smh...all these ND and HND peeps aren't hard to spot.they can't even maintain d validity of an argument,and this is one of the reasons why they can't be at par with a real degree holder (by saying real,I mean sum1 dat actually worked hard to get d degree and not 1 of those clowns that pay their way through school). I wonder why sum1 would be comparing sum1 dat studied in PTI wif sum1 that has a degree in dsame field.most university courses are of academic nature.when talking about PTI,its a specialised institution and almost all their courses are professional in nature. its like comparing sum1 wif ACCA and a B.sc Accountant. 1 is professional,one is academic. 1 will give u professionals that are more competent in companies world wide while 1 will give u graduates that are better in terms of research and discoveries. its like comparing an Executive MBA holder wif sum1 wif M.sc Business admin.

ain't it obvious that an oil company would benefit more from sum1 wif PTI diploma,that's more practical?...but when it comes to scientific research and leadership in dsame field,who on earth would call on a PTI diploma holder?

Kachisbarbie: I don't support the discrimination, i pity the poly graduates a lot - but my own problem be say...why are poly graduates somehow gullible and local? Their package dey tire me, the way they talk, even if there is something in their head, dia packaging always comes out wrong.

There is usually nothing in their head. Trust me I know.

They are very difficult to manage, you have to micro-manage then all the time. Poly guys have no initiative.
Though they are very good at taking orders.

[color=#006600][/color] the dichotomy should end now.. polytechnic students are far better than university students, I attended the best polytechnic in Nigeria. Most Yabatech students in unilag are 1st class students. The person that was the best graduating student 3 years ago was an upper credit graduate in yabatech.. so what's the point??... if not for birds and booze I should be in the UK anyway..

HND can win in d court,white paper,but it can't conquer where it matter most:the people who will employ.

Evestar200: true, Auchi poly was ranked 2nd best institution in Nigeria last year and if am not mistaken it was d 12 best institution in Africa and also the best poly in Africa follow by Namibia poly. And if u are talking abt ranking, unilag is no where near top cuz schools like OAU, uniben, Auchi, Unilorin, UNN, UI,AAU are ranked above unilag

Una nor go kii pesin for dis Nairaland o

Na you rank am abi?

This ya polytechnic English get as e be o. You for kuku speak pidgin English like me na

FrancisTony:

It's now called a University.

FUPRE- Federal University of Petroleum Effurun.

wrong!!!!!!!!!

Federal University of Petroleum Resources.

And PTI still exist independently, man. Stop spreading false information.

I studied Chemistry in d Polytechnic... I am proud to say,no university graduate with BSc in Chemistry can challenge me in the field... Lips sealed...

numerical_guy:


There is usually nothing in their head. Trust me I know.

They are very difficult to manage, you have to micro-manage then all the time. Poly guys have no initiative.
Though they are very good at taking orders.

.U mean Zombie?

Weselion: School is School whether profs or no profs. After all, polytechnic students stay longer in school.

Kai!!!!

I don't believe this.

berbs112: I studied Chemistry in d Polytechnic... I am proud to say,no university graduate with BSc in Chemistry can challenge me in the field... Lips sealed...

$let it remain sealed forever.

Kachisbarbie: hehehe, calmdown and leave Abia poly out of this. Am from Abia state i base in Aba, inshort Abia poly dey near ma house...them dey do IT for ma bank, they are the most gullible set of poly undergraduates av seen. They don't speak well, they don't dress well. Shey na Abia poly students dey enter bank and dey can't write amount in words. Abeg, mention anoda poly except u trying to tell me majority of dem are like that or am meeting the rong 1s.

In Abia Poly we have two departments, Computer science and others. Go ask around, maybe u met the loud mouth no brain Pub Admins or the other ones. CS no dey like that.,if u meet CS guy u sef go knw level dey uuup there and uup there and then up there.

You feel me?

Today Nigeria... 89% of university degree holder = unemployed.
90% of HND holder =unemployed.
It makes no difference to me. My friend is a bank manager she hold a degree in Edo language... I-M-M..imamadu..is the in thing.

ITbomb: Forgive my ignorance but do we have Professors in Polytechnics?

if we dnt have Professors in Polytechnics dat means der is no hope for chibok girls again,lolzzzzz

obayaya: Universities and polytechnics are 2 different kinda institutions. With 2 different training modules, Awarding 2 different kind of certificates to 2 different kind of graduates for satisfaction of 2 different kind of Job Market.

The truth is that, Polytechnics is the pinnacle of Technical education in Nigeria.

All these brouhaha is due to the facts that there are no job opportunities. little or no companies and firms to absorb the teeming number of graduates from both the universities and polytechnic. Creating a fierce competition for the little employment opportunities out there.

In the Oil and Gas industry, HND holders are preferred on the Rigs.

Word!

@ bolded: to be managed by a B.Sc. holder who earns like five times what HNDs earn and with prospects of making it to top management.

1. 7pm news ke, this is just after 4
2. Although am a student of a pretigious university, but i tink d hnd deserves better than d way they are been viewed in this country.

HND and Bsc are not equal anywhere in the world but in some countries they're more equal than others, if you get my drift.

poly students better go hide inside bush...wen ppl don suffer write jamb score 252,write post ume,suffer for skl,one person wen make 150 for jamb go com follow am drag spot........i even knw of som1 dat got into ozoro poly without jamb,had D in english nd F in maths in waec....imagine dat kind person after playing tricks in skl to get grades,coming out wit a B.sc..ahbeg make una put anoda story

[dey r prefered at d ring cuz dats deir training as operators. u can not employ an engr for such positionquote author=obayaya]Universities and polytechnics are 2 different kinda institutions. With 2 different training modules, Awarding 2 different kind of certificates to 2 different kind of graduates for satisfaction of 2 different kind of Job Market.

The truth is that, Polytechnics is the pinnacle of Technical education in Nigeria.

All these brouhaha is due to the facts that there are no job opportunities. little or no companies and firms to absorb the teeming number of graduates from both the universities and polytechnic. Creating a fierce competition for the little employment opportunities out there.

In the Oil and Gas industry, HND holders are preferred on the Rigs. [/quote]

tuffgongjo: HND can win in d court,white paper,but it can't conquer where it matter most:the people who will employ.

well said bro....let dem keep ranting about yabatech being better than unilag,ib poly being better than UI

this sort of reasoning only reflects why HND and B.Sc can't be at par.

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I scored 270 in 2010 and scored 68 in unilag postume, but was not offered admission buh scored 67 in yabatech and was offered. Since its on merit and not the sham in unilag... so what's it about polytechnic students.. though students of state n private polytechnics are a disgrace to humanity [color=#550000]

Everybody would claim that his/her cert is the best. But the fact remains, cert doesn't make you better than a craftsman. How you build yourself is what matters. A poly graduate could be better than a uni graduate, that is just individual differences. A poly graduate can teach a uni student and vice versa, nothing is wrong with that. For crying out loud, Are B.Tech and B.Sc in Chemistry, mathematics etc not the same? After all, some one has to spend minimum of 5yrs to obtain B.Tech while B.sc requires 4yrs. Of course, because of additional one year, B.Tech suppose to be ranked higher than B.Sc. but it is not so. Therefore, cert is cert but there are individual differences. Stop the discrimination and face reality. I bagged B.Tech and now M.Sc. In view.

Weselion: Is 150 an abysmal low mark? Remember that uni's are now 180. Universities students spend 4 years in school, polytechnic students spend more than that with serious emphasis on praticals. Some Unilag students come to my school for assistance in projects and assignments

Mk dia cut off equal too

I cannot just stop laughing. i am an HND holder. but its obviously not equal and can never equal to a BSC. a technologist is diffferent from an engineer .. poly breeds technologist while unit breeds engineers. chikeena!!!!!!

I had attended both.... I had an OND in the polytechnic and BSC at the University, auchi poly and UNN respectively.

here is my judgment, I made distinction at the polytechnic and first class in the University, though yet to graduate. students should be comparing themselves not the schools and their mode of entry. JAMB and POST UME is dam corrupt!! quote me anywhere.

the only way you can be sure you are better than the polytechnic students is to engage them in an intellectual battle.

MOST of the poly students that go into the University with DE (less competitive and currupt) usually becomes the HEAD of their class... and subsequently graduate with first class.

I'm not the best student in my poly, one girl like that kept dusting me, but here in the University they are no where close to where I am.

# draw your own conclusion and stop making a better person feel inferior.

Normality:

In Abia Poly we have two departments, Computer science and others. Go ask around, maybe u met the loud mouth no brain Pub Admins or the other ones. CS no dey like that.,if u meet CS guy u sef go knw level dey uuup there and uup there and then up there.

You feel me?

He can't feel you. Not with the way you are looking down on members of your institution who are in other department.
How can you even want equality when you don't feel equal to students in your institution.

I hope i wont be banned for saying end time things?

akpur1: Poly this uni dat. Ave been 2both there is more work there than the universities. You can never compare Fed poly auchi to uniport,unilag,unical,delsu,convenat,bells,landmark,Rsust,AAU etc. Cos federal poly auchi is second best tetiary institution in Nigeria and best polytechnic in Africa. Where were universities?

Same Auchi Poly I did my NYSC?

You're kidding right?

pDude: How can you ever compare HND to Bachelors?


So inotherword you are telling me that Ibadan poly and University of Ibadan is the same in graduates and quality of education


Clowns.

Funny.

Sheenor: i read it too.........i hope they do something about it . HND cannot forever remain second to degree.....they have to be equal....yeah!....."they most be equal".

In the quote is a reason why they are not yet equal.

SAPEDRO:

Why must they be equal? that would be so unfair, 80% Of those in in polytechnics are those who couldn't make it into the university not their fault though, maybe cos of insufficient mental and intellectual resources. go and check this year's. utme statistics and see how people have changed from universities to polytechnics after checking their results. the university is a much higher place. and this people complaining were not forced to go to the polytechnic in the first place, but like i said earlier, maybe they couldn't make it.

I can see u have d "intellectual resources". SMH. Siddon dia make pant dey wear u o!

Excelboi: OK, verified . Apart from Auchi, which poly rank top ten best institution in Nigeria?

all those ranking are based on their presence in d web

ngskylark: I cannot just stop laughing. i am an HND holder. but its obviously not equal and can never equal to a BSC. a technologist is diffferent from an engineer .. poly breeds technologist while unit breeds engineers. chikeena!!!!!!

cool!!!....I bet ur 1 of the few among them that's capable of going places.