morpheus24:

1.Thats your excuse, as if Asian Americans haven't been here for 100's of years. first generation horse Sh*$T!

2. "black" culture is an extension of a culture that already existed that has strong roots from the so called "mother" country.

#. you can hold on to your culture too, cause modern science can now pipoint where it originated from.

perhaps they very much are

You really can't see how nonsensical the above sounds.

In other words. African derived culture(brought fort by a mesh of West African cultures. and labeled as "black American" is the ethnicity. At the same time the ethnicity is a race and a nationality at the same time.

Go take a DNA test and find out what your original ethnicity is not your made up one. Your origins did not start from a slave ship.

Jayvarley:




I have done quite a bit of research on DNA testing. The DNA fest only tells a person a where a tiny percentage of their DNA comes from. So for instance if your Great-great-great-great Grandfather was Yoruba the Y CHROMOSOME would pass on from father to son unchanged for GENERATIONS. The DNA test would be able to tell you this. However it would not tell you where your Grandmothers on your Fathers side came from. As it is only targeting the Y CHROMSOME that MEN Pass on to their sons.

Also if a white Slave owner back down the line on your fathers side raped an African woman and had a son and that son had sons with only black women and their sons had more sons with only black women. The DNA TEST would still show a EUROPEAN Y CHROMOSOME AS it remains unchanged for generations. Therefore such a person may look 100% black and not be able to trace their Paternal African Origin or tribe.

Jayvarley:




I have done quite a bit of research on DNA testing. The DNA fest only tells a person a where a tiny percentage of their DNA comes from. So for instance if your Great-great-great-great Grandfather was Yoruba the Y CHROMOSOME would pass on from father to son unchanged for GENERATIONS. The DNA test would be able to tell you this. However it would not tell you where your Grandmothers on your Fathers side came from. As it is only targeting the Y CHROMSOME that MEN Pass on to their sons.

Also if a white Slave owner back down the line on your fathers side raped an African woman and had a son and that son had sons with only black women and their sons had more sons with only black women. The DNA TEST would still show a EUROPEAN Y CHROMOSOME AS it remains unchanged for generations. Therefore such a person may look 100% black and not be able to trace their Paternal African Origin or tribe.

morpheus24:

Do your research again on AUTOSOMAL DNA. It is a complete test that tells you how much African ancestry you have, not just your Y-DNA or your MTDNA which only traces direct male or female image.

In other words if you are 88% African derived DNA, 10% Europe and 2% Native American, by virtue of majority you would cluster with West/central AFricans and your phenotypical expressions would cluster along those lines as well.

SHikena!

morpheus24:

Do your research again on AUTOSOMAL DNA. It is a complete test that tells you how much African ancestry you have, not just your Y-DNA or your MTDNA which only traces direct male or female image.

In other words if you are 88% African derived DNA, 10% Europe and 2% Native American, by virtue of majority you would cluster with West/central AFricans and your phenotypical expressions would cluster along those lines as well.

SHikena!

Jayvarley:


I already did. I do not feel AUTOSOMAL DNA test tells me much. I already know I am MOSTLY of Sub Saharan African extraction without the help of DNA Testing. What would impress me is if they could give me a breakdown of the percentages of the African tribes I come from rather than telling me I am 89% Sub Saharan African. What a waste of Money.
And if I am of 11% European extraction how will that help me in the world today? Will it mean I get preferential treatment from whites?

Jayvarley:


I already did. I do not feel AUTOSOMAL DNA test tells me much. I already know I am MOSTLY of Sub Saharan African extraction without the help of DNA Testing. What would impress me is if they could give me a breakdown of the percentages of the African tribes I come from rather than telling me I am 89% Sub Saharan African. What a waste of Money.
And if I am of 11% European extraction how will that help me in the world today? Will it mean I get preferential treatment from whites?

KidStranglehold: Aye...I can tell this thread got heated.

Anyways Morphous I understand where both you and Kails is coming from. But theres some Africans that say AA's and other diasporans are not African but American. So...You also have to take it up with them to.

Personally I don't care what I am labeled or what people label me. African and black are just terms. You can mean African geographically or biologically.

morpheus24:

I can accept the term "black' to reference an ethnicity in an American context

I can also accept the term "Black American" to reference an ethnicity within a nationality in relation to say an Igbo-Nigerian. However what I find suspicious in people who try to propagate this agenda is the conspicuous replacement of the this term for "African-American". Its like a Chinese-American or a Korean American running away from the designation "Asian American"

lets just call it what it is. Africa as a continent does not have much to offer "black" people in terms of furthering their struggle nor making a lasting imprint in world affairs and because of this they continue to distance themselves from this struggling continent in the guise of claiming mixed ancestry and all kinds of nonsensical arguements.


If you ask me I think Afro brazilians and Blacks in South America have more claim to that attitude since they are more integrated into their societies in all aspects more so than the "restricted" AA culture in America. At lest they still recognise their African origins more openly instead coming up with some mumbo jumbo designation to compensate for short comings.

morpheus24:

Sub-saharan Africans share very similar genetic information,therefore it is not so necessary for you to know the exact make up only that it comes from a specific region within the continent. West Africans also mixed up per their local proximity so they aren't as "pure'as you might assume. Y-DNA just gives you the closet male ancestor to give you a good starting point.

anylove100:
only nigerians and african people conceive such inferior thoughts.....If White Americans Wish To Return To Europe should they be granted citizenship?)

Jayvarley: Should they be granted Citizenship in African countries? And will they be accepted by the people? Even though they don't speak any African languages?

dasparrow:

We don't want hateful Negros on our continent but rather black folks with good intentions towards us. I experienced first hand whilst residing for over 13 years in the USA how black americans treat continental Africans with so much hatred and scorn. I was one of the many Africans who were on the receiving end of this never ending hate from the black american.

I am all too aware that black people who come from countries were they experienced many years of racial oppression tend to be very hateful of themselves and towards fellow blacks who are not from their country. We have enough issues to deal with on our continent. We don't need outsiders coming to complicate things further for us. I personally don't mind well-intentioned black folks from other parts of the world migrating to Africa but not the racist ones like the many I met while residing in the united states. My 2 cents!

anylove100: only black people ask such silly questions,why should black americans move to africa?is will smith or eddie murphy African? is Bill clinton European or American?

PAPA AFRICA: Grow up guys.

Jayvarley:

I don't understand the point you are trying to make here. The Fathers of African Americans were taken against their to the Americas.
What if some of their descendants want to go back to their Mother land. Is that a problem for you?