Pygru:
You mean a rat

na wa ooh....

that part also made me to laugh..kun was really annoyed o.

I think we've all misinterpreted what the op is trying to say. Firstly, he never said hell fire or the lake of fire doesn't exist. His main point is that, the lake of fire is a future event not something that is happening already. The dead are still in their grave (return to dust from where they were formed). It is till the 2nd coming of Christ that the dead in Christ will resurrect to reign with Christ. After which judgment for the devil and his followers will be consumed in the lake of fire which is the 2nd death. Hence why all these stories of the dead already in hell fire when the 2nd coming of Christ have not occurred.