frosbel:


Brother, as I have often said, I forgive your Apostolic faith church for almost killing me by suggesting that the taking of medicine is a sin. I can tell you how many people have died because of this sort of fanaticism being propagated by your church.


- When your church was preaching this lie, were they led by the Holy Spirit ?

- Is it the Holy Spirit that has led your pastors to be called reverend ?

- Is it the Holy Spirit that has led your leadership top insist that members only marry within the church ?

Let me tell you something you do not know, Jesus Christ did not come down to set rules and regulations, he came to show us the father and set us free from the bondage of Pharisees like you and the likes.

frosbel:

illiteracy at it's peak .

Do you know that there are female trousers and male trousers ?

SMH.

Bidam: are you subscribing to your wife dressing in provocative outfits? the likes of okeyzz will look at her twice if he knows she is your wife.

stuhporh:

You like to write i guess

"It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery." - [b]Galatians 5:1

"You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings." - 1 Corinthians 7:23[/b]
Sir, you know not the meanings of the bible. you read the bible as the regular man. what you quoted above as a deeper meaning. "Slavery" in the verse means sin. In other words. do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of sin. You are not ripe enough. go back to your bible and read with holy spirit inspiration.

frosbel: [size=14pt]For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery - Galatians 5:1[/size]

frosbel:

I don't care what was regarded as SIN in the 70s and 80s, what I care about is what the word of GOD says is SIN.

Indeed, I have met many so called Holy people who dress like angels but they have the temper of a volcano, they cheat, commit fraud, steal, gossip etc and cover all their wretchedness with good dress as dictated to them by their cult.

This is the word of GOD to such people :

"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean." - Matthew 23:27

Did you see that ? Jesus said outside they look all nice and beautiful with their priestly garments covering from head to toe, but yet they were the most wicked and vile of all men.

Let me repeat, work on your heart, if your heart is with GOD it will show in your outward conduct.

I give you an example nearer to home. There is a guy here who belongs to a so called Holy Holy church where outward dress has to be almost angelic, yet he has heaped abuse on a lot of people on this forum including me , using expletives that Jesus will never condone.

Go figure.

trolling: lol i just didnt wanna respond to that fool,,and yes i said fool, love your response

Isiboy:

i knew u were going 2 counter dats y i quoted titus 3:9.

@ slendyMEE
be wise. Is it d attachment dat makes ur hair humble?

Dikwons: Wearing trousers is not a sin. The bible really did say women should not wear what partains to a man and vice-versa, so do not put on a man's clothing e.g Mary should not wear James cloth.

As for make-up, it all depends on ur intent. Make up is supposed to be worn to look good just as you use body cream for supple skin, hair cream for radiant hair etc.

Chiilove:

since putin on trousers by ladies is not a sin: men should also wear skirts n blouses, tie two wrappers on their waist too! Madness! There is notin like ladies' or men's trousers, trousers na trousers! No little or big sin, Sin is sin no matter who commits it. Rom 2:1 says "thou art inexcusable...". Do or say wat ever u like now, on dat day, God 'll hav no time for ur excuses.

frosbel: ^^

Trouser is not a MAN's dress, do you know that MEN wore dresses in the old days called garments, gowns etc, even the Scottish today wear skirts.

As far as the trouse is not tight to be too revealing, that's fine, but this is my opinion.

SpicyMimi: Thanks a lot, i really do appreciate.

Concerning the issue of wearing Trousers, its written in the bible that a Male shall not wear a woman's cloak neither should a Female wear a Man's cloak.


Really i just want to please God, not Men....bt sometimes i feel guilty when i wear Make-ups, bt when its just little....i dont feel any guilt.

ASALIOUS: frosbel is a degenerate and is doing the work of a backslider at the peak. He had once laid his hands on the plough and had looked back. Jesus still loves you brother, more than I do. Forget about you almost died. Didn't people die even after being taken out of the country for better treatment. U called some churches cult abused their structures and pastors. I can't fight for God anyway. U had a test and u failed. No wonder u r now what u r. Haven't you heard that people got healed (and still get healed) after being prayed for. Please read James 5:14. We believe it and it is working for us. U didn't believe it and neither was ur uncle and it didn't work for you. Now u blame, accuse and abuse the church.

Do you remember what happened to Samson. He defiled God's instruction and he paid for it with his life. The instruction was and is still very explicit; Get ye away from among them, don't mix with them, don't give and don't be given in marriage. This same instruction Abraham followed. He told Eliaza: Go find a wife for my son from among my brethren.

I am sure you know the incidents. So why do you query the church's stand on marriage? Or is knowing much affecting you now?

Isiboy:

i knew u were going 2 counter dats y i quoted titus 3:9.

@ slendyMEE
be wise. Is it d attachment dat makes ur hair humble?

A balance for beauty

But while we must be careful of having any appearance of evil, and take precautions against it by modest dressing, the Bible is not against beauty and good appearance. Indeed, this is praised in Scripture. We know this because various women are complimented on their outward appearance, such as Rebekah, Rachel and Esther, who were described as very beautiful. The cultivation of good appearance is approved of, but this must be practised with maturity and modesty in the use of ­clothing.
Furthermore, the Bible is not against the human body. Nor is it against intimate affections, but these are only to be enjoyed within the marriage covenant. In Proverbs 5.19, the son is advised to be wholly satisfied with bodily intimacy with his own wife.

Unfortunately, much of the clothing marketed today is gravely inconsistent with the principles of modesty and bodily appreciation within marriage alone. Then should there not be rules and regulations provided by the church as to what Christians should wear? Unfortunately, this would not be easy to implement, for it could lead to legalism. Besides, in this New Testament age, believers have liberty to be responsive to their own conscience. Nevertheless, Christians can abuse that liberty, leading themselves into licentious (morally unrestrained) living.

http://www.metropolitantabernacle.org/Sword-And-Trowel/Evangelical-Magazine-Sword-and-Trowel-Articles/Principles-in-Christian-Dressing

SpicyMimi:

Have been going tru all the comments, and I fnd each nd every comment here interesting and useful.

SpicyMimi:

I didn't create this thread to cause any fuss amng Christians! I just wanted to know the Truth. I wudnt want anyone to insult another based on his or her own beliefs, and I hope the arguments here won't cause one person to dislike another based on his or her own opinion.

SpicyMimi:

This is my take on this...I will go with this quote-
' It is better to live a life like there is God, and die to find out there isn't, than live a life like there is No God and die to find out that there is One'

SpicyMimi:

But then again I ve so many questions I really want answers to:
1. Talking abt Chemicals....are they not frm plants?
Am nt a science student so I ve no idea where chemicals come from, bt one thing am sure of is that...everythn we use here comes frm the Ground! so y is it bad for us to use creams, perfumes( I don't tink usn perfume is a sin anyway), etc

"What? Do you know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which you have of God, and you are not your own? For you are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's"

SpicyMimi:

2. I just realized that, some churches are against takn of drugs? Plz is this true? And why? What abt herbal drugs?
Because, Heaven helps those who help themselves.

3. What about watching T.V,movies, listening to Love songs? Even solomon composed love songs! So I really need ur opinions on these...

Thanks soooo mucchhh!!!
God bless you all!

[quote author=OLAADEGBU]

I will rather advice you to spend more time studying the Bible especially the gospel of John to know more about our Lord and Saviour. Spend time with Him in prayers. Prayerfully join a bible believing church where you will learn the principles of growth in this your new found Christian faith; and then begin to share your faith with your loved ones.

The earlier you know that some folks are here to contaminate your faith the better.

That means that it is better to do without things that you are not sure will hinder your making heaven than to keeping them only to find out that they do matter in the end.

(1 Cor. 6:19-20).

Coming under the loving Lordship of our Lord Jesus Christ means that we have come to the end of our "rights" as well as our "wrongs". As Larry Tomczak puts it, "it means the end of life on our own terms".

If you where to be a landlady who put her mansion out to let, would you be happy if your tenants painted your house the way they liked?

Who said heaven helps those who helps themselves? You can now see that the seed frosbel sowed into your heart is now beginning germinate and if care is not taken you will begin to talk about non essentials that divides the church. No one except frosbel and his cohorts have been poisoning your mind about "churches" this they do to discourage you from joining any bible believing church and thereby dying off spiritually.

SpicyMimi: Have been going tru all the comments, and I fnd each nd every comment here interesting and useful.

I didn't create this thread to cause any fuss amng Christians! I just wanted to know the Truth. I wudnt want anyone to insult another based on his or her own beliefs, and I hope the arguments here won't cause one person to dislike another based on his or her own opinion.

This is my take on this...I will go with this quote-
' It is better to live a life like there is God, and die to find out there isn't, than live a life like there is No God and die to find out that there is One'

But then again I ve so many questions I really want answers to:
1. Talking abt Chemicals....are they not frm plants?
Am nt a science student so I ve no idea where chemicals come from, bt one thing am sure of is that...everythn we use here comes frm the Ground! so y is it bad for us to use creams, perfumes( I don't tink usn perfume is a sin anyway), etc

2. I just realized that, some churches are against takn of drugs? Plz is this true? And why? What abt herbal drugs?
Because, Heaven helps those who help themselves.

3. What about watching T.V,movies, listening to Love songs? Even solomon composed love songs! So I really need ur opinions on these...

Thanks soooo mucchhh!!!
God bless you all!

SpicyMimi: Have been going tru all the comments, and I fnd each nd every comment here interesting and useful.

I didn't create this thread to cause any fuss amng Christians! I just wanted to know the Truth. I wudnt want anyone to insult another based on his or her own beliefs, and I hope the arguments here won't cause one person to dislike another based on his or her own opinion.

This is my take on this...I will go with this quote-
' It is better to live a life like there is God, and die to find out there isn't, than live a life like there is No God and die to find out that there is One'

But then again I ve so many questions I really want answers to:
1. Talking abt Chemicals....are they not frm plants?
Am nt a science student so I ve no idea where chemicals come from, bt one thing am sure of is that...everythn we use here comes frm the Ground! so y is it bad for us to use creams, perfumes( I don't tink usn perfume is a sin anyway), etc
Definitely using cream and perfume is not a sine but Bible teaches moderation in everything we do, if you now use cream that will change your natural black skin to white skin over night, even medical science will tell you is not good, or you now empty a can/bottle of perfume on your cloth that anywhere you walk in, people must turn around in dismay or admiration to notice who is coming with such heavy scent in the air, is not good then.

2. I just realized that, some churches are against takn of drugs? Plz is this true? And why? What abt herbal drugs? Because, Heaven helps those who help themselves.
Taking drugs is not sin, neither not-taking drugs a sin. If a church decides they will not be taking drugs, it's not a sin to them

3. What about watching T.V,movies, listening to Love songs? Even solomon composed love songs! So I really need ur opinions on these...
Watching good programs on T.V is not bad. Just don't watch something that will have negative effect on your behaviour or inspire negative thoughts in you. Listening to real love songs is not bad but unfortunately most of them are lust songs, so don't listen to them

Thanks soooo mucchhh!!!
God bless you all!

alexleo:

Frosbel is a fraud and now that his fraud has been exposed, he is grabbing anything to save himself the shame. The issue he mentioned about being sick and not allowed to take medication, I ask, those who take medication dont they die? Churches who are not against taking medication are people not dying there? The church he is accusing of, records low death rate than the ones that dont bother. Both he that takes medication and he that does not are all healed by God. What the church preaches is that you trust God for your healing and people are being healed. They dont condemn hospital now. Even before it was overzealous members that took things too far but frosbel in his dubious nature is making people to believe that its the entire church.

My dear just pray and yield yourself to the Holy Spirit to guide you properly. Frosbel cannot save you on the judgment day if at the end of the day you fall for his deceits. Heaven is much more important than anything you can think of in this life.

frosbel:

I don't think you have the moral authority sir to comment.

If your church has been wrong on so many other issues, why can't they be wrong on other matters.


What about the use of titles such as reverend, what about marrying only within the church, how about forcing workers to have a clean shave, etc

Let others talk please.

alexleo:

And what moral authority do you have to speak being a dubious man who is here deceiving people? Keep dealing with the shame of being a loser. See how everybody is warning you to desist from your false teachings and deceits and you talk about authority. Carry your pride and get out of my way. You want us to bow to your false teachings and condemn whatever you condemn in our church because in your pride you feel you are perfect and you know it all. Get out with your pride. We don't care about it.

echivee: Good job! You have given clear Biblical insights that are sufficient to address the concerns of many on this topic. I have now understood better. Thanks!

Chiilove: My sister don't be decieved by any one. If u read ur bible well, u wil get to discover that the first and only woman that applied make up in the bible was Jezeebel, in 2Kings 9:30b "...she painted her eyelid and fixed her hair...". Jezeebel was alwas opposin the prophets, go and read her account. The bible says "anyone who is not for me is against me". Make-up is originated from the pit of hell to destroy souls to hell. My dear, Jesus himself told me to stop plaitin wool, attachment. It has hindered many ladies heaven. God told me this mornin while i was readin my bible, that, he is tired of people troopin to hell. He opend my eyes and i saw ladies, in trousers, weave-on, make-ups in hell. Oh! It's terrible. My dear, as far as heaven is concernd, MINORITY carries the vote! If u are for Christ, be for Christ! No property of the devil shud be found in u. 1Cor10:21. "u can not drink from the Lord's table and the devil's at same time..". Read ur bible and obey God's commands. No pastor can save u but Christ. As for the guy askin where God spoke against trousers in the bible: Deut. 5:22 says "don't wear that which patterneth to a man". Culture can't save us but obeydience to God's commands can.. Heave is more serious than we think. If God can sacrifice and forsake Jesus on the cross wen he was filled wit our sins('cos God's eyes are too holy to behold sin)to forgive us, u can imagine how difficult it is 2 make heaven. But, wit the holy spirit, it's simple. SISTER, IF YOU HEAR FROM GOD, ENQUIRE FR0M HIM DIRECT. Don't ask human beins 'cos they are not the one to judge u on that white thrown judgement day. Men wil mislead u if u keep askn them. Make Jesus ur perfect example. Matt 5:48. God bles u.