Mr anony:
This is the challenge i will take: I will present a verse supporting each of my statements 1-10 at which point 11 would be your inevitable conclusion. Do you agree?


By the way in other news, let me ask you a question. Does the bible teach us to worship Jesus Christ? A simple yes or no will do.

Just a verse you mean??.....oya go ahead......

And worshipping Jesus christ.....Oh yes.....

May I ask you....what does worship mean??.....

Mr anony: You'll have to show where you found the bolded in scripture.

It is common knowledge and besides, it doesn't have to be mentioned in scriptures before we agree that it is correct. The gestation period for dogs is 9 weeks, do we have to find it in the scriptures before we agree that it is correct? "GOD"is just a title shikena.

Secondly statement 11 is the inevitable conclusion you get to if all preceding 10 statements are true. wouldn't you agree?

No, I don't agree since "God" is just a title.

Uhm can't post my phone number here mate. Have you still got my email addy?

Lost that too. The email I used to register on nairaland was just a temporary one, it doesn't store messages {or addresses} for long.

ijawkid:

Just a verse you mean??.....oya go ahead......

And worshipping Jesus christ.....Oh yes.....

May I ask you....what does worship mean??.....

By worship I mean: The reverent love and ardent devotion and adoration accorded a to a deity. This love is expressed by ceremonies, prayers, songs of praise and other religious activities towards this person.
So by worshiping Christ you have agreed that the bible tells you to. Sing to Him, pray to Him, bow and kneel before Him, live your life in devotion to Him, have ceremonies in His honor e.t.c. That's good to know.

^^^

Two questions :

1. Who asked all his angels to bow before Jesus
2. Who exalted Jesus

frosbel: ^^^

Two questions :

1. Who asked all his angels to bow before Jesus
2. Who exalted Jesus

Who was Jesus before Jesus?
John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Image123:
Who was Jesus before Jesus?
John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Uhmmm, answer my questions first, stop drifting to another scripture.

frosbel:


Uhmmm, answer my questions first, stop drifting to another scripture.

my question answers your question, and is chronologically older than yours.

Image123:
my question answers your question, and is chronologically older than yours.

Not the mark of a good student.

Did Jesus exalt Jesus , did Jesus ask his own angels to bow before him, I still don't get your logic.

frosbel:

Not the mark of a good student.

Did Jesus exalt Jesus , did Jesus ask his own angels to bow before him, I still don't get your logic.

answer the question rabbi.

Image123:
answer the question rabbi.

stick to your tithes , you do better with that one.

inspiredbyGOD:.:
It is common knowledge and besides, it doesn't have to be mentioned in scriptures before we agree that it is correct. The gestation period for dogs is 9 weeks, do we have to find it in the scriptures before we agree that it is correct? "GOD"is just a title shikena.

Short story: You have no biblical evidence

No, I don't agree since "God" is just a title.

Then you are not ready for serious discourse

Lost that too. The email I used to register on nairaland was just a temporary one, it doesn't store messages {or addresses} for long.

Hmm, too bad. You can send me a private message via Nairaland though

frosbel: ^^^

Two questions :

1. Who asked all his angels to bow before Jesus
2. Who exalted Jesus

Answers to 1&2 is the Father: after Christ had given up His God privileges and become man, the father exalted Him back to His place.
By the way, I hope you do realize that you have just conceded that Jesus Christ was worshiped by the angels.

^^
@Anony

"Holy spirit is a person" you say.

So, when the bible says you will be given the holyspirit or you will receive the holy spirit, it is a person that you will be given abi ?

Or, it is a person you will receive abi ?

What a delusion !

truthislight: ^^
@Anony

"Holy spirit is a person" you say.

So, when the bible says you will be given the holyspirit or you will receive the holy spirit, it is a person that you will be given abi ?

Or, it is a person you will receive abi ?

What a delusion !

Perfectly said.

They forget that to receive the Spirit is to receive Power from GOD.

"And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high." - Luke 24:49

Mr anony:
Answers to 1&2 is the Father: after Christ had given up His God privileges and become man, the father exalted Him back to His place.
By the way, I hope you do realize that you have just conceded that Jesus Christ was worshiped by the angels.

So the Father asked exalted Jesus, good.

But why did Jesus need to be exalted if he was already exalted in the past tense, I mean what was the purpose of exalting an exalted being, does this not sound rather like play acting ?

Finally, God alone is to be worshiped , so said Jesus, God however requires that we pay obeisance to his Son and be submitted to him as the Head of the Church.

frosbel:



Finally, God alone is to be worshiped , so said Jesus, God however requires that we pay obeisance to his Son and be submitted to him as the Head of the Church.

You guys have been unable to tell us how the God of the hebrews( Yahweh) was worshiped. When the three Hebrew children refused to bow down and worship the image which Nebuchadnezzar had set up was it obeisance?

frosbel:

So the Father asked exalted Jesus, good.

But why did Jesus need to be exalted if he was already exalted in the past tense, I mean what was the purpose of exalting an exalted being, does this not sound rather like play acting ?

No it isn't play acting. Christ humbled Himself, gave up His God privileges and took the form of man. Then when He had finished His work on earth, God the Father exalted Him back to the position He had before He came to earth. Read Philippians 2:5-10

Finally, God alone is to be worshiped , so said Jesus, God however requires that we pay obeisance to his Son and be submitted to him as the Head of the Church.

This is interesting: Now here's what I want to ask you: Where do you draw the line between worship and obeisance? What is the difference?
Once you tell me, we will check to see if Jesus was worshiped or paid obeisance to.

truthislight: ^^
@Anony

"Holy spirit is a person" you say.

So, when the bible says you will be given the holyspirit or you will receive the holy spirit, it is a person that you will be given abi ?

Or, it is a person you will receive abi ?

What a delusion !

Yes it is a person you receive when you receive the Holy Spirit. . . .in the same way you receive a person when you receive Christ.

Mr anony:
Short story: You have no biblical evidence

If you want to put it that way. Doesn't mean it is a lie though.

Then you are not ready for serious discourse

Okay, let's say I agree with you and you are correct. How do you explain the glaring similarities between the commonly accepted Christian doctrine of trinity and the pagan conceptions that came before it?

Hmm, too bad. You can send me a private message via Nairaland though

Will do that bros.

inspiredbyGOD:.:
If you want to put it that way. Doesn't mean it is a lie though.

You'll have to show from scripture in order to make that claim.

Okay, let's say I agree with you and you are correct. How do you explain the glaring similarities between the commonly accepted Christian doctrine of trinity and the pagan conceptions that came before it?

I don't see how this relates to a biblical discussion about Trinity. You are always free to start another thread to discuss these "similarities"

Will do that bros.

ok cool

Mr anony:
You'll have to show from scripture in order to make that claim.

I am the son of my father. Oh! Wait, I guess I'll have to validate this truth with the scriptures too.

I don't see how this relates to a biblical discussion about Trinity. You are always free to start another thread to discuss these "similarities"

There is no biblical discussion about trinity because the trinity isn't biblical, it is a pagan concept .

inspiredbyGOD:.:
I am the son of my father. Oh! Wait, I guess I'll have to validate this truth with the scriptures too.

This example is unrelated to the discussion we are having.

There is no biblical discussion about trinity because the trinity isn't biblical, it is a pagan concept .

Lol, you haven't been paying attention to your bible then. I am also sure that if I asked you to provide an example of pagan trinity where they believe in one tripersonal God, you won't.

btw, I've sent you my number, give me a buzz sometime

Mr anony:
Yes it is a person you receive when you receive the Holy Spirit. . . .in the same way you receive a person when you receive Christ.

you dont receive the holy spirit the way you receive christ.
This "person" is as a breeze and fire.

Receiving christ means receiving christ teachings and way of life.

But for this "person"(holyspirit) you receive one, Bidam receive one, Ihedinobi receives one, Goshen Receives one, Oladegbu receives one, Alexo takes "him" as a gift and the rest Trinitarian takes this person.

How many person are they ?

What a person !

Ok, you Anony shears this one person with Bidam, Ihedinobi shears some also with Oladegbu takes some of this person Goshen360 takes his part of this person, and Joagbaje receives some, Alexo takes some as a gift and all other Trinitarian collects this person, . And this person still, remains as a complete person and not many ?

Smh.

Religion can really make an otherwise intelligent person act and behaves stupidly

Mr anony:
This example is unrelated to the discussion we are having.

You get my point.

Lol, you haven't been paying attention to your bible then. I am also sure that if I asked you to provide an example of pagan trinity where they believe in one tripersonal God, you won't.

The Egyptian pair of Osiris, Isis and Horus is just one out of many examples of pagan conceptions of trinity.

btw, I've sent you my number, give me a buzz sometime

Haven't seen it yet. {kindly resend it to chinedudaniel7@gmail.com}

inspiredbyGOD:.:
You get my point.

I don't know what point you think I got.

The Egyptian pair of Osiris, Isis and Horus is just one out of many examples of pagan conceptions of trinity.

Lol, seriously? You are welcome to open a thread and then we can discuss your "egyptian trinity"

Haven't seen it yet. {kindly resend it to chinedudaniel7@gmail.com}

ok, will do.

truthislight:

you dont receive the holy spirit the way you receive christ.
This "person" is as a breeze and fire.

Receiving christ means receiving christ teachings and way of life.

But for this "person"(holyspirit) you receive one, Bidam receive one, Ihedinobi receives one, Goshen Receives one, Oladegbu receives one, Alexo takes "him" as a gift and the rest Trinitarian takes this person.

How many person are they ?

What a person !

Ok, you Anony shears this one person with Bidam, Ihedinobi shears some also with Oladegbu takes some of this person Goshen360 takes his part of this person, and Joagbaje receives some, Alexo takes some as a gift and all other Trinitarian collects this person, . And this person still, remains as a complete person and not many ?

Smh.

Religion can really make an otherwise intelligent person act and behaves stupidly

I don't know what you are biting yourself for. The bible also says that Christ will dwell in every one of us who receives Him yet He is one Person.

^^^^


Quit dribbling yourself and dump this pagan philosophy of yours.

frosbel: ^^^^


Quit dribbling yourself and dump this pagan philosophy of yours.

My dear frosbel, you are yet to answer my question:

This is interesting: Now here's what I want to ask you: Where do you draw the line between worship and obeisance? What is the difference?
Once you tell me, we will check to see if Jesus was worshiped or paid obeisance to.


It is still waiting there for you whenever you choose to answer it.

Mr anony:
I don't know what point you think I got.

Some things don't need to be in the bible before they can be verified to be true.

Lol, seriously? You are welcome to open a thread and then we can discuss your "egyptian trinity"

Not gonna do that. The Christian concept of trinity
is confusing enough.

inspiredbyGOD:.:
Some things don't need to be in the bible before they can be verified to be true.

Claims like "God is just a title" really need scriptural back up

Not gonna do that. The Christian concept of trinity
is confusing enough.

Lol, as I said, you are not ready for a serious discussion

Mr anony:
My dear frosbel, you are yet to answer my question:

This is interesting: Now here's what I want to ask you: Where do you draw the line between worship and obeisance? What is the difference?
Once you tell me, we will check to see if Jesus was worshiped or paid obeisance to.


It is waiting here for you whenever you choose to answer it.

Unfortunately, frosb will ignore such questions that can help him until time 'covers' it, I wonder how his conscience copes.

Mr anony:
Claims like "God is just a title" really need scriptural back up

really? What does the word "god" mean?

Lol, as I said, you are not ready for a serious discussion

Am I not? But wait, is a belief in the trinity a prerequisite for salvation?