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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by An0nimus: 6:45am On Nov 23, 2015 |
BoboYekini :I can't remember the last time I got involved in a physical fight and it's hard to picture myself knocking someone out. I do agree it's a necessary skill. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by bellong: 6:48am On Nov 23, 2015 |
Mutaino7: Ha ha.... Do you want to test my endurance? |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Kimoni: 6:52am On Nov 23, 2015 |
Mutaino7: Hahahaha |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by RoyalRoy(m): 6:55am On Nov 23, 2015 |
bellong: Guess the eye is really a reoccurring decimal for you!!! No wonder u ended up as a Chief Priest.... Lmao...glad you dey use your eyes "see spiritual things now"...lol. Your story reminded of my childhood too, was a bit rascally in my primary school. Was always caught up with one issue or the other and I had to be flogged openly on the assembly ground. The last straw was the day I beat a girl who had locked my shirt " typical Naija style" and to free myself after much warning, had to use all my brute force on her. I was disgraced in the assembly, beaten like a common thief with others laughing. It was traumatic. That was the last time I ever lay my hands on a woman or anyone in public. However my twin brother and I were terror unto each other up till getting into University. We brawled over everything. Fight like Spatarcus and always go for "the kill". That was my last memory of a physical fight. But truly one just needs to learn some basics like you said. For self defence purposes only!!! |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by bellong: 7:09am On Nov 23, 2015 |
Kimoni: Replied you... Royalroy.. The basics of self defense is a must to learn especially those living in a violence prone area. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by pickabeau1: 7:34am On Nov 23, 2015 |
Mutaino7: lol.. u guys are conspiracists How does this soften up people They mean the same thing |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by ApexTitan(m): 8:04am On Nov 23, 2015 |
pickabeau1: Watch the video (granted, its a parody) I posted earlier and get a glimpse of how warped things can get. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by pickabeau1: 8:17am On Nov 23, 2015 |
ApexTitan: ok d video is funny you have the right to feel not offended |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by crackhaus: 6:55pm On Nov 23, 2015 |
Mutaino7:Lol... I don't see the correlation of this to softening people up, but yes it really does make the accused person feel less sinful to have engaged in pre-marital sex as opposed to fornication...from the biblical perspective of a hypocritical Christian of course. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by crackhaus: 6:59pm On Nov 23, 2015 |
Mindfulness, you didn't answer a particular question from 5mins...or maybe you did and I missed it trying really hard and fast to skim through the course work you and TV have been sharing. Either way, here it is: What are you selling? 1 Like |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 7:02pm On Nov 23, 2015 |
crackhaus: Nothing. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by crackhaus: 7:18pm On Nov 23, 2015 |
Mindfulness:Nah, people just don't suddenly find meditation and the zen-espoused lifestyle practised by adherents of Buddhism so fascinating. Really, what happened? |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 7:26pm On Nov 23, 2015 |
TV01: You have to figure it out on your own. It is between you and God. I am actually surprised you haven't yet. Truth not based on feelings or individuals desire for their perceptions to constitute truth. Now I know what it is not but I still don't know what it is. Who can fully know God or grasp Him in His totality. We can but employ words, which are themselves limited by our finiteness. But some things make sense, like love, justice, etc. I can. Feelings? And a desire to feel, and a desire to feel good about oneself, and this desire being satisfied, is evidence of, orthe actual connection to the divine? Help me here please? No. When you feel connected to God, you feel great. There is no better feeling. You appear to place the desire above the commitment? The desire may change or wane, should the commitment change because of that? I don't place the desire above the commitment, I am simply pointing out that desire is the driving force behind your commitment. You desired to commit to someone, to have a wife and children and a monogamous marriage and this is why you decided to commit. Nobody forced you. This is what you wanted. It comes first and foremost from a place of commitment, I get joy from keeping the commitment and seeing the outworking. The commitment is a result of the desire to commit to someone. Stressing the joy is fine - and I certainly convey that - it is not based primarily on the joy or feelings, and they also redound as a result. It definitely is. If you didn't desire it, you wouldn't have married. - Even in nature, danger is instilled first. Knowing what to avoid, is the first step to knowing what you should be looking for Whatever reasons you may have had, the approach was very negative and counter-productive. I have explained why. First sentence kinda right, second totally wrong, I don't necessarily stick to it because I "get joy", in fact, more because I give joy. And it is a sacrifice of sorts, I have less resources to myself, but I consider that a worthy sacrifice - and I still enjoy it tremendously. I don't have to put myself first to be well, healthy or joyful. You contradict yourself here. If you didn't get joy from marriage and commitment, you wouldn't have decided to marry and commit. Feelings don't come because they help? Does grieving help? Yes, grieving helps. When I lost my father, I needed to mourn him. It was a coping mechanism and it was a relief. There is a reason why humans were equipped with tears that flow when we feel sadness. You are reaching. All women are a burden and extremely annoying. it why they were put on earth . But whatever scenario you paint, and however I feel, it does not void the commitment I freely entered into. Freely and joyfully. As above As above. I don't share that notion either. Neither the one where you seem to be implying claims "makes mistakes". One attribute of the divine is perfection. Absolutely. 1. As a father I know that human beings are not intrinsically good, that if left devoid of boundaries, they will incline to things that are not good. As a mother I disagree. Kids need guidance but it doesn't mean that they are intrinsically bad. 2. You didn't answer my question about your being a mother - what basis do you have for your claim? Just answered. I would appreciate it if you avoided asking personal questions from now on. 3. Learning and even developing does not necessarily change character - people do wrong despite knowing it's wrong, and what they ought to have done - and typically they do wrong based on "feelings". No happy, joyful, fulfilled person who is connected to God does wrong. For self-actualisation? And how do we know what "we were meant to achieve? We figure it out. At least share how you get the feeling in the first place, instead of simply predicating everything on it. By taking good care of myself and by placing top priority on the most important relationship in my life - the one with God. Maybe you need to define "feel good" to boot? I don't think I have to. What a spouse brings is something that you cannot find alone or within yourself. This is not the point. The point I was making is that I can be happy regardless of his actions and decisions. And I repeat, if good, is good, is good, with or without a spouse, why would you need or desire one? Because we were born to desire and fulfill our desires. Once we fulfill a desire, another one is born and on and on it goes. This is the fun of it. I see this as totally odd. Marriage is by definition, if people can make marriage what they want, then it becomes meaningless. If you can call any pet a dog, then the word dog loses all content. People can have any kind of relationship they want (with caveats), but that does not make that relationship a marriage. Marriage has always undergone changes and people across different cultures have been defining and re-defining it and yet it has never become meaningless. Although the way the world is going with it's feelings based legislation and it's "legalise it because it makes me feel good" narrative, I guess your thoughts may hold more sway in society than mine in this respect. I don't agree. Everybody places a whole lot more value on "reason" rather than emotions, just like you, when in fact ALL of us are emotional beings who deny it like it is unnatural to be emotional. Lifelong monogamous union of a male and female Really? Is it an African tradition? My own is conditional - good grades in school and 1st team premier league player by 18 or else Mine isn't. Vaguely familiar - I look him up. Not my call. Many variants does not mean there is no true one. What is the only true one? If indeed you could, you haven't with this effort. Thanks for your time. Welcome. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 7:29pm On Nov 23, 2015 |
crackhaus: Something really good. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by crackhaus: 7:35pm On Nov 23, 2015 |
Mindfulness:Okay. Address this though. No. When you feel connected to God, you feel great. There is no better feeling.Thought you weren't a Christian And you're a mother? Was that the reason for the break? |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 7:37pm On Nov 23, 2015 |
crackhaus: I don't feel like telling you my life story. Thought you weren't a Christian. Who said I was? And you're a mother? |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by crackhaus: 7:44pm On Nov 23, 2015 |
Mindfulness:No, that would be a bore. I assumed only Christians and Muslims believe in God, didn't know Buddhists do too... Hmmm, becoming a mother must have been it then. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 7:46pm On Nov 23, 2015 |
crackhaus: I am not a Buddhist. Anyway. Have a nice evening. I am out. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by crackhaus: 8:01pm On Nov 23, 2015 |
Mindfulness:Hehehe... Not a Christian, not a Muslim, and not a Buddhist...but somehow you know that there's no better feeling than the feeling of being connected to God. It is well. Have a nice evening yourself, hopefully you come back in soon. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by TV01(m): 10:23am On Nov 24, 2015 |
Mindfulness: Hi Mindfulness, My initial request was for you to answer some questions. That would be in order to grasp a better understanding of your beliefs and how you came about, live and /apply them. I am yet to gain the sense of a coherent belief system. You’ve retreated to that place of asking instead of answering, using unexplained jargon, being otherwise cryptic or non-specific, and also rather defensive. Any slight probing and you seem anxious, the most innocuous questions seem to cause discomfort. You are happy to reference my family, and even declare the basis of my desire, my motivations, contrary to what I myself claim, yet an innocent question and you wobble? You have a footprint here. Issues you’ve waded in on, calls you’ve made, as well as what we know of you. If you are confident and secure in your beliefs why do you get so jittery? Simply outline them. At best, you’ve presented something based and motivated totally on “feelings”? And contrary to your beatific posturing, you’ve been weirdly judgemental. Sounds like a therapeutic style spirituality that appeals to the emotional, weak and self-serving. Feelings gba ni! I also looked up Eckhart Tolle, needless to say, nothing new there, so in a sense, no surprise. Enough said. So once again, a pointed “thank you for your time”. TV 8 Likes |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 10:41am On Nov 24, 2015 |
TV01: I have no coherent belief system to present to you. I have never claimed to have one apart from my relationship with God, which is free and not dependent on any religion. I don't need any religion or religious institution to be between me and God. I consider an unmediated connection far more fruitful and pure. I don't feel anxious or uncomfortable at all. I enjoy this discussion immensely. I have the impression that you are projecting your own feelings. I may be wrong. You are happy to reference my family, and even declare the basis of my desire, my motivations, contrary to what I myself claim, yet an innocent question and you wobble? Whatever personal information you give out online is your choice. Whatever I share online about myself is my free choice. I prefer to discuss topics and views instead of personal issues online but if you give out any personal information that you feel comfortable with we can touch upon if it fits the context of the matter being discussed as well as we can refer to the information I decide to share about myself online. You have a footprint here. Issues you’ve waded in on, calls you’ve made, as well as what we know of you. If you are confident and secure in your beliefs why do you get so jittery? Simply outline them. I feel like a Goddess and you think I am jittery? I also looked up Eckhart Tolle, needless to say, nothing new there, so in a sense, no surprise. Enough said. Again, you are welcome. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 10:44am On Nov 24, 2015 |
crackhaus: There is no need to follow a rigid and bogus belief system to connect with God. God has no religion. It is well. It is very well. Thanks. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Chomzy19(f): 2:19pm On Nov 24, 2015 |
Nawa for this kain discussion... 2 Likes |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by hariorh: 3:21pm On Nov 24, 2015 |
2 Likes |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by netotse(m): 11:51am On Nov 28, 2015 |
hey guys, I've been reading about the sugabelly scandal and it's really upsetting if you ask me. I see that to some extent we guys don't appear able or willing to hold ourselves to higher standards, pretty depressing stuff. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by funlord(m): 12:05pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
netotse: How are we sure the girl isn't lying? Or that the guy is guilty? Anyway the "side chick" game isn't for everyone if you ask me! But the girl making accusations has posted a lot of "alice in wonderland stories" prior to this on twitter so her credibility is in the loo!!! There are rules that people in such "open relationships" need to establish and follow to the letter so as not to end up as tabloid fodder for the public! Once those lines get blurred, you need to be prepared to deal with the consequences! Like a MAN!!! |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by TV01(m): 12:33pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
netotse: netotse: Holá Netotse, I kinda missed this, so for what it's worth. Theologically this is pretty clear cut. NSBM is exactly right. When a couple agree and have the blessing of their families - and most especially when they are absolutely committed and their motivation is pure - I'm not sure the formality of actual marriage rites would make a huge physical difference. Even the spiritual implications may be considered on the basis on which point the union actually takes place, as opposed to being formalised. In practice, I'd say wait, but that's as much for your witness to others as for yourself. Your Christian walk is just that, yours. Although in this case there are two journeyers, so as a man it's good to hold to what you agreed - for your credibility - even if you feel somewhat differently. If you do/have your conscience will be a fair judge. The only other practical consideration is if for any reason the union is not formalised - i.e you part ways - then what would one term the act? And of course if the union is not formalised and there is a pregnancy? Fulfilling righteousness, as opposed to being righteous, may mean erring on the side of caution mens you won't go far wrong. I may sound a little jumbled here, or perhaps not adequately expressed the nuance I see . All the best for your forthcoming nuptials, most hearty congratulations to the blessed couple. May your union be fruitful in a way that touches everyone around you and glorifies our God and Father. Best TV |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by TV01(m): 12:35pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
netotse:Totally missed this. Is it a ML issue? What are the facts?? TV |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by netotse(m): 1:35pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
TV01: Some babe was in a relationship with the late Kogi state govs son a few years back, it wasn't a healthy relationship, according to her, he made her sleep with his friends and brothers several times and treated her like crap. They met when she was undergoing an internship where he worked years back. He was 25 she was 17. It's the usual naija thing, some people are asking her why she kept going back, some are calling the guy a rapist etc etc. The recent rash of popularity is because she was jubilating on twitter when the former gov (and at the time of his passing, guber candidate) passed away. The gist had actually come out years ago (she blogged about it). funlord: To me, It's not about who's lying or not, If you're 25, carrying on such an "open relationship" with a 17 year old girl is wrong through and through, whatever the babes faults may be(she can't be blameless), that's where my grouse is, from where it looks, we're focusing on all the wrong things and ignoring the fact that if there's anyone that should be held to a higher standard here it's the guy. What he did was not acceptable. 1 Like |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by netotse(m): 1:38pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
TV01: I get your point, thanks for the best wishes. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by crackhaus: 7:02pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Mindfulness:I'm sure you thought the bold text made sense...all I can see from it is you quoting verbatim what you obviously heard/read somewhere from someone you think has figured it all out. The whole essence of God is wrapped around religion. The moment anyone starts 'connecting with God' and experiencing this no better feeling, ergo, worshipping him, it becomes religion. You can only connect to God by believing in a religion that has told you he's there to be connected with in the first place. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by pickabeau1: 8:47pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
netotse: I agree with u She mixed up perverse sex for love unfortunately it was a game she was not ready for May there have been some incidences of râpe..i think there was However the affair was mostly consensual just for the fact she was legally a minor Tragic...I hear she is in the US I hope she gets therapeutic help |
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