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Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by 360command: 1:54am On Jul 10, 2013 |
lawmani: What Stephen Keshi needs to understand,Urgently!@ bolded, have we ever won any CAF champions league at that time for our clubs to be one of the best in africa? perhaps , someone can tell me otherwise. 2 Likes |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by WildChild00(m): 1:54am On Jul 10, 2013 |
My take on the issue between coach Stephen Keshi and Sunday Oliseh is this, both of them have really tried and countributed to the development of football to our dear country Nigeria no doubt about that, but has anybody ever ask himself/herself why coach Stephen Keshi is always to quick to defend his team, as in when they do badly, "we are still re-building, and as you can see, the xyz team has been together for 3-4years, why the super eagles for just 8 months" must Keshi always say this when they loose? He said this wen we lost to Spain, etc.... As for Sunday Ugochukwu Oliseh, we know you are an analysis, but you should not forget where you are coming from. |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by thegoodjoehunt(m): 1:56am On Jul 10, 2013 |
overdrive: Bulls eye from oliseh! What is bull's eye here. Abeg, no valid points but rants. Mind you Coach Keshi deseves the praise for Mikel's development. How coupd Oliseh try to credit foreign coaches who only tried to destroy Africa's brightest talent. 1 Like |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by Lordave: 1:57am On Jul 10, 2013 |
"If he can accept our support and praise, he should accept our constructive critics in the interest of the country and making enemies left and right is not the way to go, obviously some of us do not learn from the past! The interest of Nigeria comes first than that of Sunday Oliseh or Stephen Keshi!" what more does he (Oliseh) need to say? |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by Lordave: 2:00am On Jul 10, 2013 |
WildChild00: My take on the issue between coach Stephen Keshi and Sunday Oliseh is this, both of them have really tried and countributed to the development of football to our dear country Nigeria no doubt about that, but has anybody ever ask himself/herself why coach Stephen Keshi is always to quick to defend his team, as in when they do badly, "we are still re-building, and as you can see, the xyz team has been together for 3-4years, why the super eagles for just 8 months" must Keshi always say this when they loose? He said this wen we lost to Spain, etc....what do you mean by Oliseh is an analysis 1 Like |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by WildChild00(m): 2:01am On Jul 10, 2013 |
Lordave: "If he can accept our support and praise, he should accept our constructive critics in the interest of the country and making enemies left and right is not the way to go, obviously some of us do not learn from the past! The interest of Nigeria comes first than that of Sunday Oliseh or Stephen Keshi!" My take as well, for any individual to be sucessful in life, you must listen when you're meant to, no man is an island. |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by Lordave: 2:04am On Jul 10, 2013 |
collynzo2:so transfer window was already closed clubs cannot bid for a player again? Lame criticism! |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by WildChild00(m): 2:10am On Jul 10, 2013 |
Lordave: what do you mean by Oliseh is an analysis He was airing his own opinion, as a sport commentator for Super sports, dat is wat I was about saying. |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by thegoodjoehunt(m): 2:12am On Jul 10, 2013 |
olu070706: This was not all about Oliseh alone on Supersport, all the panel members said this, why did Keshi pick on Oliseh, maybe because he is a Nigerian. However, I agree with Oliseh that Keshi should welcome criticism, even the special one is criticised. All other teams in Confederation cup came with their best team but Nigeria went to test new players, this should not be. Keshi is still okay sha. This best team you guys keep talking about, I still don't know them. Do you guys remember how awful Ike Uche was at the Afcon. Or how poor Yobo was? Is it Coach Keshi's fault that our football stunk for years? We should be grateful someone is ready to roll his sleeves and clean people's mess. 1 Like |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by emorse(m): 2:13am On Jul 10, 2013 |
I hear things like Osaze being a problem child and I laugh. What's the job of a manager if not to bring out the best in his players? What has Osaze done that Balotelli has not done? Yet he (Balotelli) plays regularly for his national team and club. And he does well too. Tevez, Ramos, Rooney, Suarez and even Ronaldo are never far away from controversy, yet their respective managers have a way of bringing out the best in them. Keshi can do better. DIPLOMACY is the word. 1 Like |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by Lordave: 2:13am On Jul 10, 2013 |
WildChild00:ok o |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by thegoodjoehunt(m): 2:25am On Jul 10, 2013 |
texaco1: Back your words with facts. List the experienced and exposed players Coach Keshi should call. |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by edi287: 2:25am On Jul 10, 2013 |
Kgdavid:Oh really?? |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by thegoodjoehunt(m): 2:34am On Jul 10, 2013 |
Why can't Oliseh tell us how many of the Brazillian playears were in the Confederations cup before this one and the World Cup. Even KAKA and Ronaldinho were dropped. NO LONG TIN: This Oliseh sef!!! d guy don dey tire me. |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by timmy(m): 2:37am On Jul 10, 2013 |
I saw oliseh's comment after the Spain match and it was directed largely at the league managers and not the coach. As much as ppl think keshi is good, I think he isn't. At afcon his tactics were poor and we struggled in the stage games. Against civ, we were underdogs and that made our players up their energy level, and since then keshi has adopted this energy football. Charge and follow! That's why our players burn out so easily. They spend so much energy charging at opponents and fail to build up a decent pas that leads to goals. The only time we did at the comfed was when mikel scored. We conceded 5 goals and scored only one (please Tahiti shouldn't count ). Ideye, akpala, ujah and miss are all good strikers, it takes a great manager to bring out the killer instinct in them. Keshi was a defender, how will he know what to tell our attackers? Why i love Siasia is that he fields players that fit into his style. Keshi keeps saying our team is young, yet he is the same person who keeps changing at will. What happened to obiora nwankwo, Reuben Gabriel, and all the guys who went for afcon? Why is our afcon winning team unable to beat Rwanda, Kenya and co just few months after winning afcon? Simply put, the success factor that was around th team at the afcon knock out stages are no longer there. The NFf, Amodu, kanu, jayjay and many sport analyst were all in camp to motivate the players. Keshi and amokachi know the politics they played to get Siasia out. Using the same super sport. Karma is about to tell on them. 2 Likes |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by thegoodjoehunt(m): 2:46am On Jul 10, 2013 |
Same thing with EPL analyst. They analyse past games for pre-match analysis, analyse first half during half time. Then analyse the whole match during post match analysis. They are always scared to analyse and lose. delors: Havent you guys noticed that the analyses of these so-called professional analysts are always reactionary? They run their analyses after the matches have been played and then blame the coach for what he did/didnt meanwheile nobody said anything about the problem or loophole before the matches. if those guys had won or at least reached final, they would have said Keshi was d best in the world, he had vision to have used those home based boys, etc blah blah blah... |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by thegoodjoehunt(m): 2:54am On Jul 10, 2013 |
aikuda: There is more to analysis than watch and talk. If you listen to Gary Neville, he breaks down what to expect and how to stop it. Predicting is part of analysis like Segun Odegbami predicting Mikel doing a Messi at the last Afcon. For instance, this season, I am expecting Manuel Pellegrini to make Man City untouchable because of the way he took Malaga from the last of the La Liga table to a force in Europe. I am expecting Liverpool to break into the top 4 this season. I am expecting Guardiola to make Bayern even more powerful. I could be right or wrong. These super analyst never want to be wrong. 1 Like |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by Obiagu1(m): 2:56am On Jul 10, 2013 |
Super Eagles coach,Stephen Keshi,has lambasted former team-mate Sunday Oliseh,following his criticisms over the homebased players,that he took to the 2013 FIFA Confederations Cup. Oliseh in his punditry role with Supersports,criticised the level of performance by the local based players,Keshi took to the tournament,adding that they did not have what it takes to compete with the best players in the world. But Keshi who led the homebased players to victory on Saturday,in the first leg of the CHAN qualifiers against Ivory Coast,said that he was disappointed over Oliseh’s comments. ”It is a shame that Sunday Oliseh could say a thing like that. He was a nobody when he came to the national team. He started from home too,” Keshi was quoted to have said on Vanguard Sports. “is it bad that we are trying to build a team with the inclusion of home-based players? Please, help me question the integrity of those who are opposed to this and Tell them what it’s right.” ”When he came to the national team, I took him as a younger brother. I later (as an assistant coach to Amodu Shuabu) made him captain and he became a super star. Who knows what these boys could become in future?” Keshi took six homebased players to the 2013 African Nations Cup in South Africa,where a local based player(Sunday Mba) scored the winning goal in the final against Burkina Faso. He equally took eight homebased players to the Confederations Cup in Brazil,where Nigeria only won one game against Tahiti. 1 Like |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by Obiagu1(m): 2:59am On Jul 10, 2013 |
Thank you the Big Boss, Keshi. Oliseh is a clown, a very poor clown for that matter! Who did Keshi leave out for the Confed Cup? He should name names so that we'll be able to weigh in on his judgment. Instead of using a blanket term, foreign based, he should name those we should invite! 3 Likes |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by LEvuls(m): 3:00am On Jul 10, 2013 |
Whats all these reply and counter reply all about our football. both can sit down together to make S.E no.1 in the whole world. On the contrary..Honestly these reporters aint helping maters kwanu..mek dem stop all these their shoot bird him mama fly tori and concerntrate reports on the way forward..cos soon now final word cup qualification wil n and if we fail..heeeee na dat time both Coachila o,ex S.E players,NFA even u wey de report d news go de reply and report until there is nofin to reply and report again. take my bow |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by Obiagu1(m): 3:03am On Jul 10, 2013 |
I've never enjoyed the Eagles play since year 2000 until Keshi came in. Fact! Re-watch Nigeria vs Mali, pure classic;I've never seen Nigeria play so beautifully like that, ever! ... and home based players played in that match too. 2 Likes |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by thegoodjoehunt(m): 3:07am On Jul 10, 2013 |
It is people like you who didn't watch Siasia coach a second time at the U20 who expected much from him. He failed woefully and still wanted thr Super Eagles job. As for always using our best players, Coach Keshi doesn't have the luxury of having Neymar, Lucas Moura, Jo, Fred, Paulinho for Brazil. XAVI, Iniesta, Pedro, Busquets, Navas, Silva, Mata for Spain. Cavani, Suarez, Forlan for Uruguay. Mourinho had CR7, Kaka, Higuain, Benzema, Ozil, Di Maria, Modric and many more and went trophyless. Do you think Mourinho can cope with our national team better than Keshi? Do you know what Keshi will do with that Madrid team? emorse: If I were Keshi, I'd silently take Oliseh's advice because a coach is only as good as his last match. Moreso in our beloved Nigeria. 4 Likes |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by thegoodjoehunt(m): 3:11am On Jul 10, 2013 |
Lordave: Oga some of those players you listed as injured were not really injured. Moses faked his injury. Is it Coach Keshi that told Moses to fake his injury. Coach Keshi should know he is on his own here. If he fails, Oliseh won't lose his job. As for Osaze, I like the guy as a player and as an activist but Coach Keshi should not let him near his squad. Mancini regreted helping Joe Hart. A bad egg is a bad egg. It spoils the rest. |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by chizel: 3:18am On Jul 10, 2013 |
I think people should allow keshi to do his job,this our over sabi attitude has never taken us to any where before and will never take us to anywhere this time around.in as much as keshi is not super human that is above mistake,the just concluded confederation cup should not be the yardstick to judge and crucify him,westerhof could only achieve his feet back then in Nigeria bcs he was given more than enough time to correct his mistakes,keshi has barely settled down in his job but he has achieved a lot already.he doesn't need all this distractions now,b4 keshi came on board,the super eagles were full of foreign based players,yet they could not qaulify us for the nations cup,infact in my opinion,I will say that there was no super eagles then.personally,i v lost interest in the super eagles untill keshi came.just during the very last nations cup that oliseh was referring to,even the NFF did not believe keshi could achieve anything jugding by the caliber of players he went to the tournament with and that was why they book a return ticket in advance for the team prior to their match against ivory coast bcs they felt that the super eagles are as good as being eliminated,I didn't hear oliseh say something then,in as much as I love Sunday oliseh for his contribution to the national team during his active days as a footballer and as a person,I will totally disagree with him on this one bcs he's completely off the mark.keshi is on course,I will even prefer that our confederation cup outing was a disaster so that we shall have enough time to prepare before the world cup. 1 Like |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by chizel: 3:20am On Jul 10, 2013 |
I think people should allow keshi to do his job,this our over sabi attitude has never taken us to any where before and will never take us to anywhere this time around.in as much as keshi is not super human that is above mistake,the just concluded confederation cup should not be the yardstick to judge and crucify him,westerhof could only achieve his feet back then in Nigeria bcs he was given more than enough time to correct his mistakes,keshi has barely settled down in his job but he has achieved a lot already.he doesn't need all this distractions now,b4 keshi came on board,the super eagles were full of foreign based players,yet they could not qaulify us for the nations cup,infact in my opinion,I will say that there was no super eagles then.personally,i v lost interest in the super eagles untill keshi came.just during the very last nations cup that oliseh was referring to,even the NFF did not believe keshi could achieve anything jugding by the caliber of players he went to the tournament with and that was why they book a return ticket in advance for the team prior to their match against ivory coast bcs they felt that the super eagles are as good as being eliminated,I didn't hear oliseh say something then,in as much as I love Sunday oliseh for his contribution to the national team during his active days as a footballer and as a person,I will totally disagree with him on this one bcs he's completely off the mark.keshi is on course,I will even prefer that our confederation cup outing was a disaster so that we shall have enough time to prepare before the world cup. |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by thegoodjoehunt(m): 3:22am On Jul 10, 2013 |
Obiora Nwankwo that cost us in the Nations Cup and Coach Keshi never played him throughoutbthe tournament. Stop looking at the game and start watching. Do you know how many underdogs have been demolished by CIV? Do you think you can beat Brazil or Spain by raising your game because you are an underdog? Please putting 4 past Mali at the AFCON isn't beans. No wonder many of you are criticizing the coach. Keshi was a defender, therefore he can't coach top players, Abi? So what was Mourinho, Maradona? timmy: I saw oliseh's comment after the Spain match and it was directed largely at the league managers and not the coach. As much as ppl think keshi is good, I think he isn't. At afcon his tactics were poor and we struggled in the stage games. Against civ, we were underdogs and that made our players up their energy level, and since then keshi has adopted this energy football. Charge and follow! That's why our players burn out so easily. They spend so much energy charging at opponents and fail to build up a decent pas that leads to goals. The only time we did at the comfed was when mikel scored. We conceded 5 goals and scored only one (please Tahiti shouldn't count ). Ideye, akpala, ujah and miss are all good strikers, it takes a great manager to bring out the killer instinct in them. Keshi was a defender, how will he know what to tell our attackers? Why i love Siasia is that he fields players that fit into his style. Keshi keeps saying our team is young, yet he is the same person who keeps changing at will. What happened to obiora nwankwo, Reuben Gabriel, and all the guys who went for afcon? Why is our afcon winning team unable to beat Rwanda, Kenya and co just few months after winning afcon? Simply put, the success factor that was around th team at the afcon knock out stages are no longer there. The NFf, Amodu, kanu, jayjay and many sport analyst were all in camp to motivate the players. Keshi and amokachi know the politics they played to get Siasia out. Using the same super sport. Karma is about to tell on them. |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by Sheguama: 3:26am On Jul 10, 2013 |
edoyad: Sunday(kpomo lips) Oliseh, please be quiet already. Keshi has contributed more to Nigerian football than you could ever do even if you lived to be two hundred years old. I didn't like your personality much as a player and many Nigerians feel that way too. Speak for your self my friend. You are on your own. |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by akinladejo: 3:46am On Jul 10, 2013 |
ayusco: Hmmm I have gone through both keshi n oliseh post being proud men full of ego so its no suprise they would clash that said I'm mostly with keshi on this.. Nice points. You are just too much. |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by Nobody: 3:49am On Jul 10, 2013 |
After reading what oliseh wrote,must confess,did not know they were having issues,I am shocked that people are actually deriding oliseh for what he said. That is a man who basically spoke based on the love for his country.And if you think he wants Keshi's job,well do you think oliseh wants a job where he gets owed 6 months,3 months salary arrearswhy cant you bashers be objective for once.when the eagles won in 94,they were simply the best in Africa and all games they played,you cpould see a team going places,I dare anyone to name both teams to the Afcon and to the Confed cup and then compare the teams.the WC is basically around the corner and Nigeria is busy experimenting despite being African champions The confed cup is one of the tournaments u need to get a team together and not one you need to know who else to give a chance to. We are all glad we won the Afcon cup but of what use is it if we fail to qualify for the WC? If you trully find something wrong with what this man has said,well,you ned to learn more about constructive criticism and not just be sentimentally blinded by your love for one coach or the other. The League in the 90s was and is still better than the shambles we have now(watch ll the 15yr olds disagree) I went to stadia back then and followed the sport back then and still do today and the drop in standard is glaring the league that produced keshi,siasia,ogun-efon{eguaveon}(just had to do it),adepoju,yekini,finidi,iroha,oliha,rufai,ugbade,uche okechukwu,tj babangida beforee they went to europe but basically were well known before they even left the country THE MAN DOES NOT NEED KESHI'S JOB FOR HE HAS BETTER JOBS THAT PAY HIM BETTER MONEY its not like being SE coach qualifies you to coach a major club in d world |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by Nobody: 3:53am On Jul 10, 2013 |
thegoodjoehunt: It is people like you who didn't watch Siasia coach a second time at the U20 who expected much from him. He failed woefully and still wanted thr Super Eagles job. what!!!!!!that is total bs you just poured through your nostrils,mou did not go trophyless he won the league,copa del rey and supercopa with madrid before he left. keshi would have done squat with madrid like you all forget that keshi was also a coach of mali and togo and if you are good,you will be coach of a better team,at least when madrid job became vacant,keshi was not on mars Not saying he is bad coach but Nigerians should stop over blowing that stupid ego we have we still ahve a long way to go |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by Nobody: 3:59am On Jul 10, 2013 |
collynzo2:Now that its open, where is he? Ewu Congo |
Re: Sunday Oliseh Replies Stephen Keshi! - by thegoodjoehunt(m): 4:05am On Jul 10, 2013 |
You just heard Mourinho and started writing before reading. Mourinho went trophyless last season with an array of stars. Coach Keshi qualified Togo for the World cup. Do you know how difficult that was? Which stars in the Togolese teams, Malian Team can you compare to the teams Mourinho has coached? Including Porto. milehigh06: 1 Like |
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