rationalmind:

Hahahaha, shey? I tire o. I also equally dismiss jazz out rightly until I read the story the story of shina rambo. His personal confession. Since then I'll say my stance is agnostic on it. Just try to do a quick google search on it n read.

Its difficult to dismiss the existence of jazz but as platteon said, maybe there are natural explanations we don't just quite know for now. Not that we will just claim they are bullshit when we've not even witnessed one.

rationalmind:

Yea, there is a point which is that, until you do it, I will never take what you said serious about people doing it everywhere.

rationalmind:
Maybe I didn't explain how my friend really told me. He said they were in a joint drinking when an old man came to meet them claiming to possess various charms. He told them the charms he had and they all started laughing at him. The man told them he can prove it and they agreed only on the condition that someone neutral will do it so it doesn't appear he's just playing tricks on them. They all were afraid to test it until someone summoned up courage to put the charm on his left hand and eat the razor blade. It was a new one they just bought. He told me the guy ate it and spitted nothing.

rationalmind:
This was what I told you and you dismissed it saying its common knowledge and various videos on youtube show people doing it. Good. Then you should also do it yourself. Remb it was also that guys first time of ever eating the razor blade.

druid06:

@Plaetton ( Btw, I'm trying to fathom what that moniker means )

How would you explain in scientific term how a traditionalist be it a native doctor giving some protection for cutlasses, knives and broken bottle attack.

This might be out of context so you should bear with me. I used to have a friend who on occasion brags about how impenetrable his hide his towards machetes and bottles and I actually though he was being silly until there was a bet.

The bet was we were going to physically attack with a sharp machete on his azz ( Since that part of the body usual heals quick and contains mostly fat and has very few blood vessels ) and he accepted. I wasn't prepared to go with the bet but he urged me on and so I gave it a try thinking at the back of my mind that what I'm about to do might possibly land me in jail for possibly assault, manslaughter or murder but I was so intoxicated and I went further with my bet.

First, I landed him some small jabs on the bottom area just to be careful and nothing happened. He urged me on and even called me a biitch ( The dude has a weird sense of humour ) for landing such little blows and I got upset and landed more blows harder each time with the machete and nothing seemed to happen. I proceeded to his hand, legs, back region, abdomen and there was not a single cut.

Others dude with me then proceeded with their newly sharped machete on this dude and he was just laughing hysterical. Some minutes later after we've been exhausted with the sheer feeling of disappointment of losing our bet, we all proceeded to exam him and there was not a single scratch/mark on him. His azz and the whole body parts even looked better...lol.. He even bragged about being impenetrable to bullets, shrapnel and whatnot.

How would you explain such miraculous ordeal. Is it Science, meta-physics or his believe in his spirituality?

Also, I've seen individuals who chew broken bottles while swallowing the remnants and there's not a single wound in the mouth region. I have seen a dude who breaks bottles on his head for entertainment and just the fun of it. I've seen people eat kindling charcoal and walk or stand of makeshift fire and there's not a single sign of burnt skin.

aManFromMars: Confusion, mass confusion.. black man is finished.

aManFromMars: Confusion, mass confusion.. black man is finished.

dalaman: My question to all the juju proponents is this, why is it that every thing about juju is never done in the open, why must it be hidden? We have seen what science has done and every thing about it is out in the open, every body can learn about it, try it and modify it if possible. The same can not be said for juju. Personally I have never seen juju at work, I always hear people talk about it, but when I ask more questions I usually get unsatisfying answers. I really do not believe in all these here say stories because if juju is real then how come the white man was able to conquer our ancestors with their ancient guns and stop them from practising their juju tradition by replacing it with the white man's religion? If bullet proof juju is real then why were we conquered with ancient guns? Why didn't the bullet proof juju save our ancestors? Why didn't we use the juju to make the invaders drop their guns and start farming on our lands because some people claim they have the juju that will make you beging to work for them once you come to attack them. Why can't we use juju to develop our lands? We use science and technology to develop ourselves, why can't we use juju if its real?

wiegraf:

Bros, that is mor.onic

wiegraf:

What sort of primary school thinking do you possess?

Ranchhoddas: Answer the call o ye atheists,stop running around,stop beating about the bush, answer the call and see that some things are just beyond science.

rationalmind: .



You don't have to resort to insults. People won't always have to agree.

I still don't agree with most of the things you said but the mere presence of the insults pissed me off replying.

ghostofsparta: @folykaze check up to read and reply my modified post.

FOLYKAZE:

which of your post are you refering to specifically?

FOLYKAZE:

If you were the one that made claim that eating razor blade is a common knowledge, wiegraf would have asked you to prove yourself and if you ignore him like he did, he will turn to bashing, insulting and praising west world including his lord Darwin. Now the ball is in his court, all he can do is searching helplessly for the common knowledge uncommonly and when he cant find help, he employed insults. Typical way of nairaland atheist. They are all losers and barking dogs

MonsieurCoder: @ghostofsparta and @folykaze where do you guys reside?

aManFromMars: Update yourself Bro. The old testament is all about the Jewish God Yahweh and is a lesson for us Christians in this new dispensation on how willing The New Testament God 'Jesus Papa' is willing to fight and protect those He loves.

The Old Testament shouldn't be taken literally, at least the parts that don't make sense. Nobody really died.

FOLYKAZE:

Randi is as foolish as the people bringing it up. I have checked on this site and applied too. So you want me to fly to US with a typed letter for posting, record video and wait till another six month for processing. After that you fly in and out of America for screening and others before the final challenge. Can you finance flying to America pls? I dont know where some people keep their brain when discussing with others.

FOLYKAZE:

This are the answers you should expect from nairaland atheist : intellectual cowards.

- I am not in Nigeria.

- You want to dupe us cuz it involve cost (despite asking them it free).

- I will shoot you dead so dont want to go to jail (this is classic escapism).

- My schedule is tight.

ghostofsparta: And after you have seen and believe, then we can focus on how to properly plot a way on how to tehnologize them into a modern society. Kanoko for instance can be an alternative to motor vehicle since it shortens long distance, so those who are late for work or appointment can just press a button and it does it trick. Egbe in its many versions can be used to teleport death-bound passengers in a soon-to-crash airplane or accidenting bus to a safe spot.

ghostofsparta:

As for me - Yorubaland

Why?

wiegraf:

I do know about talking dolls, invisible bullet proof vests and running faster than bolt. They are all....surprise surprise... impossible. Except to, of course, gullible, foo.lish monkeys like you. I hope that's clear. I hope you don't expect no challenges when you make asinine claims like these, else I think you're in the wrong place.

Now, you show me how any of these things are not nonsense rather than claim some esoteric knowledge or you shut up. You may not have noticed that you and @folly have not addressed any single meaningful criticism yet, yes? So, I'm waiting.

Let me just reiterate, baboons like you deserve no, absolutely NO respect for perpetuating your unadulterated drivel. If you were extracting the useful bits from this, just as secular xtians use 'love thy neighbor' and ignore the rest, it would be a different story (admirable even), but alas that's not the case.

And if you think my not knowing the intricacies of your nonsense amounts to anything to me, well, you may be confused. I don't know those of Islam or xtianity as well, and I'm quite proud of it. Again, I'm not going to waste my time on your drivel, get in line. Wtf do you think are?

ghostofsparta: @FOLYKAZE
In as much as your hypothesis is a brilliant one, an explanation I find sensible, how can one explain a version of APB where the firer himself gets injured? What I mean is A man x grips his loaded pistol aimed at target y who is rendered with this type of ABP YAS. Immidiately man X pulls the trigger, the bullet will have it path reversed inside the muzzle, thus resulting in a catastrophe that get the firer injured. To me this metaphysics way beyond the league of science as we know it.

Ranchhoddas: too much fringe(sci-fi) ...i want you to explain the physics of chewing bottles and not getting injured.

[size=14pt]Michel Lotito[/size]

Michel Lotito (June 15, 1950 - June 25, 2007) was a French entertainer, born in Grenoble, f[i]amous for deliberately consuming indigestible objects.[/i] He came to be known as Monsieur Mangetout ("Mister Eats All".

His performances involved the consumption of metal, glass, rubber and other materials. He disassembled, cut-up, and consumed bicycles, shopping carts, televisions, a Cessna 150, and other items. The Cessna 150 took roughly two years to be "eaten", from 1978 to 1980. He began eating unusual material as a teenager around 16 years of age and performed publicly from 1966.

Lotito died of natural causes on June 25, 2007, ten days after his 57th birthday. He is buried at Grenoble Cemetery.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Lotito

dalaman: My question to all the juju proponents is this, why is it that every thing about juju is never done in the open, why must it be hidden? We have seen what science has done and every thing about it is out in the open, every body can learn about it, try it and modify it if possible. The same can not be said for juju. Personally I have never seen juju at work, I always hear people talk about it, but when I ask more questions I usually get unsatisfying answers. I really do not believe in all these here say stories because if juju is real then how come the white man was able to conquer our ancestors with their ancient guns and stop them from practising their juju tradition by replacing it with the white man's religion? If bullet proof juju is real then why were we conquered with ancient guns? Why didn't the bullet proof juju save our ancestors? Why didn't we use the juju to make the invaders drop their guns and start farming on our lands because some people claim they have the juju that will make you beging to work for them once you come to attack them. Why can't we use juju to develop our lands? We use science and technology to develop ourselves, why can't we use juju if its real?

MonsieurCoder: @ghostofsparta and @folykaze where do you guys reside?

jayriginal:

Let me introduce you all to a certain gentleman with an unusual diet.



Theres nothing about jazz in it if. People have been eating blades, bottles, swallowing swords, walking on coals etc

ghostofsparta:

Have you seen anyone literally vanished in front of you before?

*a friend just called me now to tell me how her grandma (she used to be a core pagan traditionalist but now a deep Christian convert) just teleported a medicine box from her room to the outside gate now, he sound so intrigued on the phone*

Have you seen a little pagan secondary pupil walked through wall?

All these I have seen and many more. So stop trying to equate what we are claiming here with some explainable Sai Baba tricks or Criss Angel illusions.

We are waiting for logicboy03 to join the BBM group I created, there are now 8 Atheists there now. I need one more strong athiests like logicboy03 or you or wiegref to join, then we move on from where last discussed about me arranging proof of any of some listed supernatural powers I've been talking of.