omonnakoda:
I think the problem is people use the term "Lagos" interchangeably and erroneously.The census is about the Colony of Lagos NOT Lagos STATE as we know it today. Let us be clear about that!! Lagos state today inludes Epe and Ikorodu(Ijebu territories) which were NOT part of the census.
I really don't see how you can come to the conclusion that; "the population of Oyo is even higher than the Ijebu's in Lagos".
Firstly the census was in 1898 not today.
Secondly which "Lagos" ,Lagos State or the Former Colony. Let logic prevail!!
Most "Lagos" Ijebus were fishermen and many crossed the lagoon frequently from Aja,Badore,Lekki to Ikorodu,Bayeku,Igbogbo etc. They were unlikely to be counted in any Lagos Census but today have several agboles on the Island. Don't forget that as of 1891 the Ijebus had not signed any treaty with the British!!

@ the bolded - that was exactly my thoughts, hence why I asked who the "Eko tribes" are. I know the Ijebu's also had settlements in Lagos Island, around the Idumagbo area. My pops grew up there and he's a proper Eko guy.

So who are the "Eko tribe?" I guess they were alluding to the Saros and Amaros. The Bini's only had a war camp in Lagos and in 1891, I doubt they were up to 0.5% of the population.

Tony Spike:

My bad! I meant to mention Ijebus...

Reading different account of the Yoruba wars, the Ijebus were the first to control the trade routes because those routes were in the Ijebu territories and were charging a lot. Infact most of the present Ijebu rich men notably the Balogun families made their riches from this ventures and slave trading.

Another alternative route was that of the Egba territories. The Ekitis and Ijesas were allowed to bring in their ammunitions through this territories since they were allies but prevented the Ibadans. Egba people like Madam Efunseitan and Madam Tinubu became very rich as a middlemen.

olu_kenzo :


Ah. naptu2 has done this before and I conceed better understanding to him. What is however plain is the that like in Ile-ife, the oba of Lagos is just a mere regent. Hence he owns no land except the ones conceeded to him by the landowners.

We await naptu2.

Alright, bruddah.

Following the thread.

ichidodo: Stop crying.Lagos is no man's land.

Go the oba of lagos palace and say lagos is a no man's land and see if u come out alive.

ichidodo: But are the inhabitants homogenous? Are they alone in their occupancy of lagos? if not who are they co habiting with? what are their numbers in comparison.That the names are yorubas,d chiefs yorubas etc doesn't change anything afterall most of the names of important places on d Island have bini origins.

Bearing in mind that the posh part of Lagos are minority, most of the people from other parts of Nigeria I know that grew up in the "real" Lagos state speak Yoruba and act Yoruba. That shows more assimilation and not the other way round.

ShymmexLion:

Eweso at the bolded!!

Err...I don't know if they did or not. However, from everything I've read, the Egba's have always been a thorn in the flesh of the Ijebu's, especially the Owu's. I think it's like a cat and mouse relationship.

Regardless, that doesn't negate the greatness and achievements of the ever war-like Egba people and the shrewdness of the Ijebu merchants. We're the closest in Yorubaland and kind of like siamese twins.

Yes o! Emi omo alagemo meridilogun. I doubt shymex knows any of that. lol.

On the egba issue, I'll make a copy of those journals when next I visit the 'rents.

Did you know a woman was once the awujale?

olu_kenzo :
No, the Ijebus were the middlemen, dealing mostly in clothing materials, arms, European products and of course slaves.



The ijebus have always been elites and thus weren't so impressed with British whence they came. They refused to allow the missionaries through the town calling it an abomination, they also ordered the egbas not to harbour them.

The egbas couldn't muster the level of ijebu courage and hence were shoved aside. The Awujale then ordered the alake to bring the mud house where the British were received on His head. This stunt didn't happen because war broke out later and the ijebus, though gallant in battle, lost to the superior fire power of her Majesty's army.

Please do not distort history. The Egbas welcomed the missionaries/ colonists because they have just escaped being destroyed by the Ibadans and Ijebus who were busy selling them as slaves. Having just settled in Abeokuta in batches, they needed allies and this they got in the missionaries who were welcomed in their midst.
Rev. Henry Townsend who built the first church in Abeokuta/Nigeria and started Iwe Irohin Yoruba (the 1st newspaper in Nigeria) ordered ammunitions and the then modern arms for the Egbas, thereby making them making the Egbas superpower. Many Egbas were also rich dealing in fire arms like the Ijebus. Many of the Egba warriors were mostly christian Baloguns eg Okenla
At no time in Abeokuta ie from 1830 were the Egbas subgated to any other Yoruba groups, not Ijebus or the Ibadans.

odua son: Too much of akpu and ogbono soup is not good for the brain

I was here to learn

teetee123:

Please do not distort history. The Egbas welcomed the missionaries/ colonists because they have just escaped being destroyed by the Ibadans and Ijebus who were busy selling them as slaves. Having just settled in Abeokuta in batches, they needed allies and this they got in the missionaries who were welcomed in their midst.
Rev. Henry Townsend who built the first church in Abeokuta/Nigeria and started Iwe Irohin Yoruba (the 1st newspaper in Nigeria) ordered ammunitions and the then modern arms for the Egbas, thereby making them making the Egbas superpower. Many Egbas were also rich dealing in fire arms like the Ijebus. Many of the Egba warriors were mostly christian Baloguns eg Okenla
At no time in Abeokuta ie from 1830 were the Egbas subgated to any other Yoruba groups, not Ijebus or the Ibadans.

I don't mean no harm. These things happened before any of us were born and one thing I have come to discover is that, different people bear different accounts of such events. Usually, the most flowery about them and theirs.

More so, a logical perusal of your account in bold, corroborates my point.

Doff_Man:

Bearing in mind that the posh part of Lagos are minority, most of the people from other parts of Nigeria I know that grew up in the "real" Lagos state speak Yoruba and act Yoruba. That shows more assimilation and not the other way round.

That we speak and act English doesnt mean the English own the land we occupy.

odua son: Go the oba of lagos palace and say lagos is a no man's land and see if u come out alive.

odua son: Go the oba of lagos palace and say lagos is a no man's land and see if u come out alive.

To prove my notion, what is d name of the area @ which his palace is located, is it a yoruba name or a bini name? If it is d former eko belongs to d yorubas but if it is d latter then Eko is nobody's land.

Eko o ni baje sha!

lagos is still NO MANS LAND no matter what u yab here,my people own lagos,u can kiss my dogs as$ if that pisses u off

ichidodo: To prove my notion, what is d name of the area @ which his palace is located, is it a yoruba name or a bini name? If it is d former eko belongs to d yorubas but if it is d latter then Eko is nobody's land.

Lmao omo ibo= loudmouth+empty chest beating.
Wetin omo nna wan go find for oba's palace

pazienza: Isn't lagos colony the same thing as today's south west with little or no difference? I think the whole yoruba south west as we know it today, was once called lagos colony, they were never part of southern nigeria, until they were amalgamated with southern Nigeria, they are an appendage to the people of the east and edo, just as the bamenda people later became an appendage to eastern nigeria. Yorubas were not southern nigerians from the beginning.

no way. lagos was lagos colony. and yorubaland i.e abeokuta, ibadan, osogbo akure and even benin was 'protectorate of western province

odua son: Lmao omo ibo= loudmouth+empty chest beating.
Wetin omo nna wan go find for oba's palace

You know y'dont have d monopoly of insults just answer my question or maybe i am correct so you result to name calling. No?

ichidodo: So what is the relevance of this thread? Is it a rejoinder put out by our insecured civilised Yoruba slaves that Lagos actually belongs to them (of which the reality on ground says otherwise)? I get am before before no be property my yoruba people.

,,,,,,,,,,,bro am veri sorri buh yhu r a fool

ichidodo: You know y'dont have d monopoly of insults just answer my question or maybe i am correct so you result to name calling. No?

shebi you want to meet the obas and tell them lagos is a no man's land well it's time to exhibit your ibo braveness,here is their contact numbers.

POST
PHONE NUMBER
A
CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMEN
1.
Oba of Lagos
Oba Riliwanu Babatunde Akiolu I
Permanent Chairman
01-7617766
2.
Olu of Ikeja
Oba Raufu Adeniyi Matemi Amore
Vice Chairman
08023393021
3.
Oba S. A. A. Oyefusi
(Oguntade II)
Ayangburen of Ikorodu
Vice Chairman
08033181482
08033331986
4.
Oba A. O. Adesanya
Alara of Ilara
Vice Chairman
08038380790
5.
De Aholu Menu-Toyi I
Akran of Badagry Kingdom
Vice Chairman
08033442083
B
FIRST CLASS OBAS
Lagos Division
1.
Oba Saheed A. Elegushi
(Kusenla III)
Elegushi of Ikateland
2.
Oba Tijani Adetunji Akinloye
Ojomu of Ajiranland
7758788
08022245767
3.
Oba Abiodun Idowu Oniru
Oniru of Iruland
08033069922
2615612
4.
Oba Yinusa Ayeni
Onisiwo of Abagbo & Tomaro
08033105840
8121068,
5.
Oba Ganiyu Okeyide Odesanya
Oloto of Otto and Mainland
2666437
6.
Oba Patrick Ibikunle Fafunwa-Onikoyi
Onikoyi of Lagos
08033002766
7.
Chief T. I. Jinadu-Eko
Olorogun-Adodo of Lagos
08032114324
8.
Chief Fatai Olumegbon
Olumegbon of Lagos
08023260893
9.
Aromire Onile of Lagos
10.
Chief Tajudeen Gbadesere Eletu
Eletu-Odibo of Lagos.
08033574388
C
IKEJA Division
1.
Oba Lateef Atanda Adams
Olu Agege of Agege
08055101456
08033000937
2.
Oba Lasisi Gbadamosi
Onigando of Igando
08023156264
08075134045
3.
Oba Moroof Adekunle Ojoola
Ojon of Ejigbo
08023295442
4.
Oba Fatai Ayinla Aileru
Olu of Mushin
08056269252
014719413
5.
Oba H.O.A. Kassim-Bashua
Oba of Somolu
08023114944
6.
Oba Samson Alade Balogun
Oba of Egbeda
08051946268
7.
Oba Wahab A. Balogun
Oba of Isheri-Olofin
08033029848
08029684303
8.
Oba Bashiru Oloruntoyin Saliu
Oba of Oworonshoki
08023054966
9.
Oba Fatai Irawo-Ogunsi
Oba of Odi-Olowo
08033020349
D
Epe Division
1.
Oba Kamorudeen Animashaun
Oloja of Epe
08055232586
0805045555
2.
Oba J.O.S. Ogunsanya
Aladegunshebi of Odoragunshen
08055963365
3.
Oba R. I. Balogun
Elejinrin of Ejinrin
08033000337
08058197854
4.
Oba Adegboyega Adefowora Adegboyega
Alaketu of Ketu
08033512059
08028266003
5.
Oba Rafiu Olusegun Salami
Onibeju of Ibeju
08054426322
07031545197
6.
Oba Babatunde Ogunlaja
Aladeshonyin of Naforija
08054715131
08023014732
070315197
7.
Oba G. A. Adegbesan
Onise of Ise
08032245712
08054733206
8.
Oba Michael A. Onakoya
Orijeru of Igbooye
08024548306
9.
Oba S. O. A. Bamgbopa
(Eshinlokun 1)
Olu of Epe
E
Badagry Division
1.
Oba Babatunde Lawal
Onigbanko of Igbankoland
08023192247
08023656577
2.
Aholu Gbedite Ayaton
Aholu of Ajido
08076264938
3.
Olojo of Ojo [Vacant]
4.
Oba N. A. Akinyemi
Alabirun of Ikaare
08056502250
08023192245
5.
Oba Mobadenle O. Oyekan
Onilado of Ilado and Inagbe Island
08023431873
6.
Oba M. A. Ashafa
Onijanikin of Ijanikin
08033228342
7.
Ofori of Ibeshe [Vacant]
8.
Oba Israel Adewale Okoya
Oba of Ibereko
08077545886
9.
Oba Abideen Adekanbi Durosinmi
Osolu of Irewe
08054460780
F
Ikorodu Division
1.
Oba J. O. Fatola
Adeboruwa of Igbogbo
07034915920
2.
Oba F. A. Oresanya
Alajede of Ijede
08033048232
3.
Oba M. A. Bakare-Agoro
Ranodu of Imota
08037130108
4.
Oba of Ipakodo [Vacant]
5.
Oba A.O.A. Oyebo
(Oyebo II)
Oba of Egbin
6.
Oba Richard Abayomi Ogunsanya
Olubeshe of Ibeshe
08076867400
7.
Oba of Isiu [Vacant]
8.
Chief K.H.A. Oshisanya
Aro of Ikorodu
08026950716
9.
Chief Williams Adebisi Adejo
Olisa of Imota

igboezue: lagos is still NO MANS LAND no matter what u yab here,my people own lagos,u can kiss my dogs as$ if that pisses u off

,,,,,,,,,,,,no b ya fault na because of ya blooda dt brought yhu to lagos to av a view of d famous yoruba city LAGOS

only shymexxlion and tony spike are making sense on this thread.
trolls/tribalists, let non yorubas learn one or two things name haba

Asolab: ,,,,,,,,,,,bro am veri sorri buh yhu r a fool

So am correct then, yorubas owned lagos before before.

ichidodo: So am correct then, yorubas owned lagos before before.

can we also say hausas own kano before before

While we black people are fighting over na-me-get-this-land-nor-be-you our white FELLOW human beings are making strides in creativity and innovation towards new items that we will buy and use to swagger among our less fortunate black brothers who do not have access to the white man's latest gadgets.

How much COCOA do you think is grown in Switzerland, which is arguably renowned for the best chocolates as well as NESTLE company?
How much COCOA is grown in Britain, home to Bournvita?
How many diamond mines are there in Belgium, the main centre for diamond trade?

Simply PATHETIC and childish as Lord Lugard noted about our "ancestors" over 100 years ago!!!

ichidodo: So am correct then, yorubas owned lagos before before.

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,even uptill naw

odua abeg stp rplyin fools u ar makin ur sef stupid

odua son: shebi you want to meet the obas and tell them lagos is a no man's land well it's time to exhibit your ibo braveness,here is their contact numbers.

POST
PHONE NUMBER
A
CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMEN
1.
Oba of Lagos
Oba Riliwanu Babatunde Akiolu I
Permanent Chairman
01-7617766
2.
Olu of Ikeja
Oba Raufu Adeniyi Matemi Amore
Vice Chairman
08023393021
3.
Oba S. A. A. Oyefusi
(Oguntade II)
Ayangburen of Ikorodu
Vice Chairman
08033181482
08033331986
4.
Oba A. O. Adesanya
Alara of Ilara
Vice Chairman
08038380790
5.
De Aholu Menu-Toyi I
Akran of Badagry Kingdom
Vice Chairman
08033442083
B
FIRST CLASS OBAS
Lagos Division
1.
Oba Saheed A. Elegushi
(Kusenla III)
Elegushi of Ikateland
2.
Oba Tijani Adetunji Akinloye
Ojomu of Ajiranland
7758788
08022245767
3.
Oba Abiodun Idowu Oniru
Oniru of Iruland
08033069922
2615612
4.
Oba Yinusa Ayeni
Onisiwo of Abagbo & Tomaro
08033105840
8121068,
5.
Oba Ganiyu Okeyide Odesanya
Oloto of Otto and Mainland
2666437
6.
Oba Patrick Ibikunle Fafunwa-Onikoyi
Onikoyi of Lagos
08033002766
7.
Chief T. I. Jinadu-Eko
Olorogun-Adodo of Lagos
08032114324
8.
Chief Fatai Olumegbon
Olumegbon of Lagos
08023260893
9.
Aromire Onile of Lagos
10.
Chief Tajudeen Gbadesere Eletu
Eletu-Odibo of Lagos.
08033574388
C
IKEJA Division
1.
Oba Lateef Atanda Adams
Olu Agege of Agege
08055101456
08033000937
2.
Oba Lasisi Gbadamosi
Onigando of Igando
08023156264
08075134045
3.
Oba Moroof Adekunle Ojoola
Ojon of Ejigbo
08023295442
4.
Oba Fatai Ayinla Aileru
Olu of Mushin
08056269252
014719413
5.
Oba H.O.A. Kassim-Bashua
Oba of Somolu
08023114944
6.
Oba Samson Alade Balogun
Oba of Egbeda
08051946268
7.
Oba Wahab A. Balogun
Oba of Isheri-Olofin
08033029848
08029684303
8.
Oba Bashiru Oloruntoyin Saliu
Oba of Oworonshoki
08023054966
9.
Oba Fatai Irawo-Ogunsi
Oba of Odi-Olowo
08033020349
D
Epe Division
1.
Oba Kamorudeen Animashaun
Oloja of Epe
08055232586
0805045555
2.
Oba J.O.S. Ogunsanya
Aladegunshebi of Odoragunshen
08055963365
3.
Oba R. I. Balogun
Elejinrin of Ejinrin
08033000337
08058197854
4.
Oba Adegboyega Adefowora Adegboyega
Alaketu of Ketu
08033512059
08028266003
5.
Oba Rafiu Olusegun Salami
Onibeju of Ibeju
08054426322
07031545197
6.
Oba Babatunde Ogunlaja
Aladeshonyin of Naforija
08054715131
08023014732
070315197
7.
Oba G. A. Adegbesan
Onise of Ise
08032245712
08054733206
8.
Oba Michael A. Onakoya
Orijeru of Igbooye
08024548306
9.
Oba S. O. A. Bamgbopa
(Eshinlokun 1)
Olu of Epe
E
Badagry Division
1.
Oba Babatunde Lawal
Onigbanko of Igbankoland
08023192247
08023656577
2.
Aholu Gbedite Ayaton
Aholu of Ajido
08076264938
3.
Olojo of Ojo [Vacant]
4.
Oba N. A. Akinyemi
Alabirun of Ikaare
08056502250
08023192245
5.
Oba Mobadenle O. Oyekan
Onilado of Ilado and Inagbe Island
08023431873
6.
Oba M. A. Ashafa
Onijanikin of Ijanikin
08033228342
7.
Ofori of Ibeshe [Vacant]
8.
Oba Israel Adewale Okoya
Oba of Ibereko
08077545886
9.
Oba Abideen Adekanbi Durosinmi
Osolu of Irewe
08054460780
F
Ikorodu Division
1.
Oba J. O. Fatola
Adeboruwa of Igbogbo
07034915920
2.
Oba F. A. Oresanya
Alajede of Ijede
08033048232
3.
Oba M. A. Bakare-Agoro
Ranodu of Imota
08037130108
4.
Oba of Ipakodo [Vacant]
5.
Oba A.O.A. Oyebo
(Oyebo II)
Oba of Egbin
6.
Oba Richard Abayomi Ogunsanya
Olubeshe of Ibeshe
08076867400
7.
Oba of Isiu [Vacant]
8.
Chief K.H.A. Oshisanya
Aro of Ikorodu
08026950716
9.
Chief Williams Adebisi Adejo
Olisa of Imota

Is it that you dont have my answer? Are you trully a lagosian? Then how can you not answer but drop names and numbers? Dont you know your history?

Nice one this tread , I think we will just need to ignore. Some phools claiming lagos is no man land mean while I read many of their article claiming majority houses in v.I own by ibos 'well' is not a crime for people like them to dream big at all " keep dreaming o O

ichidodo: Is it that you dont have my answer? Are you trully a lagosian? Then how can you not answer but drop names and numbers? Dont you know your history?

,,,;,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,dats a proof for yhu bro,,,,,,,,,,,,,,if dy born yhu well call dem n tell dem lagos s no man land

ichidodo: So am correct then, yorubas owned lagos before before.

Before before when exactly

- Adam & Eve's creation, as in Lagos is the Garden of Eden
or
- the point in evolution when primates became men

Asolab: ,,,;,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,dats a proof for yhu bro,,,,,,,,,,,,,,if dy born yhu well call dem n tell dem lagos s no man land

That is no proof. Lagos is no man's land.

igboezue: lagos is still NO MANS LAND no matter what u yab here,my people own lagos,u can kiss my dogs as$ if that pisses u off

People like you are next to be deported to Biafra by Fashola.