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Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by haymoney01(m): 10:43pm On Jul 06, 2014
johnwizey: Wa gbayii.......imagine, those universities student feel they are more qualified than us, but no, they ain't anywhere near us. We are better off academically, its just the way the FG treats the polythecnics that made the gap so obvious. A 300L student can't even define Kirchoff's law talkless of solving the equations.
Make them bridge the gap o cos we no go gree
No mind them. No Gree. Buh shey u knw wetin u go do, kill URSELF

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Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by Nobody: 10:45pm On Jul 06, 2014
berbs112: I studied Chemistry in d Polytechnic... I am proud to say,no university graduate with BSc in Chemistry can challenge me in the field... Lips sealed...
eejit, wat ve u acheived so far in ur chemistry.... u don discover new element ni.. werey

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Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by Nicepoker(m): 10:49pm On Jul 06, 2014
Excelboi: OK, verified . Apart from Auchi, which poly rank top ten best institution in Nigeria?
nairaland poly.

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Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by tosyne2much(m): 10:50pm On Jul 06, 2014
Kachisbarbie: I don't support the discrimination, i pity the poly graduates a lot - but my own problem be say...why are poly graduates somehow gullible and local? Their package dey tire me, the way they talk, even if there is something in their head, dia packaging always comes out wrong.
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Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by Handcuff: 10:51pm On Jul 06, 2014
roxell120: aint u talking about preference here which the contentious disparity is a major factor?

preference or no preference, A First degree certificate cannot be equated to an HND certificate, at least @ the moment
Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by tosyne2much(m): 10:52pm On Jul 06, 2014
Kachisbarbie: I don't support the discrimination, i pity the poly graduates a lot - but my own problem be say...why are poly graduates somehow gullible and local? Their package dey tire me, the way they talk, even if there is something in their head, dia packaging always comes out wrong.
u hvnt proved to me dat u ar a wise man.... If d criteria for employment in the labour market was based on dis debate, wld dis crap u commented fetch u a job ?
Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by haymoney01(m): 10:54pm On Jul 06, 2014
berbs112: I studied Chemistry in d Polytechnic... I am proud to say,no university graduate with BSc in Chemistry can challenge me in the field... Lips sealed...
Boss, I neva graduate o... Bt na b.sc chemistry bt I can tell u... I am beta than u

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Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by ademoladeji(m): 10:56pm On Jul 06, 2014
Polytechnics? I've been in one... Universities? I've attended one aswel... Lemme say the government shld do smthg abt it sha buh goin by the way poly students behave? It shldnt be rated equal to the University...

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Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by roxell120(m): 10:57pm On Jul 06, 2014
Handcuff:

preference or no preference, A First degree certificate cannot be equated to an HND certificate, at least @ the moment
showcasing ur level of reasoning u acquired from ur uni education i guess.so pathetic
Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by Nobody: 10:59pm On Jul 06, 2014
tosyne2much: u hvnt proved to me dat u ar a wise man.... If d criteria for employment in the labour market was based on dis debate, wld dis crap u commented fetch u a job ?
Am not debating Sir/Ma'am.
Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by pressplay55: 11:01pm On Jul 06, 2014
ceeceeco: Universities are rated higher than polytechnics though, but i tink d polytechnic students are practically sound. I remember back in 2010, wen my uncle who's a lecturer @ IMT & ESUT gave me some exam scripts 2 mark, that was statistics, the IMT students performed beta than the ESUT students. The ESUT students found it very difficult 2 solve Chi-Square/correlation Analysis/Regression Analysis...#§mh#
where u dere wen d students were writn d exam or test? Did u see how dey conduct it?
See if i should register goat in some polytec , the goat will surely graduate!

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Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by Handcuff: 11:02pm On Jul 06, 2014
roxell120: showcasing ur level of reasoning u acquired from ur uni education i guess.so pathetic

Lol, just with a comment of less than 15 words, u have already concluded to what extent I can reason!
Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by Nobody: 11:03pm On Jul 06, 2014
Everyone clamouring that HND should be rated same as B.Sc are all deranged and lack thinking element. They are There want is premised on their notion that HND spent more years than B.Sc. May be we should start comparing technical colleges to polythecnics as well.
They are different and cannot be the same. I don't blame them in all I blame the deplorable state of University education and the fact that both are enrollled in national service together.
Moving forward, NYSC should be scrapped and Universitu education improved by whatever means.

Having only universities with the option of issuing various certs can also be considered. Year 3 should be equivalent to HND.
Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by tosyne2much(m): 11:03pm On Jul 06, 2014
Either Polytechnics graduates ar unworthy or not equivalent to degree holders..... I hav com into conclusion dat apart frm d fact dat polytechnics graduates are treated unfairly wit disdain, Most universities graduates wldnt want dem to be equivalent not by the discrimination or the criterion for polytechnics admission but by serious challenges their HND counterparts wld put dem in.... I guess its not worth fighting for. If truly u believe u can defend ur certificate and can beat ur HND holder counterpart in the same field of study, den let Fg equate dem and outsmart HND holders wit ur Degree
Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by Nobody: 11:04pm On Jul 06, 2014
crixtex:
Abia poly?? y not mention covenant poly... schools of copycat... Abeg i dey find babe for ur sch o, i b corper..lol

Dem full campus, it's based on packagings, u no say dem no too hard, bt dem hard to get.
Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by Nobody: 11:07pm On Jul 06, 2014
All Pro HND equals B.Sc is a true reflection of upside down thinking. Only Nigeria will disgraceful and deameaning request emanates
Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by Mcbussy(m): 11:11pm On Jul 06, 2014
Alausa4real: Accedemically, polytechnic students ar more better than university students

"accedemically" , "more better than" ....you have won with that grammar. i believe you grin

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Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by sparkleboy(m): 11:20pm On Jul 06, 2014
Weselion: School is School whether profs or no profs. After all, polytechnic students stay longer in school.
its not about the Quantity, rather its about the Quality. .... Sorry

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Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by Kay005: 11:24pm On Jul 06, 2014
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Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by tosyne2much(m): 11:24pm On Jul 06, 2014
davidylan:

Your post is littered with basic spelling and grammar errors... if this is the evidence that polytechnic graduates are better then we have a long way to go.
There's no room in you for wisdom..... Empty barrels mak d loudest noise.... Ability to speak fluently in english is not d best measurement of intelligence so y makn reference to his errors... Alwz respct other people's way of speaking
Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by pressplay55: 11:27pm On Jul 06, 2014
crixtex:
Abia poly?? y not mention covenant poly... schools of copycat... Abeg i dey find babe for ur sch o, i b corper..lol
that was how DE students were ranting in my school hehehehehe last semester result really proved it, Now their mouth are shut.
We had additional 23 direct entry students, in my school, out of which only 4 made a good result,
Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by frank043(m): 11:31pm On Jul 06, 2014
Evestar200: true, Auchi poly was ranked 2nd best institution in Nigeria last year and if am not mistaken it was d 12 best institution in Africa and also the best poly in Africa follow by Namibia poly. And if u are talking abt ranking, unilag is no where near top cuz schools like OAU, uniben, Auchi, Unilorin, UNN, UI,AAU are ranked above unilag
Pls stop fooling yourself dear, I have seen your pix,you are too matured to be deceiving yourself. PM me if you want to get an authentic source of institution rating!
Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by frank043(m): 11:36pm On Jul 06, 2014
akpur1: guy go and google it
Googled,its there. Oya,does it change anything?? Its like you have forgotten the country you are in.
Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by Nobody: 11:40pm On Jul 06, 2014
Kachisbarbie: hehehe, calmdown and leave Abia poly out of this. Am from Abia state i base in Aba, inshort Abia poly dey near ma house...them dey do IT for ma bank, they are the most gullible set of poly undergraduates av seen. They don't speak well, they don't dress well. Shey na Abia poly students dey enter bank and dey can't write amount in words. Abeg, mention anoda poly except u trying to tell me majority of dem are like that or am meeting the rong 1s.
Bros u wicked oooo. the guy must be dumb now.

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Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by Mcbussy(m): 11:41pm On Jul 06, 2014
tosyne2much: There's no room in you for wisdom..... Empty barrels mak d loudest noise.... Ability to speak fluently in english is not d best measurement of intelligence so y makn reference to his errors... Alwz respct other people's way of speaking

shut up!!! which way of speaking?...your ability to speak ur official language is the 1st step of proving that you are worthy of being a scholar.

its only in Nigeria that you'll see shameless scholars that can't speak their official language fluently. if basic English wasn't important in measuring quality of education and intelligence,then you should have gone to a poly where Igbo or Yoruba was their language of instruction. grin

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Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by frank043(m): 11:43pm On Jul 06, 2014
FrancisTony:

Jamb cutoff mark can never be used to judge but employer of labour should engage both degree holder in a battle of intellect.

At least, we have people that used expo to score 260 in jamb and entered University with runse.
And some brilliant student with 240 in jamb settled for Polytechnic because they don't have money for University runse i.e they got admitted to poly easily.

#Enough said.

To me, degree doesn't really matter if you have connection. Three of my cousin that studied in YABATECH are working in a big company while some University graduate are busy roaming the street.
Yes,let's assume its true that they are working in a big company. Your myopic view won't let you see what they are passing through! Go and ask them, i bet you will shed tears at what they will tell you!! After they are done narrating to you their plights,pls be quick to advice them to go and upgrade,else they will regret for the rest of their life!!!
Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by Nobody: 11:44pm On Jul 06, 2014
Kachisbarbie: hehehe, calmdown and leave Abia poly out of this. Am from Abia state i base in Aba, inshort Abia poly dey near ma house...them dey do IT for ma bank, they are the most gullible set of poly undergraduates av seen. They don't speak well, they don't dress well. Shey na Abia poly students dey enter bank and dey can't write amount in words. Abeg, mention anoda poly except u trying to tell me majority of dem are like that or am meeting the rong 1s.
bros u wicked oooo. I know the guy must be dumb now.
Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by tosyne2much(m): 11:46pm On Jul 06, 2014
Mcbussy:

shut up!!! which way of speaking?...your ability to speak ur official language is the 1st step of proving that you are worthy of being a scholar.

its only in Nigeria that you'll see shameless scholars that can't speak their official language fluently. if basic English wasn't important in measuring quality of education and intelligence,then you should have gone to a poly where Igbo or Yoruba was their language of instruction. grin
. Ability to speak fluently is only an added advantage.... So wat u r insinuating is dat ability to speak fluently is the true measurement of one's intelligence ? My advice is dnt alwz belittle one's
entity just to uplift urs and if u think u ar gud enough to speak and write wit little or no errors den u shld be thnkful to God, so stop makin oda ppl feel less wit dia shortcomings

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Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by globatop: 11:48pm On Jul 06, 2014
Bsc and HND are meant for different field of work, especially the technical aspect of study. HND holders are trained for execution of projects while Bsc holders are trained for design works. They are meant to be parallel career, but where are the industries that will absorb HND graduates in a country that have no power supply, a country that has been turned to consumer nation, where every graduate is now sales executives promoting foreign made goods.
HND holders are suppose to be doyens of industries, as far as production is concerned, but industries now prefer Bsc holders bcause of unemployment rate.

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Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by Nobody: 11:50pm On Jul 06, 2014
I know some university degree holder who graduated with cgpa below 2.5/ some who are still battling to know their CGPA in 400 level or below/ some who their scripts or marks are still missing will flood this thread and start spewing gibberish.The fact remains polytechnic students and graduates will never cease to remain the best in their field and I know that the government of this epileptic country will one day put a smile on the faces of polytechnic graduates and students.its a matter of time.I don't want to say much because I remember I taught a FUTA graduate where to locate start button on a keyboard in 2009 and also told a UNAAB graduate he cannot see a recycle bin on desktop CUG phone when I tricked him to find a deleted number on the phone which he searched for almost 45 minutes sweating.It is not a matter of professor or grammar..Its what you were taught and what you possess upstair..Back in UAC then,I worked with my ND and I trained at least 15 graduates on the use of excel,words,sage pastel,IDRS and so on.University graduates for that matter..Universities in Nigeria breed and produce semi-illiterares and idiots as graduates(imagine an OOU graduate of ILR asking a question"Am I ur children?"wink..Good night

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Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by MrDoGood(m): 11:56pm On Jul 06, 2014
Sheenor: i read it too.........i hope they do something about it . HND cannot forever remain second to degree.....they have to be equal....yeah!.....they most be equal.

see protest
lol
na so ee dey start
Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by Mcbussy(m): 11:56pm On Jul 06, 2014
tosyne2much: . Ability to speak fluently is only an added advantage.... So wat u r insinuating is dat ability to speak fluently is the true measurement of one's intelligence ?

its not a true measurement of intelligence,but its a very good factor in judging quality of education.

if I'm to interview u and u can't get ur grammar right,u sure ain't getting d job.

I'm sure I don't need to remind u that most universities don't accept anything less than a credit in English and maths regardless of d course. meanwhile,from what i heard,most polytechnics accept pass in English for some courses and even pass in maths in others.also heard u can get in wif maybe 4 credits....how on earth do u guys expect to be at par wif B.Sc holders?

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