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Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by Nobody: 6:56am On Jul 05, 2014 |
kolawaxxy: Well... To the atheists, how do you explain the wonders people like T.B Joshua perform? Read up on cold reading. Good thing is, it's what you can also do with good practice. 5 Likes |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by Nobody: 7:09am On Jul 05, 2014 |
JerryBerry:My username is censored? |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by GeneralShepherd(m): 7:29am On Jul 05, 2014 |
cococandy: Here are some frequently asked questions for atheists. 1. I am absolutely sure there is no God, 2. If it follows that intelligent beings must have intelligent creators then God must have a creator who also has a creator and then you'll have the infinite loop 3. Just like number 2 above that cause must have a cause no special pleadings. But if God can be uncaused, why can't the universe be uncaused. 4. I agree but this is argument doesn't make God real because, if you place a piece of metal in a magnetic field it moves. Doesn't ask us to have faith it'll move. It is objectively verifiable. 5. Not only have we not seen God but we don't even know the God to lookout for. India alone has 2500 gods. All so called evidence for God are subjective. 6. As engineer I know that energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Energy is eternal. No God needed. Energy has always been and will always be. 7. I have addressed this point 8. By your logic we will always be stock in an infinite loop of increasingly intelligent creators. 9. Same loop of intelligent beings 10. There is no universal morality, take a look at the world and the chaos in it does it look like it has an intelligent law giver. The countries like Nigeria that are deeply religious are worse than irreligious countries 11. Refer to 10 12. Addressed 13. If God who by definition is more complex than the universe can be uncaused, then the universe can be uncaused. 14. I don't understand the. Question 15. The earth was designed for human life, why create over 2500 other planets. In our solar system alone we have 7 uninhabited planets. Was god being wasteful or was he just bored? Why not create just the earth? Why the milky way? Life came on earth because the planet met the required criteria needed to support life. Not the other way round. Nice points though and have a lovely day 4 Likes |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by GeneralShepherd(m): 8:02am On Jul 05, 2014 |
urheme: @apatheist Before you talk about proof on non-existance of God, you should first of all proof he exists. See as you insult someone's family because of your imaginary friend. Bloody religionists 5 Likes |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by Nobody: 8:10am On Jul 05, 2014 |
GeneralShepherd:That is what Jesus would have done. Hallelujah! !!! 2 Likes |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by blueyedgeek(m): 8:22am On Jul 05, 2014 |
Humans just want to keep on living forever. The thought of death scares us but belief in a God /Gods brings hope that all is not lost. This to me is the singular reason why people believe in deities, the fear of the unknown. I am not atheist by the way. 3 Likes |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by urheme: 8:25am On Jul 05, 2014 |
Apatheist: If I see a god when I die, I'll bash the motherfucker's head in for making me black. You no well o!! Inferiority complex and Low self esteem are mental illness Some where in your innermost sub conscience you believed a god created you, your anger is that he made u black. Pathetic!!! Micheal jackson was born a black man too but died a white man, this is where science comes in, you have mentors already: Buy a white skin and stop this your obsession |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by Nobody: 8:31am On Jul 05, 2014 |
urheme:Don't put words into my mouth. I said "if" find out the meaning of that word. Pathetic!!!Why do you think he was the king of pop? If I could do that I would. By the way, are you supposed to be using technology? I thought science was. "bullshit " in your words. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by urheme: 8:37am On Jul 05, 2014 |
GeneralShepherd: I am not a religionist. You read this post in isolation and u launched an immediate attack. You don't understand a thing. There have been a chain of post, perhaps you should be properly briefed before u start defending your friend |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by TheBigUrban2: 8:51am On Jul 05, 2014 |
urheme: Please, dont mind the atheists Check out this thread https://www.nairaland.com/1799940/willy-wonka-tackles-god-funniest |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by cococandy(f): 8:59am On Jul 05, 2014 |
Generalshepherd. Your response is seen. I can relate to your number 10 and I understand how that can affect people's beliefs. Thanks for your time |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by urheme: 9:11am On Jul 05, 2014 |
Apatheist: "If" as define from all the submissions that you have made, means that you are not sure of anything, there is a river of confussion and conflict within you, you are afraid of taking a stand even when convienced because you have no stand(there is God and there is no God), you are full of crazy doubt and they have over shadowed any reasonable doubt left in you(there is no prove for crazy doubt), you are consistently fighting with your conscience. Because of what your brain ask you to imagine, You are being speculative on most issues,your post are after thoughts and do not represent your through position on the existence of a God. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by Nobody: 9:21am On Jul 05, 2014 |
urheme: Religitards, when will you ever learn? See the definition of "if" Go back to your goat herding and hallelujahs and don't quote me again. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by urheme: 9:26am On Jul 05, 2014 |
The.Big.Urban: For goodness sake why did you direct me to that stupid thread of yours. This is distraction and am not in the mode for religious academic exercise. Am even trying to get out of here |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by TheBigUrban2: 9:31am On Jul 05, 2014 |
urheme: <<< move along |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by urheme: 9:33am On Jul 05, 2014 |
Apatheist: Orise!!! I interpreted the word "if" in the circumstance of your submission because it was not standing alone, abeg your anger is uneccessary, cut it out 1 Like |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by Nobody: 9:36am On Jul 05, 2014 |
urheme:So words have different meanings when they're used by theists? Anger ke? I am not angry. Stop projecting. Why did you quote me? Didn't I tell you not to? Your goats are waiting for you. 3 Likes |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by pickabeau1: 10:04am On Jul 05, 2014 |
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Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by urheme: 10:22am On Jul 05, 2014 |
Apatheist: worsd have different meaning depending on how they are used Flowing from your definition of "if", the interpretations i gave are accurate. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by Nobody: 10:27am On Jul 05, 2014 |
urheme:Whatever. Tend your goats. 2 Likes |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by qstar(m): 11:03am On Jul 05, 2014 |
toluxa1: Seun , Was it the crashing of your academics or your people's reaction to it? Which one exactly? Maybe you need to hear my own story and how/where God turned out to be Supreme in-spite of my own 'crash'. I stopped believing because it is crystal-clear that the Universe/God does not care about us. Not because of people's attitude. You do not confuse coincidence/luck for God. For each time you get lucky, someone else is damned. For Arsenal to win the premiership, 19 other teams are disappointed. 4 Likes |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by 5minsmadness: 11:58am On Jul 05, 2014 |
Martian: I'm not an atheist because I don't have a reason to affirm or deny the existence of mythical creatures. A pity I arrived on this thread late. However: Do you know that in Greek mythology Prometheus also made man out of munld while Athena breathed on him to give life. Does it not trouble you that all 'mythology' have basic similarities when it comes to the creation of man? Could it be possible that early on in man's history the truth was simple and well known but as time went on and man traversed the earth and seperated from each other and different languages came up that the story got muddled up in the process. Does similarity here not give a clue that a supernatural being was involved in man's creation? And do you notice how all ultimate supernatural beings have the same characteristic as God almighty? Second bolded, has it occurred to you that the Almighty entity has tried time and again to make himself known to us, hence the salvation story? 1 Like |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by qstar(m): 12:20pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
5minsmadness: See here, list of creation myths. http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_creation_myths The reason you dismiss others as fables, is the same reason i dismiss yours. For science to accept any, is to throw in the towel. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by 5minsmadness: 12:48pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
qstar:Did you read my post?? Who said I'm dismissing other people's story? I'm pointing out the similarity in it! 1 Like |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by qstar(m): 12:51pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
5minsmadness: Then you've got to be a polytheist. I am sorry if your position was misunderstood. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by 5minsmadness: 12:57pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
qstar: A polytheist believes in many gods right? Sorry I'm not one. You seem to have misunderstood my line of reasoning. What I am saying is, have you considered that Obatala or Chukwu and God almighty are one and the same? Just under different languages? |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by qstar(m): 1:08pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
5minsmadness: Stop projecting your thought as though it's one new invention. You are yet to start thinking. If you believe in a supreme God, it is called "monotheism". But, you've got to go inside your house and analyse how these gods are one and the same. One, originated life at ile-ife, another in the garden of eden and later had a son, yet another says "Mohammad(pbuh) is His last prophet, etc. Stop derailing the thread, thought the OP invited atheists. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by 5minsmadness: 1:44pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
qstar:Lol. One thing I notice about people like you, you like to answer questions with insults in a bid to get the attention you crave so much. I never said this was a new thought. There is also nothing derogatory if you have not thought of it before.[/quote] If you believe in a supreme God, it is called "monotheism".I know what monotheism means. Did it make you feel big to define it for me? But, you've got to go inside your house and analyse how these gods are one and the same. One, originated life at ile-ife, another in the garden of eden and later had a son,Once again, unnecessary coarse words. But I understand. You need it to feed your ego. I'll bypass it. I was talking about the creation story only. A similarity in the creation story shows a similarity in origins. That's what I was trying to point out. Where is the garden of eden? Does anybody know exactly? Could 'garden of eden' have a different meaning e.g 'point of origin'? Can you conclusively disprove that ile-ife is the garden of eden? Or is it possible that this 'garden' was taken up after the fall of man? Stop derailing the thread, thought the OP invited atheists. The interesting thing is that the question wasn't even directed at you. What you did by answering it is called 'minding other people's business'. But I guess you got the attention you needed. Kudos. |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by qstar(m): 2:11pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
5minsmadness: Okay. Thanks |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by ebamma(m): 3:58pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
God is just a spectator in our lives, he is that superman who just watches as the bad guys hurt us. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by Anuoluwap(m): 3:59pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
Seun:if that's the reason you stopped believing then I think you weren't strong enough. For the followers of Jesus shall be tested and those that are strong shall be called sons of God. What happened to you has happened to many and it'll not stop happening but to stand still in christ is so rewarding. When money comes people often turn their back on their creator because they believe money solves all their problem and nothing like spirituality. There's God o! 2 Likes |
Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by ebamma(m): 4:02pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
Anuoluwap:money ke?, i see many millionaires who drive their range rover to church every sunday, believing or disbelieving in God has nothing to do with wealth or lack of it, its a personal decision |
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