvisiondaily.com/details.html?rsnpid=222881

Congo tribute
http://www.warscapes.com/opinion/chinua-achebe-man-behind-writer

Zimbabwe tribute
http://allafrica.com/stories/201303230049.html

angola
During a career that spanned decades, Achebe, hailed by many as the "father of modern African literature,"
http://www.angolaandworld.com/news/africa/884

Somalia
http://kiyoandfilo..com/2013/05/somali-writer-nuruddin-farah-remembers.html

Rwanda tribute
http://www.newtimes.co.rw/news/index.php?i=15305&a=65230

Egypt, not much written but amazing they accepted this title of Achebe's and used it in their article
[quote]Nigerian novelist and poet Chinua Achebe, widely seen as a grandfather of modern African literature, has died at the age of 82, publisher Penguin said on Friday.

East African editorial publisher aka East African writers tribute to chinua Achebe
http://niaje.com/tribute-in-honour-of-celebrated-african-author-chinua-achebe-in-nairobi-tomorrow/

My hand is even getting tired self and Africa has 53 countries so I'll just end it with this

40 most powerful celebrities in Africa and guess who ranked first
http://www.forbes.com/pictures/ehed45mef/chinua-achebe/#content

List of best selling books in the world and guess whose in the list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_books

Lastly a tribute to Chinua Achebe by a black american magazine (essence).
http://madamenoire.com/268566/remebering-chinua-achebe-a-tribute-to-a-man-who-helped-shaped-african-narratives/
it's rare to see BA making any tribute to an African writer, author, whoever

What were you saying again?

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Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by eagleeye2: 11:12am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE:

No one can disrespect Senghor esp not a a person who majored in literature(esp Africa literature)
Are you this dull?
Where in all my post have I "disrespected" Senghor?
You said you where going to sleep, please do go and get som rest. There is no price to be given for the most f,oolish person in this thread.
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by OneNaira6: 11:15am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: simply quote my first two comments on this thread, that's all, you are blinded by your bigotry that's all.

One of the highest selling book, link? Novels or books because if you say books that means all kind of book and I say no anyway provide a link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_books

What were you saying again about links?

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Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Nobody: 11:16am On May 26, 2013
She is Anglophone and older than me undecided undecided undecided Cameroon have two educational system. And you guessed right I m a product of francophone education.

Lemme ask you something if Gej, David Cameron, Obama, or sonyinka die tomorrow what do you think will happen? So I find your articles pointless.
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by vanbonattel: 11:18am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: It is simple make your ranking: Africa top 10 authors, we will see how biased and poorly educated you are, I bet you don't even know more than 10authors talk less about non Nigerian authors. Your 200M people are lying u. What is great in Nigeria is not automatically great somewhere else.

How many artists(non nigerian do you know)
Authors
Professors
Etc....
Tomorrow you will tell me that x inventors in Nigeria is the greatest of the whole Africa,lmao.

Nigeria rules Africa even with their historic bad leaders, when they get their acts right you will need a Nigerian to surety you before you get a visa to anywhere.
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Nobody: 11:20am On May 26, 2013
One_Naira:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_books

What were you saying again about links?
did you bother read what you posted? Books are divided in categories and yet even in his category his book is not at the top undecided so we can conclude that one more time your claims were bogus, his book is No way the best selling books like you claimed
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by vanbonattel: 11:21am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: She is Anglophone and older than me undecided undecided undecided Cameroon have two educational system. And you guessed right I m a product of francophone education.

Lemme ask you something if Gej, David Cameron, Obama, or sonyinka die tomorrow what do you think will happen? So I find your articles pointless.

You came out of the worst educational system, I am hating french because of you alone. Your only saving grace is because you can write in English, if not you will be jumping in the jungles of Panya.

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Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by vanbonattel: 11:22am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: did you bother read what you posted? Books are divided in categories and yet even in his category his book is not at the top undecided so we can conclude that one more time your claims were bogus, his book is No way the best selling books like you claimed

Who is the best selling author in Cameroun?
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by OneNaira6: 11:27am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: She is Anglophone and older than me undecided undecided undecided Cameroon have two educational system. And you guessed right I m a product of francophone education.

Lemme ask you something if Gej, David Cameron, Obama, or sonyinka die tomorrow what do you think will happen? So I find your articles pointless.

People die, celebrities die every f2king day and if the said person is unpopular or as you mentioned "local champion", he or she would not receive tribute from multiple nations neither would they include a title or praise post for the said person's behalf. .

GEJ is though a president but he is an unpopular character to the world and if he pass away today (I pray to God that does not happen), newspaper authors would right about him but none would make a tribute on his behalf. The same goes for David Cameron and Soyinka. The only person on your list that would affect the entire world the same way Achebe did when he passed is Obama.

I didn't even extend out of Africa, excluding black americans, if I included non-Africans you'll be eating your words some more right now.

By the way: stick to one story. Stop changing your post each time people get links to defeats it. You went from Chinua Achebe is not known in Cameroon, neither is his book read in Cameroon to a new story about him being popular to Anglophone of Cameroon and unpopular to francophone. WTF? Dude give it up already. You came into a fight clueless, best bow out when you can't defend to what you say. stop changing your stanch around. Abeg I'm sleeping, you are obviously tired too so go to bed.
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by OneNaira6: 11:30am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: did you bother read what you posted? Books are divided in categories and yet even in his category his book is not at the top undecided so we can conclude that one more time your claims were bogus, his book is No way the best selling books like you claimed

Did you just read your post. I said one of the best selling books in the world. The list mentioned specifically as the LIST OF BEST SELLING BOOKS IN THE WORLD. Where did I mention he is the top seller, nigg@ learn the term "ONE OF THE". By the way, there are thousand even millions of books coming out yearly and for your book to be listed as one of the best selling out of the millions of books is not an easy task.

Bow out if you are clueless to defend yourself.
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Nobody: 11:34am On May 26, 2013
One_Naira:

People die, celebrities die every f2king day and if the said person is unpopular or as you mentioned "local champion", he or she would not receive tribute from multiple nations neither would they include a title or praise post for the said person's behalf. .

GEJ is though a president but he is an unpopular character to the world and if he pass away today (I pray to God that does not happen), newspaper authors would right about him but none would make a tribute on his behalf. The same goes for David Cameron and Soyinka. The only person on your list that would affect the entire world the same way Achebe did when he passed is Obama.

I didn't even extend out of Africa, excluding black americans, if I included non-Africans you'll be eating your words some more right now.

By the way: stick to one story. Stop changing your post each time people get links to defeats it. You went from Chinua Achebe is not known in Cameroon, neither is his book read in Cameroon to a new story about him being popular to Anglophone of Cameroon and unpopular to francophone. WTF? Dude give it up already. You came into a fight clueless, best bow out when you can't defend to what you say. stop changing your stanch around. Abeg I'm sleeping, you are obviously tired too so go to bed.

Not my fault if you can't read. Never said he is popular among Anglophone , what I said the lady is Anglophone and has more chance to have read achebe since we don't have much Anglophone authors in Cameroon I mean successful ones, it is a known fact that Cameroon is a French dominated country so I don't know which story I'm trying to twist or change, I don't know for you in Nigeria but here we update our programs so it is very difficult for different generations to study the same thing simple as that.....again I'm waiting for the francophone he influenced?

You are a bigot this is how I see it that's all you keep beating around the Bush ..copying and pasting useless articles ...which don't prove anything..tell us how Achebe is the father of Africa literature on which basis? Period failure to do that shows that you are the clueless here
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Nobody: 11:36am On May 26, 2013
One_Naira:

Did you just read your post. I said one of the best selling books in the world. The list mentioned specifically as the LIST OF BEST SELLING BOOKS IN THE WORLD. Where did I mention he is the top seller, nigg@ learn the term "ONE OF THE". By the way, there are thousand even millions of books coming out yearly and for your book to be listed as one of the best selling out of the millions of books is not an easy task.

Bow out if you are clueless to defend yourself.
one of the smh more than 100 come before him if that's the case even someone with 30.000copies sold is one of the best
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by vanbonattel: 11:38am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE:

Not my fault if you can't read. Never said he is popular among Anglophone , what I said the lady is Anglophone and has more chance to have read achebe since we don't have much Anglophone authors in Cameroon I mean successful ones, it is a known fact that Cameroon is a French dominated country so I don't know which story I'm trying to twist or change, I don't know for you in Nigeria but here we update our programs so it is very difficult for different generations to study the same thing simple as that.....again I'm waiting for the francophone he influenced?

You are a bigot this is how I see it that's all you keep beating around the Bush ..copying and pasting useless articles ...which don't prove anything..tell us how Achebe is the father of Africa literature on which basis? Period failure to do that shows that you are the clueless here

On a serious personal note, see a doctor. Your rubbish is getting out of hand, we dont want to read that you ran out without your clothes on. Achebe is the best, and will remain so for a very long time, swallow that fact.
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Nobody: 11:42am On May 26, 2013
van bonattel:

You for learn to yarn for German, Turkish and Russian language also, the fact that you learnt 3 languages and turned out to be a nonentity is very pathetic. Cameroun graduates are way lower in everything compared to their Nigerian counterparts. This is the same reason you show your face here to learn from the Nigerians through the wisdom we got from giants like Achebe.

Challemagne? he must be a bicycle repairer?
how may cameroonian are here lol....whatever dude that's why your graduates complain about ,cleaning toilets and driving cabs in Canada right? Blah blah are way lower in everything ,make I hear.


Here’s an example of African innovation at its finest.

Arthur Zang, a 24 year-old Cameroonian engineer, has invented the Cardiopad, a touch screen medical tablet that enables heart examinations such as the electrocardiogram (ECG) to be performed at remote, rural locations while the results of the test are transferred wirelessly to specialists who can interpret them. The device spares African patients living in remote areas the trouble of having to travel to urban centers to seek medical examinations.

According to Zang, the Cardiopad is “the first fully touch screen medical tablet made in Cameroon and in Africa.” He believes it is an invention that could save numerous human lives, and says the reliability of the pad device is as high as 97.5%. Zang says he invented the device in order to facilitate the treatment of patients with heart disease across Cameroon and the rest of Africa. So far, several medical tests have been carried out with the Cardiopad which have been validated by the Cameroonian scientific community.

According to Radio Netherlands,which broke the story of the Cardiopad earlier

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mfonobongnsehe/2012/02/09/young-african-invents-touch-screen-medical-tablet/

This is what our graduates produce.



Ps: charllemagne is the father of what you call school today and he's a French

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Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Nobody: 11:45am On May 26, 2013
van bonattel:

On a serious personal note, see a doctor. Your rubbish is getting out of hand, we dont want to read that you ran out without your clothes on. Achebe is the best, and will remain so for a very long time, swallow that fact.
on an unbiased note , Achebe is a local champion. Can you imagine in my culture and value class no one had heard about him..and our lecturer was Nigerian(Igbo) I guess that's why he recommended us the book? undecided undecided
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by vanbonattel: 11:47am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: how may cameroonian are here lol....whatever dude that's why your graduates complain about ,cleaning toilets and driving cabs in Canada right? Blah blah are way lower in everything ,make I hear.


Here’s an example of African innovation at its finest.

Arthur Zang, a 24 year-old Cameroonian engineer, has invented the Cardiopad, a touch screen medical tablet that enables heart examinations such as the electrocardiogram (ECG) to be performed at remote, rural locations while the results of the test are transferred wirelessly to specialists who can interpret them. The device spares African patients living in remote areas the trouble of having to travel to urban centers to seek medical examinations.

According to Zang, the Cardiopad is “the first fully touch screen medical tablet made in Cameroon and in Africa.” He believes it is an invention that could save numerous human lives, and says the reliability of the pad device is as high as 97.5%. Zang says he invented the device in order to facilitate the treatment of patients with heart disease across Cameroon and the rest of Africa. So far, several medical tests have been carried out with the Cardiopad which have been validated by the Cameroonian scientific community.

According to Radio Netherlands,which broke the story of the Cardiopad earlier

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mfonobongnsehe/2012/02/09/young-african-invents-touch-screen-medical-tablet/

This is what our graduates produce.



Ps: charllemagne is the father of what you call school today and he's a French



How come its radio Netherlands that broke the story of Zang and not radio Yaounde? And challemagma or wharever is French and not Camerounian, please explain yourself?
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Nobody: 11:50am On May 26, 2013
van bonattel:

How come its radio Netherlands that broke the story of Zang and not radio Yaounde? And challemagma or wharever is French and not Camerounian, please explain yourself?
you called the francophone system the worst in the world im just pointing out that they francophone(French) created what you call school today.."charllemagne is the father of school"

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