harbiola1: @RoyPcain, Sham shamoun is doing a great job in the life of these christians.
See how he changed Samiri to Samaritan and the dude has gut to bring that here.
They don't do proper research before pasting stuffs here.

They believed Aaron(as) was the one that built the idol and God honored him for it while others were killed for it.

Thank you jare...Samiri was said to be Zimiri in hebrew
www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samiri_Islamic_figure

Maybe he joined the israelites in the journey as we read in exodus.

RoyPCain: @emusan; samiri you said when the name is SAMIRIYU! find someone who can read arabic. the yaa is after raa before the miim, while siin started the name. by the way is miriam the same as maryam, samson the same as samuel, john the same as jonah josepf same as jacob or elijah the same as elisha? if the response is no, how is a name of a person to be flagrantly suggested by emenies of islam that it must mean a tribe title? is the samaritan a person or a tribe like israel [tribe of the children of jacob is]? infact people are free to bear a name within and outside the tribe collected named.

Samiri--means a samaritan...someone who come from a city called Samaria....i.e a Nigerian is someone who comes from Nigeria.
So and the City of Samaria never existed in time of Moses but about 700years when Judah/Isreal begin to split.
Search web and see lame excuses your scholars are making about it.

there are not jews called israel and not all children of jacob bear the name israel.

SHM...Jacob himself was given the name ISREAL..not any of his children given that name...that's why Abraham was been referring to as father of Israel because he gave birth to Isaac and Isaac begat Jacob/Israel..is it clear?

[quotejoseph is not israel. he was judah by nation. and making up a religion does not mean God ordered it. what was the religion of Jacob [as] so that you know that neither judaism of the jews nor christianity that came out of it is his way, therefore it is not by the Order of God? Jacob didn't get the core meaning of the dream of Joseph [as to both] until God revealed it when the entire family of Jacob prostrated to Joseph. it therefore does not matter how long it takes the truth to be revealed. when it is unfolded by God, the people whose hearts long for guidance submit to it.[/quote]

Imaging another lie...Joseph was Judah by nation...Judah himself is the THIRD BORN OF JACOB....read Gen 49:1-end for better understanding...This Chapter is the prophecies of Jacob conserning his children....

so emusan, why are you stiff necked?

Who is stiff necked? SMH...who is trying to force its religion into Christianity?

maybe you should tell us the other God that spoke to Muhammad [SA] since muslim says God is One Creator, Lord of all deserving all ordained submission, love, fear, reverence, worship, petition, hope? you know that God existed before Torah. God is known before Abraham. God is known before creation of man, God is complete before creation.

Who know God before creation of Man? God revealed Himself to Noah. He made promise with Abraham after the promise to Abraham, God's message always in a form of "I Am the God of your father..." to show that He is the real person who spoke to Abraham and others.
Now see how you should know that Muhammad is not a prophet sent by the God who spoke to Isaac, Jacob, Moses e.t.c Num 12:6 he said, “Listen to my words:
“When there is a prophet among you,
I, the Lord, reveal myself to them in visions,
I speak to them in dreams.
Did Muhammad receive any direct message from God? it let for you to answer.

we are no trinitarians or more or less, but The Limitless God in His Full Grandeur is Who we worship, willingly submitting. We did not kill any prophet or after the life of any [AS]. we are not arrogant. we seek guidance from God even though we are upon guidance. But God commands we repeatedly seek guidance from Him and we are eager to do so.

The same thing which prompt Muhammad to write his own book without fully understood what they mean.

How is Jesus God when angel was sent to strengthen and support him? who sent the angel except God? how can God send angel to strengthen and support God? indeed guidance belongs to those who are spiritually conscious.

If you want to learn about Trinity open a thread an invite me but with rules you must be precised in your post.

RoyPCain: @macof; i am personally happy to be a slave like muslims, arabs or non arabs to The One God Who created all and created man [Adam [as]] on friday between time of asr and magrib. you are proud and you are actually nothing. definitely the brain you worship has not helped you to simply research who the two judges of babatunde folorunsho and ishola oyenusi were. i met the son, my mother;s cousin and the father was my grandmother's younger brother.

you need not to respond here because your contribution as both atowun rinwa and irreligious is below the mark. arrogance will not save you from the clutches of death. you better she the cloth of satan you have made for yourself because death does not write a warning letter and when God commands the return of a soul, satan will abandon the disbeliever to the certain doom.

More rants From a slave. You should go do ur Arab duties and stop showing ur slave identity

tintingz: Sorry still waiting where Moses said he founded judaism.

Moses(as) was not even from judah tribe but a levite.

Didn't u read my post or wat?

I never said Moses created judaism, he created the laws of judaism which had been in Israel from Yahwism before the Israelites were taken to Babylon

noblefada:
Ok start a new thread, you and all your brothers put the evidence that support your claim and invite me to it.

Ok! lets do it u/i alone to avoid derailing. I'll create the thread by evening.

Lol,these muslims never dey try at all o,see lying and twisting...smh.

tintingz: The false prophet that were misleading the people changing the word of God. Many prophet were even killed in the bible.

So how many wrote a single chapter in the OT?

Am still waiting where God mention judaism or declare judaism to be the faith of the people.

SMH...what is the meaning of Judaism then?

LOL the Quran was very clear on this no missed story because the land samarita didn't exist doesn't mean the people didn't exist. The samaritans(samarians) should be among the israelites the bible was also clear on this when it says some non-isrealites joined Moses(as) in the journey
(Exodus 12:38) A rabble of non-Israelites went with them, along with great flocks and herds of livestock.

The story that Muhammad twisted, it is Aaron who did it not non-israelite....

Now the question is who are the non-israelites?

Another lie....Multitude went with them when their still in Egypt not After there are in wilderness. My point is When God told Moses to come for the commandment...Isrealite were still one nothing like Assyria, Ephraim, Samaria....get wisdom.

ofcos God gave Moses(as) the Torah to
the people of israelites to know about one God not to establish judaism which was NOT founded by Moses, Moses(as) worshiped God in Islam this was the message of Moses.

Islam means submittion to Allah according to Muslim right?
Did Jews proclaim another God or move away from the part that Moses had laid according to God's commandments? The people you can say that they deviated from OT is Christianity which was derived from CHRIST which is the God they are waiting for.

Ofcos same God Eli

Then why did Muhammad not receive direct message from God either by vision or dream?
he said, “Listen to my words:
“When there is a prophet among you,
I, the Lord, reveal myself to them in visions,
I speak to them in dreams

LOL, Jesus went further alone and fall his face to the ground and prayed crying, what was he doing? Sleeping?

And did Jesus claim he saw God or he's God himself? Why did he reject being good?

Mark 10:18 “And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.”

He clearly rejected being same as God

Does this show he worshipped God?
What of where He said "I and my Father are one"
Anyway I don't need to talk much about this.


Shalom!

tintingz: Thank you jare...Samiri was said to be Zimiri in hebrew
www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samiri_Islamic_figure

Maybe he joined the israelites in the journey as we read in exodus.

Bible even recognised him as one of the Moses' contemporaries. And the guy said he wasn't until bla bla years after Moses died.

May be he will bring up the argument again and i'll ask who is correct between him and the bible.

Emusan:

So how many wrote a single chapter in the OT?

Many...the bible confirmed it

(Jeremiah 8:8 )“How can you say, ‘We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us’? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes has made it into a lie.

They knew it themselves

SMH...what is the meaning of Judaism then?

Judaism was named after judah people who held to the torah it has nothing to do with Moses and God but a tribe religion.

The story that Muhammad twisted, it is Aaron who did it not non-israelite....

LOL see how the bible painted Aaron whom God chosed with Moses as an idol worshiper?

Another lie....Multitude went with them when their still in Egypt not After there are in wilderness. My point is When God told Moses to come for the commandment...Isrealite were still one nothing like Assyria, Ephraim, Samaria....get wisdom.

And does the Quran said as-samiri was a samaritan? The bible clearly said the non-israelites
joined them the bible didn't mention them by names.

Islam means submittion to Allah according to Muslim right?
Did Jews proclaim another God or move away from the part that Moses had laid according to God's commandments? The people you can say that they deviated from OT is Christianity which was derived from CHRIST which is the God they are waiting for.

LOL irony...
I should ask you do jews believe in Jesus? Jesus himself condemned the jews pharisees many times in the bible. Why? because they are misleading the people.

Then why did Muhammad not receive direct message from God either by vision or dream?
he said, “Listen to my words:
“When there is a prophet among you,
I, the Lord, reveal myself to them in visions,
I speak to them in dreams

And who told you he(sa) didn't receive message direct from God?

Jesus said no one has seen God nor heard his voice(John 5:37)

Does this show he worshipped God?
What of where He said "I and my Father are one"
Anyway I don't need to talk much about this.


Shalom!

so what was he doing when was he bowing to God, how can God pray to God? Biggest joke

I and my father are one doesn't mean they are the same, he's only making it known that he was sent from God, remember Jesus(as) said God is greater than him(John 14:28)

harbiola1:

Bible even recognised him as one of the Moses' contemporaries. And the guy said he wasn't until bla bla years after Moses died.

May be he will bring up the argument again and i'll ask who is correct between him and the bible.

LoL he just did

Emusan:
Samiri--means a samaritan...someone who come from a city called Samaria....i.e a Nigerian is someone who comes from Nigeria.
So and the City of Samaria never existed in time of Moses but about 700years when Judah/Isreal begin to split.
Search web and see lame excuses your scholars are making about it.

You are the one that's confused probably because of Bible's inconsistences, but i hope i'll be of help here.

WHO IS ZAMRI/SAMIRI? He was the Prince of the tribe of Simeon during the time of Isrealites in the desert. At Shittim (Num. 25:14) he took part in the Heresy of Peor, taking as a paramour a Midianite woman, Cozbi.
Zamri openly defied Moses before the people who were standing at the entrance of the Tabernacle by going to the Midianite, but Phinehas, the grandson of Aaro killed both the Zamri and the Medianite woman.

Number 25:14-15. Now the name of the Isrealite that was slain, even that was slain with the Midianitish woman was Zamri the Son of Salu a Prince of a Chief house among the Simeonites

Error!!!
Shelumiel was a Son of Zurishaddai and a Prince of the house of Simeon. Number 1:6

Zurishaddai was the father of Shelumiel, the Prince of the Tribe of Shimeonite.

Who is the Prince of the Tribe of Simeonite, Zamri or Shelumiel?

According to Bible Midrash, Zamri Son of Salu was the same person as Shelumiel son of Zurishaddai

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimri_(prince)

The error here is more than this. That is why we need Al-quran.

tintingz: LoL he just did

I knew it, buh he has been given what he want.

Let's see who is fair between him and the bible.

And what happened to the thread

Mintayo: Lol,these muslims never dey try at all o,see lying and twisting...smh.

We have talk with prove and u don't want to believe, then pls prove us wrong

Just a side bar to the discussion; Its interesting that the Jews still conduct not Baptism by Bar mitzvah till date at age 13 to be an adult. the reality was that John son of Zacharia conducted the Bar Mitzvah ceremony of coming of age of Jesus son of Mary. The non jews who wanted to follow this pattern later called it another name; Baptism.


Interesting story of a boy during his bar mitzvah. the speech went viral; http://www.yahoo.com/

: http://shine.yahoo.com/photos/the-most-amazing-kids-of-2013-1387314169-slideshow/


Photo courtesy of Robin McAlpine
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Duncan McAlpine Sennett turned 13 this year — and became a public advocate for gay marriage in the process. In preparation for his November bar mitzvah, the teen from Portland, Oregon, had to study a portion of the Torah that describes Jacob’s marriage to Leah and Rachel. Duncan’s take on the passage focused on the rights of all people to marry whomever they want. “The . . . .

harbiola1: And what happened to the thread

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harbiola1:

Stop being a moro.n, prophecy comes from God and not from any Pagan christian.

Muslims can live solely on the Quran. It's you shameless christians that can't live without OT which you said God has in ur mind advanced u above. So i wonder what the fuc.king rubbish u're doing with the Law book.

When am quoting a bible, i'm doing so just to let u know how deluded u're. I just think as big as bible is, it should have some atom of truth in it and interestingly I found few. And how is that a sin if u're shown a fruit from ur own tree?

NICE ONE

mahdino:


NICE ONE

Where were Jews and Christians enjoined to go to Mecca and to do what?

The people who passed through Baca were going to ZION, not Mecca.

Do you pass through Mecca when going to Zion? That shows Baca is not Mecca.

I so much luv christianity, we don't give a damn abt islam. We don't talk abt any of dem prophets. Dey are so dull and daft. Buh d only tin I like abt sem is eternal e*rection. Chai! Allah go watch porn tire. 73some, wad a great experience.

MY God, I can't believe what am reading here. U guys believe in this rediclous lies? Jeez. First. Abraham never married the slave girl. Kaaba is and was a shrine to the Triune goddesses(Allahs daughters). Pls stop themonotheism lies. We know Allat, Manat and Uzza. Late Muhammed worshipped them. They gave him the Satanic verses.the part of koran u guys keep secret. We know. SO JESUS Christ was a Servant of Allah. Hmmm. Wow. JEsus a servant to Satan? Keep telling urself this lies. So there was no church on earth until late muhammed was born? Do u know how many centuries the church has existed before that lunatic was born? 622 yrs. Do the math. Do u know the generations that spans betwn Jesus and Abraham? AL-Tabari ur Islamic scholar late Muhamed's friend tried fabricating his geneology, he got lost in the lies. Satan is a father of all liars. Late Muhammed was tool in the hands of satan.

Anas09:
MY God, I can't believe what am reading here. U guys believe in this rediclous lies? Jeez. First. Abraham never married the slave girl. Kaaba is and was a shrine to the Triune goddesses(Allahs daughters). Pls stop themonotheism lies. We know Allat, Manat and Uzza. Late Muhammed worshipped them. They gave him the Satanic verses.the part of koran u guys keep secret. We know. SO JESUS Christ was a Servant of Allah. Hmmm. Wow. JEsus a servant to Satan? Keep telling urself this lies. So there was no church on earth until late muhammed was born? Do u know how many centuries the church has existed before that lunatic was born? 622 yrs. Do the math. Do u know the generations that spans betwn Jesus and Abraham? AL-Tabari ur Islamic scholar late Muhamed's friend tried fabricating his geneology, he got lost in the lies. Satan is a father of all liars. Late Muhammed was tool in the hands of satan.

help us tell Empiree Rilwayne001 Tartar Abuamam Zeezahbee and co. Cos islam don scatter dem brain! Christianity till islam goes into extinctions

Why do u hate the Jews and Christians so much but can't stand on ur own and make sense without mentioning them. Muslims can't think of themselves outside of judo-christians, just like a man can't think of herself independent of a man. Original comes before the counterfeit. If Islam came before christianity, I could consider. To identify the counterfeit u need the original. To see the fakeness of islam u look at christianity. To see the lies of satan, u look at the lies of satan.

tintingz:
Thank you jare...Samiri was said to be Zimiri in hebrew
www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samiri_Islamic_figure

Maybe he joined the israelites in the journey as we read in exodus.

y