BCraig:

Tribes IN Naai-geria spend their time defending themselves from attacks and accusations by other tribes. It's the Naai-gerian way.

Cursed and doomed is this nation.

They have a surplus of venom, so they export it.

GH^KWAME:
We have similar social problems in Ghana as well, the only difference is we have a strong conflict resolution mechanism to douse the flame. Please don't make sweeping allegations as a result of a few delusional bigots.

sweetcheecks:

All the ones who grew up in Nigeria have the same mind, its like you are dealing with one person. If you could go through each of the post in this thread you would swear they were sat down and recited everything. Same old boring thing. Their disrespect to cultures and seeing traditions as primitive. Attacking the SA Bushman/Khoisans, Kenya's Masai, Botswana's Khoi because those people decided to live and preserve their culture is totally based on low self esteem and cluelessness. And then they call themselves "Giant of Africa" in what exactly? What can be learned from Nigerian by other Africans? Self hate? Worship of money & Everything Western?

GH^KWAME:
Lol! Take it easy my sister, I am sure they type mean words just to hit back at People who give them facts about their country. I know the feeling when they call Ghanaians dark/blacks whilst they engage in bleaching their skin. In reality many of the insults they spew on the net can never be uttered by them to anyone on the street. If only they could channel their hate comments on the net on other countries by hitting the street and demanding for their rights and holding credible elections their country might start earning respect from other countries.

sweetcheecks:

All the ones who grew up in Nigeria have the same mind, its like you are dealing with one person.

sweetcheecks:

If you could go through each of the post in this thread you would swear they were sat down and recited everthying. Same old boring thing. Their desrespect to cultures and seeing traditions as premitive. Attacking the SA Bushman/Khoisans, Kenya's Masai, Botswana's Khoi becouse those people decided to live and preserve their culture is totally based on low self esteem and cluelessness. And then they call themselves "Giant of Africa" in what exactly? What can be learned from Nigerian by other Africans? Self hate? Worship of mone & Everything Western?

morpheus24:

See Ghana boy get mouth O!

I shall be laughing when Germany Massacre you guys next year.

morpheus24:

"bleks"

BCraig:



Why are you stealing my words, you uncreative four one nine zit on a bum?

zaandrew: Just like to point a few things out here.
1 nigeria helping the anti aparthied movement was probaly pay back for SA helping bifar. SA sent wepaons, ammo, medical supplies and fuel. There where even south african speciol forces(we actually formed our speciol forces just to send a training team to bifar techncaly they where not yet speciol forces even since they left before forming it) in bifar to train them on these wepaons. This AID carrired on right up and till bifar lost(SA knew they had no hope in winning but hellped in any case) the SA solders left while the runway was being shelled. So it make sense nigeria would hold a grudge

2 the support given by nigeria was very littel. The mony provided was a drop in the ocoen compared to what the USSR gave and no nigerian solders died fighting south africa unlike Cuba and USSR who lost thousands. The USSR spent more money fighting SA than fighting afghanstan.

3 aparthied ended only once western goverments(america, europe, extra) put pressure. If they did not put pressure aparthied would still be strong and while right now.

4 nambia presdiant spoke because of 2 resoans 1 he chairs SADC and 2 SWAPO was a strong ally of the ANC. Raul castro spoke because mandela and fiddel castro where close freinds if gaddafie was alive he would have been allowed to speak. America spoke because they america and still the only supper power then brazil, china and india are parts of brics.

mink505: it's called politics. South Africa is free to invite whomever they wish.
When Goodluck Jonathan dies, Nigeria is also free to choose whether to invite SA to GEJ's burial.

In fact, I am ashamed of the arrogance being displayed by Nigerians on this thread. Just because you "helped" someone doesn't mean that they are forever indebted to you. If you want them to be forever indebted to you then you should have signed a diplomatic contract or agreement when you "helped" them. other countries sign agreements if they want something in return for their favors.
haba Imagine if Nigerians were d ones rulling SA we would be 10x worse than the whites.
SA has already returned the favor by allowing 419 thiefs and drug peddling Nigerians into its borders anyway.

dsaynt:

Thanks for the info. I like the way you CLEARLY spelt it out and it made a lot of logical sense. This is the way things should be explained. You are obviously an educated and exposed South African that understands African/Black unity. Some people both NIGERIANS and SOUTH AFRICANS took this too far and once national pride is at stake everyone throws decorum to the winds. The person that started this thread was probably curious given the much documented history of help that Nigeria gave SA. The whole thing now degenerated into a fight...Nigeria vs SA (with external fighters like the Kenyans and Bots peeps that weren't even invited into the fight making inputs...Lol).

This has gone far enough. Lets sheath our swords (If i said hurtful stuff I'm sorry...it was a good fun fight though...hahahahaha). So pleae please, lets look towards developing our respective countries. I am sure we don't like the bad stuff some of our people do to spoil our countries so lets channel all this energy into stopping it.
As someone pointed out..the whities aka europeans don't fight like this...they direct their energy into developing themselves or fighting us. Lets learn to do the same!

have a great day peeps!

BluIvy:

You have time dear, let the phools speak on things they know nothing and make themselves experts on them. They are showing their ignorance.

tommynico: So this babaric argument is still on............. GH^KWAME, ghana is a country i respect 4 their democracy nd i really envy ur gov't but dat shldn't av let u loose ur reasons, we both fought 4 each other our independence 4rm d white monkeys by our gr8 leaders in d past nd u Shld still b able to remember dat ghana had it's own turbulent times in d past nd if not 4 God's intervention, am so sure dat a bug wuld b more weightier dan u nd am so highly disappointed dat u can make such a ridiculous comment about nigeria when u should b d one to help us achieve dis dream of ours, totally disappointed, totally.

simpleseyi:
Ghana has always been
a fraud, from Ghana must go to
Ghana oil. Ask companies that
moved from Nigeria to Ghana, they
are regretting it. Ghana is as
developed as Osogbo, the capital of
Osun state. I have been to Ghana
and I can say that the country is
only good for 5th class citizens of
the world.

dsaynt:

Thanks for the info. I like the way you CLEARLY spelt it out and it made a lot of logical sense. This is the way things should be explained. You are obviously an educated and exposed South African that understands African/Black unity. Some people both NIGERIANS and SOUTH AFRICANS took this too far and once national pride is at stake everyone throws decorum to the winds. The person that started this thread was probably curious given the [b] much documented history of help that Nigeria gave SA.[/b]The whole thing now degenerated into a fight...Nigeria vs SA (with external fighters like the Kenyans and Bots peeps that weren't even invited into the fight making inputs...Lol).

This has gone far enough. Lets sheath our swords (If i said hurtful stuff I'm sorry...it was a good fun fight though...hahahahaha). So pleae please, lets look towards developing our respective countries. I am sure we don't like the bad stuff some of our people do to spoil our countries so lets channel all this energy into stopping it.
As someone pointed out..the whities aka europeans don't fight like this...they direct their energy into developing themselves or fighting us. Lets learn to do the same!

have a great day peeps!

sweetcheecks:

@ bolded, you guys have no dignity whatsoever, you would lie at drop of a hat. Where is the documantation you talking about? You keep on interviewing people and them telling stories by moonlight and you call that documented? Hopeless people!

dsaynt:

Now now...this is the kind of stuff that gets us nowhere...I can see you are still in the fighting mood...we can all keep going at this forever and it wouldn't help anyone. When I speak of 'documented' I am refering to the media etc that talk about the help given by Nigeria to SA back then. A lot of other countries did so too. Like someone said earlier...SA people were sent money to fight the Boers, scholarships were given etc. It pales in the light of what countries like the Soviet Union did by sending actual fighters but it was something. As for talking about dignity, you should have some and not resort to saying it was a lie. Even your people on this thread admit it...all they are saying is that it doesn't give Nigerians the right to be making noise about it the way we do. I agree with that opinion cos we someone is helping someone u don't expect something in return.
Like I said before, even though its been fun arguing etc this is getting out of hand. We should expend our energy ensuring that our countries develop and step up on the world stage. I would be the first to admit that Nigeria has a long way to go but then none of are there. We should channel our energies like these first world countries do in developing their countries.
We Africans are the cradle of civilization yet we are lagging behind the Europeans.
Thats why I admire Nkuruma a lot, he knew that for Africa to be great we have to join hands together and build the continent.

I do know we are all passionate about our countries and would defend it with words(insults?) but thats not good...lets encourage one another.
We are all brothers and sisters ( and even siblings do fight) but we must remember..the enemy is not us...its them out there. Those that see Africa as the 'dark continent'.
So sweetcheeks my dear lets all sheath our swords. I do understand how riled up you must be seeing the insults etc directed at you and your country...sorry about that.
And my fellow Nigerians- E DON DO O!!! Its enough! Lets show the world that we are nice people too! and I do know that not everyone hates us! I've got friends from SA, Kenya, Uganada and a very good friend from Tanzania (none from Botswana sha...maybe BlueIvy would become one. Lol)

take care peeps

GH^KWAME:

^^^You see what I am talking about?
We are constantly reminded that this site is for Nigerians, but threads are opened to discuss other countries, and when it gets heated, they call on moderators to close the thread down.





https://www.nairaland.com/1561231/nigerian-students-study-portakabin-gnananian#1561231.10

sweetcheecks:

@ bolded, you guys have no dignity whatsoever, you would lie at drop of a hat. Where is the documantation you talking about? You keep on interviewing people and them telling stories by moonlight and you call that documented? Hopeless people!

dsaynt:

Thanks for the info. I like the way you CLEARLY spelt it out and it made a lot of logical sense. This is the way things should be explained. You are obviously an educated and exposed South African that understands African/Black unity. Some people both NIGERIANS and SOUTH AFRICANS took this too far and once national pride is at stake everyone throws decorum to the winds. The person that started this thread was probably curious given the much documented history of help that Nigeria gave SA. The whole thing now degenerated into a fight...Nigeria vs SA (with external fighters like the Kenyans and Bots peeps that weren't even invited into the fight making inputs...Lol).

This has gone far enough. Lets sheath our swords (If i said hurtful stuff I'm sorry...it was a good fun fight though...hahahahaha). So pleae please, lets look towards developing our respective countries. I am sure we don't like the bad stuff some of our people do to spoil our countries so lets channel all this energy into stopping it.
As someone pointed out..the whities aka europeans don't fight like this...they direct their energy into developing themselves or fighting us. Lets learn to do the same!

have a great day peeps!

BCraig:

It got out of hand when the thread was opened. Now there are a lot of road-to-Damascus comments because nations have defended themselves. This enlightened reflection needs to happen before finger meets keyboard. Not after people have been beaten up and bloodied.

As for Europeans, they don't start negative threads about each other's countries.

Now, why the obsession about race? Will you now withdraw your comments about AndrewZA's understanding of black unity if you discovered that AndrewZA was very white? Or is the idea that white people also understand black unity? Or is the idea simply that AndrewZA made sense - in which case "black unity" is totally irrelevant?

Logic is logic and it has nothing to do with race. Good governance is good governance and it has nothing to do with race. Hatred and murder is hatred and murder - and it has nothing to do with race. Corruption and selfish leadership is just that. It has nothing to do with race.

Which brings me to a more important point: Just because people are all black, doesn't mean that they do not oppress and steal from one another. People need to start looking at the way people act and forget about the colour of their skin. That way, the thieving governments of Africa will not thrive. There's no comfort in bad leadership from people who happen to look like you.

morpheus24:




Its ***OBVIOUS*** in Julius Malema voice

The audacity of "these" people living in a fabricated post racial world

Get outta here with that liberal hogwash!

BCraig:

Don't take it out on me just because South Africans rejected you and made you feel like a worthless piece of rubbish while you were there.

The thread alone shows why.

Take it up with your "brother leaders". Grow some balls and fix your dump.

BCraig:

It got out of hand when the thread was opened. Now there are a lot of road-to-Damascus comments because nations have defended themselves. This enlightened reflection needs to happen before finger meets keyboard. Not after people have been beaten up and bloodied.

As for Europeans, they don't start negative threads about each other's countries.

Now, why the obsession about race? Will you now withdraw your comments about AndrewZA's understanding of black unity if you discovered that AndrewZA was very white? Or is the idea that white people also understand black unity? Or is the idea simply that AndrewZA made sense - in which case "black unity" is totally irrelevant?

Logic is logic and it has nothing to do with race. Good governance is good governance and it has nothing to do with race. Hatred and murder is hatred and murder - and it has nothing to do with race. Corruption and selfish leadership is just that. It has nothing to do with race.

Which brings me to a more important point: Just because people are all black, doesn't mean that they do not oppress and steal from one another. People need to start looking at the way people act and forget about the colour of their skin. That way, the thieving governments of Africa will not thrive. There's no comfort in bad leadership from people who happen to look like you.

Is this not CraigB the tough guy I know? You have suddenly turned into a cool and reasonable person. For all I can see there is a changed person from the one I used to know. I am very glad to be seeing such a small piece of writing with senses coming from you detailing the reason why most Africans cannot make head of their development and unity for the reason of inputting racism in almost all affairs.

Wow! I am dumbfounded! And, there is nothing more I can say than thank you for taking the path of change.

Mandela will be happy to see this change in you!

morpheus24:

After-effects of the self hate caused by a brutal regime that caused every black person in that space to feel like "a worthless piece of rubbish"

The new second class citizen to be viewed with suspicion is the "makwerekwere" migrant/immigrant/visitor.

What erks me though is the audacity of a priviledged benefactor of this brutal regime coming on nairaland to come educate us about what should or should not constitute the concept of "black unity".

PS, my balls will always be bigger than yours.....

all4naija:

Is this not CraigB the tough guy I know? You have suddenly turned into a cool and reasonable person. For all I can see there is a changed person from the one I used to know. I am very glad to be seeing such a small piece of writing with senses coming from you detailing the reason why most Africans cannot make head of their development and unity for the reason of inputting racism in almost all affairs.

Wow! I am dumbfounded! And, there is nothing more I can say than thank you for taking the path of change.

Mandela will be happy to see this change in you!