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Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by Nobody: 12:52pm On Jul 09, 2013
SmartTalk:

Not good enough. Americans fought their Anglo-Saxon brothers from Britain - in alliance with France of all countries - before fighting the Spanish. They also fought among themselves - North and South - before fighting terrorism. Read about how they sawed of wounded soldiers legs and how bitter the war was.

Any vision of Nigeria limping endlessly into oblivion is deluded as no one would want to join you on that journey - not me for sure. Those that get anarchy in their realm nurture anarchy; you reap what you sow. Nigeria would descend into anarchy faster as it is than when we plan peaceful and democratic determination of nation states.

God bless Biafra.

Yes but it took America almost 300 years to get to where they are today....

Also remember that the American populace was not made up over 250 different ethnic groups and their accompanying sub-groups...

Consider that their wars were fought with Primituve weapons and consider the capacity for destruction today's weapons have.

What applied in the 1700s is obsolete today my man...

If the Kasala bursts....it's every man for himself first...then town...then ethnic group...and that's a recipe for disaster

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Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by Nobody: 12:56pm On Jul 09, 2013
What most people don't know is that even if you get the best leader ever to govern Nigeria, the country will always be a failure. There are too many vested interests(both internal and external) - and the sheer size & population of the country is a psychological threat(not a military threat) to the powers that be in the world. Also add the innate hatred the black man has for himself and his kind; his wickedness; his permanent disposition not to allow anyone from his race who's a little bit different from him succeed. Awolowo did a lot for the Western region - how come the other groups in Nigeria didn't rally around him to get him to change the fortunes of Nigeria as a whole? Murtala Muhammed was the next best thing, but the powers that be used his own black brother to kill him. Patrice Lumumba was a great man, but he was killed by his own brothers. The same goes for Malcolm X etc..

However, if we end up in smaller groups, without posing any threat whatsoever to external powers. Then I believe it will be easier to achieve greater things. We don't need to be relevant in world affairs - we just need smaller countries people can be part/proud of and call home.

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Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by SmartTalk: 1:00pm On Jul 09, 2013
Oahray: stories... You give yourself and others hope without considering all possibilities. I assume you are igbo. So tell me this... Do you know igbos discriminate amongst themselves? For example, an Anambra igbo does not see himself the same as an Imo igbo. You are free to deny this, buh I'm pretty sure you are aware of it.

I'm not saying Nigeria is getting better as a nation, the bloodshed part of my post was in reference to the folly of anticipating missing anything. Have you ever reflected on the effects of a real war? I guess not. Whatever bloodshed you see now is nothing compared to a war, and wars usually precedes breakups of nations.

The future of a post-breakup mini-Nigeria? Somethings would surely happen. The same old greed would creep up, tribalism would assume a more familiar face. Then the historians and analsts would come out and talk about how Nigeria was better as a single nation, or how the western world instigated the breakup to their advantage.

When Egypt kicked out Mubarak and put in Morsi, they believed it was a step in the right direction, didn't they? Humans never learn from history.

Stories. Keep dreaming about possibilities that you great grandfathers dreamt of that are nothing but mirages.

Do you know that Israelis discriminate among themselves, and I am talking about Jewish Israelis? Do you know Caucasians discriminate among themselves based on hair color and ancestry? I am not going to deny it, discrimation is a human frailty, and the kind of "discrimination" you are talking about is very benign. Hatred is not involved; you don't see them killing themselves over that particular issue. If they kill themselves, it is over land or money, not different from other parts of the country or other nations.

Did I say anything about war? I was talking about referendum. Who told you that a war would not come if we keep ignoring reality? Compare how the Austro-Hungarian empire collapsed, how Yugoslavia and other nations that ignored reality eventually broke up. I am talking more of avoiding that.

All those problems would rear their heads if you allow them. Right now, a landlord can refuse you accommodation in Lagos based on your ethnicity and no one is suggesting how to curb that. That is why Nigeria is never going to go forward; because Nigeria gives us excuse to ignore what is wrong. Everybody react to issues only when it affects them. I don't see that changing.

Oh! And yes, the Egyptians should have just waited for God to take out their leaders like Nigerians do. The same Egyptians that got rid of Mubarak got rid of Morsi. We tried something like that in Nigeria, and the question other Nigerians started asking - after celebrating of course - is, "hang on, most of these coupists are Igbo, o." We cannot even have a change of government, democratically or otherwise, without asking where the next one is coming from. Not much has changed since the 1960's, except for high unemployment.

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Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by Nobody: 1:02pm On Jul 09, 2013
@KidStranglehold

Nice Siggy.(Jcole Reference)

I see you wink

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Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by SmartTalk: 1:08pm On Jul 09, 2013
ShyM-X:


We all already have our different identities, which are our various ethnic groups. However, there's a conflict of interest between our identity(ethnicity) and nationality(Nigeria). The realism should be based on the consciousness, derived from our derived from our identities. Igbo's for example are capitalism inclined, the Yoruba's are a mix of both capitalism and socialism with monarchy(similar to the Brits), and the Hausa/Fulani are feudal. So they shouldn't have a problem formulating a philosophy based on their consciousness.

Also, I don't outright think secession under the current status quo would be the right option, it will be too bloody and may result in decades of bloodshed. The best way would be gradual secession and similar groups aligning with one another. We will probably need to start off with the restructuring of the country based on groups with cultural and historical affinity. Then get power away from the center, and let these new restructured zones control their own destinies. It can be a 5-10 year plan. Once that can be achieved - secession would be easier. And even if it ends up being bloody - it won't be as bloody as doing it under the current set-up.

We are saying the same thing. I even posted some threads about preparing the ground for Biafra. The thread series is titled "Preparing the East for a Post Nigeria Future". Even secession has to be planned to be peaceful. My concern is if we do not plan it, it wuld come suddenly and violently on us. You suggested confederation, fine. What political groups support that? Let us identify them. I never said secession has to be immediate, I am emphasizing that we make plans towards that route in a practical manner, not just saying it. And I believe the first step is to identify political groups that support whatever would lead us to that part, whether their plan takes 50 years or 5 years.
Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by Nobody: 1:13pm On Jul 09, 2013
SmartTalk:
We are saying the same thing. I even posted some threads about preparing the ground for Biafra. The thread series is titled "Preparing the East for a Post Nigeria Future". Even secession has to be planned to be peaceful. My concern is if we do not plan it, it wuld come suddenly and violently on us. You suggested confederation, fine. What political groups support that? Let us identify them. I never said secession has to be immediate, I am emphasizing that we make plans towards that route in a practical manner, not just saying it. And I believe the first step is to identify political groups that support whatever would lead us to that part, whether their plan takes 50 years or 5 years.

Alright, bro.

As for the groups that supports confederation: I think those clamouring for regional government are kind of in support of a quasi-confederation.
Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by SmartTalk: 1:15pm On Jul 09, 2013
jackbauersballs:

Yes but it took America almost 300 years to get to where they are today....

Also remember that the American populace was not made up over 250 different ethnic groups and their accompanying sub-groups...

Consider that their wars were fought with Primituve weapons and consider the capacity for destruction today's weapons have.

What applied in the 1700s is obsolete today my man...

If the Kasala bursts....it's every man for himself first...then town...then ethnic group...and that's a recipe for disaster

Well, they did not take 300 years to plan their tomorrow. They did not take 300 years to break off from Britain, they left Canada to be strung along by the nose by Britain and took their future in their hands.

For the sake of equivalency I would mention that Malaysia has just as many ethnic groups if not more than 250. That did not stop them from letting Singapore go.

It was fought with primitive weapons but was bitter all the same.

We have to plan for secession instead of waiting for kasala to burst.
Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by SmartTalk: 1:16pm On Jul 09, 2013
ShyM-X:


Alright, bro.

As for the groups that supports confederation: I think those clamouring for regional government are kind of in support of a quasi-confederation.

The threads I referred to earlier titled "Preparing the East for a Post Nigeria Future" are below:

www.nairaland.com/1248907/preparing-east-post-nigeria-future
www.nairaland.com/1331718/preparing-east-post-nigeria-future
www.nairaland.com/1333111/preparing-east-post-nigeria-future
www.nairaland.com/1340291/preparing-east-post-nigeria-future
www.nairaland.com/1341397/preparing-east-post-nigeria-future
www.nairaland.com/1344788/preparing-east-post-nigeria-future

Back to your comment; unfortunately too many of those people are just pretentious. The question that comes to my mind is, since they have party members in senate, why have they not yet tabled that for consideration in their debates. If they have, I am yet to get the memo.
Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by Nobody: 1:17pm On Jul 09, 2013
The Yoruba civil war is a different kettle of fish entirely. Yes, they fought against Ibadan because Ibadan was trying to control them. Ibadan as it's is no-man's land, and you definitely can't allow a place like that lord over you - it's un-Yoruba.

However, how come the other subgroups never fought against Oyo, when it reigned supreme? There were a few Yoruba subgroups that were never part of the Oyo empire, yet Oyo never went to war against them. Ijebu's were never part of Oyo, same goes for the Aworis in Lagos, and it seems the Ekitis were also never part of it.

Ibadan just got too big for its shoes, it was put where it belongs!!
Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by Nobody: 2:11pm On Jul 09, 2013
ShyM-X:


Why, brother?

Do you care about humanity and the poor? As a black man raised and living in Great Britain, I understand what poverty is, even if it's within a different context. Poverty is relative. Though, I'm older now and I'm out there making things happen for myself - I can still hear the voices of the poor around the world. Now imagine a country as blessed as Nigeria with about 80% poverty rate.

These poor people have no voice, they don't understand what it's to be part of something. Nigeria has never done anything for them, so why should they continue to embrace a country that has failed the generations before them, their generation, and that will fail the future ones? They need smaller countries where the country can get closer to them, make them understand what it feels like to be part of something - hence increasing their consciousness on what patriotism entails. They need an identity that's in-born and not a forced one.

Nigeria is never going to give them all these. Hence, why I support the disintegration of the country into smaller units.

Even though I am not Nigerian or African I personally do not want to see Nigeria break up for an number of reasons. I believe the future generation of Africans can change Africa. I mean they seem much more ambitious. You do not know what the future generation has in store for Nigeria.

Africa already has too many small new countries. With Nigeria divided up, it will no longer be the heart of Africa. A unified Nigeria is a strong Nigeria. Nigeria is unique because it is so big and diverse. It is the only African country with so many ethic. We should not just give up, Nigeria is slowly starting to progress, just look at Lagos. I keep hearing its about to become a mega city and business is booming there. I also hear that ethic groups around Nigeria live in Lagos and get along with each other. Nigerians should just NOT give up. They should strive to become the powerhouse of Africa, they have to potential to do so. They are already the powerhouse of West Africa, after being Ghana. If Nigeria were to divide then they would lose that.

I understand corruption and poverty in Nigeria and know that is a huge problem, but I believe Nigeria is attacking those problems. Lets just be glad Nigeria is not like the Democratic Republic of Congo or Somalia. I apologize for continuing to repeat myself, but Nigeria and Nigerians SHOULD NOT GIVE UP HOPE and work for a better Nigeria, a better Nigeria for everyone.

Have patience and maybe the future generation will be a better one. Just look at Angola, Rwanda and Botswana.

Angola=Deadliest civil war in Africa lastest until 2002(I think). Now fastest growing economy in Africa.

Rwanda=Deadly genocide in the 90s. Now known as the Singapore of Africa.

Botswana=One of poorest country in Africa after colonization. Now one of the few African countries with the most stable economy and has a good democracy.

If these countries can go against all odds then so can Nigeria.
Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by Nobody: 2:11pm On Jul 09, 2013
jackbauersballs: @KidStranglehold

Nice Siggy.(Jcole Reference)

I see you wink

LOL! grin
Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by Nobody: 3:30pm On Jul 09, 2013
KidStranglehold:
Even though I am not Nigerian or African I personally do not want to see Nigeria break up for an number of reasons. I believe the future generation of Africans can change Africa. I mean they seem much more ambitious. You do not know what the future generation has in store for Nigeria.

Africa already has too many small new countries. With Nigeria divided up, it will no longer be the heart of Africa. A unified Nigeria is a strong Nigeria. Nigeria is unique because it is so big and diverse. It is the only African country with so many ethic. We should not just give up, Nigeria is slowly starting to progress, just look at Lagos. I keep hearing its about to become a mega city and business is booming there. I also hear that ethic groups around Nigeria live in Lagos and get along with each other. Nigerians should just NOT give up. They should strive to become the powerhouse of Africa, they have to potential to do so. They are already the powerhouse of West Africa, after being Ghana. If Nigeria were to divide then they would lose that.

I understand corruption and poverty in Nigeria and know that is a huge problem, but I believe Nigeria is attacking those problems. Lets just be glad Nigeria is not like the Democratic Republic of Congo or Somalia. I apologize for continuing to repeat myself, but Nigeria and Nigerians SHOULD NOT GIVE UP HOPE and work for a better Nigeria, a better Nigeria for everyone.

Have patience and maybe the future generation will be a better one. Just look at Angola, Rwanda and Botswana.

Angola=Deadliest civil war in Africa lastest until 2002(I think). Now fastest growing economy in Africa.

Rwanda=Deadly genocide in the 90s. Now known as the Singapore of Africa.

Botswana=One of poorest country in Africa after colonization. Now one of the few African countries with the most stable economy and has a good democracy.

If these countries can go against all odds then so can Nigeria.

Sa pa se, bruddah!!!


It's good to dream big and live in idealist fantasies. However when it starts looking like MLK's dream(which later became a nightmare), then there comes the time to get back to reality. Yes, the future generations of Africans can change Africa, hence why we need to start now by starting up the space and envinronment for them to thrive. The current set-up is never going to work. They will just end up like this generation and the ones before us, if we don't change it.

I know you're a pan-Africanist, and I onced believed in that pipe dream, till I had the opportunity of getting a closer picture of the mindset of the people via this medium. I still believe pan-Africanism as an ideology can be redefined and salvaged. However, we need to change the current set-up that enables the old generation to indoctrinate the younger ones with hatred for the opposing ethnic group. If they can be separated from the forced union - there won't be any need for more indoctrination, and everyone can interact based on mutual respect.

Europe, Asia, Middle East, and the Americas also have many small countries. Nigeria has never been the heart of Africa - it would've been, but it failed to live up to the hype. And it has been discarded by other African countries. No one cares about Nigeria anymore, to be honest. Even Ghana is more of a heavyweight in the African context, than Nigeria is.

If and when Nigeria breaks up, I believe the smaller countries will achieve what Nigeria never achieved. They all have the human and natural resources to do that. And it will be easier for them to judiciously utilise what they've got. A bigger country isn't necessarily synonymous with being powerful - Israel, Qatar, Japan, and even Russia(to an extent) have shown that. Smaller Russia is about to be more powerful than the Soviet Union, with what Messr Putin has in-stock for them.

Also: Angola, Rwanda, and Botswana were able to move from their problems to stability and progress because of their sizes. Don't forget Nigeria also went through a bloody civil war in the 60s, which left more than 3 million people dead. However, we've retrogressed since them. That's a perfect example of why being too big can be disadvantageous.

PS: I'm a little busy with work now. Post a reply and I'll get back to you later tonight when I get home.

Hotep, brother.

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Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by Nobody: 3:32pm On Jul 09, 2013
KidStranglehold:

LOL! grin

I'mma change my handle to "Let Nas Down" or "Made Nas Proud."

Damn!! I'm letting him down with my posts on this thread by going against pan-Africanism.

However, I'm making him proud by showing black consciousness and Afrocentricism!! wink

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Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by Nobody: 5:09pm On Jul 09, 2013
ShyM-X:


Sa pa se, bruddah!!!


It's good to dream big and live in idealist fantasies. However when it starts looking like MLK's dream(which later became a nightmare), then there comes the time to get back to reality. Yes, the future generations of Africans can change Africa, hence why we need to start now by starting up the space and envinronment for them to thrive. The current set-up is never going to work. They will just end up like this generation and the ones before us, if we don't change it.

I know you're a pan-Africanist, and I onced believed in that pipe dream, till I had the opportunity of getting a closer picture of the mindset of the people via this medium. I still believe pan-Africanism as an ideology can be redefined and salvaged. However, we need to change the current set-up that enables the old generation to indoctrinate the younger ones with hatred for the opposing ethnic group. If they can be separated from the forced union - there won't be any need for more indoctrination, and everyone can interact based on mutual respect.

Europe, Asia, Middle East, and the Americas also have many small countries. Nigeria has never been the heart of Africa - it would've been, but it failed to live up to the hype. And it has been discarded by other African countries. No one cares about Nigeria anymore, to be honest. Even Ghana is more of a heavyweight in the African context, than Nigeria is.

If and when Nigeria breaks up, I believe the smaller countries will achieve what Nigeria never achieved. They all have the human and natural resources to do that. And it will be easier for them to judiciously utilise what they've got. A bigger country isn't necessarily synonymous with being powerful - Israel, Qatar, Japan, and even Russia(to an extent) have shown that. Smaller Russia is about to be more powerful than the Soviet Union, with what Messr Putin has in-stock for them.

Also: Angola, Rwanda, and Botswana were able to move from their problems to stability and progress because of their sizes. Don't forget Nigeria also went through a bloody civil war in the 60s, which left more than 3 million people dead. However, we've retrogressed since them. That's a perfect example of why being too big can be disadvantageous.

PS: I'm a little busy with work now. Post a reply and I'll get back to you later tonight when I get home.

Hotep, brother.

I'm not a Pan-Africanist. I actually think Pan-Africa is VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE. All I want is for Nigeria not to break up because I feel they can lose so much.

But anyways good post.
Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by Nobody: 5:10pm On Jul 09, 2013
ShyM-X:


I'mma change my handle to "Let Nas Down" or "Made Nas Proud."

Damn!! I'm letting him down with my posts on this thread by going against pan-Africanism.

However, I'm making him proud by showing black consciousness and Afrocentricism!! wink

Yeah that's one of my most favorite J cole songs. grin
Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by Nobody: 6:07pm On Jul 09, 2013
KidStranglehold:

Yeah that's one of my most favorite J cole songs. grin

That's what's up.

Jamming to "Born Sinner" right about now. wink
Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by Nobody: 6:09pm On Jul 09, 2013
KidStranglehold:
I'm not a Pan-Africanist. I actually think Pan-Africa is VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE. All I want is for Nigeria not to break up because I feel they can lose so much.

But anyways good post.

Nigeria has nothing to lose - the country is in abyss already.

However, the people will gain from the disintegration and that's the honest truth.

Sa pa se!

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Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by Nobody: 7:25pm On Jul 09, 2013
se.xkilza.phull:
First, the earth will miss millions of humans who will be victims of the break-up, if there is a war.

However, if it were by negotiation, one of the pre-conditions is first to have every one return to their father's ancestral land first for like 10 - 20 years BEFORE breakup. That is more than enough time to get used to it and make new friends anyway. grin grin Some of us who don't even live in Nigeria will not even feel it that much...LOL.

So, ibos MUST go back to their iboland first.
The Hausas/Fulani are nice like you said and will go back to their lands, if such a law is made.
The Yorubas will have no problems going back.
All the other tribes should do the same!

Then the BIG KABOOM of disintegration of the cesspit from the people who have kept us back! LWTMB grin grin The only people who are most certainly NOT to obey such a resolution, yes you guessed right! grin grin They want Lagos and Kano, Abuja and the oil fields of Ijawland and Rivers! The funny thing is the same people who cannot vote useful governors now, who cannot show the world they are special anything now, they somehow think a landlocked country with potential hostiles / non-friendly countries will make their land paradise? Not only with it landlocked, it will be air locked for the air-space of their land will also be accessible from the air-space of people who they have abused for decades now. What if every aircraft known to be going to your land is shot down or allowed to fly after paying very heavy taxes? Where will food come from? Even if it were shipped in from China, for it to fly through other countries borders, it will have to be shared 50-50! It won't be long before economic strangulation and violence makes it obvious it is very unworkable. Only by that time, every part of the SW (including any peoples that go with them) will make it impossible for any ibo to live and work in their lands. Sell your properties now before it is too late or uproot it and take it with you. You will never be able to eat your cake and have it. [size=16pt]If Nigeria and NIGERIANS are NOT GOOD ENOUGH for you NOW, THE PEOPLES WILL CHOOSE NOT TO BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU AFTERWARDS! [/size]
ode, come nd c d osuns, ekitis nd oyos scattered all over igboland, oguns nd lagosians dnt travel mch.
Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by Nobody: 7:45pm On Jul 09, 2013
ShyM-X:


Damn byt.ch!! I told you to stop speaking to under your pseudo-handles and use your real handle to speak to me. Shyte, are you that cowardly? - I can see through your bs.

By the way, do you mean the primitive men from the East, where the sun rises from, but don't shine? Well, those primitive men started what they couldn't finish, and they got slammed with a sledge hammer. undecided

Anyway, the inevitable disintegration is right on course - oil prices should crash in the next two/three years. And when irreparable poverty hits the land - there shall be chaos everywhere and the owners of Nigeria shall be forced to do the right thing. Add the coming election to the equation. undecided
I cn c d sun shinning ind west na(irony), na d sun rust ibadan, oshogbo, abeokuta nd akure building zinc finish na, I wil miss d dilapidated buildings I c in western nigeria cities.
Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by Nobody: 8:13pm On Jul 09, 2013
Afam4eva:
The problem with Nigerian has always being the source and you asserted that in your 'measles' analogy. With a new country, every section have the opportunity to make things right at the beginning. But whether they will do that is another thing. But i feel things will be better but note to the extent that the world will take note. Like i said, it may not be different from typical African countries.

Yea...I would've love to hold on to this but the truth of the matter is that; that ain't happening! It would've been hopeful if people don realize sey na the problem be that! When things start to fail in the new countries, what will happen again is people shifting blames like they've been doing in their previous country. There's a saying; 'what you don't want as a rich man, you start to reject them when you are poor'.


BTW, Nigeria is actually better than most African nations. Forget the media propaganda and what most Nigerians think; a visit to Cameroon, Niger, Liberia etc will Convince you. Nigeria is still one of the better countries out of Africa. So saying the new countries will be like other typical countries is more like a bad thing rather than good!


On a side note: I don't see Nigeria breaking up anymore.....the signs are just not there. Anyone who lives in Nigeria knows 'breakup' will always be a dream.

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Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by Malawian(m): 8:29pm On Jul 09, 2013
Yoruba POOSIE. THEY ARE SOO OILY, THEY ARE NEVER DRY DURING SHINNING. smiley smiley sad sad sad sad

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Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by Adamskuty(m): 8:29pm On Jul 09, 2013
SmartTalk:

I definitely would not miss Nigerians fantasizing about killing and victimizing Biafrans. They would find out that they do not have the means or permission of the international community to attack a sovereign nation without destroying their own interests. They would also be surprised by the alliances - financial and political - that Biafra would be able to build with African neighbors and foreigners. And besides, if sending "others" out of the South West is going to be a priority, feel free to become like Pakistan after Nigeria's breakup. Rivers tried that, find out how it worked for them.

@onila, look at the good side, not having a Nigerian community to identify with means you would have to learn to relate better with other Africans. This would serve the purpose of pan-Africanism better.

God bless Biafra.
but firstly who will want to associate with drug dealers?? grin


if biafra should go,nigeria will br free,free like a bird grin no more being tag a drug country,we wont be hated by the world,instead the new drug country shall be biafra grin

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Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by Nobody: 12:04am On Jul 10, 2013
nwabekeyi: I cn c d sun shinning ind west na(irony), na d sun rust ibadan, oshogbo, abeokuta nd akure building zinc finish na, I wil miss d dilapidated buildings I c in western nigeria cities.

I'll let Kendrick Lamar speak to you. grin grin grin grin

I am a sinner who's probably gonna sin again
Lord forgive me, Lord forgive me things I don't understand
Sometimes I need to be alone
bi.tch don't kill my vibe, bi.tch don't kill my vibe
I can feel your energy from two planets away
I got my drink, I got my music
I would share it but today I'm yelling
bi.tch don't kill my vibe, bi.tch don't kill my vibe
bi.tch don't kill my vibe, bi.tch don't kill my vibe
Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by SmartTalk: 4:35pm On Jul 12, 2013
Adamskuty: but firstly who will want to associate with drug dealers?? grin


if biafra should go,nigeria will br free,free like a bird grin no more being tag a drug country,we wont be hated by the world,instead the new drug country shall be biafra grin

Then put your money where your mouth is. Support the separatist movement of Biafran nationalist. We are done hearing this type of rant and contradictory actions. Since people like you talk so much about not wanting to be associated with Biafra, you should be more eager than anybody to have Biafra leave Nigeria. We Biafrans would be so glad to leave you Nigerians and your propensity to blame others for your failings, your inept government, unjust laws, . . . and the list goes on. So since we both agree, we should be on the same page on separatism.

God bless Biafra.
Re: If Nigeria Breaks Up What Will You Miss? by SmartTalk: 3:22pm On Jul 14, 2013
KidStranglehold:

Even though I am not Nigerian or African I personally do not want to see Nigeria break up for an number of reasons. I believe the future generation of Africans can change Africa. I mean they seem much more ambitious. You do not know what the future generation has in store for Nigeria.

Africa already has too many small new countries. With Nigeria divided up, it will no longer be the heart of Africa. A unified Nigeria is a strong Nigeria. Nigeria is unique because it is so big and diverse. It is the only African country with so many ethic. We should not just give up, Nigeria is slowly starting to progress, just look at Lagos. I keep hearing its about to become a mega city and business is booming there. I also hear that ethic groups around Nigeria live in Lagos and get along with each other. Nigerians should just NOT give up. They should strive to become the powerhouse of Africa, they have to potential to do so. They are already the powerhouse of West Africa, after being Ghana. If Nigeria were to divide then they would lose that.

I understand corruption and poverty in Nigeria and know that is a huge problem, but I believe Nigeria is attacking those problems. Lets just be glad Nigeria is not like the Democratic Republic of Congo or Somalia. I apologize for continuing to repeat myself, but Nigeria and Nigerians SHOULD NOT GIVE UP HOPE and work for a better Nigeria, a better Nigeria for everyone.

Have patience and maybe the future generation will be a better one. Just look at Angola, Rwanda and Botswana.

Angola=Deadliest civil war in Africa lastest until 2002(I think). Now fastest growing economy in Africa.

Rwanda=Deadly genocide in the 90s. Now known as the Singapore of Africa.

Botswana=One of poorest country in Africa after colonization. Now one of the few African countries with the most stable economy and has a good democracy.

If these countries can go against all odds then so can Nigeria.

In addition to @Shy-mex response, I would say that your argument and the examples you used are even more reasons that Nigeria should break up. No one wants to be a part of a big-for-nothing country. That may have been fashionable in the age of the Persian empire and before the First World War, but we live in different times now.

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