Joagbaje: I don't see a reason why any grown man with common sense should criticize a minister for expanding the church building . It's african poverty mentality simply put. And the critics are hypocrites.

2 Kings 6:1-2
And the sons of the prophets said to Elisha, “See now, the place where we dwell with you is too small for us. Please, let us go to the Jordan, and let every man take a beam from there, and let us make there a place where we may dwell.”
So he answered “Go.”,

It's a simple common sense to expand if the place become small . Even if the place is not yet small and you perceive the tendency of over flow soon you start making plans immediately. Is it when rain begin to fall on women and children you start to run to and fro? Haba!

frosbel: I will never forget a redeemed brother many years ago , who told me about the extent of immorality , sexual perversion and abortion among the so called 'holy' sisters. Truly sad. These days it is no more about godly living or holiness, what counts is church membership, and as long as you are seen in church 5 times a week, contributing your tithes and offerings, and spending time that should have been spent with your family to further the empires of MEN , you are right with GOD , a trusted believer to be counted upon. On the contrary, if you are a believer who hardly goes to church and does not pay tithes and offerings yet living a godly live, you are discounted as an unbeliever or backslider. Talk about calling evil good and god evil.

If these people are so godly , why are we not seeing the good fruits in our country, why are the leaders wining and dining with corrupt politicians, supporting political parties, keeping quiet when unjust laws are enacted, and generally doing almost nothing to help the poor ?

World English Dictionary
symbiosis (ˌsɪmbɪˈəʊsɪs, ˌsɪmbaɪˈəʊsɪs)

— n
1. a close and usually obligatory association of two organisms of different species that live together, often to their mutual benefit
2. a similar relationship between interdependent persons or groups

[C19: via New Latin from Greek: a living together; see symbiont ]

symbi'otic

— adj

symbi'otical

— adj


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/symbiotic

Joagbaje: I don't see a reason why any grown man with common sense should criticize a minister for expanding the church building . It's african poverty mentality simply put. And the critics are hypocrites.

2 Kings 6:1-2
And the sons of the prophets said to Elisha, “See now, the place where we dwell with you is too small for us. Please, let us go to the Jordan, and let every man take a beam from there, and let us make there a place where we may dwell.”
So he answered “Go.”,

It's a simple common sense to expand if the place become small . Even if the place is not yet small and you perceive the tendency of over flow soon you start making plans immediately. Is it when rain begin to fall on women and children you start to run to and hfro? Haba!

idnoble135: ^
I dont want to attack his person. I dont do it. But if he truly is a pastor, he needs to learn how to talk. He does have to use crude words to make his points clear.

kemika: Pastor that verse talks about dwelling place not a place to be used only three times or so a year. I think expansion will be better than having a new one at that cost! We all cannot deny how hard it is to see a clean billonair in this country. Do we honestly think ppl like bill gate or Dangote will give to such course instead of fighting malaria, Aids and polio with their hard -earned money? Don't we think the ''dirty' billionairs are thinking they can buy their way to heaven? Cant we correct that mentality?

Joagbaje: I don't see a reason why any grown man with common sense should criticize a minister for expanding the church building . It's african poverty mentality simply put. And the critics are hypocrites.

2 Kings 6:1-2
And the sons of the prophets said to Elisha, “See now, the place where we dwell with you is too small for us. Please, let us go to the Jordan, and let every man take a beam from there, and let us make there a place where we may dwell.”
So he answered “Go.”,

It's a simple common sense to expand if the place become small . Even if the place is not yet small and you perceive the tendency of over flow soon you start making plans immediately. Is it when rain begin to fall on women and children you start to run to and fro? Haba!

Bukwazy: If d lord b 4 him, wu can b against him? No one!!! No b sai dey force u donate, if e dey pain anybody take a bike nd go nd hug a transformer...abi

kemika: Pastor that verse talks about dwelling place not a place to be used only three times or so a year. I think expansion will be better than having a new one at that cost! We all cannot deny how hard it is to see a clean billonair in this country. Do we honestly think ppl like bill gate or Dangote will give to such course instead of fighting malaria, Aids and polio with their hard -earned money? Don't we think the ''dirty' billionairs are thinking they can buy their way to heaven? Cant we correct that mentality?

Kenny4lyfe: @Op sir, that's a good point! Only a poor man will have an issue with what daddy G.O's decision about the convention ground is! Imagine if these same set of people were alive when King Solomon was gathering materials to get the temple's construction underway, they'll be like "He's insane! He's mobilising all our resources to fund church building. A 100% of our annual budget gone to waste". Whereas they've forgotten that as there are corrupt millionaires and billionaires in this country, so are there righteous millionaires and billionaires in this country! I pity them!

Joagbaje:

So are you saying those who indicated to give billion don't have it. There are many oil barons who make honest ,money

Tee-gurlee.:
Are we stil on dz issue?

m.k.o2005:

You know how much this church costs ?- 20 Billion naira !

And how much is Adeboye looking for to build the new auditorium for God ?


God help us

maclatunji:

Really? How honest is "honest" money? Then again, do honest barons throw money on buildings? I doubt... they invest in people. This I am sure of.

Then again, isn't it only right for clergy who ideally should reflect greater morality to ask for donations and leave it to the individuals in question to decide how much they want to contribute be it N1 or N1 billion?

Joagbaje:

Jesus took security seriously, he had sword , he dodge ,he escaped when needs arose. He kept away from public when there was threat


John 10:39
Therefore they sought again to take him:but he escaped out of their hand,

Joagbaje:

Jesus took security seriously, he had sword , he dodge ,he escaped when needs arose. He kept away from public when there was threat



John 10:39
Therefore they sought again to take him:but he escaped out of their hand,

Pastor Kun:

It's really a shame that muslim fundamentalist like maclatunji is expressing more knowledge of morals than a leading figure in the Nigerian church establishment. The extent of the damage these merchandisers of the gospel are doing to christianity is best left imagined.

Goshen360: Every Christian need a DOWNLOAD OF THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH INTO THEIR LIVES to dis-infect themselves from what they have been taught in the past. It doesn't matter who your teachers are, the Berean Christians must challenge every teachings of Paul the Apostle so they can hold fast what is that good and acceptable unto God.

Kenny4lyfe:
GENERAL is a prefix to OVERSEER! English!

mens dept: Adeboye is a benefitting from the chaos called Nigeria. He even stated recently that he would rather keep quiet about things than say anything, so as to not "offend" anyone.

You see, they are all part of the problem. Why rock the boat when you are in the captains cabin?

Meanwhile we still dey on gen.

Too BAD Nigerians, too bad for una

Folksyharry:

you got it wrong. Chief Overseer in the passage is same as General Overseer. So if any man says he is a general overseer, he is saying he is Jesus Christ. Go back to the passage(1Peter 5:1-4) and read it again.

Where did you get your Chief Overseer from please?
What the Bible say is "Chief Shepherd"! Jesus is the Chief Shepherd, He is The Vine we are the branches {John 15:5}. Think of it as the army heirachy; cadet, sergeant, corporal, lieutenant, general, major, major general etc. These units are defined by their sizes!
General overseer implies he's not just oversee-ing a church but many churches, there are regional and state overseers as well!
So, there's nothing to argue about here!