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Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by Nobody: 10:46pm On Aug 29, 2008
RichyBlacK:

Then why are some peole saying Femi will soon take the exam?

Because Femi has been busy trying to bribe WAEC officials to sell him "odu".
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by RichyBlacK(m): 10:55pm On Aug 29, 2008
davidylan:

Who's this man? If Iran is so good why isnt Saudi Arabia and others on friendly terms with it? Why shld we "defy" the US just for defying sake? We stand a lot more to gain from the US than 20 Iranian governments put together.

How can Saudi Arabia, a country ruled by an outdated monarchy be in friendly terms with Iran, the largest democracy in the middle-east?

Saudi Arabia cannot even defend itself from a Kuwaiti invasion; a weak government with zero legitimacy. Iran and Saudi Arabia are not in the same boat. The US backs the undemocratic Saudi government because of oil, but do not want Iran, a democracy, to exercise her right to acquire nuclear technology for civilian use.

Saudi Arabia is inherently weak and so necessarily dependent on the US. Iran is strong and so do not need any protection from any body. Allah's protection is what they seek.
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by RichyBlacK(m): 10:57pm On Aug 29, 2008
davidylan:

Stuff and nonsense. Where did you get this rubbish from? Iranians are queueing up at the US embassy to leave Tehran.

Una see the kin lie dis my guy don dey lie? The US does not have a consular office in Tehran!
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by RichyBlacK(m): 11:01pm On Aug 29, 2008
davidylan:

Because Femi has been busy trying to bribe WAEC officials to sell him "odu".

Nope, Femi only paid his WAEC exam fees, and his detractors called it bribe for "odu".
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by Bastage: 11:04pm On Aug 29, 2008
Iran is the largest democracy in the Middle East?

Man, don't make me laugh so hard. Just because they get to vote doesn't mean they're a democracy.
The clerics hand-pick the candidates and you can't vote for anyone not already pre-approved by them. So yeahm you can vote, but you have to vote for our man.
There's about as much democracy in Iran as in Saudi Arabia.
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by Nobody: 11:11pm On Aug 29, 2008
RichyBlacK:

Una see the kin lie this my guy don dey lie? The US does not have a consular office in Tehran!

Osanobua . . . na true, my brain dey on holiday that period.

RichyBlacK:

How can Saudi Arabia, a country ruled by an outdated monarchy be in friendly terms with [size=15pt]Iran, the largest democracy in the middle-east?[/size]

O boy even an idiot no fit believe this kain nonsense. grin
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by Nobody: 11:12pm On Aug 29, 2008
RichyBlacK:

Nope, Femi only paid his WAEC exam fees, and his detractors called it bribe for "odu".

Which WAEC fees? WAEC banned Femi from taking its exams, Femi is busy trying to impersonate others to forcefully sit for an exam he is not allowed to take . . . what nonsense.
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by RichyBlacK(m): 11:15pm On Aug 29, 2008
Bastage:

Iran is the largest democracy in the Middle East?

Man, don't make me laugh so hard. Just because they get to vote doesn't mean they're a democracy.
The clerics hand-pick the candidates and you can't vote for anyone not already pre-approved by them. So yeahm you can vote, but you have to vote for our man.
There's about as much democracy in Iran as in Saudi Arabia.

Okay, who picks the candidate that run for presidential election within the parties in the US? I await your answer.

Just because a particular brand of democracy does not look like what is practiced in the US does not mean it is not democracy.

Also, please familiarize yourself with the differences between a democracy and a monarchy. Iran is a democracy, while Saudi Arabia is a monarchy. Unfortunately, years of watching CNN, Fox News, NBC, CBS, ABC, and other American TV/Cable media, have blinded many to the truth.

Do you know that Hamas was democratically elected by the Palestinians? They trounced the Fatah party in an election that was universally declared free and fair. Yet, the American media outlets prefer keeping their audiences ignorant of the truth to telling them that Hamas was elected to power by the people of Palestine.
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by RichyBlacK(m): 11:22pm On Aug 29, 2008
davidylan:

Osanobua . . . na true, my brain dey on holiday that period.

Make sure say e no still dey on holiday grin.



O boy even an idiot no fit believe this kain nonsense. grin

Okay, explain to me why political parties1 exist in an undemocratic nation.

Reference:
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_parties_in_Iran
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by Nobody: 11:23pm On Aug 29, 2008
RichyBlacK:

Okay, explain to me why political parties1 exist in an undemocratic nation.

Reference:
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_parties_in_Iran

There are "political parties" in Zimbabwe. Otondo. grin
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by 4Play(m): 11:26pm On Aug 29, 2008
Iran is far from a democracy for 2 primary reasons:

In Iran, power rests in the hands of the Supreme Leader whose position is not subject to a popular vote. The President is merely a head of Govt,somewhat akin to Zik's position in the 1st Republic.

In reality,even the President's office was was not open to the popular vote in the last election. You can't have a democracy where the likely winners are banned from contesting. Imagine if only Republicans were allowed to run in the 2008 election.

No right thinking person will call Iran a democracy.
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by 4Play(m): 11:28pm On Aug 29, 2008
RichyBlacK:

Make sure say e no still dey on holiday grin.


Okay, explain to me why political parties1 exist in an undemocratic nation.

Reference:
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_parties_in_Iran

Do you remember the political parties that existed during the Abacha time? So the metric for determining the existence of democracy is the presence of political parties? That means Egypt is a democracy.
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by RichyBlacK(m): 11:32pm On Aug 29, 2008
davidylan:

Which WAEC fees? WAEC banned Femi from taking its exams, Femi is busy trying to impersonate others to forcefully sit for an exam he is not allowed to take . . . what nonsense.

Not true. Nobody banned Femi from taking the WAEC exam. His detractors petitioned WAEC to deny him taking the exam because, according to them, he plans to cheat (can you imagine someone accusing you of planning to cheat?) and wants to use the WAEC certificate for evil purposes. Femi denied the charges and agreed that WAEC officials can come and inspect his home, observe his reading habit, his study room, his text books, etc. They even went as far as inspecting what he eats and drinks because they suspect he is planning to use “odu”. Femi only wants to pass his WAEC and use the certificate to move on with his life, but his bad-belle enemies don't want to see poor Femi succeed. Awon ota omolomo ti poju!
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by RichyBlacK(m): 11:34pm On Aug 29, 2008
davidylan:

There are "political parties" in Zimbabwe. Otondo. grin

Are you saying that Zimbabwe is not a democracy? shocked
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by Nobody: 11:36pm On Aug 29, 2008
RichyBlacK:

Not true. Nobody banned Femi from taking the WAEC exam. His detractors petitioned WAEC to deny him taking the exam because, according to them, he plans to cheat (can you imagine someone accusing you of planning to cheat?) and wants to use the WAEC certificate for evil purposes. Femi denied the charges and agreed that WAEC officials can come and inspect his home, observe his reading habit, his study room, his text books, etc. They even went as far as inspecting what he eats and drinks because they suspect he is planning to use “odu”. Femi only wants to pass his WAEC and use the certificate to move on with his life, but his bad-belle enemies don't want to see poor Femi succeed. Awon ota omolomo ti poju!

Only a blind man is unaware that Femi not only plans to cheat but has an ulterior motive (which he has confessed to severally) for attempting to write an exam he is unqualified for. Femi isnt poor, Femi has deprived his neighbours the legitimacy of the WAEC exam, he has severally intimidated invigilators and harrasses his classmates on a daily basis. Femi is an active player when it comes to fraud, openly sponsors widespread cheating during exams and still bleats about wanting to take the WAEC so he can go to university . . .

Sorry Femi, learn a trade pls.
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by Nobody: 11:37pm On Aug 29, 2008
RichyBlacK:

Are you saying that Zimbabwe is not a democracy? shocked

According to RichyBlack, it is.
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by RichyBlacK(m): 11:37pm On Aug 29, 2008
4 Play:

Do you remember the political parties that existed during the Abacha time? So the metric for determining the existence of democracy is the presence of political parties? That means Egypt is a democracy.

So you're not aware that Egypt is a democracy?
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by 4Play(m): 11:39pm On Aug 29, 2008
RichyBlacK:

So you're not aware that Egypt is a democracy?

grin grin grin

This guy is a comedian! Richy,what about North Korea? Na democracy too,after all they also have political parties. grin
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by Ibime(m): 11:40pm On Aug 29, 2008
Forget all this argument about Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Yankee, Democracy, demonstration of crazy etc.

The question is:

What is the international perception of this our deal with Iran?

Is it a perfectly normal thing for countries to do i.e. sharing information on nuclear energy - or is it going to land us in hot water with the international community? Do we have any nuclear scientists in the house to clarify these matters?

If it is a controversial something, abeg I don't want it. Firstly, a country with internal squabbles such as Naija should not even be looking at nuclear technology. What if my brothers from MEND lay hands on this nuclear material. Wetin dem go take am do? On top of that, if this draws heat from the international community, I no want am abeg. Naija no fit manage airport, talkless of nuclear facility.
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by Nobody: 11:43pm On Aug 29, 2008
It is perfectly legitimate for Nigeria to seek nuclear power plants, to sign a deal with Iran of all nations just shows the stupidity of those we call leaders. The same Iran presently under threat of sanctions and a possible confrontation with Israel over nuclear material?

Na wa o
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by RichyBlacK(m): 11:47pm On Aug 29, 2008
davidylan:

Only a blind man is unaware that Femi not only plans to cheat but has an ulterior motive (which he has confessed to severally) for attempting to write an exam he is unqualified for. Femi isnt poor, Femi has deprived his neighbours the legitimacy of the WAEC exam, he has severally intimidated invigilators and harrasses his classmates on a daily basis. Femi is an active player when it comes to fraud, openly sponsors widespread cheating during exams and still bleats about wanting to take the WAEC so he can go to university . . .

Sorry Femi, learn a trade please.

Femi has a right to education, and just because he has said a few things and fought with his neighbor Feyi (by the way Feyi started the fight) does not mean he should be denied his right to education. The allegations of Femi harrassing people and intimidating invigilators are untrue. It was Feyi that has done all those things. Feyi even took over another man's house. Now, Femi's detractors have taken Feyi's house, car, certificates, shares, money, etc. Feyi is really suffering now. However Feyi was once a tormentor.

Are you sure you're not confusing Feyi with Femi. I mean the difference between their names is just one letter!
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by RichyBlacK(m): 11:50pm On Aug 29, 2008
4 Play:

grin grin grin

This guy is a comedian! Richy,what about North Korea? Na democracy too,after all they also have political parties. grin

4 Play,
Let's be serious, North Korea is a communist state, and not a democracy. I'm making the assumption that you're aware of their differences.
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by 4Play(m): 11:52pm On Aug 29, 2008
RichyBlacK:

4 Play,
Let's be serious, North Korea is a communist state, and not a democracy. I'm making the assumption that you're aware of their differences.

At least,that should reveal the absurdity of referring to the presence of political parties as evidence of the existence of a democracy.
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by Nobody: 11:53pm On Aug 29, 2008
RichyBlacK:

Femi has a right to education, and just because he has said a few things and fought with his neighbor Feyi (by the way Feyi started the fight) does not mean he should be denied his right to education. The allegations of Femi harrassing people and intimidating invigilators are untrue. It was Feyi that has done all those things. Feyi even took over another man's house. Now, Femi's detractors have taken Feyi's house, car, certificates, shares, money, etc. Feyi is really suffering now. However Feyi was once a tormentor.

Are you sure you're not confusing Feyi with Femi. I mean the difference between their names is just one letter!


this is pure propaganda and drivel! Feyi is in the position Femi always wanted, until Feyi is reasonably able to stand on his own feet its likely his "detractors" (who actually needed to stop Feyi sponsoring millitants and terrorists) are not in a position to give up Feyi's house so Femi can come set up shop there.
Its funny that Femi complains the loudest about detractors taking over Feyi's house. Femi himself set up and finances another alhaji who has virtually taken over another man's house and now has power of veto over the pot of soup.

Femi shld go sit down and let the world rest.
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by RichyBlacK(m): 11:56pm On Aug 29, 2008
davidylan:

It is perfectly legitimate for Nigeria to seek nuclear power plants, to sign a deal with Iran of all nations just shows the stupidity of those we call leaders. The same Iran presently under threat of sanctions and a possible confrontation with Israel over nuclear material?

Na wa o


What is wrong with Iran? Just because the American government gets a risopus when the name 'Iran" is mentioed does not mean Nigeria should conduct her foreign policy under the shadow of the US.

Did the US give a hoot about Nigeria when they were supporting apartheid South Africa, negotiating trade deals with Botha's government? Rubbish!
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by RichyBlacK(m): 11:59pm On Aug 29, 2008
4 Play:

At least,that should reveal the absurdity of referring to the presence of political parties as evidence of the existence of a democracy.

You've started your slow but sure gravitation into a cul de sac.

Question: If Egypt and Zimbabwe are not democracies, then what are they? What system of government do they practice? Is it communism?
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by Nobody: 12:01am On Aug 30, 2008
RichyBlacK:


What is wrong with Iran? Just because the American government gets a risopus when the name 'Iran" is mentioed does not mean Nigeria should conduct her foreign policy under the shadow of the US.

Did the US give a hoot about Nigeria when they were supporting apartheid South Africa, negotiating trade deals with Botha's government? Rubbish!


Only wool heads like you actually think Nigeria has a foreign policy. Kindly share with us this policy that Yar Adua must have discussed with you alone.
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by 4Play(m): 12:04am On Aug 30, 2008
RichyBlacK:

You've started your slow but sure gravitation into a cul de sac.

Question: If Egypt and Zimbabwe are not democracies, then what are they? What system of government do they practice? Is it communism?


They are both dictatorships. When Hosni Mubarak is returning with 94% of the vote,been in power before I was even in born,you can't call that a democracy unless you haven't got a clue what you are talking about.
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by RichyBlacK(m): 12:04am On Aug 30, 2008
davidylan:

Only wool heads like you actually think Nigeria has a foreign policy. Kindly share with us this policy that Yar Adua must have discussed with you alone.

It's not just a matter of policy, but of principle also. I outline two of them:
1. All nations reserve the right to pursue nuclear technology for peaceful purposes
2. Any two nations are free to enter bilateral agreements with each other

None of these are threatened by a Nigeria-Iran cooperation on nuclear technology.
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by debosky(m): 12:05am On Aug 30, 2008
davidylan:

Only wool heads like you actually think Nigeria has a foreign policy. Kindly share with us this policy that Yar Adua must have discussed with you alone.

The policy is simple - 'Afrocentric in focus' grin

Iran signing nuclear deal? Has Iran itself been able to build a functioning plant of its own? Instead of going to established nuclear players like Russia (who is building Iran's plant) or France (for those who detest Amerikka), we go to a country in defiance of the IAEA? It is of no benefit whatsoever.
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by 4Play(m): 12:06am On Aug 30, 2008
Iranians have to queue up at petrol stations because of fuel scarcity and what are we supposed to be gaining from them?
Re: Nigeria Signs Nuclear Agreement With Iran by RichyBlacK(m): 12:12am On Aug 30, 2008
4 Play:



They are both dictatorships. When Hosni Mubarak is returning with 94% of the vote,been in power before I was even in born,you can't call that a democracy unless you haven't got a clue what you are talking about.


You're wrong.

It is not improper in a democracy to be in power for decades! Before the US constitution was amended it was possible to be president for decades. FDR was elected four times! long tenures is not an indication of undemocracy!

Similarly, democracies do not abhor landslide victories. Except it is illegal by the constitution of the state, landslides are fair game in any democracy. does it happen often? No. Can it happen/ Yes!

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