Somorin#1:


Most excellent that you have experience on this.

Can I assume that you'll be offering your services to this victim then?

dom:

You seem to be particularly interested in my offering my services to her. Well, firstly, "ambulance chasing" is not permitted under the Rules of Professional Conduct in Nigeria. The client has to seek for legal services herself, and not the other way round. (unlike in the United states and some continental jurisdictions) Secondly, I have long left the bar. I'm presently on the lower bench and so cannot ethically represent her or any one for that matter. But suffice it to say that if the errant officer is arraigned before me I will throw the book at him and visit him with the full weight of the law.

Tonyblinky: U get luck say na only spine u break,why on earth would u argue wit ur camp commandant?height of indiscipline,being a serving corper and went thru camping activities,its ovbious she is a mouthy person.sorry sha but it should serve as a lesson to others

KARMA is a Bi.atch!

Believe me, ONE DAY, in the not too distant future... YOU will remember the words you wrote here.
YOU have just offered a PRAYER for yourself.

YOU or somebody very dear to you will experience this sort of "Horror" or a worse form of it!

Then you will "feel it"...... as this Lady and her parents .....(and every other normal humanbeing)... are feeling it right now.

PLS KEEP IT UP. IT CALLED "FREEDOM" OF SPEECH......no matter how stewpid and silly that speech is.

ablyguy:

My brother I mean every word. You don't go into somebody's house and challenge the person for a fight. Whatever happens to you in there is justified. You were angry because I didn't call the commandant an animal like most people here who know nothing about millitary codes and practices. If she were soldier she would probably have gooten a bullet in the leg. The streets is different from a millitary camp or base. Know that before engaging a soldier for a fight!!! Most especially a commandant of the said camp. Yes he went too far but I won't call him an animal...

nkenu: In order to make a good judgement, one must hear from both parties involved in a case. I dont think we should call for the HEAD of the NYSC camp commandant yet without giving him a fear hearing from his own side. All the same, i sympathise with Mercy on her predicaments. Wishing her a very speedy recovery!

ablyguy:

My brother I mean every word. You don't go into somebody's house and challenge the person for a fight. Whatever happens to you in there is justified. You were angry because I didn't call the commandant an animal like most people here who know nothing about millitary codes and practices. If she were soldier she would probably have gooten a bullet in the leg. The streets is different from a millitary camp or base. Know that before engaging a soldier for a fight!!! Most especially a commandant of the said camp. Yes he went too far but I won't call him an animal...

Tonyblinky: U get luck say na only spine u break,why on earth would u argue wit ur camp commandant?height of indiscipline,being a serving corper and went thru camping activities,its ovbious she is a mouthy person.sorry sha but it should serve as a lesson to others

Tonyblinky: U get luck say na only spine u break,why on earth would u argue wit ur camp commandant?height of indiscipline,being a serving corper and went thru camping activities,its ovbious she is a mouthy person.sorry sha but it should serve as a lesson to others

VolvoS60:

^^^^Sir,

Your reference to 'going into somebody's house to challenge him/her for a fight' as an analogy is inappropriate. The NYSC camp is not a military barracks. And even if it were, the soldier's conduct would still be inexcusable.

Sir, the commandant IS an animal. His conduct (if indeed this news story is true) shows him to be an animal through and through. The matter here has nothing to do with military codes and practices. The real issue here is a military that has institutionalized (for nearly half a century) a complete disregard among both the officer corps and the rank & file for ANYTHING remotely connected to civilians. This is the issue sir. Nothing else.

You say if the victim were a soldier she would probably have gotten a bullet in the leg. Fine. Your military friends can shoot themselves in the legs till nobody in the barracks can walk, but they should not bring that nonsense to the rest of us. We are not crazy.

Some posters have accused the victim of provocation and assigned half the blame to her. I cannot even bring myself to chide the victim, not even in the gentlest of terms. As I asked one of the other posters defending this nonsense by the NYSC commandant: Does the 'punishment' meted out to the victim fit the so-called 'crime'? Who among us has not had to relate with 'mouthy' women (and men!!)? Do we go round crushing their spines like lions in the savannah?

Some of us who are well adjusted individuals with a healthy sense of self are fed up with uniformed brutality. For 50 years the Nigerian army/navy/air force has behaved like an occupation force. And to what end? What have we gained?

South Korean military generals seized power in the last century and were determined to turn their country into an industrial powerhouse. As I'm sure you know, they succeeded. There are well known examples of how they simply blew up any steel plant that did not meet their strict standards for quality control. The Nigerian army on the other hand is better known for keeping unexploded military ordinance in open fields under the sun in a heavily built up urban area with no supervision. The negligence and incompetence was shocking (even by Nigerian standards) and it led to over 1000 fatalities when the inevitable happened. Over 1000 innocent people from all over Nigeria trying to earn a living in Lagos' harsh conditions - hardworking Nigerians determined to make something of themselves - and your army's stupidity cost them their lives.

Nigerian brasshats are a disgrace.

VolvoS60:

^^^^Sir,

Your reference to 'going into somebody's house to challenge him/her for a fight' as an analogy is inappropriate. The NYSC camp is not a military barracks. And even if it were, the soldier's conduct would still be inexcusable.

Sir, the commandant IS an animal. His conduct (if indeed this news story is true) shows him to be an animal through and through. The matter here has nothing to do with military codes and practices. The real issue here is a military that has institutionalized (for nearly half a century) a complete disregard among both the officer corps and the rank & file for ANYTHING remotely connected to civilians. This is the issue sir. Nothing else.

You say if the victim were a soldier she would probably have gotten a bullet in the leg. Fine. Your military friends can shoot themselves in the legs till nobody in the barracks can walk, but they should not bring that nonsense to the rest of us. We are not crazy.

Some posters have accused the victim of provocation and assigned half the blame to her. I cannot even bring myself to chide the victim, not even in the gentlest of terms. As I asked one of the other posters defending this nonsense by the NYSC commandant: Does the 'punishment' meted out to the victim fit the so-called 'crime'? Who among us has not had to relate with 'mouthy' women (and men!!)? Do we go round crushing their spines like lions in the savannah?

Some of us who are well adjusted individuals with a healthy sense of self are fed up with uniformed brutality. For 50 years the Nigerian army/navy/air force has behaved like an occupation force. And to what end? What have we gained?

South Korean military generals seized power in the last century and were determined to turn their country into an industrial powerhouse. As I'm sure you know, they succeeded. There are well known examples of how they simply blew up any steel plant that did not meet their strict standards for quality control. The Nigerian army on the other hand is better known for keeping unexploded military ordinance in open fields under the sun in a heavily built up urban area with no supervision. The negligence and incompetence was shocking (even by Nigerian standards) and it led to over 1000 fatalities when the inevitable happened. Over 1000 innocent people from all over Nigeria trying to earn a living in Lagos' harsh conditions - hardworking Nigerians determined to make something of themselves - and your army's stupidity cost them their lives.

Nigerian brasshats are a disgrace.

obi2012: No man should lay his hand on a woman under any circumstances.. He is lucky he tried the in nigeria, here in Yankee, he'd be done.. Power drunk fool

ablyguy:

Strange how lawless individuals want others to obey the law. The girl herself, did she obey any law? Didn't she know she was defenseless before challenging his command? This tirade is one of the reasons the soldiers behave the way they do. You get what you give. We know ourselves.

Btw, I'm not in support of what the man did. Neither am I in support of what the girl did. I just don't want to call the man an animal and I abhore people who act foolishly and then come out to play the 'victim' card...

dom:
i've not begrudged him the right to express his opinion, which as you know, is like an a55hole of which everyone has one.however, in expanding his intellectual horizon and enlightening him that a "whole captain of the nigerian army" isn't a god or deity I merely expressed my own opinion also. That a person is of the military doesnt give him a right to ride roughshod over unarmed civilians. Talk less of a lady. There's no justification for that whatsoever. to think that the assault was carried out - not by a rank and file rating - but by a commissioned officer who ought to know better is even more shameful&odious. 2 years ago my court registrar suffered a similar opprobrium in the hands of some jackboots. It only took a properly couched protest letter to the right authorities to get the errant officers remanded and substantial damages paid to her. The era of wanton military brutality is long gone. Anyone still worshipping them and glorifying their bestiality is merely a pusilanimous victim of mental masturbation.

Rhemmymatician:
Why? What is special about a woman. Are you not for equality again? (Pls notice I didn't cuss you o. Because I knw feminists are always quick to cuss)

Rhemmymatician: In hindsight the Captain was wrong. But, do you think he set out to injure her spine? You call him an animal, a brute. If you have seen/experienced the military in such 'controlled' hostile situation, you will know that first thing they do is rake the person down. Now he could have done that and she'dd probably get injured, or not. But its the norm to get the person on the ground, most often in anyway possible.
My point is he didn't set out to injure her spine. He wanted her on the ground, and unfortunately she got badly injured in the process.

And whatever happened to equality? Please you people should stop stressing the 'woman' factor here.

Will I say so if it were my sister or my mother? Yes I will. because the truth must be said. You wonder, why was she the one kicked to the ground? I'm an human being just like the captain you don't give me a mouthful in front of my subordinates and then I look at you, smile and move on. No sir.
If I was in that shoe, will I try to fight for my friends right? Definitely.
Will I take a garrulous path or a diplomatic one? Diplomatic
Will I respect that I'm talking to a senior officer? One that is likely older than I am? Of course yes.
Bottom line: if I was in her shoes I won't suffer the consequences she's suffering now.

That said, I wish her quick recovery

Rhemmymatician: In hindsight the Captain was wrong. But, do you think he set out to injure her spine? You call him an animal, a brute. If you have seen/experienced the military in such 'controlled' hostile situation, you will know that first thing they do is rake the person down. Now he could have done that and she'dd probably get injured, or not. But its the norm to get the person on the ground, most often in anyway possible.
My point is he didn't set out to injure her spine. He wanted her on the ground, and unfortunately she got badly injured in the process.

And whatever happened to equality? Please you people should stop stressing the 'woman' factor here.

Will I say so if it were my sister or my mother? Yes I will. because the truth must be said. You wonder, why was she the one kicked to the ground? I'm an human being just like the captain you don't give me a mouthful in front of my subordinates and then I look at you, smile and move on. No sir.
If I was in that shoe, will I try to fight for my friends right? Definitely.
Will I take a garrulous path or a diplomatic one? Diplomatic
Will I respect that I'm talking to a senior officer? One that is likely older than I am? Of course yes.
Bottom line: if I was in her shoes I won't suffer the consequences she's suffering now.

That said, I wish her quick recovery

ablyguy:

Strange how lawless individuals want others to obey the law. The girl herself, did she obey any law? Didn't she know she was defenseless before challenging his command? This tirade is one of the reasons the soldiers behave the way they do. You get what you give. We know ourselves.

Btw, I'm not in support of what the man did. Neither am I in support of what the girl did. I just don't want to call the man an animal and I abhore people who act foolishly and then come out to play the 'victim' card...

obi2012: Did your father not teach you not to raise your hands on a woman? Do you not know they are a weaker sex physically? Yes they are all for equality but does that mean you have to exert your physical strength on them? Maybe you dont have proper upbringing

Now we can all see why Nigeria is the way it is, look at most of the responses in this thread.. You are talking about a woman versus a man, a trained armed military man versus a civilian and you people are supporting the man for this act.

This is why our rights continually get violated, we cower in fear and constantly are brutalized by people we put in power. In other countries, the military is not feared but respected and admired, yet in Nigeria, the government, police and military people constantly violate our rights and we still cower in fear. How can a military man push a civilian woman and she questioned why she was pushed and you people say its her fault.

i was just on a flight into baltimore airport last week and a military C130 from iraq landed behind my flight. The announcement was made on the PA system that they had landed, see how the whole airport rushed to sing the national anthem and hug them and welcome them back for serving their country. Old people, kids and everyone that they never knew before rushing to welcome them back. When will we have national pride in our military and police? If we dont speak up, our military will never shape up.

In the US, you rarely see military people wear their uniforms unless they are on official assignment, you would never know they are military officers. In Nigeria, they use their uniforms to intimidate you. In Nigeria, the military goes somewhere on duty, all you hear about is how they raped women and beat up people.

The harassment has to stop at some point.

obi2012: Did your father not teach you not to raise your hands on a woman? Do you not know they are a weaker sex physically? Yes they are all for equality but does that mean you have to exert your physical strength on them? MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE PROPER UPBRINGING

Now we can all see why Nigeria is the way it is, look at most of the responses in this thread.. You are talking about a woman versus a man, a trained armed military man versus a civilian and you people are supporting the man for this act.

This is why our rights continually get violated, we cower in fear and constantly are brutalized by people we put in power. In other countries, the military is not feared but respected and admired, yet in Nigeria, the government, police and military people constantly violate our rights and we still cower in fear. How can a military man push a civilian woman and she questioned why she was pushed and you people say its her fault.

i was just on a flight into baltimore airport last week and a military C130 from iraq landed behind my flight. The announcement was made on the PA system that they had landed, see how the whole airport rushed to sing the national anthem and hug them and welcome them back for serving their country. Old people, kids and everyone that they never knew before rushing to welcome them back. When will we have national pride in our military and police? If we dont speak up, our military will never shape up.

In the US, you rarely see military people wear their uniforms unless they are on official assignment, you would never know they are military officers. In Nigeria, they use their uniforms to intimidate you. In Nigeria, the military goes somewhere on duty, all you hear about is how they raped women and beat up people.

The harassment has to stop at some point.

joewee87:

And you are playing the saint card, sitting on the fence...neither here nor there. I would like to ask you though...do you know the military rules and regulations and if yes could you please quote one that says if an officer of a lesser rank insults his superior the punishment is fatality? Now the issue is that she is not of the military and even if she were, physically assaulting her is not a punisment. I know a few rules back when i was in the man o war like when you are late for training you do 50 push-ups or you ride the bike or any other punishment that fits the situation (i don't ever recall being slapped or punched). Her offense was talking back at her superior which to me is a minor offense that the right punishment should have been given to her like the "pick a pin" or "frog jump" or any other befitting punishment which for women are harsh and tedious. So my brother let us be honest with ourselves, in Nigeria there is always the abuse of power. Let me tell you something there is a reason why this thing happened...to expose the rotteness of this people (truth be told if he knew she would be crippled he never would have laid a finger on her whether she cursed his full generation or worse).

ablyguy:

Well to clarify you. The orientation camp is under the command of the commandant, therefore it falls under millitary command and codes. I believe as a corper the moment you step into the camp you were read some rules and told to obey orders without questioning them. Is their any wisdom in the girl's act. Who is she?

The thing is that most of the people calling the man an animal are the same people that will slap a kid on the street for not greeting them. We Nigerians are rash, rude and most times irrational. So don't compare us with some other country. Millitary or no millitary, all are the same...

Rhemmymatician: In hindsight the Captain was wrong. But, do you think he set out to injure her spine? You call him an animal, a brute. If you have seen/experienced the military in such 'controlled' hostile situation, you will know that first thing they do is rake the person down. Now he could have done that and she'dd probably get injured, or not. But its the norm to get the person on the ground, most often in anyway possible.
My point is he didn't set out to injure her spine. He wanted her on the ground, and unfortunately she got badly injured in the process.

And whatever happened to equality? Please you people should stop stressing the 'woman' factor here.

Will I say so if it were my sister or my mother? Yes I will. because the truth must be said. You wonder, why was she the one kicked to the ground? I'm an human being just like the captain you don't give me a mouthful in front of my subordinates and then I look at you, smile and move on. No sir.
If I was in that shoe, will I try to fight for my friends right? Definitely.
Will I take a garrulous path or a diplomatic one? Diplomatic
Will I respect that I'm talking to a senior officer? One that is likely older than I am? Of course yes.
Bottom line: if I was in her shoes I won't suffer the consequences she's suffering now.

That said, I wish her quick recovery