GRAILELEM: Gay people are better christians than many straights i have interacted with.

esere826: Well, I am no fan of some male sticking sticks into another male's behind
I cringe at the tought, and think as much folks as possible should stop..... but that's my thinking

"but, let me show you a new level of grace"
For any Nigerian xtian homosexual facing this dilenma, this is how I would expect you could reason it:

-Can one be a xtian pastor and commit serial adultery with his church members?
-Can one be a xtian brother and nack every girl in his part?
-Can one be a xtian sister and exchange her punni for school fees and pocket money?
-Can one be a xtian deacon and steal the commonwealth of children yet unborn, and donate part of the "loot' to the church?
-Can one be a xtian elder and steal the votes of his people?
-Can one be a xtian pastor and stab his wife to death in cold blood?
-can one be a xtian a r.a.pe girls both underaged and overaged?
-Can one be a xtian missionary and capture, trade, buy and own slaves?
-Can a xtian say that others cannot be judged, and yet turn around to you to judge you? ,..........uhnnnnnnnn


...if they that have done these things have been accepted by the xtian community 'and probably by christ', then who am I to condemn you
(if i choose to condemn you, it would not be from a religious viewpoint, but from a cultural one)

rigormortis: can you give birth and still be a virgin?

Hezron Lorraine: aw come I didn't see this.

Well,the bible made us understand Mary gave birth as a virgin.


@Everyone,thanks for your kind contributions.

joel lala: @OP, sorry but you cant be a christain( or else maybe by mouth) and still be gay.

What has the act of darkness have to do with light

no vex but i leave you with these verses.

Kindly ponder on them okay:

Romans 1:21-32:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;


Also,

1 Kings 14:24:

'There were even male shrine prostitutes in the land; the people engaged in all the detestable practices of the nations the LORD had driven out before the Israelites'

To crown it up read,

1 Corinthians 6:9

'Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality':


The sad thing is that gays, lesbians and all forms of homosexuals know about all these verses..they know that God does not like that act of homosexuality but they are looking for all means to hide themselves from their shameful acts, now they want to hide their acts in the disguise of being christains.

I want you to know that i can not force you to change your acts but only you can make that bold steps by yourself.

Always remember that God loves you..

Ihedinobi: An interesting question, Hezron Lorraine. It does have merit in today's reality. The question is very like "can one be a Christian and be heterosexual?" Or like "can one be a Christian and feel desire?" Obviously one can. The trouble is with what one does with the desire they have.

I'll break a rule of mine, partly because the info I'm giving here is already on NL, to help clarify my answer. I'm a Christian and I still find women veeeeery attractive. I still find the desire to bed every hottie that happens along there. Some days - fewer nowadays in fact - the desire is almost overwhelming, other days it's like a dull awareness, yet other days it's hardly there at all. But, that I feel the hunger to be promiscuous has not made me less a Christian. What would destroy the Work of Christ unto Salvation in me would be my indulging this desire, my feeding this hunger. Believe me, many times I would rather just go out and hunt and take down one or two hotties, but I don't. Why not? Not merely because I shouldn't, but because I find a real desire opposing the one for the luscious females I see every fricking day.

Each time that I do not indulge that desire to be promiscuous, the desire to be chaste grows stronger. I literally change. I kid you not, my brother. It is the very meaning of the Scripture that tells us that we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord. The Lord is working to make us exactly like Jesus Christ the Righteous Man. We, by virtue of being born.of the Spirit, already possess the seed of His Nature. The task of the Spirit of God is to grow that Seed into the Mighty Tree that fills every part of our lives pushing out all the filth and corruption of our Adamic nature and producing abiding fruit unto the Glory of God the Father. And He fulfills that task by everytime enabling us to say No to our natural desires that are contra Christ and yes to all that is Christ.

So yes, one can be a Christian and still possess a physical body with sexual desires for its own gender. Homosexuality is no more a perversion than covetuousness or greed or pride or promiscuity. But the Christian is the one who "keep[s] under [his] body, and bring[s] it into subjection", I'm sure you know to Whom.

I have deliberately answered the question in your title and ignored the op. I did read it , the op, that is, but the errors in it are, well, too obvious for any special attention. For example, that we each have an individual walk with God is only one part of the truth, we also together have a collective walk with God. We are responsible to God for one another. This race that we run is not the one where the one who gets there first wins the prize, it's the one where the one who gets there first must answer for the others yet to arrive: there is no prize until we all get home.

Another example: we can never lose our salvation. Of course we can't but would you say one is saved from sin if they are still insistent on remaining enslaved to it? What is salvation butbeing lifted above the corruption of sin in our mortal nature? So that one has been saved and can never become unsaved is no reason whatsoever to say that we may yet abide in sin. We literally cannot continue in sin when we have been saved, we will find it impossible to.

Finding an accommodating church? Well, ther were churches that became accommodating of all manner of things for whom our dear Lord had some very frightening things to say in Revelation. You could look for yourself in the first three chapters of the book. Remember Who it was that was speaking before attempting to dismiss anything He said there. No Christian is ever comfortable with having his sin accommodated. Ever! We Christians have a longing for judgment and a strong phobia for iniquity.

To every struggling lesbian and homosexual out there, we live in a world fraught with corruption and perversion, but we need not give ourselves up to it. What we need desperately to do is to bring our struggle to Christ. There is real, very real power in the Name of Jesus, real salvation in His shed blood. You are not told to fight alone, to "repress" yourself, you are offered power, just like everyone else is, to take control of your desires - to rein them in and bring them into the service of the Lord Christ. It is not an impossible job or one that you must do alone. Around the world are millions who are in the same fight as you. And each time we touch as we're doing now we get a good deal stronger and win an even bigger battle than the last.

God's Grace be with all God's Children.

Classicman47: To all these DIM-WITS quoting bible verses.....i say u better SHOVE IT down ur SHITHOLES!!! Idiots eagerly waiting to jump on anyone with a difrent orientation because they think they are better. Fools!!!!
U forget dat d same bible condenming homosexuality also frowns at any form of unrighteousness(including any other type of sexual immorality). Yet everybody becums a pastor as soon as dis issue is raised....smh
i tell u this..if d gays are supposed to go to hell....then rest assured dat a Special part of hell is currently being prepared for all of u miserable HYPOCRITES!!! Nonsense!

mhozzis: PLS I'll LIKE TO KNOW, ARE PEOPLE BORN GAY OR THEY LEARN/INFLUENCED TO BE GAY.

imotondo:

they are influenced usually at the tender age by mostly matured gay people. Secondly, there is a spirit that possesses them once they do it for the first time unless tthe kid has a strong christian background

Most of them were forced into it as students especially in our boarding schools by their seniors and with time, it becomes a norm

Parents should endevour to have close relationships with their kids so they can open up to them earlier. When the bible said'' train up a child in the way he should grow so when they are old they'll not depart from it'' God knew these will come up. Remember he sees the future , more reason we shouldn't neglect his words ( the devil will always bring in the counterfiet).

Hezron Lorraine: Let's also see how some people become gay:
[b]1.)There are those born with full homosexual
desires.they discover at a very tender age,though
they may have no idea what it means until later in
life.these types have mostly never known
heterosexual feelings and have always responded to
same-sex attractions.

2.)There are those who find out after years of
already being straight,they've always liked the
opposite sex,later on they discover their desires
moving towards the same-sex,they respond so well
to this new attraction and find themselves incapable
of going back to the opposite sex.

3.)There are those even while having feelings for the
opposite sex,when faced with homosexual
advances,they discover they can't withdraw or find
any urge to withdraw.

4.)There are those who are bisexual,they are
capable of responding to attractions from both sex.

5.)Some have to be abused s.exually.after this
Intimate torture,they slowly get hooked in homosexuality and end up enjoying it.

6,)There's any category,these ones are very
straight,they tend to enjoy homosexual
intimacy.they hardly and rarely feel any emotional
feelings to the same-sex like the opposite.
[/b]

azeezlateefah: I pity christians! well who cares...All I know is my precious ISLAm forbade It...The OP Have a point even getting prooves from the bible...The bible had been edited the translators....which makes its corrupt! Every thing is clearly stated in the QURAN, the do and don't is clearly stated....May God Guide us to the RIGHT PATH... Ameen....

Pedro Amada: Its not normal, its not moral the anus is meant for defecation or shitting and not for sex. Have you ever seeing gay animals? No, this is the work of the devil, some ignorant people from the west under the total control of extreme secular deception think otherwise