Mzflexydeeva:
my dearest friend how r u and how have u. Been?? Wats been happening & wat did I miss? Fill me in so I can flow

I've missed you dear. I've bn fine o but I will fill you in only on one condition: if you promise that you're back for good and won't disappear again

Mzflexydeeva:
yes oooo! Permanent tinz only....... how r u
Ikve not seen salc yet ooooo

Yesooo, so will be your stay here ooo. I'm fine. SalC was on Front Page yesterday, hip hip hip . She may just have been a little busy with praying for the Holy souls yesterday, maybe tired this morning from the exercise.

Kamsified:

I've missed you dear. I've bn fine o but I will fill you in only on one condition: if you promise that you're back for good and won't disappear again

I promise ooo! Will just be a bit off during d day cos of work and also cos my office lacks network but on d average i'm giving up my. Vanishing talent so wat did I miss?

Mzflexydeeva:
I promise ooo! Will just be a bit off during d day cos of work and also cos my office lacks network but on d average i'm giving up my. Vanishing talent so wat did I miss?

so many things...

Ubenedictus:



it seems i didn't see this yesterday....

Something tells me that if i were at that wedding and was actually looking at your big head on the said day, i wouldn't say "hi i'm ubenedictus". Been anonymous is one of the things i enjoy about nairaland.

striktlymi:

why you dey shine your big white teeth?

Mzflexydeeva:
I promise ooo! Will just be a bit off during d day cos of work and also cos my office lacks network but on d average i'm giving up my. Vanishing talent so wat did I miss?

syncan and salc are married to each other but they keep denying it because salc wants to keep sowing her wild oats.

striklymi drives like idiot no 1
Kamsified and rich4god are hugging non Christian hug
Italo is seeing visions in church
Ubenedictus wants to be anonymous but doesn't mind putting his picture up as dp. He is alao dodging answering how many kids strik shld have
I have greedy prayer points


what did I forget

babestell:


syncan and salc are married to each other but they keep denying it because salc wants to keep sowing her wild oats.

striklymi drives like idiot no 1
Kamsified and rich4god are hugging non Christian hug
Italo is seeing visions in church
Ubenedictus wants to be anonymous but doesn't mind putting his picture up as dp. He is alao dodging answering how many kids strik shld have
I have greedy prayer points


what did I forget

lol... I think you forgot the person who Italo is seeing in his vision

Ubenedictus:


when i said i would discuss this yesterday i forgot it was all saints day, my day only opened up this night.

First there is no text book answers to your question, these are topics that I expect catholic couples to excercise a well informed conscience.

There is a point in natural law from which the church always operate from, i.e marriage is naturally order for procreation and the continued existence of our species. Scriptures put a premuim on having kids that "full the quiver". It is with this in mind that there is a promise in wedding ceremonies that say "i will accept all the children that God sends me", (that is a carefully crafted statement).

Then there is the reality on ground, several factors have to be considered, like the financial angle, mental angle, the physical angle, the emotional angle.... Then there is such a thing in catholicism as "Responsible parenthood". It is unwise to give birth to all possible kids one can bear, instead the couples must take into consideration the reality on ground an make a decision on how many kids they can bear and cater for.


Personally i think the churches teaching on this is wise, let each man and woman decide for themselves the number of kids they can bear and cater for. Personally i think your friend may have a good point, the mental picture i have of you seems to say you should be able to cater adequately for more than two kids (supposing your patner is as fit as a fiddle), your china's-one-child-family plan runs the risk of been looked at as been closed to life and probably more interested in looking at children as burdens.

I may be wrong in accessing you, but this issue is principally for the couples in question, there are many couples among whom i live who i think should have only 2 kids(personal opinion), there are others who have 5-6 kids who i believe got their stuff right. I also know a family with 11 kids all of whom i am happy to know. If your friend has a wife who shares his vision for children and she is mentally, physically and emotionally fit for that many (with maybe some cousins and grand parents to help out) and is financially stable with income that is able to take care adequately of those kids then i say Goodluck to him...big families can be a blessing.


There is only a right way to look at this there is no right answer and i do not discuss my opinion on the number of kids with couples i know. That is a decision for them to make.

It does seem selfish to settle for one or two kids when one can afford to take care of at least three but experience has shown that it is relatively easier to cater for the needs of a small family than a large one.

The needs of children go beyond our material existence but the material is very important because sometimes it affects the spiritual if it is not properly managed.

I have this friend who earns a bit over 140k. Ordinarily this should be enough to have a nice family of four (to include two children) if he had thought about planning ahead for his family before he even got married.

A proper plan should include opening an account for his children and setting aside an amount every month for them while he is still a bachelor.

This buffer savings would have effectively sought out some material needs of the children when they start coming hence enabling him to focus more on their mental and spiritual development.

This he did not do, like very many Nigerians. Despite the lack of proper planning, he went ahead to have 3 children. The cost of school fees alone for one child is enough to make any low income eaner think himself to death.

In such situation, I guess your opinion may be that the dude stop at 3 and device a strategy to meet the needs of the children.

In a case where the individual can watch out for the material needs of more than two children but decides to stick to two in order to cater, adequately for their mental and spiritual upbringing; would you consider this selfish and wrong?

Rich4god:
so many things...

sounds like i'm seeing things

babestell:


syncan and salc are married to each other but they keep denying it because salc wants to keep sowing her wild oats.

striklymi drives like idiot no 1
Kamsified and rich4god are hugging non Christian hug
Italo is seeing visions in church
Ubenedictus wants to be anonymous but doesn't mind putting his picture up as dp. He is alao dodging answering how many kids strik shld have
I have greedy prayer points


what did I forget

okokobioko!!! Men see gist everywhere. Hmmmmmm! Wat of pope? Is he on leave?? Well well well I guess I won't wanna be left out again. So who is gonna be my spiritual director & follow up leader?

Rich4god:
lol... I think you forgot the person who Italo is seeing in his vision

hahahhahahahahahahhahahhaha

babestell:


syncan and salc are married to each other but they keep denying it because salc wants to keep sowing her wild oats.

striklymi drives like idiot no 1
Kamsified and rich4god are hugging non Christian hug
Italo is seeing visions in church
Ubenedictus wants to be anonymous but doesn't mind putting his picture up as dp. He is alao dodging answering how many kids strik shld have
I have greedy prayer points


what did I forget

Lol, . O no n'ulo mara ihe zuru n'ahia. Fake news carrier.

Rich4god:
lol... I think you forgot the person who Italo is seeing in his vision

Can you imagine, something of such magnitude?

In the light of the grace I have received I want to urge each one among you not to exaggerate his real importance. Each of you must judge himself soberly by the standard of the faith God has given him. Just as each of our bodies has several parts and each part has a separate function, so all of us, in union with Christ, form one body, and as parts of it we belong to each other. Our gifts differ according to the grace given us. If your gift is prophecy, then use it as your faith suggests; if administration, then use it for administration; if teaching, then use it for teaching. Let the preachers deliver sermons, the almsgivers give freely, the officials be diligent, and those who do works of mercy do them cheerfully.
Do not let your love be a pretence, but sincerely prefer good to evil. Love each other as much as brothers should, and have a profound respect for each other. Work for the Lord with untiring effort and with great earnestness of spirit. If you have hope, this will make you cheerful. Do not give up if trials come; and keep on praying. If any of the saints are in need you must share with them; and you should make hospitality your special care.----Romans 12:3-13

hmm...today's first reading, what else can i say... just thought of sharing.

Good morning brethren, a splendid day ahead to all.

Syncan:



Lol, . O no n'ulo mara ihe zuru n'ahia. Fake news carrier.

babestell:

If you knew how many people you sent to Ubenedictus profile....

Syncan:
If your gift is prophecy, then use it as your faith suggests; if administration, then use it for administration; if teaching, then use it for teaching. Let the preachers deliver sermons, the almsgivers give freely, the officials be diligent, and those who do works of mercy do them cheerfully.

Let the news casters say news and bring people up to speed.

Seriously this verse is very useful, sometimes we spend our energy trying to be like others forgetting that we can make an impact in our own way. Sometimes I wish I could type and talk with the eloquence of some peeps on this thread but I have realized it isn't my talent nor my calling nor my gift. People like me stay in the background fanning the warriors and providing them lucozade boost!!!

Syncan:



If you knew how many people you sent to Ubenedictus profile....

Oops!!!

babestell:


Let the news casters say news and bring people up to speed.

Seriously this verse is very useful, sometimes we spend our energy trying to be like others forgetting that we can make an impact in our own way. Sometimes I wish I could type and talk with the eloquence of some peeps on this thread but I have realized it isn't my talent nor my calling nor my gift. People like me stay in the background fanning the warriors and providing them lucozade boost!!!

You are so on point @ "spending energy trying to be like others", one could easily get frustrated and often times envious. No one has nothing to offer, even out there they always say "be yourself" for even the world has realized that God has given everyone something. As per your identification of your role, just include lighting the fire for bed time stories.

Mzflexydeeva:
okokobioko!!! Men see gist everywhere. Hmmmmmm! Wat of pope? Is he on leave?? Well well well I guess I won't wanna be left out again. So who is gonna be my spiritual director & follow up leader?

Seeing that you were specific about a director and not directress...though I wonder why...I am inclined to look towards Jnrbayano.

babestell:


Let the news casters say news and bring people up to speed.

Seriously this verse is very useful, sometimes we spend our energy trying to be like others forgetting that we can make an impact in our own way. Sometimes I wish I could type and talk with the eloquence of some peeps on this thread but I have realized it isn't my talent nor my calling nor my gift. People like me stay in the background fanning the warriors and providing them lucozade boost!!!

hahahahhahahhaahhahahah! Wat a lukozadish talent u have. Thank God for providing u wit d financialability to buy fan and lucozade

Syncan:


Seeing that you were specific about a director and not directress...though I wonder why...I am inclined to look towards Jnrbayano.

Don't be inclined yet until you clear your wonderment

striktlymi:


It does seem selfish to settle for one or two kids when one can afford to take care of at least three but experience has shown that it is relatively easier to cater for the needs of a small family than a large one.

The needs of children go beyond our material existence but the material is very important because sometimes it affects the spiritual if it is not properly managed.

I have this friend who earns a bit over 140k. Ordinarily this should be enough to have a nice family of four (to include two children) if he had thought about planning ahead for his family before he even got married.

A proper plan should include opening an account for his children and setting aside an amount every month for them while he is still a bachelor.

This buffer savings would have effectively sought out some material needs of the children when they start coming hence enabling him to focus more on their mental and spiritual development.

This he did not do, like very many Nigerians. Despite the lack of proper planning, he went ahead to have 3 children. The cost of school fees alone for one child is enough to make any low income eaner think himself to death.

In such situation, I guess your opinion may be that the dude stop at 3 and device a strategy to meet the needs of the children.

In a case where the individual can watch out for the material needs of more than two children but decides to stick to two in order to cater, adequately for their mental and spiritual upbringing; would you consider this selfish and wrong?

i would consider it "responsible parenthood". I can't sit as judge on another mans conscience, all i can do is inform him about a few principle that shouls inform it and help him with his decision.

The decision on how many kids to have and how many one can cater for still lies with the couple and the cost of taking care of kids is pretty high in an urban enviroment.

Syncan:



If you knew how many people you sent to Ubenedictus profile....

I am just coming from my profile, i wanted to see the apparation only to remember that babestell is radio Katangua alway broadcasting fake news.

Ubenedictus:


I am just coming from my profile, i wanted to see the apparation only to remember that babestell is radio Katangua alway broadcasting fake news.

lol... One day una go make me fall from mtn tower...

Syncan:



If you knew how many people you sent to Ubenedictus profile....

i actually visited his profile... Hoping to see some one with mitre on his head and chasuble covering his body...

Mzflexydeeva:
okokobioko!!! Men see gist everywhere. Hmmmmmm! Wat of pope? Is he on leave?? Well well well I guess I won't wanna be left out again. So who is gonna be my spiritual director & follow up leader?

Just tell kamsy, she will do the needful...

Rich4god:
Just tell kamsy, she will do the needful...

okay den

jnrbayano:




Don't be inclined yet until you clear your wonderment

hmmmmmmm

good people

e be like say i have missed alot


i need to renew my vows